Re: Writing/displaying output from full_analysis.py

2008-11-05 Thread Tyler Reddy
For the sequence input file I think you want Spin_Name to be N if this is 15N
relaxation data. I'm also thinking it's not a bad idea to update to the latest
build of relax using subversion (can easily find/download this software via
google). This looks vaguely similar to some of the problems Edward had 
debugged
for me, so probably worth the time to update if you're going to use this
script.

The command to execute in the relax directory would be:

svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/relax/1.3 relax-1.3

And then a newer version of relax is put in a nested folder in the relax
directory. You want to make sure that the system path refers to the 
newer build
of relax instead of the one you originally downloaded. When you type 
'relax' it
should say something like 'system repository checkout' instead of 'relax
1.3.2.'

So the new directory would be ../relax-1.3.2/relax-1.3

Edward will probably have a more effective response, but this stuff will
probably prevent other problems in any case.

Tyler


Quoting Brosey, Chris A [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Greetings,

 I have encountered a problem running the script full_analysis.py 
 using v1.3.2 of relax (and python v2.5).  I am currently executing 
 the script with the MI option (DIFF_MODEL = ‘local_tm’).  I find that 
 the script successfully reads in data files and carries out the grid 
 search and minimization specified under the multi_model function for 
 the very first ‘tm0’ model.  However, it appears that there is a 
 problem executing the final command of the function – writing the 
 results to an output file (see reproduction of log file and traceback 
 below).  The proper directory and file are created, but the ‘results’ 
 file remains empty; and the script returns the error message 
 'IndexError: list index out of range'.

 I obtain the same error using various formatted versions of my own 
 data files, as well as the test data files found in 
 /test_suite/shared_data/model_free/S2_0….0.149/, modified to include 
 None for data values of GLY 1.  Running multi_model commands manually 
 through the relax prompt also returns the same error for both 
 'results.write' and 'results.display.'  I also obtain the same result 
 running the analysis with sample_scripts/model-free.py.

 I am new to python and the relax interface and apologize if I am 
 bringing up a very basic question.  I appreciate any help and 
 suggestions you might have.  Thanks!

 Regards,

 Chris


 Log File (edited)

 relax pipe.create(pipe_name='tm0', pipe_type='mf')

 relax sequence.read(file='noe.500.out', 
 dir='~/relax/relax-1.3.2/sample_scripts/data', mol_name_col=None, 
 res_num_col=0, res_name_col=1, spin_num_col=None, spin_name_col=None, 
 sep=None)
 Opening the file 
 '/home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2/sample_scripts/data/noe.500.out' 
 for reading.
 Mol_name   Res_numRes_name   Spin_num   Spin_name
 None   1  GLYNone   None
 None   2  ALANone   None

 relax relax_data.read(ri_label='R1', frq_label='500', 
 frq=50010.0, file='r1.500.out', 
 dir='~/relax/relax-1.3.2/sample_scripts/data', mol_name_col=None, 
 res_num_col=0, res_name_col=1, spin_num_col=None, spin_name_col=None, 
 data_col=2, error_col=3, sep=None)
 Opening the file 
 '/home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2/sample_scripts/data/r1.500.out' for 
 reading.

 #(A total of 6 relaxation files were read in).

 relax model_free.select_model(model='tm0', spin_id=None)

 relax grid_search(lower=None, upper=None, inc=11, constraints=True, 
 verbosity=1)

 relax minimise(*args=('newton',), func_tol=1e-25, 
 max_iterations=1000, constraints=True, scaling=True, verbosity=1)

 relax results.write(file='results', dir='local_tm/tm0', force=True, 
 format='xml', compress_type=1)
 Opening the file 'local_tm/tm0/results.bz2' for writing.


 Traceback Message

 77 sweet:/home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2% Traceback (most recent call last):
  File relax, line 410, in module
Relax()
  File relax, line 127, in __init__
self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
  File /home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2/prompt/interpreter.py, line 
 270, in run
return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local, 
 script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag, 
 show_script=self.__show_script, 
 raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
  File /home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2/prompt/interpreter.py, line 
 531, in run_script
return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit, 
 show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
  File /home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2/prompt/interpreter.py, line 
 427, in interact_script
execfile(script_file, local)
  File prompt/full_analysis2.py, line 668, in module
Main(self.relax)
  File prompt/full_analysis2.py, line 221, in __init__
self.multi_model(local_tm=True)
  File prompt/full_analysis2.py, line 664, in multi_model
results.write(file='results', dir=dir, force=True)
  File /home/broseyca/relax/relax-1.3.2/prompt/results.py, 

Re: Model-Free Results Output

2008-10-24 Thread Tyler Reddy
/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py,
line 987, in minimise
results = generic_minimise(func=self.mf.func, dfunc=self.mf.dfunc,
d2func=self.mf.d2func, args=(), x0=param_vector, min_algor=min_algor,
min_options=min_options, func_tol=func_tol, grad_tol=grad_tol,
maxiter=max_iterations, A=A, b=b, full_output=
ag=verbosity)
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/generic.py,
line 412, in generic_minimise
results = method_of_multipliers(func=func, dfunc=dfunc, d2func=d2func,
args=args, x0=x0, min_options=min_options, A=A, b=b, l=l, u=u, c=c, dc=dc,
d2c=d2c, func_tol=func_tol, grad_tol=grad_tol, maxiter=maxiter,
full_output=full_output, print_flag=
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/method_of_multipliers.py,
line 143, in method_of_multipliers
results = min.minimise()
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/method_of_multipliers.py,
line 403, in minimise
results = self.generic_minimise(func=self.func_LA, dfunc=self.func_dLA,
d2func=self.func_d2LA, args=self.args, x0=self.xk, min_algor=self.min_algor,
min_options=self.min_options, func_tol=None, grad_tol=self.tk, 
maxiter=maxiter,
full_output=1, pr
b_print_flag, print_prefix=\t)
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/generic.py,
line 343, in generic_minimise
results = newton(func=func, dfunc=dfunc, d2func=d2func, args=args, x0=x0,
min_options=min_options, func_tol=func_tol, grad_tol=grad_tol, 
maxiter=maxiter,
full_output=full_output, print_flag=print_flag, print_prefix=print_prefix)
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/newton.py,
line 44, in newton
results = min.minimise()
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/base_classes.py,
line 233, in minimise
self.new_param_func()
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/newton.py,
line 166, in new_param_func
self.line_search()
  File
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/base_classes.py,
line 339, in backline
self.alpha, fc = backtrack(self.func, self.args, self.xk, self.fk, 
self.dfk,
self.pk, a_init=self.a0)
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable










Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 :S  It overwrites a pre-existing file!  And the important script of
 all things!!!  That'll have to be fixed.  Seb, could you submit a bug
 report for that?

 Cheers,

 Edward


 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Sébastien Morin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh... Sorry... It's still early in the morning here (Quebec City)...

 ...

 Dont' forget to specify a log file...

 LOG   -   relax -l LOG script.py

 TEE   -   relax -t LOG script.py

 If you just specify the script, the script will be erased by the log...

 Cheers,


 Séb


 Sébastien Morin wrote:
 Hi Tyler,

 If you want all output from relax to go to a log file, use the option
 '-l'... (relax -l script.py)

 If you want all output from relax to go to a file AND the terminal
 (display), use the option '-t'... (relax -t script.py)

 These options are visible when typing : ./relax --help  (or relax -h)

 Good luck !


 Séb  :)



 Tyler Reddy wrote:

 Okay, I submitted the report. Let me know if there's more 
 information you need
 or a better way to submit bug reports in general.. haven't done 
 this before.
 Also, I had to manually copy/paste the output, and while it looks fine, if
 there is a problem with the same pdb structure getting read twice 
 or something
 that's probably just my pasting error from the unix terminal to 
 the browser.

 On that note, how can I fix this command:

 relax full_analysis.py  STDOUT.txt 2 STDERR.txt
 tcsh: Ambiguous output redirect.

 Or better yet, can I merge all the output streams to a single text 
 file and
 display the output in the terminal at the same time as well (maybe 
 I'm getting
 too ambitious there..)?

 Also, I do get the same output for 'ellipsoid' as well, as Seb asked.

 Yours,

 Tyler


 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 Hi,

 This issue looks like a problem with the loaded PDB structure.  The
 'local_tm' and 'sphere' optimisations do not utilise structural
 information, but the 'oblate' and 'prolate' spheroids, and the
 'ellipsoid' all require this info.  Normally relax will catch this
 problem and deselect the spins without XH bond vectors, but this seems
 to be broken in the 1.3 versions hence you get the original cryptic
 Python error.  As this is a real bug with the relax source code (and
 not a yet-to-be converted feature or a sample script), would you be
 able to submit a bug report for this issue?  The relax bug tracker is
 located at https://gna.org/bugs/?group=relax and the link at
 https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additemgroup=relax allows you to create

Re: Model-Free Results Output

2008-10-23 Thread Tyler Reddy
The aic results file should be attached to the bug report. It looks like it's
there when I check it.

Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I've tried the PDB file and it seems to be fine.  There are no strange
 formatting issues there.  Therefore it is caused by the loaded
 'local_tm/aic/results.bz2' file which is somehow not matching the
 loading of the PDB file.  Unfortunately I can't work out what is
 causing the XH bond vectors from the PDB file to not be extracted.
 This is what the loading of vectors should look like:

 relax structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
 struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
 Extracting vectors from the single structure.
 Calculating the unit vectors.
 The attached atom is a proton.

 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':13' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':14' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':15' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.


 These are the messages from one of the system tests.  Note the
 Extracted N-H vectors for lines which are missing from your
 printout.  By using the following commands in relax:

 pipe.create(pipe_name='ellipsoid', pipe_type='mf')
 structure.read_pdb(file='PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb', dir=None,
 model=None, parser='scientific')
 structure.load_spins()
 structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None, struct_index=None,
 verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)


 I get the following print out from the last user function:

 relax structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
 struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
 Extracting vectors from the single structure.
 Calculating the unit vectors.
 The attached atom is a proton.

 Extracted N-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted CA-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CA'.
 Extracted C-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@C'.
 Extracted O-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@O'.
 Extracted CB-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CB'.
 Extracted CG-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CG'.
 Extracted CD1-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CD1'.
 Extracted CD2-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CD2'.
 RelaxWarning: The XH bond vector for residue '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@H' is of 
 zero length.
 Extracted H-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@H'.
 Extracted HA-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HA'.
 Extracted HB2-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HB2'.
 Extracted HB3-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HB3'.
 Extracted HG-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HG'.
 Extracted HD11-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HD11'.
 Extracted HD12-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HD12'.
 Extracted HD13-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HD13'.
 Extracted HD21-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HD21'.
 Extracted HD22-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HD22'.
 Extracted HD23-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@HD23'.


 Obviously some of these vectors are a bit strange, but this test shows
 that there is no problem extracting them from your PDB file.
 Therefore I think I'd need the loaded results file (truncated and
 randomised if you wish) to be able to identify the problem.

 Regards,

 Edward


 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, I submitted the report. Let me know if there's more information you
 need
 or a better way to submit bug reports in general.. haven't done this before.
 Also, I had to manually copy/paste the output, and while it looks fine, if
 there is a problem with the same pdb structure getting read twice or
 something
 that's probably just my pasting error from the unix terminal to the browser.

 On that note, how can I fix this command:

 relax full_analysis.py  STDOUT.txt 2 STDERR.txt
 tcsh: Ambiguous output redirect.

 Or better yet, can I merge all the output streams to a single text file and
 display the output in the terminal at the same time as well (maybe I'm
 getting
 too ambitious there..)?

 Also, I do get the same output for 'ellipsoid' as well, as Seb asked.

 Yours,

 Tyler


 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Model-Free Results Output

2008-10-23 Thread Tyler Reddy
Ok, I updated to the latest build and made the adjustment. Presumably 
since the
heteronucleus is set to 'N', 'H' is enough info for that column in the 
sequence
file? It's working now for 'prolate' in any case.

I see that you can change the bug report display to show 'closed' 
reports, sorry
about that!

Tyler


Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ok, one bug is because of the HETNUC variable.  It is set twice.  The
 first should be renamed, but I'll worry about that later.  The real
 reason is because you need to name the spins.  This can be done by
 setting the spin_name column of the file containing the sequence to
 the PDB atom name.  I will also modify the script to use the first
 HETNUC value to set the spin name if not set by the sequence file.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, go ahead. Also, you closed the bug report so I can't actually attach
 the
 file to it. I'll try attaching the full_analysis.py script to this message..
 hopefully the mailing list allows that.

 Tyler

 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Right, got it and can reproduce the bug.  I think I know what the
 issue is, but would you be able to attach the full_analysis.py script
 to the bug report so I can confirm it?  Well, actually there are
 probably two issues, the first being a problem with the full analysis
 script not setting the spin names (hence it can't find the unnamed
 atoms in the PDB file) and the second is that relax isn't catching
 this.  Also, would it be ok if I added the truncated results.bz2 and
 PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb files to the relax test suite?  This will
 allow me to fix the second issue (for the first, the full_analysis.py
 script needs checking).

 Cheers,

 Edward


 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The aic results file should be attached to the bug report. It looks like
 it's
 there when I check it.

 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I've tried the PDB file and it seems to be fine.  There are no strange
 formatting issues there.  Therefore it is caused by the loaded
 'local_tm/aic/results.bz2' file which is somehow not matching the
 loading of the PDB file.  Unfortunately I can't work out what is
 causing the XH bond vectors from the PDB file to not be extracted.
 This is what the loading of vectors should look like:

 relax structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
 struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
 Extracting vectors from the single structure.
 Calculating the unit vectors.
 The attached atom is a proton.

 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':13' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':14' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':15' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.


 These are the messages from one of the system tests.  Note the
 Extracted N-H vectors for lines which are missing from your
 printout.  By using the following commands in relax:

 pipe.create(pipe_name='ellipsoid', pipe_type='mf')
 structure.read_pdb(file='PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb', dir=None,
 model=None, parser='scientific')
 structure.load_spins()
 structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None, struct_index=None,
 verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)


 I get the following print out from the last user function:

 relax structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
 struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
 Extracting vectors from the single structure.
 Calculating the unit vectors.
 The attached atom is a proton.

 Extracted N-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted CA-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CA'.
 Extracted C-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@C'.
 Extracted O-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@O'.
 Extracted CB-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CB'.
 Extracted CG-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CG'.
 Extracted CD1-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CD1'.
 Extracted CD2-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CD2'.
 RelaxWarning: The XH bond vector for residue

Re: Model-Free Results Output

2008-10-23 Thread Tyler Reddy
Maybe I need to use 'N' for the spin_name column because the extracted 
vector is
H-H, which is very weird. It took 10 rounds for the 'prolate' script to
converge:

RelaxWarning: The XH bond vector for residue ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is of zero 
length.
Extracted H-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.



Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ok, one bug is because of the HETNUC variable.  It is set twice.  The
 first should be renamed, but I'll worry about that later.  The real
 reason is because you need to name the spins.  This can be done by
 setting the spin_name column of the file containing the sequence to
 the PDB atom name.  I will also modify the script to use the first
 HETNUC value to set the spin name if not set by the sequence file.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, go ahead. Also, you closed the bug report so I can't actually attach
 the
 file to it. I'll try attaching the full_analysis.py script to this message..
 hopefully the mailing list allows that.

 Tyler

 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Right, got it and can reproduce the bug.  I think I know what the
 issue is, but would you be able to attach the full_analysis.py script
 to the bug report so I can confirm it?  Well, actually there are
 probably two issues, the first being a problem with the full analysis
 script not setting the spin names (hence it can't find the unnamed
 atoms in the PDB file) and the second is that relax isn't catching
 this.  Also, would it be ok if I added the truncated results.bz2 and
 PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb files to the relax test suite?  This will
 allow me to fix the second issue (for the first, the full_analysis.py
 script needs checking).

 Cheers,

 Edward


 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The aic results file should be attached to the bug report. It looks like
 it's
 there when I check it.

 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I've tried the PDB file and it seems to be fine.  There are no strange
 formatting issues there.  Therefore it is caused by the loaded
 'local_tm/aic/results.bz2' file which is somehow not matching the
 loading of the PDB file.  Unfortunately I can't work out what is
 causing the XH bond vectors from the PDB file to not be extracted.
 This is what the loading of vectors should look like:

 relax structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
 struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
 Extracting vectors from the single structure.
 Calculating the unit vectors.
 The attached atom is a proton.

 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]@N').
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':13' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':14' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
 RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
 ':15' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.


 These are the messages from one of the system tests.  Note the
 Extracted N-H vectors for lines which are missing from your
 printout.  By using the following commands in relax:

 pipe.create(pipe_name='ellipsoid', pipe_type='mf')
 structure.read_pdb(file='PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb', dir=None,
 model=None, parser='scientific')
 structure.load_spins()
 structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None, struct_index=None,
 verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)


 I get the following print out from the last user function:

 relax structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
 struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
 Extracting vectors from the single structure.
 Calculating the unit vectors.
 The attached atom is a proton.

 Extracted N-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@N'.
 Extracted CA-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CA'.
 Extracted C-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@C'.
 Extracted O-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@O'.
 Extracted CB-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CB'.
 Extracted CG-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CG'.
 Extracted CD1-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CD1'.
 Extracted CD2-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@CD2'.
 RelaxWarning: The XH bond vector for residue '#A:[EMAIL

Re: Model-Free Results Output

2008-10-22 Thread Tyler Reddy
Okay, I submitted the report. Let me know if there's more information you need
or a better way to submit bug reports in general.. haven't done this before.
Also, I had to manually copy/paste the output, and while it looks fine, if
there is a problem with the same pdb structure getting read twice or something
that's probably just my pasting error from the unix terminal to the browser.

On that note, how can I fix this command:

relax full_analysis.py  STDOUT.txt 2 STDERR.txt
tcsh: Ambiguous output redirect.

Or better yet, can I merge all the output streams to a single text file and
display the output in the terminal at the same time as well (maybe I'm getting
too ambitious there..)?

Also, I do get the same output for 'ellipsoid' as well, as Seb asked.

Yours,

Tyler


Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 This issue looks like a problem with the loaded PDB structure.  The
 'local_tm' and 'sphere' optimisations do not utilise structural
 information, but the 'oblate' and 'prolate' spheroids, and the
 'ellipsoid' all require this info.  Normally relax will catch this
 problem and deselect the spins without XH bond vectors, but this seems
 to be broken in the 1.3 versions hence you get the original cryptic
 Python error.  As this is a real bug with the relax source code (and
 not a yet-to-be converted feature or a sample script), would you be
 able to submit a bug report for this issue?  The relax bug tracker is
 located at https://gna.org/bugs/?group=relax and the link at
 https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additemgroup=relax allows you to create a
 report.  That would be much appreciated.

 The bug report will be useful for having this error caught by the
 relax test suite - if I can replicate the bug there then I can play
 with the bug and fix it.  Note the the actual problem occurred earlier
 starting with the loading of the PDB file at the structure.read_pdb()
 user function.  So if you could include all print out from that user
 function to the end of the traceback error message, that would be very
 useful.

 Cheers,

 Edward


 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Seb,

 I just tested 'oblate' and it produces the same error output.

 Tyler


 Quoting Sébastien Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Tyler,

 Do you get the same error when trying the 'oblate' or 'ellipsoid'
 diffusion tensors ?


 Sébastien


 Tyler Reddy wrote:
 I'm having an issue with the full_analysis.py script. It seems to work
 fine when
 DIFF_MODEL = 'local_tm' or 'sphere' (converges on 4th round) but for
 'prolate'
 I get the following output:

 Grid search
 ~~~

 Searching the grid.
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax, line 408, in module
 Relax()
   File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax, line 125, in __init__
 self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
   File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py,
 line 270, in
 run
 return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
 script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag,
 show_script=self.__show_script,
 raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_er
   File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py,
 line 531, in
 run_script
 return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
 show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
   File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py,
 line 427, in
 interact_script
 execfile(script_file, local)
   File full_analysis.py, line 673, in module
 Main(self.relax)
   File full_analysis.py, line 284, in __init__
 grid_search(inc=inc)
   File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/minimisation.py,
 line 152,
 in grid_search
 minimise.grid_search(lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc,
 constraints=constraints, verbosity=verbosity)
   File
 /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/generic_fns/minimise.py, line
 185,
 in grid_search
 grid_search(lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc, 
 constraints=constraints,
 verbosity=verbosity)
   File
 /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py,
 line 479, in grid_search
 self.minimise(min_algor='grid', lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc,
 constraints=constraints, verbosity=verbosity, sim_index=sim_index)
   File
 /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py,
 line 987, in minimise
 results = generic_minimise(func=self.mf.func, dfunc=self.mf.dfunc,
 d2func=self.mf.d2func, args=(), x0=param_vector, min_algor=min_algor,
 min_options=min_options, func_tol=func_tol, g
 l, maxiter=max_iterations, A=A, b=b, full_output=1, print_flag=verbosity)
   File
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/generic.py,
 line 319, in generic_minimise
 xk, fk, k = grid(func=func, args=args, grid_ops=min_options,
 A=A, b=b, l=l,
 u=u, c=c, print_flag=print_flag)
   File
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib

Re: Relax_fit.py problem

2008-10-15 Thread Tyler Reddy
Hi,

I'll try to dig up those references. The other thing I find confusing is that
some groups use the curve fit error for the parameters. So, the errors in R1
and R2 per residue are actually from the nonlinear curve fitting process
itself. In theory, if there is no error in peak height then the fit is 
perfect.
So I wonder if there is yet another relationship to think about if you want to
use those values?!

I have these values already for T1 and T2 parameters and their curve fitting
errors (though I haven't figured out how to propagate these errors to the
reciprocal rate constants, or if that will even be meaningful), but I'm not
sure how they compare to the other 2 'error types' we are talking about.

Certainly, S/N = peak height/RMS baseline noise  (From Cavanagh textbook)

And while there are many references that throw around the sqrt(2) in various
equations, I haven't seen a comprehensive explanation yet.

Tyler




Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 That was the reference I used many years ago when I first added these
 abilities to relax.  The text is a little confusing, but the important
 line is the first of that paragraph you mention:

 The uncertainties in the measured peak heights, sigma_h, were set
 equal to the root-mean-square baseline noise in the spectra.

 So if one looks at the code in relax, there is no multiplication by
 sqrt(2).  As this was a long time ago, I'm not sure if this is the
 most correct approach.  The confusing chi-squared tests between the
 sigma_h and sqrt(2)*sigma_h may not statistically significant but
 considering that the parameter number is identical in both cases, the
 weighting constant simply changes, then no statistically significant
 difference doesn't mean that one weight is better than the other or
 that both weights are correct.

 There is another early reference (or two) in which the NOE error
 formula is given.  I think that may have more information, but I'm
 struggling to remember what that reference is and cannot find it at
 the moment.  And there may be more recent papers performing a much
 more thorough noise analysis.  It could even be done using synthetic
 spectra with white noise added (I recently did this to test the effect
 of white noise on the uncertainty in peak chemical shift position to
 validate Ad Bax's RDC error formula LW/SN - strangely the results were
 far more complex than this formula).

 There is a bit of time to find the correct baseplane RMSD to peak
 height uncertainty as I need to wait for Sebastien to finish the work
 with the loading of NMRView (as well as Sparky and XEasy) peak list
 intensities.  The rearrangements I plan to do will affect the code he
 is working on.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Edward,

 Palmer et al. (1991) JACS. 113: 4371-4380 is a nice reference for the error
 conversion. It looks like the value for standard deviation between peaks in
 paired spectra is sqrt(2) multiplied by the base plane RMS value (in
 particular, see the short paragraph at the top right of page 4375 in this
 manuscript). However, the authors seem to use the base plane RMS values
 regardless, and then verify that the qualitative conclusions do not change
 when
 using the more conservative error estimates (i.e. multiplying by 1.4).

 There's an extensive discussion of using chi-square critical values to
 verify
 the validity of this relationship between the noise types, though I must
 concede that I don't grasp all the details after the first reading.

 Tyler


 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 There are three ways that an error analysis can be done for relaxation
 curve fitting, although one of those is only partly implemented in
 relax at the moment (that means it won't work until I write some
 computer code).  These are:

 1.  Collect all spectra in duplicate, triplicate, or more if you
 really have lot of NMR time to kill, for absolutely no reason.  The
 peak intensity error for a single spin is calculated as the standard
 deviation for each peak.  Because this is inaccurate for a low replica
 number, this error is averaged for all peaks to give one error per
 spectrum.  This error is then used in the Monte Carlo simulations.

 2.  If only some spectra are duplicated, then the average of the
 errors for all spectra is calculated.  This gives a single error value
 for all spins and all spectra.  This is then used in the Monte Carlo
 simulations.

 3.  This is the error analysis technique which is not fully
 implemented yet.  If no spectra are recorded in duplicate, then one
 needs to use the RMSD of the base plane noise.  This is similar to
 what relax uses for the NOE analysis (hence shouldn't be too hard to
 implement for relaxation curve fitting).  I would need to find the
 reference, but I think this value needs to be divided or multiplied by
 root 2 to convert it to a peak height uncertainty.  Does anyone know

Re: Relax_fit.py problem

2008-10-15 Thread Tyler Reddy
Hey,

Farrow et al. (1994) Biochemistry, 33: 5984-6003 also draw a similar 
conclusion
(paragraph starting at bottom left of p. 5988) and apply the RMS value of the
noise as an estimate of the standard deviation of peak intensity. If I'm not
mistaken this is the exact assumption made by relax for steady-state NOE error
propagation by the sum of squares equation from this paper as well.

Also of interest on p. 5988,

The distribution of the difference in intensities of identical peaks in
duplicate spectra should have a standard deviation [sqrt(2)] times 
greater than
the standard deviation of the individual peaks.

They again conclude that duplicate and RMS baseline data errors are consistent
within those bounds. If the Kay and Palmer labs are going with this conclusion
(even if it doesn't really tell us which error is more appropriate), it seems
like it's a good bet that you can estimate standard deviation this way.

However, I'm sill not clear on the relationship between curve fit 
errors and the
errors measured directly from the spectra. I'm not sure how the nonlinear
fitting error factors in for relax R1, R2 curve-fitting scripts. Certainly, if
curve-fit error alone could be used that would make things easier since no
error measurement on the T1/T2 experiment spectra would be needed, you could
just dump the peak heights to relax.

Tyler




Quoting Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I'll try to dig up those references. The other thing I find confusing is that
 some groups use the curve fit error for the parameters. So, the errors in R1
 and R2 per residue are actually from the nonlinear curve fitting process
 itself. In theory, if there is no error in peak height then the fit is
 perfect.
 So I wonder if there is yet another relationship to think about if 
 you want to
 use those values?!

 I have these values already for T1 and T2 parameters and their curve fitting
 errors (though I haven't figured out how to propagate these errors to the
 reciprocal rate constants, or if that will even be meaningful), but I'm not
 sure how they compare to the other 2 'error types' we are talking about.

 Certainly, S/N = peak height/RMS baseline noise  (From Cavanagh textbook)

 And while there are many references that throw around the sqrt(2) in various
 equations, I haven't seen a comprehensive explanation yet.

 Tyler




 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 That was the reference I used many years ago when I first added these
 abilities to relax.  The text is a little confusing, but the important
 line is the first of that paragraph you mention:

 The uncertainties in the measured peak heights, sigma_h, were set
 equal to the root-mean-square baseline noise in the spectra.

 So if one looks at the code in relax, there is no multiplication by
 sqrt(2).  As this was a long time ago, I'm not sure if this is the
 most correct approach.  The confusing chi-squared tests between the
 sigma_h and sqrt(2)*sigma_h may not statistically significant but
 considering that the parameter number is identical in both cases, the
 weighting constant simply changes, then no statistically significant
 difference doesn't mean that one weight is better than the other or
 that both weights are correct.

 There is another early reference (or two) in which the NOE error
 formula is given.  I think that may have more information, but I'm
 struggling to remember what that reference is and cannot find it at
 the moment.  And there may be more recent papers performing a much
 more thorough noise analysis.  It could even be done using synthetic
 spectra with white noise added (I recently did this to test the effect
 of white noise on the uncertainty in peak chemical shift position to
 validate Ad Bax's RDC error formula LW/SN - strangely the results were
 far more complex than this formula).

 There is a bit of time to find the correct baseplane RMSD to peak
 height uncertainty as I need to wait for Sebastien to finish the work
 with the loading of NMRView (as well as Sparky and XEasy) peak list
 intensities.  The rearrangements I plan to do will affect the code he
 is working on.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Edward,

 Palmer et al. (1991) JACS. 113: 4371-4380 is a nice reference for the error
 conversion. It looks like the value for standard deviation between peaks in
 paired spectra is sqrt(2) multiplied by the base plane RMS value (in
 particular, see the short paragraph at the top right of page 4375 in this
 manuscript). However, the authors seem to use the base plane RMS values
 regardless, and then verify that the qualitative conclusions do not change
 when
 using the more conservative error estimates (i.e. multiplying by 1.4).

 There's an extensive discussion of using chi-square critical values to
 verify
 the validity of this relationship between the noise types, though I must
 concede that I don't grasp all the details after the first reading

Re: Relax_fit.py problem

2008-10-15 Thread Tyler Reddy
Okay, so I'll basically just need to get the rms noise (NOT S/N) for my T1 and
T2 spectra at various fields. I've been using S/N values for the NOE
calculations so that explains why those errors seemed so large. I'd like to
find a reference for the rms equation which seems to be:

[sqrt(2)]*(baseline noise height)/4

Ignoring the stuff with duplicate spectra, it's actually a rather nice 
situation
with only peak height and baseline noise height being the information required
for the calculation of NOE, R1, R2, and the propagation of their respective
errors. Presumably this would then be enough to begin the model-free analysis
in relax?

Tyler



Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,

 Farrow et al. (1994) Biochemistry, 33: 5984-6003 also draw a similar
 conclusion
 (paragraph starting at bottom left of p. 5988) and apply the RMS value of
 the
 noise as an estimate of the standard deviation of peak intensity. If I'm not
 mistaken this is the exact assumption made by relax for steady-state NOE
 error
 propagation by the sum of squares equation from this paper as well.

 That is another reference I am very familiar with.  It influenced my
 choice of not using the sqrt(2) factor for the NOE.  And there is the
 NOE error equation I used!  There is another publication which has
 this equation, but in quite a different form (it almost looks like a
 different equation).  It's also given in general form at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_propagation as the variance of the
 ratio of two random variables.


 Also of interest on p. 5988,

 The distribution of the difference in intensities of identical peaks in
 duplicate spectra should have a standard deviation [sqrt(2)] times greater
 than
 the standard deviation of the individual peaks.

 I'll have to check the source code, but from memory this factor was
 not used when using duplicate spectra.  Let me see...  Ok, relax is
 not dividing by sqrt(2) when calculating one error value from a
 duplicated spectrum.  I have to think about this because relax is not
 calculating the standard deviation of a distribution of differences,
 as talked about in Palmer et al., 1991 and Farrow et al., 1994.  It's
 calculating the population standard deviation for each spin - this
 allows for triplicate spectra - and averaging this value for all
 spins.  It's all described in the relax_fit.mean_and_error() user
 function documentation.

 I think this may not be the correct method and that this needs more
 investigation!  relax is averaging the standard deviations whereas I
 think that in reality we should be averaging the variances (the square
 root of the sum of squared standard deviations).  This should occur
 for the single duplicated (or triplicated) spectrum and for the
 averaging across all spectra when not all are in duplicate.  This
 might be seen as R1 and R2 error differences between relax and Art
 Palmer's curvefit program, although Jackknife vs. Monte Carlo
 simulation differences are also present.


 They again conclude that duplicate and RMS baseline data errors are
 consistent
 within those bounds. If the Kay and Palmer labs are going with this
 conclusion
 (even if it doesn't really tell us which error is more appropriate), it
 seems
 like it's a good bet that you can estimate standard deviation this way.

 For base plane RMSD, this is what the NOE is doing and what the new
 code will do for the relaxation curve fitting.  I think I need to
 revisit the statistics of the duplicated spectra though.


 However, I'm sill not clear on the relationship between curve fit errors and
 the
 errors measured directly from the spectra. I'm not sure how the nonlinear
 fitting error factors in for relax R1, R2 curve-fitting scripts. Certainly,
 if
 curve-fit error alone could be used that would make things easier since no
 error measurement on the T1/T2 experiment spectra would be needed, you could
 just dump the peak heights to relax.

 It could be used, but it is less accurate and much more work to
 implement.  Monte Carlo simulations are the gold standard for error
 propagation in non-linear problems.  A reference is
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_propagation#Caveats_and_warnings,
 but this description of the problem is technical and not very good.
 Wikipedia's description of error propagation is interesting, but is
 missing the descriptions of using the covariance matrix, Jackknife
 simulations, Bootstrapping simulations, and Monte Carlo simulations
 (these are the main techniques, but others exist).  The Numerical
 Receipes book is much clearer on the subject.

 Regards,

 Edward





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Re: Relax_fit.py problem

2008-10-13 Thread Tyler Reddy
Hi Edward,

Palmer et al. (1991) JACS. 113: 4371-4380 is a nice reference for the error
conversion. It looks like the value for standard deviation between peaks in
paired spectra is sqrt(2) multiplied by the base plane RMS value (in
particular, see the short paragraph at the top right of page 4375 in this
manuscript). However, the authors seem to use the base plane RMS values
regardless, and then verify that the qualitative conclusions do not 
change when
using the more conservative error estimates (i.e. multiplying by 1.4).

There's an extensive discussion of using chi-square critical values to verify
the validity of this relationship between the noise types, though I must
concede that I don't grasp all the details after the first reading.

Tyler


Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 There are three ways that an error analysis can be done for relaxation
 curve fitting, although one of those is only partly implemented in
 relax at the moment (that means it won't work until I write some
 computer code).  These are:

 1.  Collect all spectra in duplicate, triplicate, or more if you
 really have lot of NMR time to kill, for absolutely no reason.  The
 peak intensity error for a single spin is calculated as the standard
 deviation for each peak.  Because this is inaccurate for a low replica
 number, this error is averaged for all peaks to give one error per
 spectrum.  This error is then used in the Monte Carlo simulations.

 2.  If only some spectra are duplicated, then the average of the
 errors for all spectra is calculated.  This gives a single error value
 for all spins and all spectra.  This is then used in the Monte Carlo
 simulations.

 3.  This is the error analysis technique which is not fully
 implemented yet.  If no spectra are recorded in duplicate, then one
 needs to use the RMSD of the base plane noise.  This is similar to
 what relax uses for the NOE analysis (hence shouldn't be too hard to
 implement for relaxation curve fitting).  I would need to find the
 reference, but I think this value needs to be divided or multiplied by
 root 2 to convert it to a peak height uncertainty.  Does anyone know a
 reference for this?  Then a separate error value for all spins and all
 spectra can be used in the Monte Carlo simulations.

 Wei Xia has recently asked the same question
 (https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2008-09/msg0.html).  It
 might be worth reading my reply at
 https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2008-09/msg2.html.  So
 this feature will be added to relax, but the question is how long will
 that take.  I'd first need the error conversion factor from RMSD of
 base plane noise to peak height, and then add the ability to use the
 RMSD value in relaxation curve fitting.  The first part will be the
 hardest, but you'll need that to do a proper Monte Carlo simulation
 error analysis for the curve fitting.  To do the second part I would
 set up a mini analysis, lets call it a 'system test' because it tests
 the system - relax - to see if the analysis works, and then make this
 system test pass - i.e. implement the feature.

 Don't forget that the errors in a complex analysis (e.g model-free and
 reduced spectral density mapping) are just as important as the values
 themselves, if not more.  Getting these wrong will really damage
 optimisation, model selection, and error propagation to the final
 parameters via Monte Carlo simulations.  So both your model-free
 values and errors will be incorrect.

 Regards,

 Edward


 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 It seems that Relax_fit.py requires replicate data because average 
 and standard
 deviation values are used downstream in the analysis. With no replicate data
 (since I don't have any) the output is shown below. Also, commenting out the
 average and error propagation across multiple spectra

 #relax_fit.mean_and_error()

 doesn't work either, and I get another error output that is looking for an
 averaged value. I'll probably try using a duplicate data set to 
 circumvent this
 for now (unless this is actually another problem).

 Tyler

 Output:

 relax relax_fit.mean_and_error()

 Calculating the average intensity and standard deviation of all spectra.

 Time point:  0.01 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 0:  0.0

 Time point:  0.050003 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 1:  0.0

 Time point:  0.10001 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 2:  0.0

 Time point:  0.20001 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 3:  0.0

 Time point:  0.2 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 4:  0.0

 Time point:  0.5 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 5:  0.0

 Time point:  0.80004 s
 Number of spectra:  1
 Standard deviation for time point 6:  0.0
 Traceback (most recent call last

Re: Difficulty with noe.py sample script

2008-10-08 Thread Tyler Reddy
Of the suggested solutions only installing 1.2.12 and running noe.py from that
actually seems to work. I installed a Mac OS X binary version of SVN, and it
seemed to work just fine, but maybe there's another build step or something I
don't know about after using the commands outlined below. Anyways, the
steady-state NOE values from relax match perfectly with the parallel
calculations in excel, so that's good.

Tyler

Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I've now found and fixed the bug in the 1.2 relax line (see
 https://gna.org/bugs/?12418).  I will release relax 1.2.15 with this
 fix soonish, but please be patient as it takes up to 6 solid hours to
 do a release.  If you can't wait, you have two alternatives.  The best
 would be to use the subversion program to get the most up-to-date copy
 of the 1.2 relax line by typing:

 $ svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/relax/1.2 relax-1.2

 or if this doesn't work:

 $ svn co http://svn.gna.org/svn/relax/1.2 relax-1.2

 Otherwise you could download and use relax.1.2.12.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Edward d'Auvergne
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Edward,

 Thanks for your continued patience.

 That's okay, it's not a problem.


 Okay, it seems that aligning the data height column by the left most digit
 rather than the right most digit is not tolerated. Now the script (1.2)
 almost
 gets to the end, but there is still an error output, where the 
 program opens
 noe.out for writing (see below). The noe.out file is created, but it's
 blank.
 Assuming I can get functional input for the 1.2 version (which is supposed
 to
 work), if this input doesn't work for the 1.3 version I'm happy to submit
 the
 bug report at that stage.

 relax simply splits the text file by whitespace so alignment is only
 an issue if columns fuse.  I think there is another issue somewhere.
 I've tried the analysis with some of my old data, but I get the
 following error:

 relax calc(run='noe', print_flag=1)

 relax value.write(run='noe', param='noe', file='noe.out', dir=None, 
 force=1)
 Opening the file 'noe.out' for writing.
 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 457, in module
Relax()
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 167, in __init__
self.interpreter.run()
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line
 216, in run
run_script(intro=self.relax.intro_string, local=self.local,
 script_file=self.relax.script_file, quit=1)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line
 391, in run_script
console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line
 343, in interact_script
execfile(script_file, local)
  File noe.py, line 29, in module
value.write(name, param='noe', file='noe.out', force=1)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/value.py, line 506, 
 in write
self.__relax__.generic.value.write(run=run, param=param,
 file=file, dir=dir, force=force)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/value.py, line
 537, in write
self.write_data(file, return_value)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/value.py, line
 549, in write_data
self.function_type =
 self.relax.data.run_types[self.relax.data.run_names.index(run)]
 ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list


 This is exactly what you see.  So I then tested this on many previous
 relax releases and found that all versions up to 1.2.12 function
 properly.  This error is a regression which appeared in the 1.2.13
 version and still exists in 1.2.14.  So a temporary but quick fix
 would be to do the NOE analysis using relax-1.2.12.  For relaxation
 curve fitting and model-free analysis, the 1.3.1 version can be used
 (there are system tests for these analyses there so this is much less
 likely to fail).  I'm sorry if this caused inconveniences, I have no
 idea how this error was introduced.  I've created a bug report for
 this issue (https://gna.org/bugs/index.php).


 Also, I think it would be very useful if a sample of functional input data,
 as
 you supplied for me in the previous email, would be incorporated in the
 relax
 manual. Different labs can have different naming conventions and formats,
 even
 within a Sparky list, and the column alignment can be tricky (even if
 trivial
 once you know about it). Also, if there is sensitivity to the nomenclature
 system employed (as some of your previous responses on this topic attest),
 then
 an example directly in the manual would definitely be appreciated. I know
 that
 part of the design philosophy is that it's very easy to incorporate new
 format
 tolerance into relax, but it's even faster for a new user who uses a
 slightly
 different format to just read the relevant section of the manual and format
 that way.

 Done, I've added exactly the text you suggest

Relax_fit.py problem

2008-10-08 Thread Tyler Reddy
Hello,

It seems that Relax_fit.py requires replicate data because average and standard
deviation values are used downstream in the analysis. With no replicate data
(since I don't have any) the output is shown below. Also, commenting out the
average and error propagation across multiple spectra

#relax_fit.mean_and_error()

doesn't work either, and I get another error output that is looking for an
averaged value. I'll probably try using a duplicate data set to circumvent this
for now (unless this is actually another problem).

Tyler

Output:

relax relax_fit.mean_and_error()

Calculating the average intensity and standard deviation of all spectra.

Time point:  0.01 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 0:  0.0

Time point:  0.050003 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 1:  0.0

Time point:  0.10001 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 2:  0.0

Time point:  0.20001 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 3:  0.0

Time point:  0.2 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 4:  0.0

Time point:  0.5 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 5:  0.0

Time point:  0.80004 s
Number of spectra:  1
Standard deviation for time point 6:  0.0
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax, line 408, in module
Relax()
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax, line 125, in __init__
self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/interpreter.py, line 270, in run
return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag, show_script=self.__show_script,
raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/interpreter.py, line 531, in
run_script
return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/interpreter.py, line 427, in
interact_script
execfile(script_file, local)
  File relax_fit_T1_500Mhz.py, line 45, in module
relax_fit.mean_and_error()
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/relax_fit.py, line 96, in
mean_and_error
relax_fit_obj.mean_and_error()
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/specific_fns/relax_fit.py, line 729, in
mean_and_error
sd = sd / float(num_dups)
ZeroDivisionError: float division


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Re: Difficulty with noe.py sample script

2008-10-08 Thread Tyler Reddy
Yes, the standard deviation of the steady-state NOEs match to 15 
decimal places
(ignoring the occasional rounding error in excel).

The svn command definitely worked, and picked up a bunch of files, but the
updated software just didn't fix the problems (1.2.14 or 1.3.1 versions). But,
as you say, not all that important anymore since 1.2.12 is just fine for the
NOE.

Tyler


Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 That's good to hear, that the values match.  I hope the errors match
 as well.  If subversion is installed, that then the only way that
 typing:

 svn co http://svn.gna.org/svn/relax/1.2 relax-1.2

 in a terminal can fail is if the Gna! (http://gna.org) open source
 infrastructure is down, which doesn't happen, or if the internet isn't
 working.  But if it's working for you, then you don't need to use SVN.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of the suggested solutions only installing 1.2.12 and running noe.py from
 that
 actually seems to work. I installed a Mac OS X binary version of SVN, and it
 seemed to work just fine, but maybe there's another build step or something
 I
 don't know about after using the commands outlined below. Anyways, the
 steady-state NOE values from relax match perfectly with the parallel
 calculations in excel, so that's good.

 Tyler

 Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I've now found and fixed the bug in the 1.2 relax line (see
 https://gna.org/bugs/?12418).  I will release relax 1.2.15 with this
 fix soonish, but please be patient as it takes up to 6 solid hours to
 do a release.  If you can't wait, you have two alternatives.  The best
 would be to use the subversion program to get the most up-to-date copy
 of the 1.2 relax line by typing:

 $ svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/relax/1.2 relax-1.2

 or if this doesn't work:

 $ svn co http://svn.gna.org/svn/relax/1.2 relax-1.2

 Otherwise you could download and use relax.1.2.12.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Edward d'Auvergne
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Edward,

 Thanks for your continued patience.

 That's okay, it's not a problem.


 Okay, it seems that aligning the data height column by the left most
 digit
 rather than the right most digit is not tolerated. Now the script (1.2)
 almost
 gets to the end, but there is still an error output, where the program
 opens
 noe.out for writing (see below). The noe.out file is created, but it's
 blank.
 Assuming I can get functional input for the 1.2 version (which is
 supposed
 to
 work), if this input doesn't work for the 1.3 version I'm happy to
 submit
 the
 bug report at that stage.

 relax simply splits the text file by whitespace so alignment is only
 an issue if columns fuse.  I think there is another issue somewhere.
 I've tried the analysis with some of my old data, but I get the
 following error:

 relax calc(run='noe', print_flag=1)

 relax value.write(run='noe', param='noe', file='noe.out', dir=None,
 force=1)
 Opening the file 'noe.out' for writing.
 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 457, in module
   Relax()
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 167, in __init__
   self.interpreter.run()
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line
 216, in run
   run_script(intro=self.relax.intro_string, local=self.local,
 script_file=self.relax.script_file, quit=1)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line
 391, in run_script
   console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line
 343, in interact_script
   execfile(script_file, local)
  File noe.py, line 29, in module
   value.write(name, param='noe', file='noe.out', force=1)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/prompt/value.py, line 506, in
 write
   self.__relax__.generic.value.write(run=run, param=param,
 file=file, dir=dir, force=force)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/value.py, line
 537, in write
   self.write_data(file, return_value)
  File /data/relax/releases/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/value.py, line
 549, in write_data
   self.function_type =
 self.relax.data.run_types[self.relax.data.run_names.index(run)]
 ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list


 This is exactly what you see.  So I then tested this on many previous
 relax releases and found that all versions up to 1.2.12 function
 properly.  This error is a regression which appeared in the 1.2.13
 version and still exists in 1.2.14.  So a temporary but quick fix
 would be to do the NOE analysis using relax-1.2.12.  For relaxation
 curve fitting and model-free analysis, the 1.3.1 version can be used
 (there are system tests for these analyses there so this is much less
 likely to fail).  I'm sorry if this caused inconveniences, I have no
 idea how this error was introduced.  I've

Re: Relax_fit.py problem

2008-10-08 Thread Tyler Reddy
Interesting. I'll try to look for the reference described for the 
conversion of
base plane noise to peak height noise.

Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To get past this requirement I added or subtracted the last digit for
 each peak
 height for the data set to make a pseudo-replicate data set (2 
 identical files
 will still get a 0 value division problem). The program goes through 
 the Monte
 Carlo simulations, but doesn't quite finish, with the follow output:

 This will give you the R1 and R2 values, but there errors will be
 incorrect.  These errors must be dead accurate for you to use the R1
 and R2 in any type of analysis, as the curvature of the optimisation
 space and statistical measures are highly dependent on these values.
 If you need instant results with non-replicated spectra, then I would
 recommend you not to use relax.  There may be other software which
 will do this analysis for you, but remember that the errors are very
 important and must be propagated by the only accurate technique -
 Monte Carlo simulations.  The covariance matrix or Jackknife
 simulation techniques are used at times, but just read the Monte Carlo
 section of the Numerical Recepies book to see why I recommend to only
 use MC sims.


 relax monte_carlo.error_analysis(prune=0.0)

 relax value.write(run=None, param='rx', file='rx.out', dir=None, 
 force=True)
 RelaxError: The run argument None must be a string.

 This one I fixed while implementing the NOE analysis in the 1.3 line
 for you.  You will have to wait until I release relax 1.3.2 to have
 this fix, unless you get subversion running and download the fixed
 code ;)

 Regards,

 Edward





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Re: Difficulty with noe.py sample script

2008-10-07 Thread Tyler Reddy
I ran the 1.2 version of the noe.py script with the 1.2 version of 
relax on the
same machine and had a slightly different error output (below). If this is
simply a version-change problem with the script as you say, then I'm not sure
why I'd get a convoluted error with version 1.2 as well.

Output:

Calculating and averaging the unit XH vectors from all structures.

relax noe.read(run='noe', file='NOnoe500.list', dir=None, 
spectrum_type='ref',
format='sparky', heteronuc='N', proton='HN', int_col=None)
Reference spectrum.
Sparky formatted data file.

Opening the file 'NOnoe500.list' for reading.
Number of header lines found: 2
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 457, in module
Relax()
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 167, in __init__
self.interpreter.run()
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line 216, in run
run_script(intro=self.relax.intro_string, local=self.local,
script_file=self.relax.script_file, quit=1)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line 391, in
run_script
console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line 343, in
interact_script
execfile(script_file, local)
  File noe_12.py, line 35, in module
noe.read(name, file='NOnoe500.list', spectrum_type='ref')
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/noe.py, line 226, in read
self.__relax__.specific.noe.read(run=run, file=file, dir=dir,
spectrum_type=spectrum_type, format=format, heteronuc=heteronuc, 
proton=proton,
int_col=int_col)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/specific_fns/noe.py, line 110, in read
self.relax.generic.intensity.read(run=run, file=file, dir=dir,
format=format, heteronuc=heteronuc, proton=proton, int_col=int_col,
assign_func=self.assign_function)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/intensity.py, line 232, in read
res_num, H_name, X_name, intensity = self.intensity(self.file_data[i])
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/intensity.py, line 92, in
intensity_sparky
intensity = float(line[self.int_col])
IndexError: list index out of range



Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 This is definitely a bug!  If you could file a bug report
 (https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additemgroup=relax), that would be much
 appreciated.  If you would like a description of how this is done,
 please see section 3.3 of the relax manual (version 1.3) or the online
 HTML version (currently at
 http://www.nmr-relax.com/manual/1.3/node49.html).

 The reason this is failing is because this code in the 1.3 relax
 versions has not been converted to the new design yet.  For me or the
 relax developers to implement this, first a system test should be
 added to the test suite.  The test suite can be run by typing:

 $ relax --test-suite

 The system test is simply a very tiny, although complete, version of
 the analysis you would like to do.  This can include a small subset of
 the base data, randomised if you'd like to protect the data prior to
 publication.  With the small data subset, I can include your full
 analysis script into the test suite and execute it with the data.
 Then once the test passes, an NOE analysis will be possible.  The data
 and script can be attached to the bug report.  If you would like to
 help in getting this test implemented, that would be much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Edward



 On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I am having trouble with the noe.py script. I have peptide data with 
 6 backbone
 15N labels, and I suspect it's a problem with input. I've tried several
 permutations of full PDB file and full .list Sparky format files as well as
 files trimmed down to include only the labeled residues. I'm not 
 sure which is
 preferable/required for input, and if unlabeled residues can simply be left
 with a blank column value or if there is a special way to treat this?

 Here is a sample of the output I get with any of my tries so far:

 Scientific Python PDB parser.
 Loading all structures from the PDB file.
 Structure('select.pdb'):
  Peptide chain A of length 6


 relax structure.load_spins(spin_id='@N', ave_pos=True)
 Adding the following spins to the relax data store.

 Mol_name   Res_numRes_name   Spin_num   Spin_name
 A  254LEU68 N
 A  258LEU142N
 A  261GLY197N
 A  264LEU230N
 A  268ALA294N
 A  273LEU366N

 relax noe.read(file='NOnoe500_true.list', dir=None, spectrum_type='ref',
 format='sparky', heteronuc='N', proton='HN', int_col=None)
 Reference spectrum.
 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax, line 408, in module
Relax()
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax, line 125, in __init__
self.interpreter.run(self.script_file

Re: Difficulty with noe.py sample script

2008-10-07 Thread Tyler Reddy
Hi Edward,

Thanks for your continued patience.

Okay, it seems that aligning the data height column by the left most digit
rather than the right most digit is not tolerated. Now the script (1.2) almost
gets to the end, but there is still an error output, where the program opens
noe.out for writing (see below). The noe.out file is created, but it's blank.
Assuming I can get functional input for the 1.2 version (which is supposed to
work), if this input doesn't work for the 1.3 version I'm happy to submit the
bug report at that stage.

Also, I think it would be very useful if a sample of functional input data, as
you supplied for me in the previous email, would be incorporated in the relax
manual. Different labs can have different naming conventions and formats, even
within a Sparky list, and the column alignment can be tricky (even if trivial
once you know about it). Also, if there is sensitivity to the nomenclature
system employed (as some of your previous responses on this topic 
attest), then
an example directly in the manual would definitely be appreciated. I know that
part of the design philosophy is that it's very easy to incorporate new format
tolerance into relax, but it's even faster for a new user who uses a slightly
different format to just read the relevant section of the manual and format
that way.

Output:
Calculating the unit XH vectors from the structure.

relax noe.read(run='noe', file='NOnoe500_select.list', dir=None,
spectrum_type='ref', format='sparky
', heteronuc='N', proton='HN', int_col=None)
Reference spectrum.
Sparky formatted data file.

Opening the file 'NOnoe500_select.list' for reading.
Number of header lines found: 2

relax noe.read(run='noe', file='noe500_select.list', dir=None,
spectrum_type='sat', format='sparky',
heteronuc='N', proton='HN', int_col=None)
Saturated spectrum.
Sparky formatted data file.

Opening the file 'noe500_select.list' for reading.
Number of header lines found: 2

relax noe.error(run='noe', error=15.4933, spectrum_type='ref', res_num=None,
res_name=None)

relax noe.error(run='noe', error=10.1449, spectrum_type='sat', res_num=None,
res_name=None)

relax calc(run='noe', print_flag=1)

relax value.write(run='noe', param='noe', file='noe.out', dir=None, force=1)
Opening the file 'noe.out' for writing.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 457, in module
Relax()
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/relax, line 167, in __init__
self.interpreter.run()
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line 216, in run
run_script(intro=self.relax.intro_string, local=self.local,
script_file=self.relax.script_file, q
uit=1)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line 391, in
run_script
console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/interpreter.py, line 343, in
interact_script
execfile(script_file, local)
  File noe_12.py, line 75, in module
value.write(name, param='noe', file='noe.out', force=1)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/prompt/value.py, line 506, in write
self.__relax__.generic.value.write(run=run, param=param, file=file, 
dir=dir,
force=force)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/value.py, line 537, in write
self.write_data(file, return_value)
  File /Applications/relax-1.2.14/generic_fns/value.py, line 549, in
write_data
self.function_type =
self.relax.data.run_types[self.relax.data.run_names.index(run)]
ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list



Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 This is again a bug, as relax hasn't managed to catch a file formatted
 in a way it cannot recognise and then respond with a error message
 which is understandable.  The error indicates to me that relax is
 thinking this is a Sparky formatted peak list, but that the intensity
 column is missing (at least in one position).  The file should look
 something like:

  Assignment w1 w2   Data Height

 LEU3N-HN122.454  8.397   129722
 GLY4N-HN111.999  8.719   422375
 SER5N-HN115.085  8.176   384180
 MET6N-HN120.934  8.812   272100
 ASP7N-HN122.394  8.750   174970
 SER8N-HN113.916  7.836   218762
GLU11N-HN122.194  8.60430412
GLY12N-HN110.525  9.02890144

 The NOE analysis works in version 1.2.14, but not in 1.3.1 yet.  The
 idea for filing the bug report and then me creating a system test
 within relax using a tiny subset of the data was simply a suggestion
 that would allow me to quickly make the NOE analysis functional in the
 next relax 1.3 version.  Then other relax users would benefit from
 having this code functional again too.  But if you need the NOE data
 quickly, relax 1.2.14 will do the job with a Sparky peak list
 possessing all four columns.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL

Difficulty with noe.py sample script

2008-10-06 Thread Tyler Reddy
Hello,

I am having trouble with the noe.py script. I have peptide data with 6 backbone
15N labels, and I suspect it's a problem with input. I've tried several
permutations of full PDB file and full .list Sparky format files as well as
files trimmed down to include only the labeled residues. I'm not sure which is
preferable/required for input, and if unlabeled residues can simply be left
with a blank column value or if there is a special way to treat this?

Here is a sample of the output I get with any of my tries so far:

Scientific Python PDB parser.
Loading all structures from the PDB file.
Structure('select.pdb'):
  Peptide chain A of length 6


relax structure.load_spins(spin_id='@N', ave_pos=True)
Adding the following spins to the relax data store.

Mol_name   Res_numRes_name   Spin_num   Spin_name
A  254LEU68 N
A  258LEU142N
A  261GLY197N
A  264LEU230N
A  268ALA294N
A  273LEU366N

relax noe.read(file='NOnoe500_true.list', dir=None, spectrum_type='ref',
format='sparky', heteronuc='N', proton='HN', int_col=None)
Reference spectrum.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax, line 408, in module
Relax()
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax, line 125, in __init__
self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/interpreter.py, line 270, in run
return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag, show_script=self.__show_script,
raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/interpreter.py, line 531, in
run_script
return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/interpreter.py, line 427, in
interact_script
execfile(script_file, local)
  File noe.py, line 36, in module
noe.read(file='NOnoe500_true.list', spectrum_type='ref')
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/prompt/noe.py, line 216, in read
noe_obj.read(file=file, dir=dir, spectrum_type=spectrum_type, format=format,
heteronuc=heteronuc, proton=proton, int_col=int_col)
  File /Applications/relax-1.3.1/specific_fns/noe.py, line 114, in read
self.relax.generic.intensity.read(run=run, file=file, dir=dir,
format=format, heteronuc=heteronuc, proton=proton, int_col=int_col,
assign_func=self.assign_function)
AttributeError: Noe instance has no attribute 'relax'


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Re: Compiling on Mac OS 10.4

2008-10-02 Thread Tyler Reddy
I finally got the compilation to work. The compiler (gcc) apparently did not
have the header file in its search path. I'm not sure it's the most elegant
solution, but I just put the Python.h header file associated with 
Sparky in the
path in my .cshrc file.

set path=($path
/Applications/Sparky.app/Contents/Resources/python2.4/include/python2.4/)

Quoting Edward d'Auvergne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I forgot to ask but if you could report if this was successful, or the
 steps you took to fix this, that would be much appreciated as the
 acheived message will help other users in the future.

 Regards,

 Edward


 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Edward d'Auvergne 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Welcome to the relax users mailing list.  I've seen this problem
 before but can't remember exactly what is causing it.  We should be
 able to fix this though.  I'm pretty sure that the suggestions on the
 internet of using distutils for this are out of place.  I use
 distutils for the minfx package which is a dependency for relax 1.3.1
 (it used to be part of relax 1.2.x but was spun out as its own project
 for other people to use).  But relax doesn't use distutils, so I think
 these suggestions for distutils on the internet are rubbish - just
 trolls trying to convince innocent users that the developers of the
 software should use distutils rather than the currently used
 compilation and installation methods.

 This problem has been encountered before by Douglas Kojetin douglas
 dot kojetin att gmail dot com
 (https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2006-01/msg00011.html).  I
 think you'll find a solution here:
 https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2006-01/msg00014.html.  The
 thread continues into the next month here:
 https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2006-02/msg0.html.  Don't
 worry about the descriptions about using 'make', we've switched
 everything in relax to using 'scons'.  Anyway, I hope this helps.
 Otherwise we'll have to find another solution.

 Regards,

 Edward



 On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Tyler Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've install all the dependencies that are documented, and I'd like 
 to get the
 curve fitting portion of relax working on Mac OS 10.4. When I type 
 'scons' in
 the relax directory, I get an error with some undefined symbols, as 
 below. A
 brief internet search seems to suggest that I need to use something call
 'distutils,' but I'm not sure how this works! Any help would be 
 appreciated.

 Tyler

 Output:

 scons: Reading SConscript files ...
 scons: done reading SConscript files.
 scons: Building targets ...
 gcc -o maths_fns/relax_fit.so -bundle -bundle_loader
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin/python -dynamic math
 s_fns/c_chi2.os maths_fns/exponential.os maths_fns/relax_fit.os
 /usr/libexec/gcc/i686-apple-darwin8/4.0.1/ld: Undefined symbols:
 _PyCObject_AsVoidPtr
 _PyCObject_Type
 _PyErr_Format
 _PyExc_RuntimeError
 _PyImport_ImportModule
 _PyObject_GetAttrString
 _PyArg_ParseTuple
 _PyArg_ParseTupleAndKeywords
 _PyErr_Print
 _PyErr_SetString
 _PyExc_ImportError
 _PyList_New
 _PyList_SetItem
 _PyList_Type
 _PyType_IsSubtype
 _Py_BuildValue
 _Py_InitModule4
 __Py_NoneStruct
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 scons: *** [maths_fns/relax_fit.so] Error 1
 scons: building terminated because of errors.


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Compiling on Mac OS 10.4

2008-10-01 Thread Tyler Reddy
I've install all the dependencies that are documented, and I'd like to get the
curve fitting portion of relax working on Mac OS 10.4. When I type 'scons' in
the relax directory, I get an error with some undefined symbols, as below. A
brief internet search seems to suggest that I need to use something call
'distutils,' but I'm not sure how this works! Any help would be appreciated.

Tyler

Output:

scons: Reading SConscript files ...
scons: done reading SConscript files.
scons: Building targets ...
gcc -o maths_fns/relax_fit.so -bundle -bundle_loader
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin/python -dynamic math
s_fns/c_chi2.os maths_fns/exponential.os maths_fns/relax_fit.os
/usr/libexec/gcc/i686-apple-darwin8/4.0.1/ld: Undefined symbols:
_PyCObject_AsVoidPtr
_PyCObject_Type
_PyErr_Format
_PyExc_RuntimeError
_PyImport_ImportModule
_PyObject_GetAttrString
_PyArg_ParseTuple
_PyArg_ParseTupleAndKeywords
_PyErr_Print
_PyErr_SetString
_PyExc_ImportError
_PyList_New
_PyList_SetItem
_PyList_Type
_PyType_IsSubtype
_Py_BuildValue
_Py_InitModule4
__Py_NoneStruct
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
scons: *** [maths_fns/relax_fit.so] Error 1
scons: building terminated because of errors.


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