Re: [recoznet2] Stop Genocide - Grandmother's Petition - The Block Redfern

1999-07-12 Thread Don Clark




Don ClarkPresidentIndigenous Social Justice AssociationPO Box 
K555HAYMARKET NSW 1240

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  Subject: [recoznet2] Stop Genocide - 
  Grandmother's Petition - The Block Redfern
  
  *please note - this response is from me personallyfor those have 
  doubts about the petition, and for those who responded, then qualified 
  their support after Don's postthe petition has been 
  signed by residents of The Block, who want a peaceful community, not be moved 
  out so others can develop a corporate centre or marketplace just because it is 
  on the city fringe and someone wants to make money off the backs of those who 
  think of The block as home
  
  You say that the petition has been signed by 
  residents of the Block. I have never seen the signatures of those 
  residents. The only signature (sic) I have seen is "by an official 
  interpreter for residents of the Block" How can you call this a 
  signature and why would members of the Block need an official 
  interpreter. I know many people who live in the Block and I have never 
  met a supporter of your petition (as yet - and I am always open to any 
  introduction). Until I meet with yoru supporters or can see signatures 
  by Indigenous people from the Block - then I cannot believe 
  you.
  
  It is my understanding that the Block IS to have housing. 
  At least those are the plans that have been filed. Do you know something 
  that the planning people do not know?
  the only way to make change is to participate in 
  bringing it about
  
  I agree. But I still do not know who you 
  represent (you have been seen at meetings with your petition - but never with 
  anyone from the Block) and, as I have stated in an email directly to you, my 
  Association has taken a neutral stance due to the fact that we ahve members 
  who support the MANY differing views on what should or should not happen to 
  the Block. So this Association is not 
  participating.
  the petition asks for supportthose on this list will 
  make up their own minds about signing it or not, and about participating in 
  change by circulating the petition as i believe that just signing it isn't 
  enough - big numbers are needed to address big problems
  
  I believe I stated something similar. 
  
  
  Quote: I leave it to other members of the list 
  group to make up their own minds. Iam not trying to influence them 
  either. I am, however, trying to giveclarification of where I and my 
  Association is with this petition.Don said in his post, many 
  don't know what is happening on The Block, which is evidently the 
  casehowever, i think many do know as well, if not details and the whole 
  picture, then they do have a general understanding - even media has picked up 
  on it by screening it on SBS 
  
  And many have a general understanding of Aboriginal 
  issues per se. However, that does not give them the right to speak for 
  others without their permission - and I do not know that you ahve that 
  permission.
  some issues for those who don't know ...-that 
  aboriginal people are being bulldozed (no matter who is driving it) out of the 
  black heart of oz Redfern and The Block specifically - ie racial group being 
  dispersed from land granted in the 70's
  
  The "no matter who is driving it" is interesting, 
  particularly when you say "racial group". It is my understanding that 
  much of this is being done by members of that same racial group. Is that 
  not your understanding too? The phrase "racial group" in this instance 
  sounds like an attempt to emotionalise what I am trying to 
  say.
  -that the vision in the 70's was for a safety zone, not 
  a war zone
  
  Safety for drug sellers, etc??
  -that if 'a better block for a better black' is the 
  goal, then what has 'commerce' got to do with this
  
  Until indigenous people can create their own 
  commerce and take control of it we will not have the power to take control of 
  our own lives. I have nothing against commercialism, if it is performed 
  in the right maner. but I take exception with the phrase "better 
  black". Is this an attempt at divisiveness?
  that if 'a better block for a better black' is the goal, 
  why are the locals being moved so far away?
  
  Once again that divisive phrase
  
  -that the demolition for the comercialisation of The Block 
  continues to make, and has made many residents homeless
  
  It is my understanding that no resident of the Block 
  has been made homeless - by this I mean no person who was a client of the 
  Housing Company. Show this Association the proof of this and we will 
  take our own actions. Do not show this Association the proof of this and 
  I will once again claim "emotionalisingphrases".
  -that a building owned by the council, that spans half a 
  street, stays empty year after year, instead of providing desperately needed 
  crisis 

[recoznet2] The minister for uranium mines wins...

1999-07-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray



The Australian

  Coalition victory on Jabiluka
  By MEGAN SAUNDERS

  13jul99

  THE Howard Government last night persuaded the UNESCO World
  Heritage Committee to decide against an immediate endangered
  finding for Kakadu National Park over the Jabiluka uranium mine.

  In a significant diplomatic victory, Government sources said a
  majority of the committee's 21 members – Cuba was one exception
  – sided with the Government at an extraordinary meeting in Paris .

  By late last night, Italy, Thailand and Japan – which chairs the
  committee – had spoken out against the "In Danger" listing.

  A spokesman for Australian Greens Senator Bob Brown said: "We
  are horrified at the direction things are heading".

  But a final vote on the Northern Territory site, which could have the
  internationally contentious issue referred to the next committee
  meeting within six months for further scrutiny, was expected
  overnight.

  A spokesman for Environment Minister Robert Hill said the success
  had vindicated the Government's support for the new mine.

  The Government and mine owner ERA Ltd had planned to provide
  assurances that the Northern Territory site would be strictly
  policed.

  In a last-minute boost to the Government's chances before the
  vote, it was almost certain to win the crucial backing of the US. The
  vote had been expected to be knife-edge.

  The Government needed the votes of just over a third of the
  21-member committee, since a two-thirds majority was needed to
  declare the world-famous park in danger from the adjoining mine.
  For almost a week, it has been trying to avoid having Kakadu listed
  as "In Danger"..

  Central to the Government's argument has been legal advice that
  the committee could not list an area without the consent of the
  Government.

  Senator Hill and ERA, a North Ltd subsidiary, have offered to delay
  full-scale production at Jabiluka until 2006 as the nearby Ranger
  mine winds down, so production does not rise above the Ranger
  rate.

  "This concept of successive mines . . . not only demonstrates good
  faith but (has also) been received positively by at least some
  members of the World Heritage Committee," Senator Hill told ABC
  Radio from Paris.

  "What they don't explain to me is why the huge open-cut mine of
  Ranger for the last 18 years has not been a threat and they
  accepted it was not a threat," he said.

  "How can a small, underground mine of 20 years on in terms of
  technology suddenly put 20,000 square kilometres of park in
  danger?

  "It is this inconsistency of the experts' advice that we have found
  disappointing."

  However, any finding in support of the Jabiluka project was
  expected to meet widespread condemnation from environmental,
  indigenous and opposition political groups.

  A spokesman for Australian Greens Senator Bob Brown said it
  increasingly appeared as though environmentalists and traditional
  indigenous owners faced an uphill battle.

  Labor and the Democrats have also slammed the Government's
  lobbying.

  "The whole integrity of the world heritage convention is now at
  stake," the spokesman for Senator Brown said.

  "The Australian Government has bullied, bought and hoodwinked
  the committee, putting politics above sound policy."

  Prominent indigenous leader Patrick Dodson said earlier yesterday
  Jabiluka would destroy the spirit of the traditional owners, the
  Mirrar people.

  Leading environmental consultant and historian, Professor John
  Mulvaney, accused the Government of attempting to "wreck"
  UNESCO through its unprecedented lobbying efforts.

  Professor Mulvaney – a foundation member of the Australian
  Heritage Commission – accused the Government of embarking on
  an intense and shameless exercise in vote buying and political arm
  twisting.



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[recoznet2] The real obscenity!

1999-07-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray

SMH
GLOBAL INEQUITIES

Three families top 600m poor

Date: 13/07/99

London: The combined wealth of the world's three richest families is greater
than the annual income of 600 million people in the least
developed countries, according to a United Nations report released yesterday.

Economic globalisation is further polarising those such as Microsoft's Mr Bill
Gates, the Walton family, who own the Wal-Mart empire,
and the Sultan of Brunei - worth $US135 billion ($205 billion) combined - and
the millions who have been left behind, the UN's Human
Development report says.

UN figures show that over the past four years, the world's 200 richest people
have doubled their wealth to more than $US1 trillion. In
the same period, the number of people living on less than $US1 a day has
remained unchanged at 1.3 billion.

"Global inequalities in income and living standards have reached grotesque
proportions," the report says. Canada ranks number one again
for quality of life, while war-ravaged Sierra Leone stays bottom of the table.
Australia is ranked seventh.

To counter the downside of globalisation, the UN recommends a forum of business,
trade unions and environmental and development
groups to counter the dominance of the leading industrial nations; a code of
conduct for multinationals; and the creation of a legal centre
to help poor countries with global trade negotiations. - The Guardian

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[recoznet2] Kakadu poll online

1999-07-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray


Ninemsn online poll

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/default.asp

Should UNESCO list Kakadu as being in danger because of
the Jabiluka uranium mine?


Trudy

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[recoznet2] Back online...

1999-07-12 Thread Glenn Murray

Hi guys, I'm back online.  Here's my new email address.

How much did I miss?

Glenn Murray
"I am a peanut"

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[recoznet2] 7:30 Report ABC TV - Second Croc Eisteddfod

1999-07-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray


7:30 Report ABC TV
Transcript
12/07/1999
Weipa youth stage second Croc
Eisteddfod

MAXINE McKEW: The Rock Eisteddfod is a
well-established event on school calendars throughout
Australia's big cities. 40,000 pupils from 400 schools
perform their music and dance routines each year,
culminating in eight TV specials which are viewed by
one in three teenagers. The events promote alcohol and
drug education, well and good, of course, if you go to
school in the big smoke, but what about young people in
remote areas?

Well, a little-known spectacle called the Croc
Eisteddfod was born last year in Weipa, on the far west
coast of Cape York. It's an event with a positive lifestyle
message pitched at indigenous kids. After a nervous
launch, a second successful Croc has just ended. Murray
McLaughlin reports.

MURRAY MCLAUGHLIN: They travelled huge
distances to get to Weipa, by boat, bus and light plane,
from remote communities in Torres Strait, Cape York
and Far North Queensland. 750 children from 23
schools. But unlike its big-city counterpart, the Rock
Eisteddfod, this Croc Eisteddfod is not a competitive
event.

PETER SHOWQUIST, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: The
challenge was just to get here and to put on a show,
which was great. So in effect, that they're being
challenged to do their best within the context of a 100
per cent tobacco, alcohol and drug-free environment.
That's what's worked and we're just delighted with the
outcome.

MURRAY MCLAUGHLIN: No 20-hour bus ride on
bumpy dirt roads for the swag of VIPs who came to
Weipa for the festival. As diverse as the festival acts
were the messages from Aboriginal Affairs Minister,
John Herron, and Federal Court Justice Marcus Einfeld,
who each opened a night of events under the stars.

JUSTICE MARCUS EINFELD, FEDERAL COURT
JUDGE: We continue to deny indigenous people the
very equal opportunity to a fair chance in life, which we
Australians like to call "a fair go for all".

SENATOR JOHN HERRON, ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS
MINISTER: I say to all t he performers, it's up to you to
realise your dreams. I did it and so can you.

MURRAY MCLAUGHLIN: But these kids from Jessica
Point State School at Nepranum are unlikely, on
present trends, to realise their dreams in their home
town. Nepranum adjoins Comalco's huge mine at Weipa.
Comalco gave generously to this festival. It housed and
fed all the participants and gave money, as well. But the
company's record of Aboriginal employment is not as
exemplary. After 30 years of mining bauxite here, its
workforce of 500 is less than 10 per cent Aboriginal and
most of them come from beyond these parts.

JANE GEORGE, NEPRANUM COMMUNITY ELDER:
There's hardly any men from here, a few of them are
Torres Strait.

MURRAY McLAUGHLIN: Did the men from here want
to work at Comalco?

JANE GEORGE: Oh yes, yeah. But they choose which
one they want.

MURRAY MCLAUGHLIN: What have been the
inhibitions to having more Aboriginal people in the
workforce?

ROD KINKEAD-WEEKES, COMALCO: I think they
include the difficulties that we have on occasions with
training programs. I think the cultural differences.
We're seeking to address all of these through mentoring
and buddy programs and we're also seeking to address
these through an increased level of cross-cultural
training for our workforce in general.

MURRAY McLAUGHLIN: With unemployment for
Aborigines around 40 per cent and rising and 18 times
higher for Aboriginal youth than the rest of the youth
population, career development was a dominant feature
at this year's Croc Eisteddfod. And with truancy a big
problem in remote schools, the festival itself is helping
to get kids to school.

PETER SHOWQUIST: The teachers have used the
festival as a carrot, saying, "Tomorrow, we're going to
do design of the set "and the day after, we're going to
paint the backdrop, "Thursday, we're going to make
costumes, "by the way, what theme are we going to do?"
All that sort of educational process.

MURRAY MCLAUGHLIN: The festival this year was a
useful one-stop shop for the Equal Rights and Equal
Opportunities Commission. Chris Sidoti is running an
inquiry into rural and remote education and he had a
ready opportunity in Weipa to question children,
teachers and parents about their problems.

CHRIS SIDOTI, HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUAL
OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION: The one that regularly
comes up is the question of race relations, tensions in
schools between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal
students. Sometimes not even tensions, but almost a
complete separation, socially and in terms of activities,
between the two groups.

And other questions relate to the isolation that country
kids face, their inability to have even the basic contact
with other schools that is taken for granted in city areas.
So country kids can't be involved in interschool sport as
much or debating or other forms of activity. And
cultural events like this, the Croc Eisteddfod, become
especially important for them as a way of making
contact with other kids.

MURRAY McLAUGHLIN: Two 

Re: [recoznet2] Stop Genocide - Grandmother's Petition - The Block Redfern

1999-07-12 Thread Don Clark

As I have continually stated, I have asked around and have found NO ONE who
knows anything of your petition or who you represent.

I have not sighted any person's signature on your petition at any time, so
cannot verify it by that example.

And believe me it is not through want of trying.  So my question still
stands, ASK WHO??  Your reluctance to answer seems to me to give me enough
to treat your petition with suspicion - until such time as I can verify its
veracity.

Don

Don Clark
President
Indigenous Social Justice Association
PO Box K555
HAYMARKET  NSW  1240
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 1999 4:47
Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Stop Genocide - Grandmother's Petition - The Block
Redfern


 At 22:49 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
 
  Don Clark President Indigenous Social Justice Association
  PO Box K555 HAYMARKET  NSW  1240
 
  - Original Message -
  From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]webweave
  To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, 9 July 1999 10:22
  Subject: [recoznet2] Stop Genocide - Grandmother's Petition - The Block
  Redfern
 
  *please note - this response is from me personally
 
I just like to know that I am signing a petition FROM THE PEOPLE OF
THE
  BLOCK, BY THE PEOPLE OF THE BLOCK.
 


 go ask them
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