GNOME 3.2.1 stable tarballs due -- elleuca

2011-10-13 Thread Release Team
Hello all,

Tarballs are due on 2011-10-17 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.2.1
stable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which
were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable schedule
so everyone can test them.  Please make sure that your tarballs will
be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than that
will probably be too late to get in 3.2.1. If you are not able to make
a tarball before this deadline or if you think you'll be late, please
send a mail to the release team and we'll find someone to roll the
tarball for you!


For more information about 3.3, the full schedule, the official
module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.3
page:
   http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable

For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see:
   http://live.gnome.org/Schedule

Thanks,
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[gcalctool] Created branch gnome-3-2

2011-10-13 Thread Robert Ancell
The branch 'gnome-3-2' was created pointing to:

 81e2988... Fix cm2 conversion rates (Bug #661582)

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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-10-13 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

I think we discussed that already for the original break request, so 1
of 2 from i18n.

Regards,
Johannes

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[sound-juicer] Created branch gnome-3-2

2011-10-13 Thread Ross Burton
The branch 'gnome-3-2' was created.

Summary of new commits:

  3d02278... Bump version to 3.2.1
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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-10-13 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2011-10-13 at 13:09 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
> Just to be sure: We're only talking about gnome-shell's password prompt
> here, and not the password entry on the Wireless Security tab when you
> edit a connection, right?

Right.

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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-10-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 16:03 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote:
> On mar, 2011-09-20 at 16:30 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Florian Müllner  
> > wrote:
> > > On lun, 2011-09-19 at 15:39 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It's a -1 from me. A small visual incoherence is better then feature
> > >> regression. Better wait 3.4 for a proper solution.
> > >
> > > I'm less worried about visual incoherence here, but rather about wrong
> > > usage of the switch widget[0], which might get picked up by application
> > > authors.
> > 
> > And I assume we don't have checkboxes for shell dialogs...:-(
> > 
> > I am not too worried about the 'feature' that we are temporarily losing 
> > here.
> > I assume we can get context menus (and thus the ability to show
> > passwords) in 3.2.1, Florian ?
> 
> I'm not sure everyone is aware, but Owen was uncomfortable with the
> feature regression, so I backed out for 3.2 despite release team
> approval. I'm bringing it up again for 3.2.1, as the context menu patch
> is now ready to land[0] (but obviously requires another freeze break).
> 
> So I'd like to request a UI freeze break for the addition of context
> menus (screenshot attached) and a string freeze break for the four
> strings introduced in the patch ("Copy", "Paste", "Show Text", "Hide
> Text").

Just to be sure: We're only talking about gnome-shell's password prompt
here, and not the password entry on the Wireless Security tab when you
edit a connection, right?

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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-10-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 16:03 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote:
> On mar, 2011-09-20 at 16:30 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Florian Müllner  
> > wrote:
> > > On lun, 2011-09-19 at 15:39 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It's a -1 from me. A small visual incoherence is better then feature
> > >> regression. Better wait 3.4 for a proper solution.
> > >
> > > I'm less worried about visual incoherence here, but rather about wrong
> > > usage of the switch widget[0], which might get picked up by application
> > > authors.
> > 
> > And I assume we don't have checkboxes for shell dialogs...:-(
> > 
> > I am not too worried about the 'feature' that we are temporarily losing 
> > here.
> > I assume we can get context menus (and thus the ability to show
> > passwords) in 3.2.1, Florian ?
> 
> I'm not sure everyone is aware, but Owen was uncomfortable with the
> feature regression, so I backed out for 3.2 despite release team
> approval. I'm bringing it up again for 3.2.1, as the context menu patch
> is now ready to land[0] (but obviously requires another freeze break).
> 
> So I'd like to request a UI freeze break for the addition of context
> menus (screenshot attached) and a string freeze break for the four
> strings introduced in the patch ("Copy", "Paste", "Show Text", "Hide
> Text").

It doesn't appear we mention the switch in the help, so this won't
invalidate anything. I would like to add a note about right-clicking
to see the password to step 2 in net-wireless-connect.page. I can't
do that now, because gnome-user-docs is frozen for 3.2.1.

I'll give a docs team approval, with the understanding that we won't
add the note in the help until 3.2.2.

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Re: Freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-10-13 Thread Javier Jardón
On 13 October 2011 15:03, Florian Müllner  wrote:
> So I'd like to request a UI freeze break for the addition of context
> menus (screenshot attached) and a string freeze break for the four
> strings introduced in the patch ("Copy", "Paste", "Show Text", "Hide
> Text").

+1 from me, thanks for complete this for 3.2.1

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Re: Making release notes more useful - 'whats new ?'

2011-10-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 10:29 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> so I have been thinking a bit about our documentation efforts and how
> to make the most out of the awesome work that is done in this area, as
> well as the release notes.
> Floating these ideas to the relevant lists before writing it down as a
> feature proposal seems like a good idea, so you can shoot it down
> early if it doesn't sound good.
> 
> I think we should have a 'Here's whats new' summary that greets the
> user the first time he log in to a major new version. I guess this
> would be like the release notes, but shortened
> to to fit into a single screen. We could offer 'learn more...' links
> to the more extensive release notes from there. To make that work
> regardless of network, having the release notes installed together
> with the rest of the documentation would be good.
> 
> We can also add a 'New to GNOME 3 ?' link that points to the Desktop
> Overview (something that we should have done for 3.0, really).

I've been wanting to add a "What's New" page to all our help for
some time now. When people upgrade, they can just quickly look
at the help to see what cool new stuff they're getting. People
don't necessarily upgrade every six months, so keep the old news
in there and rotate it out after maybe four releases.

That's simple enough for application help, but for the desktop
we'd have to put more thought into it. For example, our release
notes talk about Epiphany's "Save as Application". Do we cover
that in a desktop-wide "What's New", even though it would also
be covered in Epiphany's? Nothing unsolvable. Just takes thought.

As for an intro tutorial, I don't think any of our existing help
pages are a fantastic first-time tutorial for GNOME 3. We have
pages that tell you about the various pieces, and some overview
pages, but nothing that compels you to work through it for five
or ten minutes.

For an intro, you want something that makes you do things, even
if they're not things you were setting out to do right now. For
example, it could have you add Cheese to the dash, then remove
it again.

And for that kind of thing, I think we could have something more
fun and more interactive than a help page.

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Making release notes more useful - 'whats new ?'

2011-10-13 Thread Matthias Clasen
Hey,

so I have been thinking a bit about our documentation efforts and how
to make the most out of the awesome work that is done in this area, as
well as the release notes.
Floating these ideas to the relevant lists before writing it down as a
feature proposal seems like a good idea, so you can shoot it down
early if it doesn't sound good.

I think we should have a 'Here's whats new' summary that greets the
user the first time he log in to a major new version. I guess this
would be like the release notes, but shortened
to to fit into a single screen. We could offer 'learn more...' links
to the more extensive release notes from there. To make that work
regardless of network, having the release notes installed together
with the rest of the documentation would be good.

We can also add a 'New to GNOME 3 ?' link that points to the Desktop
Overview (something that we should have done for 3.0, really).

Does this sound like a good idea ?


Matthias
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[yelp] Created branch gnome-3-2

2011-10-13 Thread Shaun McCance
The branch 'gnome-3-2' was created pointing to:

 f4c77a2... Updated Polish translation

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