Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-27 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

"Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This did the trick.  I didn't try it previously because I have a duron, but
> I guess Red Hat also installs the Athlon kernel on Durons.

The chips are identical, with a little extra cache on the Athlons.

Other tips:

1) Get the newest BIOS from your manufacturer. It may fix things.
2) Get the newest kernels (but you already apply all errata, right?)
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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-21 Thread fred smith

On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 08:55:37AM -0600, Bret Hughes wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 10:53:14AM -0600, Lucas wrote:
> > > This did the trick.  I didn't try it previously because I have a duron, but
> > > I guess Red Hat also installs the Athlon kernel on Durons.
> > >
> 
> >From what I could gather from the buzilla report was that there are
> issues with the way some of the VIA chipsets ar optimized.  The Athlon
> specific code in the kernel uses a very fast memory IO routine that can
> cause the bus bandwidth to be exceeded.  Apparently there is a chipset
> setting that the kernel guys have found that helps this  but since it is
> undocumented there is no way of knowing if it is dangerous to your data
> or not.  They are talking to AMD about it.

I know there have been VIA bugs that the kernel guys have had a hard
time dealing with, since Via has been not helpful (but I think I did
read not too long ago that there is some contact now with VIA).

The board I used uses the new kt266a chipset, so maybe it's
not a problem with that one. 
 
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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-21 Thread Bret Hughes

fred smith wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 10:53:14AM -0600, Lucas wrote:
> > This did the trick.  I didn't try it previously because I have a duron, but
> > I guess Red Hat also installs the Athlon kernel on Durons.
> >

>From what I could gather from the buzilla report was that there are
issues with the way some of the VIA chipsets ar optimized.  The Athlon
specific code in the kernel uses a very fast memory IO routine that can
cause the bus bandwidth to be exceeded.  Apparently there is a chipset
setting that the kernel guys have found that helps this  but since it is
undocumented there is no way of knowing if it is dangerous to your data
or not.  They are talking to AMD about it.

I read it as this, you can take it for what it is worth. It may be
totally bogus.  

 A machine that is going to use windows can crank up the
operation of the bus since windows is not going to take advantage of the
athlon/duron fat memory pipe.  If, on the other hand the os does try to
take advantage of this pipe by optimizing these low level operations it
can hit the wall.  It happens at different times depending on what is
going on in the machine at the time.


I found this on my new sony laptop (duron 900)

Bret



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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-21 Thread Devon

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On Thursday 20 December 2001 06:16 pm, fred smith wrote:
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> Why does he need "noathlon"  when it IS an Athlon?
>
> I just installed 7l2 on a 1Gig Athlon (Tbird core), didn't use any
> such options, and it runs fine (different mobo, though). What's the
> deal?

Some [buggy] motherboard/bios implementations don't properly handle the 
athlon optimizations, if I remember correctly.
I'm running a Athlon 1600+ on an Asus A7V266-E, which seems to handle the 
athlon kernel without any difficulty.

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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-21 Thread fred smith

On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 10:53:14AM -0600, Lucas wrote:
> This did the trick.  I didn't try it previously because I have a duron, but
> I guess Red Hat also installs the Athlon kernel on Durons.
> 
> -Lucas

Why does he need "noathlon"  when it IS an Athlon? 

I just installed 7l2 on a 1Gig Athlon (Tbird core), didn't use any
such options, and it runs fine (different mobo, though). What's the deal?


> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy Schuler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB
> 
> 
> > try booting with "noathlon" as a kernal argument
> 
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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-20 Thread Andy Schuler

Glad that helped,

I think it has to do with the Via chip on the mobo not the processor.


On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 08:53, Lucas wrote:
> This did the trick.  I didn't try it previously because I have a duron, but
> I guess Red Hat also installs the Athlon kernel on Durons.
> 
> -Lucas
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB
> 
> 
> > try booting with "noathlon" as a kernal argument
> 
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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-20 Thread Lucas

This did the trick.  I didn't try it previously because I have a duron, but
I guess Red Hat also installs the Athlon kernel on Durons.

-Lucas


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB


> try booting with "noathlon" as a kernal argument



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Re: 7.2 on KT7a 1.3 MoBo, Duron, and Intellimouse Explorer USB

2001-12-19 Thread Andy Schuler

try booting with "noathlon" as a kernal argument


On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 14:59, Lucas wrote:
> Okay, I got everything installed and am dual booting with XP Pro using that new (to 
>me anyway) Grub boot loader.  When I boot into Red Hat, I get a kernel panic.  It 
>usually happens after loading the USB, but it's been known to happen any time in the 
>boot sequence.  Everything is running fine under XP, so I assume it's not a hardware 
>issue.
> 
> Here's what I've tried so far:
> Disabling USB in the BIOS gets me to the shell, but of course X won't load.
> Enabling USB in the BIOS, but removing the mouse which is the only USB device 
>attached to the system doesn't work.
> Disabling the PnP OS Installed option in the BIOS doesn't work.
> Disabling the enhanced CPU performance in the BIOS doesn't work.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> -Lucas




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