Re: 10 Days Until Next Milestone
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 19:15:20 Tom Albers wrote: Other point, it was said that the agressive 4.0 release schedule was also to allow devs to developp and port applications for 4.x. What is the purpose without kdevelop and win/osx port? I would love a win/osx port and the people working on that seem to do a great job as far as i can see. Maybe they should be on this list? Although that would probably blur the focus, there will be no KDE 4.0 (in the sense of a desktop) for OSX or Windows, only applications. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Remember, God could only create the world in 6 days because he didn't have an established user base. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: 10 Days Until Next Milestone
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 00:12, Allen Winter wrote: On Tuesday 22 May 2007 5:45:03 am Dirk Mueller wrote: On Tuesday, 22. May 2007, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: + The KDE main modules are frozen for new features. at this point, this is rediculously optimistic. there are three realities ahead of us: I would s,new features,new applications, How about: 1. 1 June is changed from new feature freeze to new application freeze 2. We move the feature freeze to the start of the second beta (approx 25 July). As this is also when the string freeze occurs ? Yes, please. Else, I'll only have time to make KolourPaint work (it doesn't at the moment) - not implement any wishes. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: 10 Days Until Next Milestone
I propose a 25 July feature freeze for the sub-module which *really* need it, and keep the 1june for others, like kdegames, to focus on quality (usability, artwork...). At least, some KDE4.0 parts could give a polished image to 4.0, and some frozen dev could even help the latecomer sub-modules to be good enought. Since kdegames is in good shape, I guess they have time left for new features. So freezing the modules that are in good shape seems silly to me now that I think of it. On the other hand, without a module freeze we can not really shift our focus to stabilizing and really finishing all the games. There is always the temptation to rescue that game that did not make the cut for 4.0, and maybe adding that big feature that we know will not be fully matured in the next 150 days or so. I support Johann's idea, of only extending the feature freeze for the modules and apps that really need it. In our case, I guess the proposal made by Allen seems nice: 1. 1 June is changed from new feature freeze to new application freeze 2. We move the feature freeze to the start of the second beta (approx 25 July). As this is also when the string freeze occurs. So each individual game could perhaps use this time to implement a missing feature, but we would not add new games to the module after June 1st. Regards, Mauricio Piacentini ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: 10 Days Until Next Milestone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Kügler wrote: Maybe they should be on this list? Although that would probably blur the focus, there will be no KDE 4.0 (in the sense of a desktop) for OSX or Windows, only applications. I'm on the list (I work on the OSX packaging), just haven't had much to chime in with. :) My packaging stuff is mostly automated, as long as the tree builds, so I shouldn't have too much issue with getting a release put together. I did just start a new job and haven't had time to keep up with the state of KDE-on-OSX for the last month or so, so I don't know what the state of the build is, but I intend to do some catching up shortly. - -- Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick Fink, KDE, and Mac OS X development http://www.racoonfink.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVC2JUu+jZtP2Zf4RApTaAKCa6tq0IbNmDZOaGfVEoDOa9tkSfgCeM92P meKSXP6kOQdM3V9xU7RtZYg= =TDt6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: 10 Days Until Next Milestone
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 10:12:45 am Allen Winter wrote: On Tuesday 22 May 2007 5:45:03 am Dirk Mueller wrote: On Tuesday, 22. May 2007, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: + The KDE main modules are frozen for new features. at this point, this is rediculously optimistic. there are three realities ahead of us: I would s,new features,new applications, How about: 1. 1 June is changed from new feature freeze to new application freeze 2. We move the feature freeze to the start of the second beta (approx 25 July). As this is also when the string freeze occurs ? Seems that we are in agreement. I will make the changes to our release docs on techbase and inform the developers. -Allen ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
