Re: FOR ALPHABYTE ---> was: Re: Can anyone help to get me off this list
Thanks mate. Alan On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Chuck Mead wrote regarding "FOR ALPHABYTE ---> was: Re: Can anyone help to get me off this list": > On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, AlphaByte spewed into the bitstream: > > A>Heres the deal, I have tried to unsubscribe using the normal > A>methods via email. But I get errors coming back each > A>time. I have gone to https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > A>but each time I get refused entry, apparently I am not > A>recognised. I have logged in to Redhat with my user name > A>and password and still the URL won't work. > A> > A>I have been to moongroup but the redhat list isn't even > A>listed there. > > All MoonGroup does is keep archives and make them searchable... MoonGroup > has no relation with the Red Hat list beyond that. > > The archive location is: > > http://www.moongroup.com/old/redhat.php > > and you can find all of our archives by following the link off the home > page that says: "old site/archives". > > You should have received your password by now (I used your email addresss > to force mailman to mail you your password). With this you can get off the > list. Here's how: > > Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The email should say this in the first line of the body (Disclaimer: if > that doesn't work try again with this content in the subject line! I am > uncertain which way is correct so I always do both.): > > unsubscribe yourpassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Note: use the password the list serve emailed you right here! > > What follows are the instructions received by sending the help command to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * help > Help for Redhat-list mailing list: > > This is email command help for version 2.0beta4 of the "Mailman" list > manager. The following describes commands you can send to get > information about and control your subscription to Mailman lists at > this site. A command can be in the subject line or in the body of the > message. > > Note that much of the following can also be accomplished via the World > Wide Web, at: > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > In particular, you can use the Web site to have your password sent to > your delivery address. > > List specific commands (subscribe, who, etc) should be sent to the > *-request address for the particular list, e.g. for the 'mailman' > list, use 'mailman-request@...'. > > About the descriptions - words in "<>"s signify REQUIRED items and > words in "[]" denote OPTIONAL items. Do not include the "<>"s or > "[]"s when you use the commands. > > The following commands are valid: > > subscribe [password] [digest-option] [address=] > Subscribe to the mailing list. Your password must be given to > unsubscribe or change your options. When you subscribe to the > list, you'll be reminded of your password periodically. > 'digest-option' may be either: 'nodigest' or 'digest' (no > quotes!) If you wish to subscribe an address other than the > address you send this request from, you may specify > "address=" (no brackets around the email > address, no quotes!) > > unsubscribe [address] > Unsubscribe from the mailing list. Your password must match > the one you gave when you subscribed. If you are trying to > unsubscribe from a different address than the one you > subscribed from, you may specify it in the 'address' field. > > who > See everyone who is on this mailing list. > > info > View the introductory information for this list. > > lists > See what mailing lists are run by this Mailman server. > > help > This message. > > set > Turn on or off list options. Valid options are: > > ack: > Turn this on to receive acknowledgement mail when you send > mail to the list. > > digest: > Receive mail from the list bundled together instead of one > post at a time. > > plain: > Get plain-text, not MIME-compliant, digests (only if > digest is set) > > nomail: > Stop delivering mail. Useful if you plan on taking a > short vacation. > > norcv: > Turn this on to NOT receive posts you send to the list. > Does not work if d
Re: Can anyone help to get me off this list
Yeah this whole system is pretty screwed. Is this RedHats answer to getting a captive audience? Before anyone suggests filtering my mail, why should I have to? You would think that one of the largest Linux distributors could get something like a mail list going -- but then again you would also think that any organisation these days would be bothered with answering e-mails, even Adobe do! Alan On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Ray wrote regarding "Re: Can anyone help to get me off this list": > I tried to unsubscribe and it woked OK on the web page > BUT > still getting the emails > > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 24/09/2000 at 12:19 AM AlphaByte wrote: > > >Heres the deal, I have tried to unsubscribe using the normal > >methods via email. But I get errors coming back each > >time. I have gone to https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > >but each time I get refused entry, apparently I am not > >recognised. I have logged in to Redhat with my user name > >and password and still the URL won't work. > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT: Another Linux - but the price stinks!
Ahemm, I think you ought to read it again ;0) Alan On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Julian Thomas wrote regarding "OT: Another Linux - but the price stinks!": > http://www.mslinux.org > -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Can anyone help to get me off this list
Heres the deal, I have tried to unsubscribe using the normal methods via email. But I get errors coming back each time. I have gone to https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list but each time I get refused entry, apparently I am not recognised. I have logged in to Redhat with my user name and password and still the URL won't work. I have been to moongroup but the redhat list isn't even listed there. I have been trying to get off this damned mailing list for two weeks now, without success :0( I have even tried emailing RedHat support for help, and got none -- of course (no replies even). Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [Re: Staroffice installation]
In 5.1 you would install the application for a user by logging in as that user and from $HOME type the location you installed the StarOffice installation files $OFFICE51/install ./net That then installs some necessary files for the user, but gives access to the application as a networked environment. You shouldnt have to muck about with changing ownerships because that will cause you problems later if you start using StarBase (from my own experience anyway). Alan On Wed, 01 Oct 2036, George Georgiev wrote regarding "Re: [Re: Staroffice installation]": > Thanks Anthony, > > However there is one more problem, i have installed staroffice using the root > account in /install/staroffice folder, and have created a link from KDE in the > personal panel. However the thing is that when i go under my user account in > Gnome, i for some reason cannot see the /install folder, or sometimes it shows > it empty... so i can't access the staroffice file :( > Please, give me some more guidance on how can i change that. > > Thanks !!! > > > > "Anthony E . Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24 Aug 2000 08:33 George Georgiev wrote: > >I installed Staroffice 5.2 under my root account in KDE. However, when i > went > >to my user account (under Gnome) i couldn't find a way to create a shortcut > or > >whatever to Staroffice, i couldn't even find it. Can you please help me > with > >this, and tell me do i have to install Staroffice under Gnome to have it or > i > >can just transfer somehow my installation from KDE. > > I've done this in 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2. Run the install as root > (so.whatever.bin /net) and put it in a central location (I use > /opt/staroffice). Then when a > user starts the program (/path/install_dir/program/soffice) it will run the > install script if necessary. The user should do a workstation install, which > requires less than 5MB diskspace. > > I usually do two other things as root: > > 1. Create a script in /usr/local/bin that has a single command: > >/opt/staroffice/program/soffice "$1" > > That way the 'soffice' command is in a normal user's path. > > 2. Add a menu item to the Applications menu in GNOME that calls > StarOffice. > > -- > Anthony E. Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/> > PGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D > Linux. The choice of a GNU Generation. <http://www.linux.org/> > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > ____ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Hotmail Style Software
Try Twig. Its PHP3 and works OK with POP3. Alan On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Michael A. Johnson-Bio Sci Comp Svcs wrote regarding "Re: Hotmail Style Software": > You can also try Endymion Mailman (http://www.endymion.com).It just operates > as a perl script and can have the interface totally customized. With just > one little edit (comment out 1 line), it even becomes SSL compatible. > > on 8/24/00 3:00 PM, Gustav Schaffter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Scott, > > > > Give a look at http://www.mail2web.com > > > > Regards > > Gustav > > > > Scott Skrogstad wrote: > >> > >> I am running 6.1 with about 3,000 users. Most of my users are local and > >> retrieve their mail via pop3. But there has been a growing number of > >> users who travel or who would like access to their mail via their browser. > >> Anyone using this type of software? > >> > >> Scott Skrogstad > >> Computer Integration Inc, > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> 800-522-3475 Phone > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Looking for a CASE Tool
I am looking for a CASE tool that can handle the Gane and Sarson, Yourdon/DeMarco and SSADM methodologies for a paper I am currently doing. I dont want to have to spend megabucks on this and am willing to look at a diagramming tool that will at least give me the symbols. I have Dia and like it, I just dont know how to add more symbols to it. It doesnt have those sets in it. Anyone got any clues about whether there are any *decent* Linux based CASE tools about? I have looked at several but they tend to be very vendor specific and expensive -- meaning that they only offer methodologies that relate directly to what that vendor wants to produce. I am really looking at something that is more generic. I noticed that this has been discussed on Slashdot but there was not much resolution. I cant tell if it has been discussed on the RedHat lists because I dont know what my password is :-/ So please excuse me if this has been mentioned before (I dont remember it though). Ta Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
To elvis at graceland.com: Fwd: Re:toutdoux crashes on start
Couldnt get a handle on your handle, it kept coming back so
I'm posting it here in the hope you will find it.
Alan
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: Re:toutdoux crashes on start
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:17:44 +1200
From: AlphaByte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thank you for your reply
The bug report produced by BugBuddy follows, any
help would be appreciated.
Below is the backtrace ouput you wanted:
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/toutdoux
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x403e5bc0 in g_printf_string_upper_bound () at gstrfuncs.c:929
929 gstrfuncs.c: No such file or directory.
(gdb) backtrace
#0 0x403e5bc0 in g_printf_string_upper_bound () at gstrfuncs.c:929
#1 0x403e58bf in g_strdup_vprintf () at gstrfuncs.c:929
#2 0x403e58fd in g_strdup_printf () at gstrfuncs.c:929
#3 0x8053dd7 in lecture_config_fichier_recents (user_data=0x0) at file.c:270
#4 0x804d077 in create_principale_fen (user_data=0x0) at tree.c:156
#5 0x804c258 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbba4) at main.c:112
BugBuddy print:
X-Mailer: bug-buddy 1.0
Package: general
Severity: normal
Version: 1.1.9
Synopsis: toutdoux crashes
Class:sw-bug
Distribution: Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman)
System: Linux 2.2.12-20 i686 unknown
C library: glibc-2.1.2-11
C compiler: egcs-2.91.66
glib: 1.2.8
GTK+: 1.2.8
ORBit: ORBit 0.5.1
gnome-libs: gnome-libs 1.2.1
libxml: 1.8.7
gnome-print: gnome-print-0.20-0_helix_1
gnome-core: gnome-core 1.2.1
Description:
type toutdoux into command line and it crashes
Debugging information:
0x404ea489 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0 0x404ea489 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x4054848c in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2 0x400820f1 in gnome_segv_handle (signum=11) at gnome-init.c:655
#3 0x40478408 in __restore ()
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/sigaction.c:127
#4 0x403e58bf in g_strdup_vprintf () at gstrfuncs.c:929
#5 0x403e58fd in g_strdup_printf () at gstrfuncs.c:929
#6 0x8053dd7 in lecture_config_fichier_recents (user_data=0x0) at file.c:270
#7 0x804d077 in create_principale_fen (user_data=0x0) at tree.c:156
#8 0x804c258 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbba4) at main.c:112
#0 0x404ea489 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
No locals.
#1 0x4054848c in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#2 0x400820f1 in gnome_segv_handle (signum=11) at gnome-init.c:655
estatus = 134907656
signum = -512
in_segv = 1
pid = 0
#3 0x40478408 in __restore ()
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/sigaction.c:127
No locals.
#4 0x403e58bf in g_strdup_vprintf () at gstrfuncs.c:929
No locals.
#5 0x403e58fd in g_strdup_printf () at gstrfuncs.c:929
929 in gstrfuncs.c
No locals.
#6 0x8053dd7 in lecture_config_fichier_recents (user_data=0x0) at file.c:270
i = 0
j = 0
fp = 0
fichier = (gchar *) 0x80b87e0 "\230#\n\b(\a"
chemin = (gchar *) 0xfe00
menu = (GnomeUIInfo *) 0x80b87e0
path = (gchar *) 0x4016f189 "\215eð[^_\211ì]Ã\215¶"
#7 0x804d077 in create_principale_fen (user_data=0x0) at tree.c:156
dock1 = (GtkWidget *) 0xfe00
vbox1 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b87e0
entry1 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b3ef0
scrolledwindow1 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b4660
label1 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b87e0
label2 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b87e0
label3 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b87e0
label4 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b87e0
label5 = (GtkWidget *) 0x80b87e0
barremenu_uiinfo = {{type = GNOME_APP_UI_SUBTREE, label = 0x80588e3 "Project",
hint = 0x0, moreinfo = 0x805c89c, user_data = 0x0, unused_data = 0x0,
pixmap_type = GNOME_APP_PIXMAP_NONE, pixmap_info = 0x0,
accelerator_key = 0, ac_mods = 0, widget = 0x80a1c48}, {
type = GNOME_APP_UI_SUBTREE, label = 0x80588dc "Action", hint = 0x0,
moreinfo = 0x805cb04, user_data = 0x0, unused_data = 0x0,
pixmap_type = GNOME_APP_PIXMAP_NONE, pixmap_info = 0x0,
accelerator_key = 0, ac_mods = 0, widget = 0x80a1cf0}, {
type = GNOME_APP_UI_SUBTREE, label = 0x80588d2 "Data base", hint = 0x0,
moreinfo = 0x805c558, user_data = 0x0, unused_data = 0x0,
pixmap_type = GNOME_APP_PIXMAP_NONE, pixmap_info = 0x0,
accelerator_key = 0, ac_mods = 0, widget = 0x80a1dec}, {
type = GNOME_APP_UI_SUBTREE, label = 0x80588cd "File", hint = 0x0,
moreinfo = 0x805c6e4, user_data = 0x0, unused_data = 0x0,
pixmap_type = GNOME_APP_PIXMAP_NONE, pixmap_info = 0x0,
accelerator_key = 0, ac_mods = 0, widget = 0x80a1e94}, {
type = GNOME_APP_UI_SUBTREE, label = 0x80588c8 "Help", hint = 0x0,
moreinfo = 0x805c844, user_data = 0x0, unused_data = 0x0,
pixmap_type = GNOME_APP_PIXMAP_NONE, pixmap_info = 0x0,
accelerator_key = 0, ac_mods = 0, widget = 0x80b157c}, {
type = GNOME_APP_UI_ENDOFINFO, label = 0x0, hint = 0x0, moreinfo = 0x0,
user_data = 0x0, unused_data = 0x0, pixmap_type = GNOME_APP_PIXMAP_NONE,
pixmap_info = 0x0, accelerator_key = 0, ac_mods = 0, widget = 0x80a1870}}
Alan
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, anonymous
Fwd: Error on checking POP3 server
Hi all, Please excuse this cross post but I have not received any responses from the Balsa list and hoped to find a larger group here. Help would be appreciated o I can get a good e-mail clientr up and running. Incidentally the client needs to handle multiple POP3 accounts. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Error on checking POP3 server Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:14:29 +1200 From: AlphaByte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I have just installed Balsa 0.8.1 on RedHat 6.1 and set up the [clients] correctly, I think. When I click on the Check button, or try to check the mail in any way I get the following error: Error: p P@p P@ol/mail/h @h :No such file or directory (Errno = 2) The application doesnt crash and I am getting two warnings for each POP account that it tries to check (there are multiple POP accounts set up). I installed the client from the $HOME/ directory in su. Help would be appreciated. Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Any comments? Fwd: [LAW] Security problem in RH 6.2
I havent seen any mention of this on the list, but it seems to be an important point. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1757740.html -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz CNET.com - News - Enterprise Computing - Red Hat glitch leaves Web servers wide open.url redhat.com Red Hat Support.url
Re: downloading web sites
Thanks Edward, I found another Java based application that seems to work pretty well on Linux. One problem I found with wget was that it did not like some directory formats, in particular those with slashes that go the Win way (/ cf \). And Vidiot was a little correct in that some files did not download because they seemed to be called by some kind of CGI script. However this application gets around all these issues and I don't have to bother anyone who uses Win to get it for me. It is called WEBsaver -- it does need a runtime installed, I use Blackdown. Incidentally if you have a preference for Win I did find a freeware app called SiteStripper. Seems to be fast and complete. Alan On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, you wrote regarding Re: downloading web sites: > Under Windoze there is a pretty good program called SiteSnagger from PC > Mag--it's free. I've snagged some pretty big sites with it. > I should add that it has an option to download multimedia and then fix the > links and indexes it so it will work on an independent environment. -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: downloading web sites
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, brian davison wrote regarding Re: downloading web sites: > Mosaic had a function to do what you are suggesting. I saw an rpm for > mosaic o one of the sites... haven't tried it on linux yet tho. > brian ;) > *** Actually I have an old old PC with Win3.11 on it that has Mosaic, I'll have a look. But, do they still make Mosaic?? ;-) Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: downloading web sites
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Vidiot wrote regarding Re: downloading web sites: > >On the contrary, at this time most sites are HTML based and not XML. The ones I > >am interested in not likely to be the kind of dynamically driven sites you are > >referring to, and anyway if that is the case I have another method of > >extracting that info (which is unfortunately not available on my Linux box and > >so I am using a friend who uses Windows) -- I just want this because it is > >preferrable to that other method. > >Alan > > I wasn't talking about XML. I'm talking about CGI programs that build the HTML > on the fly. > > I don't know what site you are after, so I do not know how complicated the > HTML code is for the site. > > If you were to try traversing my site and downloading it, it would take > approximately 5 GB of space. I wonder what other sites are like that are > corporate sites. > > Good luck. You are going to need it. > Umm, thanks. Well yes I admit that these are an issue. But then I am not going to do all my browsing in this way -- it is just to gather available material that can be read off-line. Other material can be printed as pdf's using Acrobat, but it is better to have the original stuff, I think. Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: downloading web sites
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Vidiot wrote regarding Re: downloading web sites: > > There are no man pages for wget, only info pages, which I hate. The interface > to traverse info pages is not intuitive. It is easy to get lost, hard to get > back to where you were, etc. > Oh yes there are. I read'em. And they were very helpful in the outset. > Who thought up that weird interface anyway? > > Oh great, I just tried "info wget" and even that doesn't work. The wget > info pages are installed in /usr/local/info and info won't find it. I > probably need an environment variable to make info wrap in stuff from there, > but even that won't help the weird (a polite word for what I think of the > interface) info command set. > > I'll print a manual before I try getting lost with info. > -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: downloading web sites
Peter and Mike, Thanks guys, looks like what I am looking for. Alan On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, you wrote regarding Re: downloading web sites: > wget > > read the man page so you don't accidentally try to copy the > entire web to your harddrive. :-) > > I believe wget will do what you are looking for. I've only used it a time > or two, I'm sure someone else on the list can help you more than me. Or of > course check the man pages > -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: downloading web sites
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, you wrote regarding Re: downloading web sites: > > You have to be joking. A properly written website will cause all kinds of > trouble trying to view offline. Let's see, for starters you won't have any > of the images. Even if you did download all of them, it still might not work > as the pages may be written to access the web site with absolute links, vs. > relative links. Then there is the problem is dynamically built web sites. > Well, I think you just answered my question -- below :-) > You might be able to get away with it downloading my web site, because I > have it built for speed, minimal graphics so that the user can get what they > are after quickly. There are many others that I have visited that will not > work very well at all offline. > > I shudder at the thought of attempting to do what you are wanting to do. > On the contrary, at this time most sites are HTML based and not XML. The ones I am interested in not likely to be the kind of dynamically driven sites you are referring to, and anyway if that is the case I have another method of extracting that info (which is unfortunately not available on my Linux box and so I am using a friend who uses Windows) -- I just want this because it is preferrable to that other method. Cheers Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
downloading web sites
I have a need, for the purposes of research I am engaged in at the moment, to download the contents of some large web sites that I can then read on my laptop away from the online connection. Can anyone recommend a utility that will serve this function. I am using RH61 and Gnome. It would be ideal if there was a utiltity already in Gnome that did this. I have tried installing Internet Search Agent from Renegade Software but I can't get it to run for some reason. Ta Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Idea's and a few resources (RE: Terminals, like in the 'good old days''. ;-))
, and others are even trying microwave to avoid their restrictive pricing regimes -- the high court just stopped the telco from closing one small ISP's phone links because they dared to go through an alternative supplier). > But for me the magic number for cost is about $300.00 bucks per station. > I would pay this for a setup similar to the I-opener. Ideally it would > have: Small footprint, 10/100 Lan connectivity and ability to use ppp > with included display ( like the I-openers display ), Linux for the OS. > I would say that $300 is OK for the terminal, but it needs to have a decent monitor and there you are talking about $1000 plus. 19 inches are only adequate. New LCD displays I have seen from Taiwan come with some very impressive resolutions and bit depth. -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Terminals, like in the 'good old days''. ;-)
Corel had a Linux terminal setup called Sidewinder. Each terminal has a box connected over a LAN to a minicomputer running Linux. The company was spun off and called Corel Computer. They are now called Rebel.com at http://www.rebel.com and the product is now called Netwinder. Alan On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, Gustav Schaffter wrote regarding Terminals, like in the 'good old days''. ;-): > Hi, > > I'm socializing with this idea of mine... > > Long time ago, I worked with mainframes only. Then with what we called > 'mini-computers'. What was different was (among a few other things :) > that you didn't have a *Personal* Computer on your desk. You shared the > computer with other users. -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: OT: StarOffice Rant
If you want to be able to use the e-mail and web browsing capabilties in SO you need a Java runtime, in fact theres a whole lot it will do with Java. But I agree, if you are going to have application that uses Java so much , isn't it about time that Sun, the people who are supposed to own the dang thangs, built a runtime into their own product?? Alan On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: OT: StarOffice Rant: > > I can appreciate what you're saying (I remember earlier version of > StarOffice and the difficult associate with installing them :-) but in > contrast to your experience I had no trouble at all (though it is a > resource hog) with the new version. I only use it when some dang moron > sends me a doc that came from a M$ app. Other than that I don't have > much use for it, but with it, I don't need M$ at all, for anything. I > don't have the jdk installed either so I don't know what that's about. > -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Squid weirdness
Yeah I know what you mean. I found this problem after having a related problem with a client's FileMaker Pro database on the web -- which uses an IANA registered port number of 591 -- it kept refusing access to users on the other side of Squid proxies, and in particular Squids that had been upgraded recently. The problem is that the new version specifies which ports *will* have access, rather than specifying which ones won't, and the list includes only things like FTP, Telnet, Gopher, etc. and then anything from 1035 to 65-thousand-and-something (can't remember what). Now that means that if someone is using a port number below 1035 and that has not been specified in it's config then you will get access denial reports on your log. It also means that Squid will take longer to resolve these because it is having to check'em all. There's not much you can do about it rather than sending a message to the Squid requests, like I did, to include more port numbers that are registered with IANA. You will also be getting users on the receiving end of these warnings/errors who will be frustrated and will probably blame you. They will be trying to access databases and things, perhaps using CGI's or even SSL's, but Squid won't let'em past (which is a real bummer of a way to end your on-line shopping spree ;-) Alan On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Juha Saarinen wrote regarding Squid weirdness: > Trying to figure out why Web browsing was slower going through Squid rather > than directly to the 'Net, I looked in cache.log and found lots of these > messages: > > 2000/03/21 22:54:48| comm_udp_sendto: FD 1, 255.255.255.255, port 53: (13) > Permission denied > 2000/03/21 22:54:48| idnsSendQuery: FD 1: sendto: (13) Permission denied > > I've grepped for both comm_udp_sendto and idnsSendQuery on my system, but > apart from Squid's cache.log and the Squid binary, there's no mention of > these anywhere else. > > Anybody seen this before? > > Regards, > > -- Juha > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" > as the Subject. -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining
Thats alright, we have begun to expect that from Ostrarlia. Guess its 'cos we've still got thte Americas Cup and its the only way Ostrarlia can get it ;-) Alan On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, you wrote regarding Re: Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining: > Thanks for pointing out my blunder. A NZ-specific announcement will > follow. > > > AlphaByte wrote: > > > > Sounds good, but... > > > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote regarding Announcement: Red Hat Certified > > Engineer trainining: > Red Hat -- the market leader in Linux and open source > > software, services > and information -- is pleased to announce the next series > > of > Red Hat Certified Engineer (tm) courses in Australia. > > > > > Snipped > > > > Auckland is NOT in Australia, nor is *Aukland* > > > > > > 27 March, Sydney & Perth > > > 3 April, Melbourne & Aukland > > > 10 April, Brisband & Adelaide > > > 1 May,Canberra & Melbourne > > > 8 May,Sydney & Wellington > > > 15 May, Brisbane & Aukland > > > 22 May, Canberra & Adelaide > > > 29 May, Sydney, Melbourne & Perth > > > > > > > -- > > *** > > AlphaByte > > PO Box 1941 > > Auckland > > New Zealand > > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > ___ > > Specialising in: > > Graphic Design, Education and Training, > > Technical Documentation, Consulting. > > *** > > -- > Richard Keech [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Trainer and consultant > Red Hat Asia-Pacific, Australia. > mobile +61 419 036 463, office +61 7 3257 4811 -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
RE: Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining
Umm. Sorry, didn't see *Awkland* in the misspelling ;-) On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Ward William E PHDN wrote regarding RE: Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining: > If neither Auckland nor Aukland are in Australia, then is Awkland there? :) > > Bill Ward > > -Original Message----- > From: AlphaByte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 5:26 AM > To: Richard Keech; Redhat Mailing List > Cc: recipient.list.not.shown; @nswcphdn.navy.mil > Subject: Re: Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining > > > Sounds good, but... > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote regarding Announcement: Red Hat Certified > Engineer trainining: > Red Hat -- the market leader in Linux and open source > software, services > and information -- is pleased to announce the next > series > of > Red Hat Certified Engineer (tm) courses in Australia. > > > Snipped > > Auckland is NOT in Australia, nor is *Aukland* > > > > 27 March, Sydney & Perth > > 3 April,Melbourne & Aukland > > 10 April, Brisband & Adelaide > > 1 May, Canberra & Melbourne > > 8 May, Sydney & Wellington > > 15 May, Brisbane & Aukland > > 22 May, Canberra & Adelaide > > 29 May, Sydney, Melbourne & Perth > > > -- > To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" > as the Subject. -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining
Sounds good, but... On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote regarding Announcement: Red Hat Certified Engineer trainining: > Red Hat -- the market leader in Linux and open source software, services > and information -- is pleased to announce the next series of > Red Hat Certified Engineer (tm) courses in Australia. > Snipped Auckland is NOT in Australia, nor is *Aukland* > > 27 March, Sydney & Perth > 3 April, Melbourne & Aukland > 10 April, Brisband & Adelaide > 1 May,Canberra & Melbourne > 8 May,Sydney & Wellington > 15 May, Brisbane & Aukland > 22 May, Canberra & Adelaide > 29 May, Sydney, Melbourne & Perth > -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Windowmaker Problem
I would suggest that if you run the application from a console you will get a constant stream of output messages, until it crashes then the stream will stop. At this point you will see what commands were called that caused it to crash. >From there you will see what may need to done/fixed in order to make the application work. Alan On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Dave Watts wrote regarding Windowmaker Problem: > I've recently installedthe Windowmaker RPMs on to my system (RH6.2) > and when I start that window manager I get the following error message: > "The application menu could not be loaded. Look at the console output > for a detailed description of the error." > > I don't know what this means, I I'm not sure what is meant by console > output. > -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
OT: was the Netscape rant
Just another spoonful of rant. RH Linux users are not the only ones who are not happy. And not only because of Netscapes instability -- most of the world does not use AOL and are never likely to, but all Netscape users are forced to endure installation of AOL Instant Messaging and all the rest of the crap that is really totally unnecessary in a browser and should be treated as plug-ins. So, Redhat if you are listening, we need an alternative. And for some editorial comment, check this out. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2458154,00.html Alan -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: OT: fonts in netscape
After much research about fonts and installing them in Linux one of the little pearls I discovered was that the X font server will by default use the smallest font size that is available, which is normally 75 dpi, but you may find it more useful to use fonts that are at least 100dpi, so you need to change the deafult to the larger setting by switching the two default font sizes. Of course if you do not have particular font installed on your system then the application you are using will use whatever default you have previously specified -- in Netscape you obviously do this in the Preferences. Now unfortunately I cant remember where I found that reference but here is a place to start: http://www.links2go.com/more/www.ntrnet.net/~jmknoble/fonts/ Alan On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, Hidong Kim wrote regarding OT: fonts in netscape: > Hi, > > I'm having problems seeing fonts correctly in netscape. I created a web > page using the StarOffice HTML editor. I chose Verdana for the font. > When I view this page in netscape, the font appears as really small, > hard to read Times. When I view this page in Windows, either netscape > or IE, it looks correct. I have my netscape preferences to use > page-specified fonts. I can view other pages which use Verdana, and > they look fine. What else can I check? The page is > http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com/buffers.htm if anyone is interested > in looking at the HTML. Thanks, > > > > Hidong > > > -- > To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" > as the Subject. -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: RED HAT 5.1 INSTLLATION
On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, Jimmie Brandon wrote regarding RED HAT 5.1 INSTLLATION: > I just finished installing Red Hat 5.1. > > The computer has rebooted and it is asking for > > "localhost login:". Type [your user account name] or root > > In the installation process, earlier it asked me for > a login and password. I tried using the password at > the "localhost login:" prompt, but the system wants > another password. > Then, type your password for the account you entered when it asks for one. > The "localhost login:" prompt just keeps coming back > for the correct login. Yes it will because you are using the password in the user name field. > __ > Do You Yahoo!? Only sometimes, when no one is listening :-) -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
OT: e-commerce packages
Hi all, I am researching applications for enterprise class e-commerce packages and thought that some of you may have suggestions about what you might consider good starting points. In terms of my requirements my brief is very general and so I am considering that I will need to look at: -business to business ordering and payments facilties (both for clients and suppliers), this would probably require access to the inventory system -customer ordering facilities, including cash payments and billing -customer payment facilities -order fulfillment tracking -credit facilities -complaints and returns facilities -it would need to be able to run 24/7, on a stable system (hence Linux :-) -can be interfaced with the local banking system for immediate credit card approvals and electronic account transactions -it, perhaps obviously, would need to be fast--especially for online access -it, again obviously, would need to have a full reporting/logging capability -it, very obviously, would need to be secure (using VPN, or some such, especially for supplier access) At this point the application that first springs to mind is Intershop (which I understand provides all/most of these capabilties) but I don't know if it has been ported to Linux yet. From the brief I have received I get the impression that the idea is to look at shrink wrapped packages (but isn't that always the best way) and it may not be ideal at this point to consider the expense and complexity of developing something from scratch -- although the 'right' package would have to be adapted anyway. Does anyone know what is currently available on RHLinux that may fit this bill? Ta Alan >From the country that STILL has the Americas Cup. *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Backing up via Appletalk
Thanks Kevin, I have done a couple of different set ups, Retrospect, which is running on a Mac, needs to have the volumes mounted onto it's desktop, which is fine -- no problem there. The main problem is that Retrospect does two rather nasty things *It doessnt recognise symbolic links as files *It decompresses all the stuff in /usr and tries to recompress it onto tape for archiving. Which in my case expanded around 650Mb into 12Gb, then tried to recompress, which would have taken about 6 - 9 Gb! Now, I have been swapping e-mails with Retrospect asking for details of when a client would be developed, and they have said the following: > I've submitted this feature request. If you know of others who have the same > request they can certainly let us know if they'd like. > > Matthew Tevenan > Technical Support Specialist > Dantz Development Corporation > 925.253.3050 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > So, if you are in a similar position (remembering that Retrospect is now also available on Windows) then please let them know. On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Kevin Diffily wrote regarding Re: Backing up via Appletalk: > Try the following > echo "/home Retrospect_Backup">>/etc/atalk/AppleVolumes.default > #This will make a share called Retrospect_Backup > #Create a user retrospect. > #Give that user access to /home > #This will allow the user Retrospect access to all directories in home. > > >I need to be able to backup my Linux box via Dantz Retrospect, > >running on a Mac > >and backing up onto 8Gb Travan tapes (the Retrospect does a good job > >of backing > >up and restoring files). > > > >At the moment I can backup up user account partitions because they can be > >mounted onto the Mac desktop with netatalk, in order for Retrospect to back > >up the user accounts' home directory I need to initially mount it onto the > >desktop (after this Retrospect then simply requests a password to access that > >partition). So I need a way in which I can mount either all the partitions or > >the whole box in one lump. Anyone got any clues about how I can manage this? > > > >Or do I need to create a backup file that can be further backed up > >onto the Mac > >-- that would be a drag. > > > >Retrospect can access drives on machines like WinNT via TCP/IP, but it needs > >client software installed on the client box, which Dantz do not provide for > >Linux :( > > > >Your help here would really be appreciated. > > > >Alan -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Backing up via Appletalk
Bob, Thanks for the advice, I'll give that a go when I have a spare moment. >For mounting all the user shares on the Linux server run an AppleScript >to mount them. >-- Start Code -- > >-- define variables to use >set LinuxServer to "my.server.com" >set passwd to "butthead" >set username to "bobuser" > >-- Mount the volumes from Linux Server >mount volume "Home" on server LiteratiInternalServer as user name >username with > -> password passwd > >mount volume "Literati Stuff" on server LiteratiInternalServer as user >name > -> username with password passwd > >mount volume "Literati WWW" on server LiteratiInternalServer as user name > -> username with password passwd > >-- play a sound >say "Linux Volumes Mounted" > >-- End Code -- > >The lines with a "->" are continued from the previous line, and the "->" >is not AppleScript code, so you'll want to delete it. I can't remember >where I got the syntax for this code, in one of the Applescript >dictionaries I think. > >Of course this code uses the same username and password but you can just >put them in the code instead of using variables if you want. Also, I >don't do any error chekcing here, things like checking if AppleTalk is >set to ethernet may be good. > > One of the main problem with this approach is that if I need to restore a selection of files from the backup Restrospect will not be able tell me what is inside the tar file. In my line of business I need to be able to access archived files fairly quickly. >>Or do I need to create a backup file that can be further backed up onto >>the Mac >>-- that would be a drag. > >You could run a cron job everynight that tars everything else you want >backed up into one or more tar/gzip archives. And have that file put into >one of the user directories you have access too. > This may be an option, but I'd rather not have to log in as root, for obvious reasons, unless I can set up a use account that give read only access from /. >Or you could make a Netatalk resource that is the mount point on the >Linux box, but >I'd imagine you'd have to be root or have a user that can read all the >files to get them all. > >One my system I use the file "/etc/atalk/AppleVolumes.default" > >/ "Whole Darn Thing" options=noadouble > I have actually written to Dantz a couple of times in the last few years about this. They have tended to feign interest, but more recetnly they have simply not replied:-( I agree that Retrospect is a good option for backing up, especially over diverse systems and networks. I have not encountered any problems with permissions to date, but that is food for thought. >>Retrospect can access drives on machines like WinNT via TCP/IP, but it needs >>client software installed on the client box, which Dantz do not provide for >>Linux :( > >How about you email Dantz and suggest a Linux client for Retrospect and >I'll do the same. Maybe we'll see something someday. I'd really like to >backup my Internal Office Linux box using Retrospect but don't because of >some fo the issues you pointed out and not being able to read all the >files (if I log in as just a user and not Root). Also I don't think >Retrospect will get the file permissions (correct me if I'm wrong). So >you may want to create a file that have the permission listed in them. A >simple command: "ls -aFlRB / > allfiles" Alan -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Backing up via Appletalk
I need to be able to backup my Linux box via Dantz Retrospect, running on a Mac and backing up onto 8Gb Travan tapes (the Retrospect does a good job of backing up and restoring files). At the moment I can backup up user account partitions because they can be mounted onto the Mac desktop with netatalk, in order for Retrospect to back up the user accounts' home directory I need to initially mount it onto the desktop (after this Retrospect then simply requests a password to access that partition). So I need a way in which I can mount either all the partitions or the whole box in one lump. Anyone got any clues about how I can manage this? Or do I need to create a backup file that can be further backed up onto the Mac -- that would be a drag. Retrospect can access drives on machines like WinNT via TCP/IP, but it needs client software installed on the client box, which Dantz do not provide for Linux :( Your help here would really be appreciated. Alan -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: lpr: lp: unknown printer
This is what I use with success
##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 1200x1200 a4 {} PostScript Default {}
lp|lj-5|remote-hplj:\
:\:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lpj-5:\
:\:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:rm=192.168.6.8:\
:rp=lj-5|remote-hplj:\
:\:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lpj-5/filter:
Note that the rm address is the IP address of the JetDirect card.
Address
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, John J. Donohue wrote:
> I'm trying to get a Redhat 4.0 box to print to an HP JetDirect card. I did
> some reading (howto's, web searches) and found some printcap examples for
> JetDirects which I used to edit my own printcap.
> I cleared leftover lock files in /var/spool/lpd, stopped and then restarted
> lpd with /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd.init. Then I tried to print files using lpr.
> Variations on printcaps and lpr parameters all bring up the same error
> message;
>
> lpr: : unknown printer
>
> I can telnet to the JetDirect on port 9100 and the printer prints whatever I
> type. The NT4 boxes print to it with no problems.
> What did I forget to do on the Redhat box?
>
>
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Re: lpr changes between 6 - 6.1
Well, Steve, you could try to the alias routine that got me through. Add lp to your aliases in printcap -- unless you already have it there of course. Alan On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Steve Feehan wrote: > We have several dozen linux boxes that were upgraded from Redhat 6 to > 6.1. After the upgrade printing was broken. We print to LPRng on a > solaris 5.6 box. > > The only solution I could find was to "downgrade" to the Redhat 6 version > of lpr. > > Is this a known problem? Any other ideas of how to deal with this > problem? I don't particularly like to use older versions of software if it > can be avoided. > > Thanks. > > -- > Steve Feehan > *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Big globs of egg (was Re: Printtool can't find any devices)
Well, excuse me while I just duck below the keyboard to wipe a few fairly
sizeable globs of egg off my cheek.
And before I start I want to that everyone whp has offered suggestions for help
in this issue - to Steve and Steve, Bernhard, Hidong, Craig, Uncle Meat \:-) and
any others who offered help.
Its funny how the *most important features* of a system, when they dont work
right, blind one to the most likely cause and in this case I went through all
the routines of updating this and that, checking out gotchas and How-Tos.
Making the necessary alterations along the way, but I forgot to check that what
the How_to said to do was (a) complete, and (b) entirely accurate.
You see the Printing How-To explains how to connect to a JetDirect card for
printing to a HP LaserJet on ethernet and provides the following:
lj-5|remote-hplj:\
:lp=/dev/null:sh:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj-5:\
:rm=printer.name.com:rp=raw:
Which I edited to:
##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 1200x1200 a4 {} PostScript Default {}
lj-5|remote-hplj:\
:\:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lpj-5:\
:\:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:rm=192.168.6.8:\
:rp=lj-5|remote-hplj:\
:\:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lpj-5/filter:
What I didn't check was the aliases! the specs indicate lj-5 and remote-hplj
and on the RH51 box these worked fine. What I had to do to my one to print on
RH61 was add lp| at the start and she worked like, well you know what I mean...
Something so small causing so much frustration.
Alan
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Uncle Meat wrote:
> On 10-Feb-00 AlphaByte opined:
> > Yup. :-)
> >
> > That's all hunky dory and it still doesnt work, it is broken. Oh by the
> > way, I
> > am not printing to the parallel port, this is via eth0 -- it is a remote
> > printer (and is therefore not supported.)
> >
> > Printtool does print test pages so that is not the problem. The problem
> > is that
> > unless an application is able to call the remote printer's shortname
> > specifically I can't use it -- printtool does this and so does printing
> > from the
> > command line. Virtually all applications call lpr or lpd and these are
> > what do
> > not work, for example KDE's email client calls the shortname and prints
> > fine.
>
> Don't know if this will work for you or not It worked (and works) for me.
>
> I created /var/spool/lpd/lp which is NOT what the printing stuff from redhat
> seems to want to use. I then symlinked it to /var/spool/lpd/lp0 It has
> worked for me that way since 5.1 and still works fine with 6.0 (I don't use
> the X.1 releases any more since the fiasco I had with 5.1 - I have no idea
> about this in 6.1).
>
> I, too, do remote printing to a 'Doze box, which is what I've used since
> the original problem cropped up. I let printtool link it to lp0 and my
> symlink is what it's REALLY going to (lp).
>
> Works like a charm for me.
>
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Re: Printtool can't find any devices
Yup. :-)
That's all hunky dory and it still doesnt work, it is broken. Oh by the way, I
am not printing to the parallel port, this is via eth0 -- it is a remote
printer (and is therefore not supported.)
Printtool does print test pages so that is not the problem. The problem is that
unless an application is able to call the remote printer's shortname
specifically I can't use it -- printtool does this and so does printing from the
command line. Virtually all applications call lpr or lpd and these are what do
not work, for example KDE's email client calls the shortname and prints fine.
Alan
PS. I like your signature file ;-)
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote about "Re: Printtool can't
find any devices":
> Did you read the gotchas page?
> Like I've mentioned tons of times before, it's all an installer bug, it
> forgets to add
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> to /etc/conf.modules.
>
> Add the line manually ("echo "alias parport_lowlevel
> parport_pc" >>/etc/conf.modules") and it'll work.
>
> lpr and lpd are NOT broken.
>
> LLaP
> bero
>
> --
> The first time Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is when they
> start making vacuum cleaners.
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Re: Printtool can't find any devices
Yes, absolutely spot on. I installed RH61 after using RH51 for some two years (and found to be a great system) only so I could access the latest glibc for Adobe's FrameMaker beta. Since then I have had no end of problems with getting anything to print -- I can at least print from the command line and I can print test pages from the printtool, which seems to be more than most other people are to do. I posted a service request at RedHat and their reply was that they do not support networked printer connections, but they did at least try to *sell* me some service (and I'd like to know who is going to pay the airfare to NZ). >From what I can see the lpd/lpr commands are broken, just like the ppp dialer is broken (I had to enter noauth into the pppd config to get it to stop looking for secret passwords on my machine -- and why there, well because anything ppp-wise needs to go that way I guess). And before anyone mentions it, yes the update in the Errata does not fix the problem -- deals mainly with security issues. Now the question is, how do we get the ever deafened RedHat to do anything about this. On Wed, 09 Feb 2000, Philippe Moutarlier wrote: > I hav already sent messages about those VERY BAD THINGS that redhat is doing >nowadays. > > I don't have the fix right away for you but I experienced the same kind of trouble. >I will try to remember the hell I went through to get my printer working and tell you >when I know. > > Basically upgrading with redhat breaks basic things and it doesn't look like they >care ! In the case of the printer, they went for the module thing but they didn't >think about notifying this to anyone. > > There is also the NFS pb : no sym link anymore. Even if the docs for exports still >say it is OK. I sent messages about this but no help. If you want it, downgrade. > > Sendmail blocking at boot time for ever if it cannot connect .. > > and so on . > > Personnaly, I upgrade to get the latest revision of the software. Not of the distrib >which I think is going downwards. > > Philippe > -- *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: lpr and LPRng 3.4.2
Are you printing to a networked printer shared through the Solaris box. I have been trying to get an HP LaserJet 5000 GN to print and it wont from most applications, except those few that bypass lpr and use the printers shortname. This may be more widespread than you think! Alan On Wed, 09 Feb 2000, Steve Feehan wrote: > Is there a known problem between the version of the lpr rpm that ships > with Redhat 6.1 and LPRng 3.4.2 running on Solaris 2.6? > > The reason I ask is that we were able to print with Redhat 6, but when we > upgraded to Redhat 6.1 printing was broken. If I "downgrade" the lpr rpm > on Redhat 6.1 to the version that shipped with Redhat 6 then the problem > goes away. I would like to avoid running older versions of lpr on the > linux boxes, however. > > Any ideas will be appreciated. > > -- > Steve Feehan > -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Fwd: Printing from Gnome
I have RH6.1 on intel and am trying to print to a HP LaserJet 5000GN on ethernet. The printer has a JetDirect port to which I am printing successfully from KDE applications like the mail client, as well as from the printtool in the RH Control Panel -- I can print test pages from there with no problems. I cannot get anything in Gnome to print though (it's like there is something broken). The connection to the printer from the printtool is through the networked printer option (I do not want to use Samba because the network is essentially Appletalk). I have enquired from RedHat and the reply basically says that RedHat do not support networked printer configurations. Any help would be very much appreciated, I have struggled with this one for days. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz __ Specialising in: Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. *** -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Printing from Gnome
I have RH6.1 on intel and am trying to print to a HP LaserJet 5000GN on ethernet. The printer has a JetDirect port to which I am printing successfully from KDE applications like the mail client, as well as from the printtool in the RH Control Panel -- I can print test pages from there with no problems. I cannot get anything in Gnome to print though (it's like there is something broken). The connection to the printer from the printtool is through the networked printer option (I do not want to use Samba because the network is essentially Appletalk). I have enquired from RedHat and the reply basically says that RedHat do not support networked printer configurations. Any help would be very much appreciated, I have struggled with this one for days. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
