[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-22 Thread r3b0l


 I wonder how fast it runs on your Pegasos board? Anyway I'm interested in
 any real world informations about the new Amiga-like systems. So could you
 write a bit about your experience? I mean your machine setup, performace

I use Rebol on my Pegasos G3/600 + Vodoo3000 or Radeon 7500 too... (yet another french 
amiga  pegasos user)
I'll probably update it to G4 model in October. I am registred Amiga rebol/view/pro 
user but i use it often on windows (mainly at work) and sometimes under linux.

MorphOS 1.4 is very stable now and we have lot of interesting ports like Scumm, 
Blender, Mplayer, etc.. and all my favourite applications works fine (Pagestream, 
Aweb, Ibrowse, Voyager, Apdf, Yam, RC5-72/OGR client, etc..).

Official websites :

http://www.morphos.net/
http://www.pegasosppc.org/

Other links :

http://www.morphos-news.de/
http://www.morphzone.org/

 regarding Rebol programs, what version of View are you using(I thing you are
 using it under some kind of emulation, isn't that?)

Yes a native PPC version would be fine (Amiga G3 / G4 version, G5 isn't yet available) 
!

I am curently writing an how-to install Rebol on MorphOS / PegasOS... I presume 
french version will be first available in next weeks on http://www.rebolfrance.org/ 
website. An english version will follows with lot of screenshots.

 Anyway, demo or die! :-)

Sure, 

 
 regards,
 
 Cyphre

AMIGAlly,

Arnaud aka bigdan
near Vesoul, France

 
 PS: I have heard some rumours that MorphOS team wanted to make a port f View
 for their system. Anyone knows more?

You could try to mail Nicolas Sallin aka Henes (nsallin at fr dot genesi dot 
lu)... and also ask more details to Carl or Holger of course ;-)
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[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-19 Thread A J Martin

Sbastien 'Jedi' Jeudy wrote:
 My first demo in Rebol :

 The OldsKool Demo :)

 Available here : http://reboleur.free.fr/OldsKool/OldsKool.zip

I like it, Sbastien.

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[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-19 Thread Cyphre

Hi Sébastien,

Nice demo!

I wonder how fast it runs on your Pegasos board? Anyway I'm interested in
any real world informations about the new Amiga-like systems. So could you
write a bit about your experience? I mean your machine setup, performace
regarding Rebol programs, what version of View are you using(I thing you are
using it under some kind of emulation, isn't that?)
Anyway, demo or die! :-)

regards,

Cyphre

PS: I have heard some rumours that MorphOS team wanted to make a port f View
for their system. Anyone knows more?

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Subject: [REBOL] The OldsKool Demo :-)




 Yo all,

 My first demo in Rebol :

 The OldsKool Demo :)


 Available here : http://reboleur.free.fr/OldsKool/OldsKool.zip


 - scrolling texts in french and in english,
 - synchronisation with the speed of your processor (better quality with
 power ;).

 Enjoy it ! :)

 Regards,
 Sébastien 'Jedi' Jeudy.

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[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-19 Thread Sébastien Jeudy


Yo all,

Thanks for ALL your feedbacks :)


@Anton:

Thank you very much for your optimizations! :)
That was exactly what I would like to optimize ;)

So, a new archive of the OldsKool Demo has been uploaded at :
http://reboleur.free.fr/OldsKool/OldsKool.zip

(including these optimizations + correction of 'merge (effects) for the new View 
Beta...).

Regards,
Sébastien 'Jedi' Jeudy.
http://reboleur.free.fr


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Subject : [REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)


Very nice!
Now for some optimizations :)

; scroll1
;c1: load %c1.bmp c2: load %c2.bmp c3: ...
;cars1: [   c1 A c2 B c3 C c4 D c5 ...

Instead of using the system above, try this:

cars1:  ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789.,:!?+-*/()
bmps: copy []
repeat n length? cars1 [append bmps load join %c [n .bmp]]

And later on:

; scroll1
;for n1 1 nb-car-ecran1 1 [ ; Use repeat instead of for.
repeat n1 nb-car-ecran1 [ ; Less code and a little faster.
pos1: n1
either pos1  (nb-car-ecran1 - pos-scroll1) [
;car1: select cars1 to-string  
car1: if find cars1   [select bmps index? find cars1  ]
] [ pos1: pos-scroll1 + n1 - nb-car-ecran1
;car1: select cars1 to-string scroll1/:pos1
car1: if find cars1 scroll1/:pos1 [pick bmps index? find cars1
scroll1/:pos1]
]

You could also save all your bitmaps in one file, then
you can load them all at once into bmps.

save %bmps1.r bmps
bmps: reduce load %bmps1.r

Anton.

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[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-19 Thread Sébastien Jeudy


 Hi Sébastien,

Hi Cyphre :)


 Nice demo!

Thanks ;)


 I wonder how fast it runs on your Pegasos board?

Very slow :( (better rate is 0.1s...)
'coz Rebol View is still the Amiga 1.2.1.1.1 for 68k (so under emulation for PowerPC 
(G3). Not really an emulation due to the compatibility of the system, and a very good 
JIT included in MorphOS ;)


 Anyway I'm interested in any real world informations about the 
 new Amiga-like systems. So could you write a bit about your 
 experience? I mean your machine setup, performace regarding Rebol 
 programs, what version of View are you using(I thing you are
 using it under some kind of emulation, isn't that?)
 Anyway, demo or die! :-)

I have a Pegasos PPC [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 256 Mo SDRam + Radeon 7500 AGP + HD 40Go IDE 
+ DVD + ...
That the Pegasos1, no more manufactured, only for Betatesters (600 units solds arround 
the world). But soon (for the end of 2003) will come the Pegasos2 with G3 AND G4 + DDR 
+ ... (for the large public :) (project: G5 for Pegasos ;)

Now, MorphOS is v1.4, more stable, with more and more options  tools, and a 
SuperBundle of Software (for the moment totally free for all the Pegasos users :). And 
the compatibility with the classic Amiga applications are also more and more better 
(for example : no problem with the system applications). (nota: after OpenFirmware, 
MorphOS boots on Ambient (Workbench) in... less 5s ! :)

Concerning Rebol on MorphOS, with the version above (Amiga 68k), for example your 
Shadow of The Beast / Arcadia runs at max 17 FPS...
In generally, Rebol runs well on MorphOS (NO problem of compatibility), but become 
slow with applications requiring power...
However, Linux PPC runs also on Pegasos, but I've never tested the version of View for 
Linux PPC... (certainly faster than Amiga 68k version ;)


 regards,
 
 Cyphre

 PS: I have heard some rumours that MorphOS team wanted to make a 
 port of View for their system. Anyone knows more?

What I know : Genesi (Pegasos/MorphOS) contacted Rebol Company to ask them to port 
native Rebol on MorphOS. Rebol company is interesting for that, but has other 
priorities for the moment (Pegasos units and users are also too few, not really a 
market...).

Perharps Carl could say more regarding this point... ;)


Regards,
Jedi, who want Rebol native on MorphOS ! :)

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[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-18 Thread Petr Krenzelok

Sébastien Jeudy wrote:

Yo all,

My first demo in Rebol :

The OldsKool Demo :)


Available here : http://reboleur.free.fr/OldsKool/OldsKool.zip


- scrolling texts in french and in english,
- synchronisation with the speed of your processor (better quality with 
power ;).

Enjoy it ! :)

Regards,
Sébastien 'Jedi' Jeudy.

  

so cool! Now finally Cyphre and Oldes got their competition ;-) Well, 
your demo reminds me of Amiga demos! Now if we could get some smoother 
scrolling with Rebol, it would be even cooler :-)

-pekr-

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[REBOL] Re: The OldsKool Demo :-)

2003-09-18 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Sébastien,

SJ My first demo in Rebol :

And a very cool demo it is! Nice work!

-- Gregg

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