[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread patrick.philipot

Hey! don't push too hard, or I may tell you who is Predident of the United
States in 2024... ;^)

Patrick




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 Hallvard:
  Interresting link. Thanks. And a special greeting to Philippe Oehler,
who
  seems to have been discussing rebol matters since 1980...  hehe.

 And a special tip of the hat to Patrick who's posting from way in the
future:
 http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-month-index.r?month=202406

 :-)
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread patrick.philipot

Hi Gregg,

I have try to log as a guest, but a password is required that I don't have.

Regards
Patrick

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From: Gregg Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3


 
 Hi Patrick,
 
 ppln A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is
 ppln barely aware of it. 
 ppln I have discovered recently http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/.
 
 ppln Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo
 ppln here and the weblog is very difficult to read.
 
 My take is that RT wanted the community involved, but in an
 experimental way. They also needed a good, controlled, communication
 mechanism, which AltME is. I don't think their intent was to exclude
 anyone who wanted to be involved, but it wouldn't work, as a first
 time experiment, to have hundreds of people involved either.
 
 ppln Isn't it possible, even for someone like me that do not have to
 ppln skills to participate actively to the project, to be a little
 ppln more aware of what is going on?
 
 Everyone can help, especially with testing. RT may not be pushing hard
 for lots of public input yet because some things are still in flux and
 you know how people can be when the thing they want doesn't get on the
 list, or is pulled from the release. :)
 
 ppln Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest?
 
 Yes.
 
 -- Gregg 
 
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread patrick.philipot

Hi Pekr,

I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party
next door and not telling you.
I'am eager to get my fingers on View 1.3.

Regards
Patrick



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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi List,
 
 A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is barely
aware of it.
 I have discovered recently http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/.
 
 Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo here and the
weblog is very difficult to read.
 
 I feel a bit frustrated with all this. Isn't it possible, even for
someone like me that do not have to skills to participate actively to the
project, to be a little more aware of what is going on?
 
 Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest?
 
 All I can do is to download and use every View release.
 
 Regards
 Patrick
 
 
 Patrick - noone wants to prevent anyone from joining? In fact, IIRC,
 Carl openly invited everyone to participate - just contact Gregg, ask
 him for account and you are in! You should be glad View 1.3 is coming to
 its life nicely, and be a bit more optimistic :-)

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread Alan Crandall

none
none=== Original Message ===
none
none
noneHi Gregg,
none
noneI have try to log as a guest, but a password is required that I don't 
nonehave.

use guest and guest as password/go to accounts and tell them your user name/the 
password you want to use/it will be mailed to you and once you login you can change 
the password.This was send via Phil B. mailreader.r 
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread Gabriele Santilli

Hi Patrick,

On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote:

ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party
ppln next door and not telling you.

It  has  been  announced here on the list. And all the discussions
are  on  the  web  too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just
want to follow.

Regards,
   Gabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread patrick.philipot

Hi Gabriele,

Weblog are very difficult to read. For example, I have seen somewhere
something about a view-feel.r file. It is quite a miracle, that I have found
elsewhere where to download it. And I haven't still found what to do about
it.

Ciao
Patrick


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 Hi Patrick,

 On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote:

 ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having
a party
 ppln next door and not telling you.

 It  has  been  announced here on the list. And all the discussions
 are  on  the  web  too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just
 want to follow.

 Regards,
Gabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread Jason Cunliffe

 Hey! don't push too hard, or I may tell you who is President of the United
 States in 2024... ;^)

hmm -- btw, What's her name ?
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread Gerard Cote

Hi Patrick,

Here is one place I look at to keep me informed about View 1.3 dev status - since  
don't have time enough to invest in any other
discussion. While this time I use it as much as I can as my current testing tool - 
even while learning basic things. Just to see
anything follows the already documented and established old rules - if this must be so 
...

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r

Regards,
Gerard
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Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3



 Hi Patrick,

 On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote:

 ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party
 ppln next door and not telling you.

 It  has  been  announced here on the list. And all the discussions
 are  on  the  web  too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just
 want to follow.

 Regards,
Gabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread Gabriele Santilli

Hi Jason,

On Friday, January 30, 2004, 12:46:23 PM, you wrote:

JC hmm -- btw, What's her name ?

Lisa Simpson?

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Regards,
   Gabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread patrick.philipot

Quite informative,

Thanks Gérard

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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:32 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3



 Hi Patrick,

 Here is one place I look at to keep me informed about View 1.3 dev
status - since  don't have time enough to invest in any other
 discussion. While this time I use it as much as I can as my current
testing tool - even while learning basic things. Just to see
 anything follows the already documented and established old rules - if
this must be so ...

 http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r

 Regards,
 Gerard
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 From: Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:12 AM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3


 
  Hi Patrick,
 
  On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote:
 
  ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know
having a party
  ppln next door and not telling you.
 
  It  has  been  announced here on the list. And all the discussions
  are  on  the  web  too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just
  want to follow.
 
  Regards,
 Gabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-30 Thread Gregg Irwin

AC use guest and guest as password/go to accounts and tell them your
AC user name/the password you want to use/it will be mailed to you
AC and once you login you can change the password.

To clarify, there is no GUEST account on the REBOL-View world at this
time, but there is one on the REBOL world. You can go to the
View-Update group there to let us know you'd like an account.

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread Petr Krenzelok

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi List,

A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is barely aware of it. 
I have discovered recently http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/.

Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo here and the weblog is 
very difficult to read.

I feel a bit frustrated with all this. Isn't it possible, even for someone like me 
that do not have to skills to participate actively to the project, to be a little 
more aware of what is going on?

Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest?

All I can do is to download and use every View release.

Regards
Patrick
  

Patrick - noone wants to prevent anyone from joining? In fact, IIRC, 
Carl openly invited everyone to participate - just contact Gregg, ask 
him for account and you are in! You should be glad View 1.3 is coming to 
its life nicely, and be a bit more optimistic :-)

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Patrick,

ppln A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is
ppln barely aware of it. 
ppln I have discovered recently http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/.

ppln Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo
ppln here and the weblog is very difficult to read.

My take is that RT wanted the community involved, but in an
experimental way. They also needed a good, controlled, communication
mechanism, which AltME is. I don't think their intent was to exclude
anyone who wanted to be involved, but it wouldn't work, as a first
time experiment, to have hundreds of people involved either.

ppln Isn't it possible, even for someone like me that do not have to
ppln skills to participate actively to the project, to be a little
ppln more aware of what is going on?

Everyone can help, especially with testing. RT may not be pushing hard
for lots of public input yet because some things are still in flux and
you know how people can be when the thing they want doesn't get on the
list, or is pulled from the release. :)

ppln Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest?

Yes.

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread Graham Chiu
Petr Krenzelok  wrote.. apparently on 29-Jan-2004/19:17:53+1:00

Patrick - noone wants to prevent anyone from joining? In fact, IIRC, 
Carl openly invited everyone to participate - just contact Gregg, ask 
him for account and you are in! You should be glad View 1.3 is coming to 
its life nicely, and be a bit more optimistic :-)

Why don't one of the world masters create a guest account?

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch

I don't know how you guys manage to find and put all that time into it.

I really would like to participate, but I really don't have enough time each day to 
follow so many threads and discussions.

I'm happy that many in the community are participating.

things on this list sure have toned down recently... mainly because so much effort is 
being put on vid 1.3.


-MAx
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You can either be part of the problem or part of the solution, but in the end, being 
part of the problem is much more fun.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gregg Irwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
 
 
 
 Hi Patrick,
 
 ppln A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is
 ppln barely aware of it. 
 ppln I have discovered recently 
 http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/.
 
 ppln Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo
 ppln here and the weblog is very difficult to read.
 
 My take is that RT wanted the community involved, but in an
 experimental way. They also needed a good, controlled, communication
 mechanism, which AltME is. I don't think their intent was to exclude
 anyone who wanted to be involved, but it wouldn't work, as a first
 time experiment, to have hundreds of people involved either.
 
 ppln Isn't it possible, even for someone like me that do not have to
 ppln skills to participate actively to the project, to be a little
 ppln more aware of what is going on?
 
 Everyone can help, especially with testing. RT may not be pushing hard
 for lots of public input yet because some things are still in flux and
 you know how people can be when the thing they want doesn't get on the
 list, or is pulled from the release. :)
 
 ppln Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest?
 
 Yes.
 
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread SunandaDH

MAx

 things on this list sure have toned down recently... mainly because so much 
 effort is being put on vid 1.3.

It's up (at least in terms of message volume) on 2002, so far. But way down 
on 2002:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-date-index.r

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread Hallvard Ystad

Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20.52 29.01.2004):

MAx

 things on this list sure have toned down recently... mainly because so much 
 effort is being put on vid 1.3.

It's up (at least in terms of message volume) on 2002, so far. But way down 
on 2002:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-date-index.r

Interresting link. Thanks. And a special greeting to Philippe Oehler, who seems to 
have been discussing rebol matters since 1980...  hehe.

HY

Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse delendam


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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3

2004-01-29 Thread SunandaDH

Hallvard:
 Interresting link. Thanks. And a special greeting to Philippe Oehler, who 
 seems to have been discussing rebol matters since 1980...  hehe.

And a special tip of the hat to Patrick who's posting from way in the future:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-month-index.r?month=202406

:-)
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-25 Thread Anton Rolls

Well, I would assume you would catch the error,
and then try to apply your own parse rules.
You would have to try to split paths up, then
reapply the load/catch/try-to-parse cycle on the
pieces.

Or your code could avoid path notation altogether,
using pick, eg. pick d i._x
then you don't have to recursively apply parse
rules on pieces of a path.

Anton.

  to word! whatever you wish
 GS == whatever you wish
  to word! 1,4
 GS == 1,4
  to word! fun(call, me, args)
 GS == fun(call, me, args)
 
 It's interesting, but how to use it? If you put load (or load/next) it
 would throw the error anyway:(

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-24 Thread rebOldes

Hello Gabriele,

Thursday, December 18, 2003, 10:42:33 AM, you wrote:


GS Hi rebOldes,

GS On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 6:09:34 PM, you wrote:

r I can, but it's much more slower and it would mean to make it
r completely again. Maybe I could use load/next but how to convert
r invalid word to word?

 to word! whatever you wish
GS == whatever you wish
 to word! 1,4
GS == 1,4
 to word! fun(call, me, args)
GS == fun(call, me, args)

It's interesting, but how to use it? If you put load (or load/next) it
would throw the error anyway:(

 x: 1 2 3
== 1 2 3
 while [not empty? x][
[ set [y x] load/next x
[ print [mold y mold x]
[]
1  2 3
2  3
3 

 x: 1 2 a,b,c 3 4 d/:i._x
== 1 2 a,b,c 3 4 d/:i._x
 while [not empty? x][
[ set [y x] load/next x
[ print [mold y mold x]
[]
1  2 a,b,c 3 4 d/:i._x
2  a,b,c 3 4 d/:i._x
** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- a,b,c
** Near: (line 1) a,b,c 3 4 d/:i._x



Anyway it would be useful only if the unknow! datatype would hold all
value which would cause the problem:
For example in:
 load d/1.item._x
** Syntax Error: Invalid tuple -- 1.item._x
** Near: (line 1) d/1.item._x

Would return  'd/1.item._x' not only '1.item._x'


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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-20 Thread rebOldes

Hello Gabriele,

Thursday, December 18, 2003, 10:42:33 AM, you wrote:


GS Hi rebOldes,

GS On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 6:09:34 PM, you wrote:

r I can, but it's much more slower and it would mean to make it
r completely again. Maybe I could use load/next but how to convert
r invalid word to word?

 to word! whatever you wish
GS == whatever you wish
 to word! 1,4
GS == 1,4
 to word! fun(call, me, args)
GS == fun(call, me, args)


Very interesting.
Thanks

GS Regards,
GSGabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-18 Thread Gabriele Santilli

Hi rebOldes,

On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 6:09:34 PM, you wrote:

r I can, but it's much more slower and it would mean to make it
r completely again. Maybe I could use load/next but how to convert
r invalid word to word?

 to word! whatever you wish
== whatever you wish
 to word! 1,4
== 1,4
 to word! fun(call, me, args)
== fun(call, me, args)

Regards,
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-18 Thread Carl Read

On 18-Dec-03, Gabriele Santilli wrote:

 Hi rebOldes,

 On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 6:09:34 PM, you wrote:

 I can, but it's much more slower and it would mean to make it
 completely again. Maybe I could use load/next but how to convert
 invalid word to word?

 to word! whatever you wish
 == whatever you wish
 to word! 1,4
 == 1,4
 to word! fun(call, me, args)
 == fun(call, me, args)

Hm...

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread Carl Read

On 16-Dec-03, rebOldes wrote:

 Hello Carl,

 As you are preparing new build of Rebol, I would like to ask you, If
 it would be possible to change somehow handling of invalid
 datatypes

 As I'm working on a probably the largest known dialect using Rebol -
 the Rebol/Flash dialect ( http://oldes.multimedia.cz/swf/ ), I
 still feel very limited because of impossibility to use some words.

 For example I would like to have in my dialect code words like this
 one:

 objects/1._x
 ** Syntax Error: Invalid decimal -- 1._x
 ** Near: (line 1) objects/1._x

 As you can see, it's recognized as an invalid decimal. So here comes
 the question. Would it be possible to change this behavior to
 something which we could use? There were already some discussions on
 mailing list about this issue months ago, but I still don't know
 your opinion.

 I think the best way would be to handle these 'invalid' words as a
 special word which would not be able to hold some values but I would
 be able to parse this word as a normal string.

 If it will be a problem maybe it would help to use some refinement
 in the 'load function not to throw these invalid datatype errors
 and convert these invalid datatypes.

 If you would make this change, I would be able to make for example
 functions as are known in other languages for example:

 myFunc(a, 2, a + b)

 because loading such a dialect would not throw error like:
 load [myFunc(a, 2, a + b)]
 ** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- a,
 ** Near: (line 1) load [myFunc(a, 2, a + b)]

The problem would be that real errors wouldn't be caught.  Maybe we
need a special type of block that would allow this?  (Which would
require a new datatype - well, two new datatypes - the special block
and an unknown! datatype.)

Which is non-trivial I suspect.

For your Flash dialect Oldes, have you thought about a two-pass
approach?  The first pass would parse the file as a string,
converting your myFunc(a, 2, a + b)s and so on to strings (or what
datatypes or group of datatypes best suit them), with the second pass
performing the main parse.

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread Gabriele Santilli

Hi rebOldes,

On Monday, December 15, 2003, 2:50:06 PM, you wrote:

r I think the best way would be to handle these 'invalid' words as a
r special word which would not be able to hold some values but I would
r be able to parse this word as a normal string.

You  can use string parsing and then convert the strings to words.
(You  could  even  just use LOAD/NEXT and then use To-WORD when an
invalid word error occurs.)

Regards,
   Gabriele.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread rebOldes

Hello Carl,

Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 8:45:56 AM, you wrote:


CR On 16-Dec-03, rebOldes wrote:

 Hello Carl,

 As you are preparing new build of Rebol, I would like to ask you, If
 it would be possible to change somehow handling of invalid
 datatypes

 As I'm working on a probably the largest known dialect using Rebol -
 the Rebol/Flash dialect ( http://oldes.multimedia.cz/swf/ ), I
 still feel very limited because of impossibility to use some words.

 For example I would like to have in my dialect code words like this
 one:

 objects/1._x
 ** Syntax Error: Invalid decimal -- 1._x
 ** Near: (line 1) objects/1._x

 As you can see, it's recognized as an invalid decimal. So here comes
 the question. Would it be possible to change this behavior to
 something which we could use? There were already some discussions on
 mailing list about this issue months ago, but I still don't know
 your opinion.

 I think the best way would be to handle these 'invalid' words as a
 special word which would not be able to hold some values but I would
 be able to parse this word as a normal string.

 If it will be a problem maybe it would help to use some refinement
 in the 'load function not to throw these invalid datatype errors
 and convert these invalid datatypes.

 If you would make this change, I would be able to make for example
 functions as are known in other languages for example:

 myFunc(a, 2, a + b)

 because loading such a dialect would not throw error like:
 load [myFunc(a, 2, a + b)]
 ** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- a,
 ** Near: (line 1) load [myFunc(a, 2, a + b)]

CR The problem would be that real errors wouldn't be caught.  Maybe we
CR need a special type of block that would allow this?  (Which would
CR require a new datatype - well, two new datatypes - the special block
CR and an unknown! datatype.)

CR Which is non-trivial I suspect.

unknown! is a good name. For me it would be enough if such a datatype
would be recognized during 'load function - so it seems not to be such
a problem to me. Now we have a name as well:)

CR For your Flash dialect Oldes, have you thought about a two-pass
CR approach?  The first pass would parse the file as a string,
CR converting your myFunc(a, 2, a + b)s and so on to strings (or what
CR datatypes or group of datatypes best suit them), with the second pass
CR performing the main parse.

It's not a solution for something like objects/:i._x which I would
like to parse as _x possition of object i from array of objects.
Something what's not possible even in Rebol, but something, what could
be parsed in dialect easily if I would be able to load such a code.

Now I need to write:

tmp: objects/:i
tmp._x


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