Re: RH 7.2 can't deal with 2 nic's.

2002-04-03 Thread Thierry ITTY

it looks like you'd apply the initscript update 

hth


A 02:11 04/04/02 +0200, vous avez écrit :
>Hi.
>I have problems with my redhat 7.2 and two nic's.
>In the beginning it went fine, but after a while the
>system could't resolve the new ip addresses I got from
>my isp.
>It is changing once a day. It seems like the daemon
>resolving dhcp didn't work.
>Anybody else having the same problems or is there
>anybody that have redhat 7.2 wth two NIC's that work??
>
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Re: imwheel Not working

2002-04-03 Thread Hal Burgiss

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 04:15:07PM +1000, George Abdo wrote:
> It's true I don't need it. I actually don't need a mouse at all!
> 
> But if it's there, and it make my use of the computer easier, then
> why not?

Because you are making it harder than it is. What he is saying is you
don't need imwheel in order to use the wheel function of the mouse. At
least I don't use imwheel and my wheel works fine. [Sorry I missed a
good chunk of this thread...]
 
> > Trond Eivind Glomsrød <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > George Abdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > I am having trouble getting imwheel to work.
> > 
> > Don't use it. You don't need it.

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Re: Re: imwheel Not working

2002-04-03 Thread George Abdo

It's true I don't need it. I actually don't need a mouse at all!

But if it's there, and it make my use of the computer easier, then why not?



> Trond Eivind Glomsrød <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> George Abdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I am having trouble getting imwheel to work.
> 
> Don't use it. You don't need it.
> 
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Connections to port 9818

2002-04-03 Thread Pieter De Wit



Hello Everyone,
 
I have noted some (quite a lot) of connection 
attemps to my server port 9818. I contacted one of the administrators of the 
source address and he said that the address is not in use. Someone is spoofing 
the address
 
I think there is a util. that will allow you to 
keep track of mac addresses and IPs and was just wondering if this will help. I 
could always ask my IAP to block the port at the upstream router, but I really 
would like to get to who this is. Any help would be nice !
 
Thanks,
 
Pieter De Wit


Re: Needs help to set up email server [It was: (no subject)]

2002-04-03 Thread Nitebirdz

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:57:44AM +0600, Joey Ng wrote:
> can u help how to setup domain e-mail on my redhat 7.2 server
> 
> thanks
> 
> Joey


Joey,


Can you be more specific, please?  Your question is way too broad for
people to be able to answer what you are looking for.  Are you trying to
set up _both_ the DNS records and Sendmail, or perhaps only Sendmail? 
I assume you already have a domain name, right?  

In any case, the Red Hat manual (which is available online) has some nice
information on how to set up all of this.  I'd recommend you take a look
at that documentation first.



Nitebirdz

Mozilla--> http://www.mozilla.org/
Linux XFS--> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/



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Re: problem with ftp server

2002-04-03 Thread Nitebirdz

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 01:22:31PM -0500, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> 
> I have linux redhat 7.1 Server with a ftp server in it . and I have a user
> usr1 and home dirctory /home/usr1 
> for usr1. usr1 tried to ftp a directory say mydir to /home/usr1. But
> after usr1 login into the server. he wanted to access mydir, he got error
> message " Permission denied". The dictory mydir ower is usr1 and group is
> usr1 too. And what confuse more is that although he can not access mydir,
> he can delete it.
> 
> What is the potential problem with the ftp sever and how can I fix it.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestion.
> 
> Jianping Zhu
> 


Did you check the permissions on the directory as well as the ownership?
Also, are you sure when he logs in he is being dropped at /home/usr1?  Did
you verify that with the 'pwd' command?



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GUI Firewall Monitor from IPTABLES

2002-04-03 Thread Brian


Does any know of a GUI firewall monitor, Watchdog is broken and
Fwlogview I am having problems nstalling it.



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(no subject)

2002-04-03 Thread Joey Ng



can u help how to 
setup domain e-mail on my redhat 7.2 server
 
thanks
 
Joey


Re: Printer interface

2002-04-03 Thread Edward Dekkers

> Can't say for your printer, but according to the tests I've read, my HP
1200
> LaserJet is something like 20% slower when driven through USB port than
when
> driven through the parallel port.  Don't know why; may be an aberration.

That's interesting. I haven't tried USB on Linux yet, but all my
USB/Parallel printers run about 20% FASTER in the other OS using USB.

Just curious, as I was intending to set up some new USB printers on Linux
servers I have at customers - does anyone else have data which shows USB
interface to run SLOWER than parallel on Linux?

Regards,
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Re: problems with logrotation, I think

2002-04-03 Thread Bill Crawford

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Bryan K. Walton wrote:

> I have a box running Red Hat 6.2.  I have a problem with the log
> rotation on this box.  Well, I think the problem is with the log
> rotation.  Here is what I know:
> 
> 1) the date and time on the computer are correct
> 2) logs are logging to the fourth week of logs, rather than the first
> week of logs.  The easiest way to explain what I am talking about is to
> show you a snapshot of my /var/log directory:
> 
> [bryanw@linux1 log]$ ls -la
> total 3240
> drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Apr  3 08:43 .
> drwxr-xr-x   18 root root 4096 Apr 30  2001 ..
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 31 05:23 boot.log
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 24 05:15 boot.log.1
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 17 06:48 boot.log.2
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 10 06:17 boot.log.3
> -rw-r--r--1 root root 8607 Apr  2 14:10 boot.log.4

 Looks like the processes logging to these files are not being HUPped
when the logs are rotated.  Try doing a service $foo reload or restart
for each service.  No idea why that should have stopped working though
unless something's wrong with logrotate itself.  Try verifying the
logrotate package (with rpm -V)?




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Re: Printer interface

2002-04-03 Thread Cokey de Percin

Michael George wrote:
> 
> I have a printer (Brother 1250) which has both a parallel and USB interface on
> the back of it.  I currently have it connected to my RHL 7.2 box through the
> parallel part, but I'm wondering if there would be any advantage to connecting
> through the USB connector.  I'm guessing not but I thought I'd ask anyway.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Michael
> 
> --
> In light of the terrorist attack on the U.S.:
> They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Can't say for your printer, but according to the tests I've read, my HP 1200 
LaserJet is something like 20% slower when driven through USB port than when 
driven through the parallel port.  Don't know why; may be an aberration.

Best

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Printer interface

2002-04-03 Thread Michael George

I have a printer (Brother 1250) which has both a parallel and USB interface on
the back of it.  I currently have it connected to my RHL 7.2 box through the
parallel part, but I'm wondering if there would be any advantage to connecting
through the USB connector.  I'm guessing not but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks!

-Michael

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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RH 7.2 can't deal with 2 nic's.

2002-04-03 Thread Kjetil Tjensvold

Hi.
I have problems with my redhat 7.2 and two nic's.
In the beginning it went fine, but after a while the
system could't resolve the new ip addresses I got from
my isp.
It is changing once a day. It seems like the daemon
resolving dhcp didn't work.
Anybody else having the same problems or is there
anybody that have redhat 7.2 wth two NIC's that work??

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problems with logrotation, I think

2002-04-03 Thread Bryan K. Walton

I have a box running Red Hat 6.2.  I have a problem with the log
rotation on this box.  Well, I think the problem is with the log
rotation.  Here is what I know:

1) the date and time on the computer are correct
2) logs are logging to the fourth week of logs, rather than the first
week of logs.  The easiest way to explain what I am talking about is to
show you a snapshot of my /var/log directory:

[bryanw@linux1 log]$ ls -la
total 3240
drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Apr  3 08:43 .
drwxr-xr-x   18 root root 4096 Apr 30  2001 ..
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 31 05:23 boot.log
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 24 05:15 boot.log.1
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 17 06:48 boot.log.2
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 10 06:17 boot.log.3
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8607 Apr  2 14:10 boot.log.4


As you can see, everything is logging to boot.log.4 (in this example).
Furthermore, boot.log.4 goes back to March 8.  So, it looks like things
have been messed up for almost a month.  Also, this example also applies
to /var/log/maillog, /var/log/messages, /var/log/secure,
/var/log/spooler, and /var/log/xferlog.  I have also included my
/etc/syslog.conf and /etc/logrotate.conf files.  Any help would be most
appreciated.

Thanks,
Bryan

/ETC/SYSLOG.CONF
--

# Log all kernel messages to the console.
# Logging much else clutters up the screen.
#kern.* /dev/console

# Log anything (except mail) of level info or higher.
# Don't log private authentication messages!
*.info;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none
/var/log/messages

# The authpriv file has restricted access.
authpriv.*  /var/log/secure

# Log all the mail messages in one place.
mail.*  /var/log/maillog

# Everybody gets emergency messages, plus log them on another
# machine.
*.emerg *

# Save mail and news errors of level err and higher in a
# special file.
#uucp,news.crit /var/log/spooler

# Save boot messages also to boot.log
local7.*
/var/log/boot.log

# Save ldap logs to separate file
local4.*
/var/log/slapd.log

#
# INN
#
#news.=crit
/var/log/news/news.crit
#news.=err
/var/log/news/news.err
#news.notice
/var/log/news/news.notice

---

/ETC/LOGROTATE.CONF


# see "man logrotate" for details
# rotate log files weekly
weekly

# keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
rotate 4

# send errors to root
errors root

# create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
create

# uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
#compress

# RPM packages drop log rotation information into this directory
include /etc/logrotate.d

# no packages own lastlog or wtmp -- we'll rotate them here
/var/log/wtmp {
monthly
create 0664 root utmp
rotate 1
}

# system-specific logs may be configured here

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RE: RAID

2002-04-03 Thread Andrew Judge

There was an article in sysadmin magazine.  It is a little tricky after
install, but can be done easily after the first successful attempt.  Take a
look at the sysadmin site to get an idea of how to do it, but there are a
few steps that are missing that you should be able to figure out.

Best regards,

Andy Judge

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Subject: RAID


I have one IDE harddisk running RedHat 7.1, I would like to add  a second HD
to mirror the first one. Is there any documentation to help the setup?

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Re: fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:00:38PM -0800, Zhi-Wei Lu wrote:
>
> I am using a default redhat entry for fam

What do /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny contain?

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Re: fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Eric Wood

I'm on the xinetd mailing list and this sounds real familiar with rpc
service that "wait".  Grab the latest xinetd package off of skipjack or
rawhide.

I'm running skipjack so my didn't error like yours did.  I don't run RH 7.2
any more.

-eric

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From: "Zhi-Wei Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   But if I start fam using xinetd,
> However, when I do a tcpdump/ethereal on the packet, it clearly says that
> packets are from 127.0.0.1 rather than 0.0.0.0.  Does libwrap has a bug or
not?




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Re: fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Zhi-Wei Lu

I am using a default redhat entry for fam

# default: on
# description: FAM is a file monitoring daemon. It can \
# be used to get reports when files change.
service sgi_fam
{
type = RPC UNLISTED
socket_type  = stream
user = root
group= nobody
server   = /usr/bin/fam
wait = yes
protocol = tcp
rpc_version  = 2
rpc_number   = 391002
bind = 127.0.0.1
}


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Re: fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Eric Wood

- Original Message -
From: "Zhi-Wei Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fam will stay up.  But if I start fam using xinetd,
>
> telnet localhost fam_port
>
> xinetd (libwrap) will kill fam as seen from the kernel log file in
> my previous message.
>
> Apr  3 09:18:30 dorothy xinetd[23766]: libwrap refused connection to
sgi_fam from 0.0.0.0
>
>
> However, when I do a tcpdump/ethereal on the packet, it clearly says that
> packets are from 127.0.0.1 rather than 0.0.0.0.  Does libwrap has a bug or
not?

What's your xinetd's sgi_fam config file look like. I'll see if I can
duplicate the problem.
-eric




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Re: fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Zhi-Wei Lu

If I do a 
fam -d -T0

and 
telnet localhost fam_port

fam will stay up.  But if I start fam using xinetd, 

telnet localhost fam_port

xinetd (libwrap) will kill fam as seen from the kernel log file in
my previous message.  

Apr  3 09:18:30 dorothy xinetd[23766]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
0.0.0.0


However, when I do a tcpdump/ethereal on the packet, it clearly says that 
packets are from 127.0.0.1 rather than 0.0.0.0.  Does libwrap has a bug or not?
-- 
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Re: fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Eric Wood

Try running "# fam -d" from a virtual console, and start X.  Maybe the log
will show you what's happening.

-eric wood

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: fam keeps dying


> Hi,
>
> I have noticed recently that sgi_fam services die on most of our
> 2+ dozen linux 7.2 systems, all of which have been patched
> quite update to date except for the kernel I am running
> 2.4.9-21 (rather than 2.4.9-31).




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fam keeps dying

2002-04-03 Thread Zhi-Wei Lu

Hi,

I have noticed recently that sgi_fam services die on most of our
2+ dozen linux 7.2 systems, all of which have been patched 
quite update to date except for the kernel I am running
2.4.9-21 (rather than 2.4.9-31).

After I restart xinetd to restart sgi_fam, when I login into
the graphics console, sgi_fam dies, the /var/log/message shows

Apr  3 09:18:30 dorothy xinetd[23766]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Apr  3 09:18:30 dorothy xinetd[23766]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
0.0.0.0

(9 more times of the above messages.)
Apr  3 09:18:30 dorothy xinetd[1081]: sgi_fam service was deactivated because of 
looping

sgi_fam also dies with the above messages if I do a

telnet localhost fam_port_as_reported_by_rpcinfo_-p


On the other hand, on my laptop running an SGI modified XFS-enabled 2.4.14 kernel with 
stock 7.2 Redhat packages, sgi_fam stays up.

Does anyone else experience similar problem?  It might be a kernel related 
problem.  Thank you for your help.


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RAID

2002-04-03 Thread Albert Leung



I have one IDE harddisk running RedHat 7.1, I would 
like to add  a second HD to mirror the first one. Is there any 
documentation to help the setup?
 
Albert


RH 6.2 and/or 7.2 with HP NetRAID 1m card

2002-04-03 Thread Eric Sisler

Is anyone running RH 6.2 or 7.2 with an HP NetRAID 1m hardware RAID 
card?  I'm thinking of putting one in an older server but the RH HCL 
doesn't list the card and I can't tell from HP's website if it'll work or 
not either.

Thanks!

-Eric


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Re: IPTABLES newbie question: logging destination

2002-04-03 Thread Francisco Neira



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Mike Burger wrote:

>Take a look at your /var/log/messages file...you'll probably find that 
>they're already being logged there.

And man dmesg for getting them off the console.  


Aha! That was the detail I missed: dmesg -n1

Thanks Mike, David and R.

Regards,


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Re: IPTABLES newbie question: logging destination

2002-04-03 Thread Rénald CASAGRAUDE

On mercredi, avril 3, 2002, at 05:32 , Francisco Neira wrote:

> Hi all

Hi !

> How can I change the destination of the logs emitted by iptables?
> I want to keep them in /log/messages instead of being displayed on the 
> console.

Which log ?? (1)LOG emited when packet matching rule or (2)message 
emited by
iptables when modules are loaded ??

> Already read TFM (aka man page) :-))

if (1) ... You have to read more ! See syslogd(8) and syslog.conf(5).
If you're curious check klogd(8)

Good luck !

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how to connect to internet using external router

2002-04-03 Thread open source devel company

Hi

I had connected sucessfully to DSL from linux using
alcatel modem

perfect !

The DSL provider provides me a router with ip address

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

and a local IP address also is provided for me

xxx.xxx.xxx.lll

Now


how do I configure my linux box to connect to the
internet using an EXTERNAL ROUTER 

please help ?

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Re: IPTABLES newbie question: logging destination

2002-04-03 Thread David Talkington

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Mike Burger wrote:

>Take a look at your /var/log/messages file...you'll probably find that 
>they're already being logged there.

And man dmesg for getting them off the console.  

Cheers -d



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Re: imwheel Not working

2002-04-03 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

George Abdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am having trouble getting imwheel to work.

Don't use it. You don't need it.

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Re: up2date failed dependencies

2002-04-03 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

System Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am running up2date here on a 7.1 distro.  And it keeps telling me :
> 
> Unresolvable chain of dependencies:
> perl-Perl-RPM  0.291-2  requires librpm.so.0  
> perl-Perl-RPM  0.291-2  requires librpmio.so.0
> 
> 'anyone know how to fix this, or should this upgrade be forced???

You need to not unselect the "rpm-perl" package from the available
list. It obsoletes the above rpm.

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Re: IPTABLES newbie question: logging destination

2002-04-03 Thread Mike Burger

Take a look at your /var/log/messages file...you'll probably find that 
they're already being logged there.

Mine are.

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Francisco Neira wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> How can I change the destination of the logs emitted by iptables?
> I want to keep them in /log/messages instead of being displayed on the console.
> 
> Already read TFM (aka man page) :-))
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
> Francisco
> 
> 
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IPTABLES newbie question: logging destination

2002-04-03 Thread Francisco Neira

Hi all

How can I change the destination of the logs emitted by iptables?
I want to keep them in /log/messages instead of being displayed on the console.

Already read TFM (aka man page) :-))

Thanks in advance


Francisco




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Re: Linus Torvald Explained!!!

2002-04-03 Thread Manuel Camacho

Dear Neo:

On April 1st, also known in North America as "April's Fools Day", 
inhabitants of this region play all kind of jokes. I bet this is one of 
such. I just hope you can get some fun out of it (although the sense of 
humor changes from one place to another).

Best wishes,

-Manuel.


-Original Message-
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:43:35 +0200
Subject: Linus Torvald Explained!!!

> Linux needs new leadership.
> 
> Fellow hackers,
> For some time I have felt unappreciated by some members of the Linux
> community. Far too many of you like to whine and cry, saying "My
> patches
> aren't being accepted by Linus, but they are by Alan or Michael!"
> It seems that some of you are too stupid to follow the simple
> instructions that I have made clear on more than one occasion.
> This, combined with the fact that today is my last day at Transmeta,
> has prompted me to consider rediscovering that balance I had in my life
> before you all took my hobby and made it into a mass movement. I have
> not decided who should take over maintenance of the kernel myself, for
> I
> believe that this decision should be made in a quasi-democratic
> fashion. While democracy has not worked well with this group of people
> before, I am willing to give it one last chance.
> However, I do have some opinions on who should succeed me as leader
> of kernel development. I will provide my opinions below as I am
> entitled to do so. Below is an alphabetical list of my nominations.
> I include a brief explanation of why I nominated them and any concerns
> I may have. You all should do the same for your nominations.
> Read on at:
> 
> http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html
> 
> Ciau!!
> 
> Neo
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Great IPTABLES website OR HTML again!

2002-04-03 Thread Gerry Doris

> Brian writes:
>> http://www.linuxguruz.org/iptables/
>> > xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
>> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";>

LOTS of stuff snipped...

> This whole HTML stuff doesn't provide any new information.
> It expands the message body size from 35 bytes to 3061 bytes.
> Please stop using HTML in email, at least when sending to a mailing
> list.
>
> Regards
>
> Walter Müller

Also, my version of SpamAssassin happily gives a whopping 4.0 points (out
of a default of 5.0) for most HTML messages.  Those are summarily dumped
in /dev/null.  I know many others routinely delete HTML list mail.

Those who read the digest versions of the lists only see the raw HTML.
Besides being unreadable it grossly increases the size of the digests.

Bottomline...if you want your message to be read by the most number of
people then it's best to stick to straight text.

Gerry

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Re: Linus Torvald Explained!!!

2002-04-03 Thread ABrady

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:43:35 +0200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quietly intimated:

> Linux needs new leadership.



> http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html
> 
> Ciau!!
> 
> Neo

Alright. It's April 3 now, so the joke is already 2 days old!

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Linus Torvald Explained!!!

2002-04-03 Thread Neo

Linux needs new leadership.

Fellow hackers,
For some time I have felt unappreciated by some members of the Linux
community. Far too many of you like to whine and cry, saying "My patches
aren't being accepted by Linus, but they are by Alan or Michael!"
It seems that some of you are too stupid to follow the simple
instructions that I have made clear on more than one occasion.
This, combined with the fact that today is my last day at Transmeta,
has prompted me to consider rediscovering that balance I had in my life
before you all took my hobby and made it into a mass movement. I have
not decided who should take over maintenance of the kernel myself, for I
believe that this decision should be made in a quasi-democratic
fashion. While democracy has not worked well with this group of people
before, I am willing to give it one last chance.
However, I do have some opinions on who should succeed me as leader
of kernel development. I will provide my opinions below as I am
entitled to do so. Below is an alphabetical list of my nominations.
I include a brief explanation of why I nominated them and any concerns
I may have. You all should do the same for your nominations.
Read on at:

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html

Ciau!!

Neo



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