Re: printing with truetype fonts on kde
Well, ugh. I looked through the available fonts and I guess I'll settle on some fonts that still look OK in X. I can tell this is a difficult problem. Thanks for the info. On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 11:39, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:09:04AM -0700, Carl D. Blake wrote: > > Except that this printer works just fine as a postscript printer with > > Windows 95/98/NT/2K. I'm not positive about this, but wouldn't the > > printer have problems with large files with Windows too? Since it's not > > having problems with Windows it seems to me that the printer must have > > truetype fonts. How does the KDE printing system know whether it needs > > to download the font definitions or not? > > Well, Windows cheats. It doesn't actually print TrueType as you requested. > It will do a translation of TrueType fonts to comparable PostScript fonts. > For example, Arial could become Times New Roman. There was a *long* discussion > on the Mandrake cooker lists a year or two back about KDE printing - a lot of > the CUPS work is done by a Mandrake employee, Till Kamppeter, IIRC. How > solvable this problem is today I don't know - I haven't visited this issue in > quite a while. I do know that the next major release of KDE was going to > have a significant overhaul of the printing subsystem to solve problems like > what you're having, and to give all the applications true CUPS print > requestors more in line of what you're used to seeing with Windows. > > Ghostscript apparently allows the printing of TrueType fonts, but I don't know > how this is done which specific packages you'll need. > > I'd probably start by posting at http://www.linuxprinting.org/newsportal/. > You'll find Till there along with a bunch of other people who really know how > the printing stuff works. > > -- > Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Carl D. Blake Director of Engineering Boeckeler Instruments, Inc. 4650 S. Butterfield Dr. Tucson, AZ 85714 Phone: 520-745-0001 FAX: 520-745-0004 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: printing with truetype fonts on kde
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:09:04AM -0700, Carl D. Blake wrote: > Except that this printer works just fine as a postscript printer with > Windows 95/98/NT/2K. I'm not positive about this, but wouldn't the > printer have problems with large files with Windows too? Since it's not > having problems with Windows it seems to me that the printer must have > truetype fonts. How does the KDE printing system know whether it needs > to download the font definitions or not? Well, Windows cheats. It doesn't actually print TrueType as you requested. It will do a translation of TrueType fonts to comparable PostScript fonts. For example, Arial could become Times New Roman. There was a *long* discussion on the Mandrake cooker lists a year or two back about KDE printing - a lot of the CUPS work is done by a Mandrake employee, Till Kamppeter, IIRC. How solvable this problem is today I don't know - I haven't visited this issue in quite a while. I do know that the next major release of KDE was going to have a significant overhaul of the printing subsystem to solve problems like what you're having, and to give all the applications true CUPS print requestors more in line of what you're used to seeing with Windows. Ghostscript apparently allows the printing of TrueType fonts, but I don't know how this is done which specific packages you'll need. I'd probably start by posting at http://www.linuxprinting.org/newsportal/. You'll find Till there along with a bunch of other people who really know how the printing stuff works. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: printing with truetype fonts on kde
On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 09:54, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:36:49AM -0700, Carl D. Blake wrote: > > > > The only problem now is that printing isn't working or at least it isn't > > working for my browsers. Printing works for pdf files and for most > > postscript files and text files. However, when I use Konqueror or Opera > > to print a web page the printer seems to choke on the amount of data > > being sent. I printed to a file and the file seems to have the fonts > > embedded. Apparently the printing system in KDE seems to think that it > > needs to embed these new truetype fonts into the postscript files it > > sends to the printer. > > The first question to ask is what would you have expected it do? Your printer, > by the sounds of it, does not have truetype fonts in it. So, if you want an > accurate printout, the font definitions *have* to be sent to the printer. > Anything else is an approximation. > > > I'd like to be able to print with the truetype fonts. > > You've got two choices: > 1) get a printer that has built-in truetype fonts > 2) download the font definitions to the printer. > > Welcome to the wonderful world of display vs printouts... > Except that this printer works just fine as a postscript printer with Windows 95/98/NT/2K. I'm not positive about this, but wouldn't the printer have problems with large files with Windows too? Since it's not having problems with Windows it seems to me that the printer must have truetype fonts. How does the KDE printing system know whether it needs to download the font definitions or not? > -- > Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Carl D. Blake Director of Engineering Boeckeler Instruments, Inc. 4650 S. Butterfield Dr. Tucson, AZ 85714 Phone: 520-745-0001 FAX: 520-745-0004 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: printing with truetype fonts on kde
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:36:49AM -0700, Carl D. Blake wrote: > > The only problem now is that printing isn't working or at least it isn't > working for my browsers. Printing works for pdf files and for most > postscript files and text files. However, when I use Konqueror or Opera > to print a web page the printer seems to choke on the amount of data > being sent. I printed to a file and the file seems to have the fonts > embedded. Apparently the printing system in KDE seems to think that it > needs to embed these new truetype fonts into the postscript files it > sends to the printer. The first question to ask is what would you have expected it do? Your printer, by the sounds of it, does not have truetype fonts in it. So, if you want an accurate printout, the font definitions *have* to be sent to the printer. Anything else is an approximation. > I'd like to be able to print with the truetype fonts. You've got two choices: 1) get a printer that has built-in truetype fonts 2) download the font definitions to the printer. Welcome to the wonderful world of display vs printouts... -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
printing with truetype fonts on kde
All right, now I'm really getting annoyed. I recently installed Microsofts truetype fonts from the windows98 CD I have on my RedHat 7.1 system for XFree86 4.1.0 (I know, I know - I feel dirty). I did this because when I did a recent up2date my XFree86 was upgraded to 4.1.0 and all the fonts became pretty ugly. Anyway, the fonts look pretty good on my system. Everything with the X display looks great. The only problem now is that printing isn't working or at least it isn't working for my browsers. Printing works for pdf files and for most postscript files and text files. However, when I use Konqueror or Opera to print a web page the printer seems to choke on the amount of data being sent. I printed to a file and the file seems to have the fonts embedded. Apparently the printing system in KDE seems to think that it needs to embed these new truetype fonts into the postscript files it sends to the printer. Embedding the fonts makes the postscript file so large that the printer seems to choke on it. The printer I'm using is a HP LaserJet 6MP. I'm using KDE 2.1.1. Does anybody have any suggestions? I've tried changing the fonts back to the original fonts and everything works when I do that. However, the fonts don't look so hot on my system. I'd like to be able to print with the truetype fonts. -- Carl D. Blake Electronics Design Engr. Mgr. Boeckeler Instruments, Inc. 4650 S. Butterfield Dr. Tucson, AZ 85714 Phone: 520-745-0001 FAX: 520-745-0004 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
