Re: Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-09 Thread Kevin Myers

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

So what's your point?

I just though it would be nice if someone answered the actual question,
that's all. No flame bait involved.



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Re: Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-08 Thread Al Sparks

So what's your point?

Ok, the above was flame bait.  This is a list, and one of the disadvantages
of a list, if it's indeed a disadvantage, is that the conversations
can get out of the control of the person who started a thread.  That's
similar to face to face conversations with more than 2 people.  The person
who asked the question can probably get the conversation back on track all 
on his own w/o your help.

Anyway, my answer to his question, which I tried to say as nicely as possible,
is that you probably can't get an internet MTA to do what he wants w/o going
into the source.  Further, I can think of no good reason to try what he's
doing given the work that would be involved.

But hey, there are lists that specialize in particular MTA's.  Sendmail has
one, and so does qmail.  Though I'll warn you about the qmail list.  The
people who dominate that list (who answer the questions) like to sneer a lot
at people they consider fools.  But of course there's the saying that
sticks and stones
   === Al


--- Kevin Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Al wrote:
 
 Well, qmail and sendmail, as do most mail transport agents (MTA) have
 one thing in common.  They actually don't do password authentication.
 They just deliver mail.
 [snip]
 
 
 I'll just point out that Matthew Scarrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the
 original poster, and it's him that you should be addressing your comments
 to.
 
 
 
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Re: Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-07 Thread Al Sparks

So to summarize, 

* you have created accounts on RH that have @ userid's
in the userid.

* Email isn't reaching those accounts, because sendmail is attempting
to deliver to 
   username
on the loal machine, instead of
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which is literally the name of that account.

Wow!  I can't help but feel you're on the wrong track.  Perhaps you've
seen a email client that used the [EMAIL PROTECTED] syntax but
actually logged onto the pop server using username, and used
@yourdomain.com part to figure out the hostname instead of making the
user fill out a separate field with the hostname.

To be honest, I don't know why you would want to use this, but perhaps you
should post to the comp.mail.sendmail usenet group.  Maybe someone there
would have some ideas.
 === Al

--- Matthew Scarrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know it's possible to have a email system where the user logs in with
 there email address. I don't know how this is done though. I've been
 trying to configure sendmail to do this but with no luck. I create a
 user that has a name like [EMAIL PROTECTED] .The user is able to
 login to the pop3 server using the [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a username
 but the email system doesn't match up the user's because sendmail strips
 the domain name when looking for a user. I've tried creating an alias
 but that doesn't work. Am I missing an inbetween program here. Anyone
 got any idea's. Thanks. 
 
 Matthew Scarrow
 ComIT Solutions Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-07 Thread Kevin Myers

On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:30:03 -0700 (PDT), Al wrote:

Wow!  I can't help but feel you're on the wrong track.  Perhaps you've
seen a email client that used the [EMAIL PROTECTED] syntax but
actually logged onto the pop server using username, and used
@yourdomain.com part to figure out the hostname instead of making the
user fill out a separate field with the hostname.

To be honest, I don't know why you would want to use this, but perhaps you
should post to the comp.mail.sendmail usenet group.  Maybe someone there
would have some ideas.

I think qmail does this in connection with virtual accounts. Maybe that's
where we're going here?



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Re: Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-07 Thread Al Sparks

Well, qmail and sendmail, as do most mail transport agents (MTA) have
one thing in common.  They actually don't do password authentication.
They just deliver mail.

Now, unlike sendmail, qmail does come with a POP3 package installed, and
that's presumably because qmail's default install settings use Maildir
format instead of mbox format.  (To summarize: mbox format is where each 
user's mailbox consists of 1 file with more than one message usually located
in /var/spool/mail, whreas Maildir format uses separate files for each mail 
message, usually located in $HOME/Maildir).

So, if you're going to investigate qmail for this functionality I'd look at
qmail-pop3 (and if you plan on using that, make sure you use Maildir format)
and also investigate Boorstein's checkpassword program (Boorstein created
and maintain's qmail).  Perhaps that uses the [EMAIL PROTECTED] format.

I can't help you much with that, because I provide IMAP to access the qmail
accounts I administer, specifically courier IMAP.

Regarding virtual accounts, I googled qmail's docs real quick, and didn't 
find anything.  Perhaps you're referring to virtual DOMAINS.  All a virtual
domain does is tell the MTA to accept email addressed to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whereas without that spec, the MTA will either bounce the message or attempt to 
relay it.

Another feature qmail has (and you can also configure sendmail to do the same
thing) is the abiity to set up more than one mailbox for one account.

The way it works is, given an account, userid, you can configure that acount
to deliver email to another mailbox if you email to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
=== Al


--- Kevin Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:30:03 -0700 (PDT), Al wrote:
 
 Wow!  I can't help but feel you're on the wrong track.  Perhaps you've
 seen a email client that used the [EMAIL PROTECTED] syntax but
 actually logged onto the pop server using username, and used
 @yourdomain.com part to figure out the hostname instead of making the
 user fill out a separate field with the hostname.
 
 To be honest, I don't know why you would want to use this, but perhaps you
 should post to the comp.mail.sendmail usenet group.  Maybe someone there
 would have some ideas.
 
 I think qmail does this in connection with virtual accounts. Maybe that's
 where we're going here?
 
 
 
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Re: Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-07 Thread Kevin Myers

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Al wrote:

Well, qmail and sendmail, as do most mail transport agents (MTA) have
one thing in common.  They actually don't do password authentication.
They just deliver mail.
[snip]


I'll just point out that Matthew Scarrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the
original poster, and it's him that you should be addressing your comments
to.



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Sendmail Question- want username@yourdomain.com as login?

2002-09-06 Thread Matthew Scarrow

I know it's possible to have a email system where the user logs in with
there email address. I don't know how this is done though. I've been
trying to configure sendmail to do this but with no luck. I create a
user that has a name like [EMAIL PROTECTED] .The user is able to
login to the pop3 server using the [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a username
but the email system doesn't match up the user's because sendmail strips
the domain name when looking for a user. I've tried creating an alias
but that doesn't work. Am I missing an inbetween program here. Anyone
got any idea's. Thanks. 

Matthew Scarrow
ComIT Solutions Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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