Re: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion
Sioux, A good place to start when looking at racism/stereotyping is http://www.hreoc.gov.au they have some very good articles on their site and they also have many publications which can be purchased. This is an interesting article about Deaths in Custody. http://138.25.138.94/acij/reportage5/R5DIC.html Also the ATSIC site has much on Deaths in Custody (can't remember the site name), also the Australian Institute of Criminology site (ditto) Hope this helps. Don Don Clark President Indigenous Social Justice Association PO Box K555 There can be no real reconciliation without social justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] HAYMARKET NSW 1240 - Original Message - From: Sioux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, 27 August 1999 12:36 Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion > Hau Trudy Works Fast :-) > > Please may I request a copy of each of the speeches? > > Also I wondered if you had any reports on racism/stereotyping and or Deaths > in Custody? > > Pilamaya tanka my sister.. > > Sioux > > At 10:18 27/08/99 +1000, you wrote: > > > >I have a copy of all the speeches made on the Motion of regret: > >Howard > >Beazley > >Anderson > >Melham > >Ruddock > >Snowdon > >Andren (reserved the right to speak) > > > >It is very interesting reading and brings home in no uncertain terms that > this > >so-called 'regret' has less to do with regret than it has to do with Howard's > >political time-table and a notch as another "Howard Achievement" > >Some of the speeches are inspiring and give hope that understanding does > exist. > > > >Contact me for copies of all or parts. > > > >Trudy > > > >--- > >RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived > at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > >To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the > body > >of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce > >This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without > permission from the > >copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and > research under the "fair > >use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be > distributed further without > >permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > > > >RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > > > > --- > RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body > of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce > This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the > copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair > use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without > permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > > RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ > --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/
Re: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion
I will do a search of my articles later if that is OK. I am running behind right now, too many real life interruptions;-) Trudy Sioux wrote: > Hau Trudy Works Fast :-) > > Please may I request a copy of each of the speeches? > > Also I wondered if you had any reports on racism/stereotyping and or Deaths > in Custody? > > Pilamaya tanka my sister.. > > Sioux > > At 10:18 27/08/99 +1000, you wrote: > > > >I have a copy of all the speeches made on the Motion of regret: > >Howard > >Beazley > >Anderson > >Melham > >Ruddock > >Snowdon > >Andren (reserved the right to speak) > > > >It is very interesting reading and brings home in no uncertain terms that > this > >so-called 'regret' has less to do with regret than it has to do with Howard's > >political time-table and a notch as another "Howard Achievement" > >Some of the speeches are inspiring and give hope that understanding does > exist. > > > >Contact me for copies of all or parts. > > > >Trudy > > > >--- > >RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived > at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > >To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the > body > >of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce > >This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without > permission from the > >copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and > research under the "fair > >use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be > distributed further without > >permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > > > >RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > > > > --- > RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at >http://www.mail-archive.com/ > To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body > of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce > This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission >from the > copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under >the "fair > use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further >without > permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > > RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ -- + "the things that will destroy us: politics without principle, pleasure without conscience, wealth without work, knowledge without character, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice and business without morality." ---Mahatma Gandhi + --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/
Re: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion
Yes please. Would love copies. -Original Message- From: Trudy and Rod Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RecOzNet2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 10:10 AM Subject: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion I have a copy of all the speeches made on the Motion of regret: Howard Beazley Anderson Melham Ruddock Snowdon Andren (reserved the right to speak) It is very interesting reading and brings home in no uncertain terms that this so-called 'regret' has less to do with regret than it has to do with Howard's political time-table and a notch as another "Howard Achievement" Some of the speeches are inspiring and give hope that understanding does exist. Contact me for copies of all or parts. Trudy --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/
Re: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion
Thankyou Trudy and Rod for your unceasing committment to this issue, I won't take up the offer for copies of speeches as I'm sure they would only serve to anger me further. This conflagration about words for a preamble, is a beautiful smokescreen for little Johnnie and his ilk. As we have experienced too often, the pathetic political grandstanding of politicians speeches (read :campaign soliloquies), rarely address the heart of the matter, I find their vacuous words far too tedious to contemplate. For me,The fact that the preamble is not actually part of the constitution takes the interest out of this debate. I can't get excited about little Johnnie doing the soft-shoe shuffle about the preamble, trying desperately not to say anything that might undermine his next election campaign, when there is no intelligent political discussion of legislative change that would address SUBSTANTIVE citizenship for Australia's First peoples. As others have mentioned what is the point in expressing "personal sorrow" or "sincere regret" for those abducted from their homes, while simultaneously opposing claims for compensation from the very people that little Johnnie would have accept this token of regret, this insincere lie? Dispossession and genocide continue while we waffle on about little Johnnie and reconciliation. Many consider reconciliation a sell-out, a sick joke, while sovereignty , land rights and substantive citizenship are ignored. Where's the fucking treaty? shove your apologies! An abject apology with little Johnnie laying prostrate before the nation might be amusing, but would not be worth jack-shit while structural white priviledge remains as solid and exclusive as ever. Try telling a young Indigenous boy in an adults jail that little Johnnie is gonna make it all up to him. Aden Ridgeway has the chance to make some noise , an opportunity to make little Johnnie listen to an Indigenous voice in parliament, however I fear that acquiescence to little Johnnie's insulting bullshit is not the voice I was hoping to hear. Dave. -Original Message- From: Trudy and Rod Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RecOzNet2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, 27 August 1999 10:08 Subject: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion > >I have a copy of all the speeches made on the Motion of regret: >Howard >Beazley >Anderson >Melham >Ruddock >Snowdon >Andren (reserved the right to speak) > >It is very interesting reading and brings home in no uncertain terms that this >so-called 'regret' has less to do with regret than it has to do with Howard's >political time-table and a notch as another "Howard Achievement" >Some of the speeches are inspiring and give hope that understanding does exist. > >Contact me for copies of all or parts. > >Trudy > >--- >RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ >To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body >of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce >This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the >copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair >use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without >permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > >RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/
Re: [recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion
Hau Trudy Works Fast :-) Please may I request a copy of each of the speeches? Also I wondered if you had any reports on racism/stereotyping and or Deaths in Custody? Pilamaya tanka my sister.. Sioux At 10:18 27/08/99 +1000, you wrote: > >I have a copy of all the speeches made on the Motion of regret: >Howard >Beazley >Anderson >Melham >Ruddock >Snowdon >Andren (reserved the right to speak) > >It is very interesting reading and brings home in no uncertain terms that this >so-called 'regret' has less to do with regret than it has to do with Howard's >political time-table and a notch as another "Howard Achievement" >Some of the speeches are inspiring and give hope that understanding does exist. > >Contact me for copies of all or parts. > >Trudy > >--- >RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ >To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body >of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce >This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the >copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair >use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without >permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > >RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/
[recoznet2] Speeches on the Motion
I have a copy of all the speeches made on the Motion of regret: Howard Beazley Anderson Melham Ruddock Snowdon Andren (reserved the right to speak) It is very interesting reading and brings home in no uncertain terms that this so-called 'regret' has less to do with regret than it has to do with Howard's political time-table and a notch as another "Howard Achievement" Some of the speeches are inspiring and give hope that understanding does exist. Contact me for copies of all or parts. Trudy --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/
