Re: Accesing windows software in a networked computer
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Manuel Camacho wrote: Dear Friends: At the office, the management is thinking about changing all the network from Novell and Windows to Linux. But, we require some software that only exists in Windows version, such as AutoCAD and MSProject. I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a server, and let all the Linux workstations access the MS software on this server??? Would a VMWare/Win4Lin required on every client? If you know what workstations would want to run the software, you could just have several VMWare licenses on these workstations and have a Samba server serve the software (autocad and ms project shared installations on a server are possible, I think...) to the Windows OS'es clients running under VMWare... Performance-wise, it's the best solution... If you're loooking at a Terminal Server solution, then you could either use some of the VMWare GSX/ESX server solutions (if you really want to have your native server OS under Linux) or you could setup a w2k server with MetaFrame and then deploy metaframe clients on the Linux clients (that solution is around 5k US$ for software only, perhaps more). As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses. That's not gonna happen.. If you run a copy of windows NT/2k/9X/DeadMeat under VMWare or win4lin, then since it's a copy, you have to pay for the license.. However, if you mean by this that you don't have to buy two copies if you have two users which are using the software but only if a one-after-the-other mode, then it's true you will reduce the number of licenses (from two to one in this case). Your only way not to have to buy a license from M$ is to run your apps under WINE.. without any M$ DLL installed and I don't think that will work for Autocad.. And of course, you still need the licenses for Project and Autocad. ,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-, Vincent S. Cojot, Computer Engineering. STEP project. _.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Comite Micro-Informatique. _.,-*~'`^`'~*-,. Linux Xview/OpenLook resources page _.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~' http://step.polymtl.ca/~coyote _.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] They cannot scare me with their empty spaces Between stars - on stars where no human race is I have it in me so much nearer home To scare myself with my own desert places. - Robert Frost ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Accesing windows software in a networked computer
Hi Manuel, I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a server, and let all the Linux workstations access the MS software on this server??? As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses. That's a no go. I mean the avoidance of licence fees. RTFL. Bye, Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Accesing windows software in a networked computer
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Talkington wrote: Manuel Camacho wrote: I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a server, and let all the Linux workstations access the MS software on this server??? The only way I can think of is terminal server, and that's not much use to you unless there's a terminal services client for Java or Linux. As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses. You're probably not going to achieve that result. Read the licenses, with special attention to issues of concurrent usage and client access licenses. I'll be very interested in any solution you come up with, because I've faced the same problem. The solution so far has always been to wean my people from the Microsoft apps they think they need. You can ditch Project ... there are other ways to accomplish its goals. I'm not qualified to comment on AutoCAD, though; I don't know the lay of the land there. Can't say as this will solve your problem as you will still need terminal services licenses for the concurrent connections for client but. www.rdesktop.org allows a linux desktop to access an NT server running terminal services to login as a client. One of the slickest reasons I like to use it, other than I don't have to install NT on my local linux box, is using a non-4/3 aspect ratio. Say something like 1024x1152. Very nifty tool. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Accesing windows software in a networked computer
Dear Friends: At the office, the management is thinking about changing all the network from Novell and Windows to Linux. But, we require some software that only exists in Windows version, such as AutoCAD and MSProject. I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a server, and let all the Linux workstations access the MS software on this server??? Would a VMWare/Win4Lin required on every client? As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses. TIA, -Manuel. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Accesing windows software in a networked computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manuel Camacho wrote: I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a server, and let all the Linux workstations access the MS software on this server??? The only way I can think of is terminal server, and that's not much use to you unless there's a terminal services client for Java or Linux. As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses. You're probably not going to achieve that result. Read the licenses, with special attention to issues of concurrent usage and client access licenses. I'll be very interested in any solution you come up with, because I've faced the same problem. The solution so far has always been to wean my people from the Microsoft apps they think they need. You can ditch Project ... there are other ways to accomplish its goals. I'm not qualified to comment on AutoCAD, though; I don't know the lay of the land there. - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBO/K6Vb9BpdPKTBGtEQIX3gCgoEOiUJdzJeH95Jo/zBfguvcCtEAAnjXN Wpc0c0VK8Y68hagRmRNR58P4 =TciH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list