Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Joyce Tikalsky]

Thanks for the Foundation tip, Joel.

Another responsive framework for web design is the Web Experience Toolkit, 
which emphasizes accessibility for people with disabilities and usability.

 http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/ws-nw/wa-aw/wet-boew/index-eng.asp

I haven't tested it yet.

On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:43:56 AM UTC-5, Joel Kinzel wrote:
>
> Bootstrap is a great framework, and we are currently using it to produce a 
> few website from our install of 11.0 (soon to be 11.2). 
>
> Another framework that you may want to look into is called Foundation.
>
> http://foundation.zurb.com/
>
> I personally like foundation a little better than bootstrap, but our main 
> communications/marketing team here produced a non-CMS template using 
> bootstrap, so alas, I'm stuck using bootstrap.
>
> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:23:40 AM UTC-5, Daniel Petroff wrote:
>>
>> Ah! Cool, thanks!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 15:06, Jian Huang  wrote:
>>
>> Bootstrap is a responsive web design framework.  It is relatively out of 
>> the box, just need to use their css and HTML structure
>>
>> Demo:
>> http://getbootstrap.com/examples/theme/
>>
>> HTML instruction:
>> http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/
>>
>> -Jian
>>
>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:03:12 AM UTC-4, Daniel Petroff wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jian
>>>
>>> Thanks for elaborating!
>>>
>>> Could you write a bit more around the  bootstrap/foundation/skeleton you 
>>> mentioned? Sorry if this seems like a notice question, just wanted to 
>>> understand what you mean exactly. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Jian Huang  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I figured I should elaborate.
>>>
>>> Assuming you have a legacy site from 2008 or something, and you are not 
>>> doing a site redesign.  Then dire a web company to give you JS and CSS, 
>>> when added to the site, and when site is viewed in mobile size (viewport), 
>>> the JS and CSS kicks in and resizes.
>>>
>>> If you are already doing a redesign, new project variant, in the new 
>>> template, go bootstrap/foundation/skeleton.  End product = mobile version 
>>> of the site that is good for Desktop and mobile.
>>>
>>> -Jian
>>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:29:46 AM UTC-4, Jian Huang wrote:

 My thought exactly.

 On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:
>
> Why not just make your site responsive?
>
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot 
>> site?
>>
>> We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
>>
>> We were considering two options:
>>
>> 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with 
>> this is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory 
>> for the mobile version.
>> 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional 
>> dynament and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile 
>> version if false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make 
>> the 
>> code a bit convoluted (not really an issue).
>>
>> Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, 
>> other possible options that are viable.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: RedDot migration to Drupal - anyone?

[Alexandra Barcelona]

Hi Jian,

Alexandra from Siteport here :) You've brought up some good points, but 
there are several reasons why we connect to the source and target CMS for 
migrations:

- By connecting through the API, we're able to maintain the hierarchy of 
the pages (e.g. we know the parent/child relationships)

- We're also able to maintain componentization (in OpenText's case, we know 
which components are within each container and what their order is)

- We're able to maintain links between pages and to images within rich text 
fields by knowing their internal links instead of the published link 
locations

- We're able to migrate all metadata (categories and keywords)

- In some cases we're even able to migrate workflows and authorization 
package information

- Last, we can do all these things while reducing the content freeze window 
for content editors to something as small as a single day. They can 
continue to edit content while the migration is being set up and tested.

None of these would easily be possible with an XML export or publish of the 
content from OT WSM.

That's all for my shameless self promotion :)  

If you want more information, please email us to i...@siteport.net or go to 
www.siteport.net.

Alex
http://siteport.net


On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:44:39 AM UTC-7, Jian Huang wrote:
>
> Ahh, siteport.net.  Personally, I think they are cashing on the catch 
> phrase of "linking into existing CMS".  It is not needed.
>
> 1.  One can make a new project variant, and have CMS publish the existing 
> content out in XML format.  Then use any existing FREE drupal migration 
> tools to import the XMLs.
> 2.  Why even go into CMS?  You have the published HTML files, use an HTML 
> to XML converter, then use any existing FREE drupal migration tools to 
> import the XMLs.
>
> -Jian
>
> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Joel Kinzel wrote:
>>
>> Check out site  siteport.net, I got a random e-mail from them not too 
>> long ago. It looks like their tool is able to migrate OT to a variety of 
>> different CMS systems.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:18:24 PM UTC-5, wsfn wrote:
>>>
>>> I've just been given the heads up that in 1 or 2 years we'll be 
>>> migrating to Drupal.  Has anyone worked with a RedDot 10 to Drupal 
>>> migration and have any resources or advice to get started?  I don't 
>>> want to be blindsided if at all possible.  It might be we can be doing 
>>> stuff now that will improve our changes of success later... 
>>>
>>> Thoughts, links, suggestions? 
>>>
>>> ~F
>>
>>

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Duplicarte page in Smart Edit

[Mario Brandt]

Hi,

is it possible to duplicate a whole page in Smart Edit as it is Smart Tree?
So far I've tried to open the Smart Tree url in a popup window and the
copying dialog shows up, but it fails to duplicate the page.


Cheers

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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Joel Kinzel]

Bootstrap is a great framework, and we are currently using it to produce a 
few website from our install of 11.0 (soon to be 11.2). 

Another framework that you may want to look into is called Foundation.

http://foundation.zurb.com/

I personally like foundation a little better than bootstrap, but our main 
communications/marketing team here produced a non-CMS template using 
bootstrap, so alas, I'm stuck using bootstrap.

On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:23:40 AM UTC-5, Daniel Petroff wrote:
>
> Ah! Cool, thanks!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10 Apr 2014, at 15:06, Jian Huang > 
> wrote:
>
> Bootstrap is a responsive web design framework.  It is relatively out of 
> the box, just need to use their css and HTML structure
>
> Demo:
> http://getbootstrap.com/examples/theme/
>
> HTML instruction:
> http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/
>
> -Jian
>
> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:03:12 AM UTC-4, Daniel Petroff wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jian
>>
>> Thanks for elaborating!
>>
>> Could you write a bit more around the  bootstrap/foundation/skeleton you 
>> mentioned? Sorry if this seems like a notice question, just wanted to 
>> understand what you mean exactly. :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Jian Huang  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I figured I should elaborate.
>>
>> Assuming you have a legacy site from 2008 or something, and you are not 
>> doing a site redesign.  Then dire a web company to give you JS and CSS, 
>> when added to the site, and when site is viewed in mobile size (viewport), 
>> the JS and CSS kicks in and resizes.
>>
>> If you are already doing a redesign, new project variant, in the new 
>> template, go bootstrap/foundation/skeleton.  End product = mobile version 
>> of the site that is good for Desktop and mobile.
>>
>> -Jian
>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:29:46 AM UTC-4, Jian Huang wrote:
>>>
>>> My thought exactly.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:

 Why not just make your site responsive?

 On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot 
> site?
>
> We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
>
> We were considering two options:
>
> 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with 
> this is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory 
> for the mobile version.
> 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional 
> dynament and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile 
> version if false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make 
> the 
> code a bit convoluted (not really an issue).
>
> Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, 
> other possible options that are viable.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: CSS in v11 - Rendered CSS in containers?

[Joel Kinzel]

They have an HTML comment around them, but the links should exist in the 
rendered HTML.

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:17:57 AM UTC-5, Jian Huang wrote:
>
> Hi Joel,
>
> lst_hiddenPages, are those link visible on the generated project start 
> page?  No link = no page publisher crawl = no published .css files
>
> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 3:57:57 PM UTC-4, Joel Kinzel wrote:
>>
>> Here is a screen shot of what my project structure looks like (using 
>> dynamic anchor and dynamic container): 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Here is another screen shot, this time not using dynamic elements: 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> And here is a screen shot of the HTML Header content class (both 
>> versions):
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> I published from "Project Home Page", and neither of these configurations 
>> produced the proper CSS files. Only CSS files using the media element were 
>> published properly. 
>>
>>

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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Daniel Petroff]

Ah! Cool, thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Apr 2014, at 15:06, Jian Huang  wrote:
> 
> Bootstrap is a responsive web design framework.  It is relatively out of the 
> box, just need to use their css and HTML structure
> 
> Demo:
> http://getbootstrap.com/examples/theme/
> 
> HTML instruction:
> http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/
> 
> -Jian
> 
>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:03:12 AM UTC-4, Daniel Petroff wrote:
>> Hi Jian
>> 
>> Thanks for elaborating!
>> 
>> Could you write a bit more around the  bootstrap/foundation/skeleton you 
>> mentioned? Sorry if this seems like a notice question, just wanted to 
>> understand what you mean exactly. :)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Jian Huang  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I figured I should elaborate.
>>> 
>>> Assuming you have a legacy site from 2008 or something, and you are not 
>>> doing a site redesign.  Then dire a web company to give you JS and CSS, 
>>> when added to the site, and when site is viewed in mobile size (viewport), 
>>> the JS and CSS kicks in and resizes.
>>> 
>>> If you are already doing a redesign, new project variant, in the new 
>>> template, go bootstrap/foundation/skeleton.  End product = mobile version 
>>> of the site that is good for Desktop and mobile.
>>> 
>>> -Jian
>>> 
 On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:29:46 AM UTC-4, Jian Huang wrote:
 My thought exactly.
 
> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:
> Why not just make your site responsive?
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot 
>> site?
>> 
>> We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
>> 
>> We were considering two options:
>> 
>> 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with 
>> this is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory 
>> for the mobile version.
>> 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional 
>> dynament and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile 
>> version if false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make 
>> the code a bit convoluted (not really an issue).
>> 
>> Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, other 
>> possible options that are viable.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Jian Huang]

Bootstrap is a responsive web design framework.  It is relatively out of 
the box, just need to use their css and HTML structure

Demo:
http://getbootstrap.com/examples/theme/

HTML instruction:
http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/

-Jian

On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:03:12 AM UTC-4, Daniel Petroff wrote:
>
> Hi Jian
>
> Thanks for elaborating!
>
> Could you write a bit more around the  bootstrap/foundation/skeleton you 
> mentioned? Sorry if this seems like a notice question, just wanted to 
> understand what you mean exactly. :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Daniel
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Jian Huang > 
> wrote:
>
>
> I figured I should elaborate.
>
> Assuming you have a legacy site from 2008 or something, and you are not 
> doing a site redesign.  Then dire a web company to give you JS and CSS, 
> when added to the site, and when site is viewed in mobile size (viewport), 
> the JS and CSS kicks in and resizes.
>
> If you are already doing a redesign, new project variant, in the new 
> template, go bootstrap/foundation/skeleton.  End product = mobile version 
> of the site that is good for Desktop and mobile.
>
> -Jian
> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:29:46 AM UTC-4, Jian Huang wrote:
>>
>> My thought exactly.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:
>>>
>>> Why not just make your site responsive?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:

 Hi all,

 What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot 
 site?

 We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.

 We were considering two options:

 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with 
 this is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory 
 for the mobile version.
 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional 
 dynament and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile 
 version if false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make 
 the 
 code a bit convoluted (not really an issue).

 Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, 
 other possible options that are viable.

 Thanks!

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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Daniel Petroff]

Hi Jian

Thanks for elaborating!

Could you write a bit more around the  bootstrap/foundation/skeleton you 
mentioned? Sorry if this seems like a notice question, just wanted to 
understand what you mean exactly. :)

Thanks!

Daniel

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Jian Huang  wrote:
> 
> 
> I figured I should elaborate.
> 
> Assuming you have a legacy site from 2008 or something, and you are not doing 
> a site redesign.  Then dire a web company to give you JS and CSS, when added 
> to the site, and when site is viewed in mobile size (viewport), the JS and 
> CSS kicks in and resizes.
> 
> If you are already doing a redesign, new project variant, in the new 
> template, go bootstrap/foundation/skeleton.  End product = mobile version of 
> the site that is good for Desktop and mobile.
> 
> -Jian
> 
>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:29:46 AM UTC-4, Jian Huang wrote:
>> My thought exactly.
>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:
>>> Why not just make your site responsive?
>>> 
 On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot site?
 
 We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
 
 We were considering two options:
 
 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with this 
 is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory for 
 the mobile version.
 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional dynament 
 and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile version if 
 false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make the code a 
 bit convoluted (not really an issue).
 
 Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, other 
 possible options that are viable.
 
 Thanks!
> 
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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Jian Huang]

I figured I should elaborate.

Assuming you have a legacy site from 2008 or something, and you are not 
doing a site redesign.  Then dire a web company to give you JS and CSS, 
when added to the site, and when site is viewed in mobile size (viewport), 
the JS and CSS kicks in and resizes.

If you are already doing a redesign, new project variant, in the new 
template, go bootstrap/foundation/skeleton.  End product = mobile version 
of the site that is good for Desktop and mobile.

-Jian
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:29:46 AM UTC-4, Jian Huang wrote:
>
> My thought exactly.
>
> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:
>>
>> Why not just make your site responsive?
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot 
>>> site?
>>>
>>> We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
>>>
>>> We were considering two options:
>>>
>>> 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with 
>>> this is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory 
>>> for the mobile version.
>>> 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional 
>>> dynament and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile 
>>> version if false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make the 
>>> code a bit convoluted (not really an issue).
>>>
>>> Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, other 
>>> possible options that are viable.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[Jian Huang]

My thought exactly.

On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, RustyLogic wrote:
>
> Why not just make your site responsive?
>
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot site?
>>
>> We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
>>
>> We were considering two options:
>>
>> 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with this 
>> is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory for the 
>> mobile version.
>> 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional dynament 
>> and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile version if 
>> false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make the code a bit 
>> convoluted (not really an issue).
>>
>> Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, other 
>> possible options that are viable.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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Re: Best practices to setup a mobile site in reddot

[RustyLogic]

Why not just make your site responsive?

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC+1, Ryu wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> What are your experiences in setting up a mobile version of a Reddot site?
>
> We currently have a very simple site, one variant, one language.
>
> We were considering two options:
>
> 1) Create a separate variant for mobile. The only issue we have with this 
> is that the pages will have to be published to a separate directory for the 
> mobile version.
> 2) Keep the same variant. Wrap everything in one big conditional dynament 
> and render the html for regular version if true or the mobile version if 
> false. This allows us to keep the same pages but it may make the code a bit 
> convoluted (not really an issue).
>
> Wanted to hear some input one way or the other. Or, alternatively, other 
> possible options that are viable.
>
> Thanks!
>

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