Non-C++ Apps in KDE Main Modules (Was: Guidance in KDE Admin)

2008-03-27 Thread Allen Winter
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 16:17:53 Leo Savernik wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb Nicolas Ternisien:
      All modules need porting to KDE4 (and could make nice showcases for
   the Python   bindings then). Mountconfig would also need porting to
   Solid (it already uses

 [...]

  No other opinion ? If you agree, just say Yes/+1 or No/-1, just to be
  sure this is something useful, and that will help KDE Admin being more
  interesting.

 It looks like Guidance introduces a hard python dependency into KDE. I
 don't particularly like that. Is there any precedent that justifies a hard
 runtime python dependency?

I think the Release Team should discuss this and provide a policy statement.

Do we allow Python/Ruby/C#/Perl etc. apps in the KDE main modules?
If so, which ones and why?

Oh, and this is also needed for Jonathan's system-config-printer-applet

Here are some off-the-cuff thoughts to get the ball rolling:

For the language
1)  must have a  mature, working, kde binding (i.e. there isn't a
working perl binding IIRC)
2) must be mature and operational on all our target platforms
3) must be able to provide full translations and internationalizations

For the app:
1) must follow the kde look-and-feel, widgets, etc
...



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Re: Non-C++ Apps in KDE Main Modules (Was: Guidance in KDE Admin)

2008-03-27 Thread Kevin Ottens
Le Thursday 27 March 2008, Allen Winter a écrit :
 I think the Release Team should discuss this and provide a policy
 statement.

 Do we allow Python/Ruby/C#/Perl etc. apps in the KDE main modules?
 If so, which ones and why?

 Oh, and this is also needed for Jonathan's system-config-printer-applet

 Here are some off-the-cuff thoughts to get the ball rolling:

 For the language
 1)  must have a  mature, working, kde binding (i.e. there isn't a
 working perl binding IIRC)
 2) must be mature and operational on all our target platforms
 3) must be able to provide full translations and internationalizations

 For the app:
 1) must follow the kde look-and-feel, widgets, etc
 ...

Also, per binding we probably a list of do and don't which should be 
followed by applications using the said binding.

For instance, the use of the python dbus bindings has shortcomings (as 
system-config-printer-applet shown), do we allow apps like that? There's 
probably similar cases for other bindings.

Regards.
-- 
Kévin 'ervin' Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net
Ni le maître sans disciple, Ni le disciple sans maître,
Ne font reculer l'ignorance.


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Re: Non-C++ Apps in KDE Main Modules (Was: Guidance in KDE Admin)

2008-03-27 Thread Rex Dieter
Kevin Ottens wrote:

 Also, per binding we probably a list of do and don't which should be 
 followed by applications using the said binding.
 
 For instance, the use of the python dbus bindings has shortcomings (as 
 system-config-printer-applet shown), do we allow apps like that? There's 
 probably similar cases for other bindings.

That seems to me to be an unmaintainable list.  Why not use an easier 
criteria like app must work reliably as advertised and/or app must 
not suck?   :)

-- Rex
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New Features list?

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Pakulat
Hi,

IIRC for  KDE 3.5 there was an xml file to accumulate the various
changes (specially features) that were done. Does something like that
exist for KDE 4.1 too? I mean besides the feature planning page on
techbase. Where do I find it if it exists? I'd like to add an entry for
the Print Shortcuts feature I just comitted.

Andreas

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KDE 4.0.3 packages uploaded (try #1)

2008-03-27 Thread Dirk Mueller

Hi, 

KDE 4.0.3 packages are uploaded to the usual place. it might happen that I 
have to update kdebase-workspace again, but other than that, this should be 
it. 

Please let me know of any issues you find. 

Thanks,
Dirk
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Re: KDE 4.0.3 packages uploaded (try #1)

2008-03-27 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Dirk Mueller wrote:

 Please let me know of any issues you find.

the translations are still being generated, I hope I can upload them tomorrow 
morning. 

Greetings,
Dirk
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