Re: KDE 3.5.8

2007-09-23 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Divendres 21 Setembre 2007, Stephan Kulow va escriure:
 Hi!

 It's been a while since KDE 3.5.7 (released may 22nd) and a lot has changed
 in the 3.5 branch since then, so I would like to release another service
 pack.

 As the translators requested some clean up time, I suggest we go with
 October 7th as tagging date and release on 15th.

 Any objections? If not, I let everyone know :)

As a matter of saying i agree i created the changelog page up to r715588

http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_7to3_5_8.php

Albert

P.S: We should hide it in few time or pages will start linking to it saying 
3.5.8 is out, though.


 Greetings, Stephan
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Tagging beta 3.

2007-09-23 Thread Tom Albers
Hi, 

In an effort to see how things look just before the tagging (beta 3 is planned 
to be tagged the 26th), I checked out and build KDE4.

I just wanted to let you know that currently there is no panel and no start 
menu. That means everything has to be done by krunner. A lot of plasma applets 
I tried made plasma crash and alt-tab was barely usable. I know kde4 is about 
much more that plasma, but the user experience is currently not very good. 
In my opinion it would be a mistake to tag KDE in this state. And I'm almost 
crying when I say this.

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Re: Tagging beta 3.

2007-09-23 Thread Cyrille Berger
Hello;

 I just wanted to let you know that currently there is no panel and no start
 menu. That means everything has to be done by krunner. A lot of plasma
 applets I tried made plasma crash and alt-tab was barely usable. I know
 kde4 is about much more that plasma, but the user experience is currently
 not very good. In my opinion it would be a mistake to tag KDE in this
 state. And I'm almost crying when I say this.
Yes I agree with you, for next beta having a menu to launch other KDE4 
applications is a must have.

And about KDE4 is much more that plasma, it's also the only thing an user 
might be able to test if he doesn't have the sense to right-click on the 
desktop. My first attempt to run KDE4 desktop was with last beta, and at 
first I couldn't find how to launch application, so I just played with a few 
applets and that's all. Last week I tried again (with my own build), that's 
only then I found out that right click on the desktop allows me to run an 
application (I know that's also the case in KDE3, but I never use kdesktop's 
popup menu). So, I wonder how many people try KDE4's beta and didn't know how 
to launch applications, and just played with plasma (and probably found it 
nice), and so couldn't even try other applications (which is a shame as quiet 
a few are nearly ready, I am thinking kdegames and kdeedu).

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Goals for the beta release.

2007-09-23 Thread Tom Albers
Hi, 

As discussed in a thread last week, here is an overview of goals for the beta 
cycle:

 http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals

As soon as all is green we can continue to the release candidate cycle. 

I will update the page as soon as I receive the info from the remaining 
projects.

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Another item to add to your list perhaps?

2007-09-23 Thread Troy Unrau
Hey guys, perhaps this should go on your list at
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals

KWin Composite has performance issues (big ones) on hardware where
other 3D compositing programs run perfectly smoothly. Perhaps we just
need to optimize for some hardware or something, and it's not a
showstopper (since composite can be disabled), but it will ruin a lot
of first impressions of KWin 4 in it's current state.

Cheers folks

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Geophysics Student - University of Manitoba
KDE Gearhead
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Re: Another item to add to your list perhaps?

2007-09-23 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 23.09.07 14:26:04, Troy Unrau wrote:
 Hey guys, perhaps this should go on your list at
 http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals
 
 KWin Composite has performance issues (big ones) on hardware where
 other 3D compositing programs run perfectly smoothly. Perhaps we just
 need to optimize for some hardware or something, and it's not a
 showstopper (since composite can be disabled), but it will ruin a lot
 of first impressions of KWin 4 in it's current state.

Speaking about kwin:

Not necessarily for the beta-goals, but for the final release somebody
should sit down and fix the xinerama issues in kwin as well. I'm rather
astonished that xinerama is basically completely broken, because I was
under the impression that the standard kwin code didn't change that
much (i.e. the non-compositing stuff)...

Andreas

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Re: Goals for the beta release.

2007-09-23 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Diumenge 23 Setembre 2007, Tom Albers va escriure:
 Hi,

 As discussed in a thread last week, here is an overview of goals for the
 beta cycle:

  http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals

 As soon as all is green we can continue to the release candidate cycle.

 I will update the page as soon as I receive the info from the remaining
 projects.

 Toma

In my opinion we should add having SSL/https support (Which thiago says we 
don't have at the moment)

Albert
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