Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Peter Kiem wrote: Hi Ben, We're going to be installing 5-10 RedHat OS'es on some Compaq BL10e blades soon. My question is which version of redhat is the most stable and friendly to other applications. I'd like to implement the version Personally I think 7.3 is just fine for production servers and that is what I use for all my client sites and my own servers. Very stable and although support is officially going away end of the year I think it will be around for a very long time. After reading about all the problems people had with 8 I would stay away from it. They changed a LOT of things with 8 (like new versions of Apache etc) which caused a lot of things to break. RH9 runs apache, vhost, pri and sec mx's, pri dns and nntp all without a glitchfor desktop tho, i still use 7.3 -- Res - Network Solutions: clueless f'wits who dont care whos business they damage through their incompetance, which is the ONLY thing they excel at. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
Just in case someone wants to use RH9, this is from Dell's Power Edge LINUX list... Gavin Durman --- Xavier University Systems Administrator === [EMAIL PROTECTED] (513)745-1905http://staff.xu.edu/~durman Everything appears in shades of grey to the unfocused mind... -- Dell is pleased to announce availability of Red Hat® Linux® 9 Professional, factory installed, on all PowerEdge servers and select Precision workstations (360n, 450n, and 650n). Installation instructions and important information documents, including the list of known issues and workarounds, are available at the URLs below. PowerEdge http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/software/oslin9x/90_update/index.htm Precision http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/software/oslinux/ Additional information is available at http://www.dell.com/linux Red Hat Linux 9 Professional is Red Hat's consumer operating system that may be used by small businesses for web infrastructure and for desktop installations. Many of the feature enhancements from the previous version are designed to assist small businesses set up their network infrastructure or desktops. Red Hat Linux 9 Professional is the LAST version of the Consumer family of operating systems that is available for system vendors such as Dell to offer with a platform, either pre-loaded or included in the system packaging. It is strongly recommended that users of Red Hat Professional in server environments begin the planning process for migrating to Red Hat's Enterprise family of products. Red Hat no longer offers certification for the 'Consumer' family of products. While every effort has been taken by Dell to insure correct operation of the software on our hardware, formal certification is not available. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer, Architect Dell Linux Solutions www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com ___ Linux-PowerEdge mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge Please read the FAQ at http://lists.us.dell.com/faq or search the list archives at http://lists.us.dell.com/htdig/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems (Gavin Durman)
Our organization is currently in the pilot phase of migrating from different versions of RH 7.x/8.x/9.x(very few) to RH Linux AS. RH Linux Advanced Server will incorporate a more formal direction for RedHat re: their support strategy for long term corporate health. And... If you think about it, it not only is wise for them, but a good idea for a medium to large business that wants to promote internally that Linux is friendly. With no issues of licensing costs, having developed a formalized and stringent training certification process and offering paid for AS support, it not only shows corporations that it has grown up, but also that you can see the added value of being able to dev on an unsupported system, test on a low-end support system, and publish onto a full RH AS supported production system. I am not sure whether or not the source code will remain free as in beer, anymore, but customer support, I believe, will retain non-kernel source code freedom as in speech. It is good to see that Dell is being proactive, albeit perhaps not clear, about their need to switch the pre-configured systems default OS install for servers. Peace. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Which version of RedHat for production systems
Hi, We're going to be installing 5-10 RedHat OS'es on some Compaq BL10e blades soon. My question is which version of redhat is the most stable and friendly to other applications. I'd like to implement the version of RH that is most compatible with the RPM's and code out there on the 'Net. We don't plan on using the GUI, so fancy desktop stuff is not important. I don't think we are going to use Advanced server 2.1 either. I was thinking 7.3 or 8.x? Thanks, Ben Benjamin Conrad Sr. Network Administrator USPowerSolutions 617.547.3800 x195 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
I'd go 8. It's new enough that people will be using it for a while, but it's not their latest so it's had some time to stabilize. However, I 'm not sure how long they are supporting it, so you had better find another source of well-tested updates. For my post on why you should at least consider one of the Enterprise Red Hat's - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=66998cid=6154148 Jon On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Conrad, Ben wrote: Hi, We're going to be installing 5-10 RedHat OS'es on some Compaq BL10e blades soon. My question is which version of redhat is the most stable and friendly to other applications. I'd like to implement the version of RH that is most compatible with the RPM's and code out there on the 'Net. We don't plan on using the GUI, so fancy desktop stuff is not important. I don't think we are going to use Advanced server 2.1 either. I was thinking 7.3 or 8.x? Thanks, Ben Benjamin Conrad Sr. Network Administrator USPowerSolutions 617.547.3800 x195 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
Hi Ben, We're going to be installing 5-10 RedHat OS'es on some Compaq BL10e blades soon. My question is which version of redhat is the most stable and friendly to other applications. I'd like to implement the version Personally I think 7.3 is just fine for production servers and that is what I use for all my client sites and my own servers. Very stable and although support is officially going away end of the year I think it will be around for a very long time. After reading about all the problems people had with 8 I would stay away from it. They changed a LOT of things with 8 (like new versions of Apache etc) which caused a lot of things to break. -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^. | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Zordah IT /V\ | Mobile: +61 0414 724 766| | IT Consultancy /( )\ | WWW : www.zordah.net | | Internet Hosting ^^-^^ | ICQ : Zordah 81 | +-+-+ My current spamtrap address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
Hi, Regarding production, well it depends what type of production you mean. If its visual effects then I would strongly recomend you research this to death or it will be your death as post is insane. Issues I found in post using Linux client and server; 1) Both NFS client and server are weak. Easy to crash or hang. 2) Not very good OpenGL support or very high end video card support. I am not however, informed regarding RH9 and how much better it may be in these 2 very key feilds in post. What I've done is use Windblowz clients (2K Pro, do not use XP, it is not yet stable for post in my experiance) and Samba file serving. Reason I did is OpenGL seems more mature in Winblowz and Samba is very stable as I've 80+ cpus hitting a RH 8.0 XFS equiped RAID w/o probs other than it does slow. Forget NFS and Linux for now atleast pre 9. I hope 9 is cool as I prefer homogenous envs. Hope my input helps. I've a lot more info but it'll cost ya :) Bri- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
Hi Bri, RAID w/o probs other than it does slow. Forget NFS and Linux for now atleast pre 9. I hope 9 is cool as I disagree. I am currently using RH7.3 and NFS in production servers and it is running VERY well. -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^. | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Zordah IT /V\ | Mobile: +61 0414 724 766| | IT Consultancy /( )\ | WWW : www.zordah.net | | Internet Hosting ^^-^^ | ICQ : Zordah 81 | +-+-+ My current spamtrap address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
Hi, Would you mind sharing some info about your setup? I'd rather use NFS and autfs/sym links to create a type of unified dir structure that I usually have done on SGIs that are very production worthy but am shy to do so on Linux. I can make the Linux NFS server choke with 10 clients and doing a dd of /dev/0 let alone rendering 30 procs. Stuff I'd like to know; NFS ver async on/off and other export setting rd and wr settings anything else thats custom I do appreciate it as now I am faced with Implementing Dfs (Microsoft DFS) in Samba to create a load balanced solution similar to my NFS/autofs/sym link approach mentioned earlier. Bri- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
Hi, I can make the Linux NFS server choke with 10 clients and doing a dd of /dev/0 let alone rendering 30 procs. OK perhaps that's where we see a difference then. I am using NFS to mount from one server to another in a different location. So really there would only be one client then. I was dragging a lot of traffic back and forth between the two and it seemed stable but I cannot comment on lots of client connections. NFS ver # rpm -qa | grep nfs nfs-utils-0.3.3-5 async on/off and other export setting /etc/exports on server machine: /home/http x.x.x.x(rw,no_root_squash) /home/mail x.x.x.x(rw,no_root_squash) /etc/fstab on client machine: y.y.y.y:/home/http /home/http nfs rw,hard,intr,rsize=1024,wsize=1024 0 0 y.y.y.y:/home/mail /home/mail nfs rw,hard,intr,rsize=1024,wsize=1024 0 0 The reason for the rsize and wsize settings was a laser link was used between sites and one of the firewalls was preventing UDP fragments. anything else thats custom Straight out of the box RH 7.3 NFS -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^. | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Zordah IT /V\ | Mobile: +61 0414 724 766| | IT Consultancy /( )\ | WWW : www.zordah.net | | Internet Hosting ^^-^^ | ICQ : Zordah 81 | +-+-+ My current spamtrap address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which version of RedHat for production systems
I disagree. I am currently using RH7.3 and NFS in production servers and it is running VERY well. I second this, I haven't had any of the problems that you speak of ! Aly. Aly S.P Dharshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student and System Administrator ORS Servers A good speech is like a good dress that's short enough to be interesting and long enough to cover the subject -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Reply: New version of redhat / upgrading KDE (howto) - newbie can use help on this!
yes, I have seen the website and seen the announcement about KDE 3.0.3. but the reason why I haven't upgraded is because I don't know how. I've read the FAQ and the installation readme but I can't get it to work correctly. I know I only need ...base, libs and the othe files listed there... But do I need to goto the command line interface (shutting down KDE) [I'm not sure on the command]? Do certain files get compiled before others? Is it done with one command or do you have to compile each seperately? Ok, I know I'm an idiot but Ive never done that before, ok? All I need is a little help IF there is anybody who can help me out. please reply to this or email me directly maybee you could walk me through it, tell me where a good guide is, or tell me what Im doing wrong. I would appreciate any help at all! Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Question about the new version of Redhat
I know there is a new version in the works for redhat and that they are updating gnome in this one but are they also upgrading KDE?? Ive heard a few rumours that KDE 3 is not very stable and there is no updates for it so I was wondering if they are going to fix this!?!?! If you have a webpage with some other update lists. (The main programs/features) I would appreciate it if you could send it my way Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Question about the new version of Redhat
kde v3.03 is available now and includes a bunch of bugfixes. check out the press release here: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.0.3.html _ daniel a. g. quinn starving programmer do we have to pick sides in the end? - ali hossaini, writer in reaction to growing racial unrest in the United states since 2001/09/11 - Original Message - Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:37 AM Subject: Question about the new version of Redhat | I know there is a new version in the works for redhat and that they are | updating gnome in this one but are they also upgrading KDE?? | Ive heard a few rumours that KDE 3 is not very stable and there is no | updates for it so I was wondering if they are going to fix this!?!?! | | If you have a webpage with some other update lists. (The main | programs/features) I would appreciate it if you could send it my way | | Thanks | | | | -- | redhat-list mailing list | unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe | https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list | -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Question about the new version of Redhat
On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 07:37, Geoffrey Lane wrote: I know there is a new version in the works for redhat and that they are updating gnome in this one but are they also upgrading KDE?? Ive heard a few rumours that KDE 3 is not very stable and there is no updates for it so I was wondering if they are going to fix this!?!?! If you have a webpage with some other update lists. (The main programs/features) I would appreciate it if you could send it my way Thanks That's completely wrong. KDE is stable and there are updates beyond 3.0. In fact 3.0.3 was released just this morning. Visit http://www.kde.org for more info on what I consider the best GUI for Linux. You don't see much support for KDE in the Redhat community per se because Redhat supports Gnome as an institution... but KDE is really, truly a slick GUI. Check it out. Anthony -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Upgrade version to Redhat 7.3
Now I have a Pcthat it works correctly partitioning in the following mode : Windows XP 49 G.Byte (Fat 32) Linux (Redhat 7.0)7.7 G.Byte (EXT2) Linux Swap258 Mbyte At the boot of the PC, if I put floppy disk start Linux ( Redhat 7.0) with Lilo, otherwise if I do not put the floppy disk, at the boot of the PC starts Windows XP. The question is the following : How do you do to install the new version of Redhat 7.3 including three CDROM without to damage Windows XP operating System and without problem of boot at the starting of the PC. MY ADDRESS EMAIL is : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please, can you send me exact procedure (step to step) or accurate information for a good installation. Best Regards
version of redhat
how do you find out the version of redhat if your /etc/issue is erased.? ? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: version of redhat
Sitat Steve Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how do you find out the version of redhat if your /etc/issue is erased.? ? cat /etc/issue.net -- Mvh Ragnar Wisløff -- life is a reach. then you gybe. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: version of redhat
/etc/issue is created on every boot. ( /etc/rc.d/rc.local ) cat /etc/redhat-release More importantly, have you forgotten what version you have installed? On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Steve Lee wrote: how do you find out the version of redhat if your /etc/issue is erased.? ? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: version of redhat
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:09:16AM -0800, Steve Lee wrote: how do you find out the version of redhat if your /etc/issue is erased.? ? cat /etc/redhat-release rpm -q redhat-release -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: version of redhat
thanks. no, just a standard at work that they comment out /etc/issue.net i also did a cat /pro/versions but it didn't tell me the redhat release. On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Ed Wilts wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:09:16AM -0800, Steve Lee wrote: how do you find out the version of redhat if your /etc/issue is erased.? ? cat /etc/redhat-release rpm -q redhat-release ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: version of redhat
i also did a cat /pro/versions but it didn't tell me the redhat release. /proc/version is the kernel version info. Since this is generated by the kernel itself, it has no concept of what a distribution really is. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: version of redhat
/etc/redhat-release, or rpm -q redhat-release On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Steve Lee wrote: how do you find out the version of redhat if your /etc/issue is erased.? ? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
