Re: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-08 Thread Edward C. Bailey

> "Chet" == Chet Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Chet> Hey there, I'm running Redhat 7.2 on an IBM Thinkpad i1300 series
Chet> laptop, and for some reason, the keyboard and/or mouse will just stop
Chet> working at random times. The system itself is still okay (ie: if im
Chet> playing an MP3 it will continue to play, or if I'm chatting in IRC
Chet> the chat will keep coming). I just won't be able to move the cursor,
Chet> enter text with the keyboard, or both.. I was wondering why this is
Chet> happening, and what I can do to fix it. Hopefully it's a pretty
Chet> common problem. Thanks in advance for helping!  :)

I had a ThinkPad 560 that did this a long time ago; I think it was related
to power-saving settings in the BIOS...

Ed
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Re: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-07 Thread Edward Dekkers

> Hey Ed,
>
> I think I might try doing that. I'm gone this weekend, but when I get back
> home I'll look into BIOS updates and see whats available. Problem
though..do
> I need to be able to boot into Windows to update the BIOS? I don't have
any
> Windows partitions on my drive anymore. I think I had looked at the BIOS
> once though for checking the APM settings and stuff, but failed to find
> any.. I'll be home Saturday though, so I'll check then :) Thanks for the
> help :)
>
> Chet

Hey Chet,
It's the original response Ed here to avoid confusion.

The other Ed's reponse is quite valid - a BIOS upgrade might help.

BUT:

It seems you are very unfamiliar with how to do that (no, it's not through
windows usually, you're going to have to know a bit of DOS and have a DOS
boot floppy). And I can tell from 6 years experience that you must have
EXACTLY the right BIOS. A power failure or even a glitch will RUIN your
board if it is not done properly (The other Ed correctly warned you of
this). I myself have killed 2 boards using BIOS images directly from the
distributors they ASSURED me were correct. They were replaced under warranty
(it was after all their fault), but I can't stress enough that you might
only want to do this if my original point doesn't help. True, I've upgraded
numerous boards successfully, but accidents do happen. You have been warned.

I urge you to try turning off all power saving stuff first in the BIOS and
see what this does before trying it.

It's a lot safer.

Regards,
Ed.

Hope you get this before you blow your board.




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Re: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-07 Thread Chet Nichols III

Hey Ed,

I think I might try doing that. I'm gone this weekend, but when I get back
home I'll look into BIOS updates and see whats available. Problem though..do
I need to be able to boot into Windows to update the BIOS? I don't have any
Windows partitions on my drive anymore. I think I had looked at the BIOS
once though for checking the APM settings and stuff, but failed to find
any.. I'll be home Saturday though, so I'll check then :) Thanks for the
help :)

Chet

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Hamm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Keyboard and mouse die


> Also look at updating the bios to the latest rev.  READ THIS if you have
> never upgraded a flash bios before read all the documents before you start
> the process.  Flashing a bios improperly is the best way I know to turn a
> laptop into a brick.  Ed is most likely correct APM can cause the
> unexplained random lockups.  Remeber that even when you are using a system
> if you are not accessing devices the system will/can turn them off.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Dekkers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Keyboard and mouse die
>
>
> Re: Keyboard and mouse die
> As for the keyboard and mouse dying, it will just be at completely random
> times. Sometimes in mozilla, sometimes when I've got the terminal
open..I'm
> really confused with it :( Could the screensaver be indirectly affecting
it
> somehow?
>
> Talk to you soon, thanks :)
>
> 
>
> To trace this down, do you want to do me a favour and turn off ALL the
power
> saving crap in the BIOS?
>
> I have a sneaky feeling this may help.
>
> Regards,
> Ed.
>
>
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RE: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-06 Thread Paul Hamm

Also look at updating the bios to the latest rev.  READ THIS if you have
never upgraded a flash bios before read all the documents before you start
the process.  Flashing a bios improperly is the best way I know to turn a
laptop into a brick.  Ed is most likely correct APM can cause the
unexplained random lockups.  Remeber that even when you are using a system
if you are not accessing devices the system will/can turn them off.  

-Original Message-
From: Edward Dekkers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Keyboard and mouse die


Re: Keyboard and mouse die
As for the keyboard and mouse dying, it will just be at completely random
times. Sometimes in mozilla, sometimes when I've got the terminal open..I'm
really confused with it :( Could the screensaver be indirectly affecting it
somehow?

Talk to you soon, thanks :)



To trace this down, do you want to do me a favour and turn off ALL the power
saving crap in the BIOS?

I have a sneaky feeling this may help.

Regards,
Ed.




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Re: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-05 Thread Edward Dekkers

Re: Keyboard and mouse die
As for the keyboard and mouse dying, it will just be at completely random
times. Sometimes in mozilla, sometimes when I've got the terminal open..I'm
really confused with it :( Could the screensaver be indirectly affecting it
somehow?

Talk to you soon, thanks :)



To trace this down, do you want to do me a favour and turn off ALL the power
saving crap in the BIOS?

I have a sneaky feeling this may help.

Regards,
Ed.




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Re: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-05 Thread Chet Nichols
Title: Re: Keyboard and mouse die



Hey Manuel,

I had actually read about that problem, so I disabled the screen saver to see if it helped..it didn't :( I mean, there are times where APM kicks in, and then it freezes at a black screen and I have to restart.

As for the keyboard and mouse dying, it will just be at completely random times. Sometimes in mozilla, sometimes when I've got the terminal open..I'm really confused with it :( Could the screensaver be indirectly affecting it somehow?

Talk to you soon, thanks :)

Chet



> Does it happen when the screensaver is on?
>
> I had similar problems that dissapeared deselecting some screensavers 
> from the list of xscreensaver.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>-Manuel.





Re: Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-05 Thread Manuel A. Camacho Q.

Does it happen when the screensaver is on?

I had similar problems that dissapeared deselecting some screensavers 
from the list of xscreensaver.

Hope this helps.

-Manuel.



Chet Nichols wrote:

> Hey there,
> 
> I'm running Redhat 7.2 on an IBM Thinkpad i1300 series laptop, and for 
> some reason, the keyboard and/or mouse will just stop working at random 
> times. The system itself is still okay (ie: if im playing an MP3 it will 
> continue to play, or if I'm chatting in IRC the chat will keep coming). 
> I just won't be able to move the cursor, enter text with the keyboard, 
> or both.. I was wondering why this is happening, and what I can do to 
> fix it. Hopefully it's a pretty common problem. Thanks in advance for 
> helping! :)
> 
> Chet
> 
> 
> 
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Keyboard and mouse die

2002-03-05 Thread Chet Nichols

Hey there,

I'm running Redhat 7.2 on an IBM Thinkpad i1300 series laptop, and for 
some reason, the keyboard and/or mouse will just stop working at random 
times. The system itself is still okay (ie: if im playing an MP3 it will 
continue to play, or if I'm chatting in IRC the chat will keep coming). 
I just won't be able to move the cursor, enter text with the keyboard, 
or both.. I was wondering why this is happening, and what I can do to 
fix it. Hopefully it's a pretty common problem. Thanks in advance for 
helping! :)

Chet



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