Re: Different Question on RH 6.x Installers
On Mon, 06 Mar 2000, N Jaiswal wrote: I have done installation of 6.0 and 6.1 on PII-350 with 64MB Ram and for workstation mode, it took not more than 20 minutes. No more than 40 minutes on my 486/66 w/24 RAM =). -Manuel. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Different Question on RH 6.x Installers
I have done installation of 6.0 and 6.1 on PII-350 with 64MB Ram and for workstation mode, it took not more than 20 minutes. - Original Message - From: Pete Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 08:45 Subject: Different Question on RH 6.x Installers With Redhat 5.0 and 5.2 (I never installed 5.1), I used to demonstrate to people who feared Unix installations how easy and fast it was to install RedHat Linux. We had a P133 machine lying around and I would show people that after a few initial steps, the simple "workstation" install would then take about 15-20 minutes even on such a slow machine, much easier and quicker than an NT install. When 6.0 came along, I did an "upgrade" on that same machine (again taking the "workstation" defaults) and it took well over an hour --- I think it was close to TWO hours. I suspected that may have been due to the extra checks and other manipulations needed for "upgrading", so I tried doing an "install" instead of an upgrade -- it STILL took about the same amount of time. When 6.1 came along, the installation was still worse. Admittedly the default workstation installation installed more items in 6.x compared to 5.x, but that difference wouldn't come close to explaining the time difference. Last week, I did a 6.1 trial install (workstation again) on a 600 Mhz Intel PIII machine. I left before it finished, but it had run for over an hour before I left. Can anyone explain why the installation time has soared so much? Is this related to "anaconda"? Would it be faster to do a bare bones minimum custom install and then just feed a list to rpm to do the rest? Is the problem really with RPM? The "workstation" and "server" configurations aren't all that useful to me, but they seem like reasonable things for people who have never installed Linux before, so I used them as demos to show people how easy and quick the installation process could be (at least in 5.x). Another question -- the selection of items for custom install seems to be more painful than it used to be. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I remember custom installs being easier in earlier versions. I went through several custom installs on one machine before finding out there was a hardware problem on the machine. One thing that would be very nice to have would be the opportunity to save the selected configuration to a floppy before actually starting the install. In that way, if I had to do the install again or do a similar install on another machine, I could save lots of effort by starting with defaults being the previously saved configuration. Another thing that would be helpful would be to allow use of fdisk in all installation modes -- or an option in Disk Druid to escape to fdisk. It seems like dealing with Disk Druid is always a struggle and fdisk is much simpler and does what you ask it to do. pete peterson GenRad, Inc. 7 Technology Park Drive Westford, MA 01886-0033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-978-589-7478 (GenRad); +1-978-256-5829 (Home: Chelmsford, MA) +1-978-589-2088 (Closest FAX); +1-978-589-7007 (Main GenRad FAX) -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Different Question on RH 6.x Installers
On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 10:15:13PM -0500, Pete Peterson wrote: [snip] Another thing that would be helpful would be to allow use of fdisk in all installation modes -- or an option in Disk Druid to escape to fdisk. It seems like dealing with Disk Druid is always a struggle and fdisk is much simpler and does what you ask it to do. I would also like to use fdisk, even if I have to switch to another VT and run it. I didn't find it during the install. I've resorted to booting a Debian CDROM, using fdisk and then rebooting the RH 6.1 CD to use the now existing partitions. -- Ron Golan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Different Question on RH 6.x Installers
use expert mode, and fdisk becomes an option On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Ron Golan wrote: I would also like to use fdisk, even if I have to switch to another VT and run it. I didn't find it during the install. I've resorted to booting a Debian CDROM, using fdisk and then rebooting the RH 6.1 CD to use the now existing partitions. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Different Question on RH 6.x Installers
With Redhat 5.0 and 5.2 (I never installed 5.1), I used to demonstrate to people who feared Unix installations how easy and fast it was to install RedHat Linux. We had a P133 machine lying around and I would show people that after a few initial steps, the simple "workstation" install would then take about 15-20 minutes even on such a slow machine, much easier and quicker than an NT install. When 6.0 came along, I did an "upgrade" on that same machine (again taking the "workstation" defaults) and it took well over an hour --- I think it was close to TWO hours. I suspected that may have been due to the extra checks and other manipulations needed for "upgrading", so I tried doing an "install" instead of an upgrade -- it STILL took about the same amount of time. When 6.1 came along, the installation was still worse. Admittedly the default workstation installation installed more items in 6.x compared to 5.x, but that difference wouldn't come close to explaining the time difference. Last week, I did a 6.1 trial install (workstation again) on a 600 Mhz Intel PIII machine. I left before it finished, but it had run for over an hour before I left. Can anyone explain why the installation time has soared so much? Is this related to "anaconda"? Would it be faster to do a bare bones minimum custom install and then just feed a list to rpm to do the rest? Is the problem really with RPM? The "workstation" and "server" configurations aren't all that useful to me, but they seem like reasonable things for people who have never installed Linux before, so I used them as demos to show people how easy and quick the installation process could be (at least in 5.x). Another question -- the selection of items for custom install seems to be more painful than it used to be. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I remember custom installs being easier in earlier versions. I went through several custom installs on one machine before finding out there was a hardware problem on the machine. One thing that would be very nice to have would be the opportunity to save the selected configuration to a floppy before actually starting the install. In that way, if I had to do the install again or do a similar install on another machine, I could save lots of effort by starting with defaults being the previously saved configuration. Another thing that would be helpful would be to allow use of fdisk in all installation modes -- or an option in Disk Druid to escape to fdisk. It seems like dealing with Disk Druid is always a struggle and fdisk is much simpler and does what you ask it to do. pete peterson GenRad, Inc. 7 Technology Park Drive Westford, MA 01886-0033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-978-589-7478 (GenRad); +1-978-256-5829 (Home: Chelmsford, MA) +1-978-589-2088 (Closest FAX); +1-978-589-7007 (Main GenRad FAX) -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
