Re: bic and sic change in soprano

2012-05-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-05-29, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
 as Trueg is perhaps MIA for a few more days and i'd like to see this move 
 forward sooner rather than later, has anyone figured out what commits removed 
 this class(es?) ...

mainly 3d66d429cb48781881af3e735f2a80af2114ab25, but
5dde64227186d405f86bf66256705fbceabcf1e2 also has some related bits.

/Sune

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Re: nepomuk-core needs unreleased Soprano

2012-05-30 Thread Sebastian Trüg
The new beta1 release is uploaded to SF now. I will add announcements
tonight.

Sorry for the delay. I was moving house and had no internet connection.

On 05/26/2012 04:57 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
 Hi, I've just learnt that nepomuk-core needs an unreleased Soprano, so until 
 Sebastian does a new release you'll have to use the git version of soprano.
 
 Sorry for just learning this.
 
 Albert
 
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Re: nepomuk-core needs unreleased Soprano

2012-05-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 09:15:03 Sebastian Trüg wrote:
 The new beta1 release is uploaded to SF now. I will add announcements
 tonight.

i assume these will be source and binary incompatible with previous releases
due to the removal of tcpclient.h from the build.

i have put in a stub version of tcpclient.cpp that does nothing other than
tell the developer not to use it ;) it now builds and should be SC and BC. i
pushed this to both master and the 2.8 branch.

this means we'll need a re-do of the tarballs .. but that's not a big deal.

so current status is:

* SC/BC should be restored (though not tested with an automated checker; just
took care of the tcpclient issue)

* we have a branch (2.8) which releases can be pulled from

... we should be good to go?

 Sorry for the delay. I was moving house and had no internet connection.

yes, this sucks .. what makes me nervous, and should make us all nervous, is
this implies that soprano has a bus number of 1. that is not tolerable for a
component that so many things in our code relies on. may i suggest that
Vishesh be promoted to co-maintainer so that he may also take on tasks such
as these if you become unavailable? it's still a relatively low bus number of
2, but that's a lot better than 1.

--
Aaron J. Seigo

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[HEADS-UP] libkgoogle renaming to libKGAPI

2012-05-30 Thread Allen Winter
Howdy,

Just read on kde-core-devel that Dan will be renaming his libkgoogle library to 
libKGAPI

The code for this library will be available in KDE's Git repo.  The repo is 
already there as libkgoogle
but I don't know if Dan will also change the name of the repo.

The rename will affect kdepim-runtime 4.9 so I assume you'll need to package a 
libKGAPI
if you want your users to have access to Google resources from kdepim 
applications.


More details as they become available.

-Allen
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Re: nepomuk-core needs unreleased Soprano

2012-05-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Wednesday 30 May 2012, Sebastian Trüg wrote:
 what is a bus number?

The number of developers who need to be hit by a bus for the project to be 
destroyed. 1 means there's a single point of failure (you), i.e., whenever you 
aren't available for whatever reason (such as the past few days), everything 
grinds to a halt.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-30 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Hello all,

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com wrote:

 Why cancel instead of just telling people the need to update to soprano from 
 git?

 Scott K


I think that most of the discussion here is based off of a
miscommunication caused by the title of this thread. The original post
by Albert does state that the current *tarballs* for beta1 have been
cancelled, while the title suggests that the whole of beta1 has been
called off. This uncertainty, I think, has lead to confusion as to
whether any tarballs at all will be made for beta1, and I think most
of the posts (as well as the resulting tensions) have been based off
the premise that beta1 isn't happening at all.

If I am understanding the original post correctly, the release is
still planned. (But perhaps delayed?) On the other hand, I could be
totally wrong, and the cancelled tarballs could mean a cancelled beta1
release entirely.Some things could have perhaps been communicated
better, and things were definitely exacerbated by Trueg's MIA-ness
over the weekend. I think that there are still some pieces of
information that still need to be known before the situation can be
considered cleared up:

- Given that only the tarballs for beta1 have been cancelled, will the
release proceed with new tarballs now that we have a soprano release,
or will beta1 not have a release in tarball form?
- If so, when is the new release timeframe for beta1? (I'm assuming
that if new tarballs are spun, the timeframe has changed, since the
tarballs are not currently available via ftpmaster)

I also have a few remarks as to how the situation with soprano was
handled in general. There were bound to be bumps along the way with
this transition, so please don't take these as accusations of blame
against any person or group of people, but more as things to take in
to consideration for the future. (Remember, hindsight vision is always
20/20, etc, and there were external events complicating things...)

Given the nature of the reason for cancelling the tarballs, I don't
think a complete removal from ftpmaster/respin is quite the proper
response for a missing dependency. I can definitely see the rationale
for a delay of the release, but once the issue is resolved, the KDE
tarballs will only be respun from the same tag and will be effectively
identical. Technically, the tarballs are embargoed until release
already, or at least embargoed until a day or so before release to
give distros a chance to have binaries more or less built at the
official release time. I seem to remember Kubuntu catching some flak
for this early on in the KDE4 days for publishing tarballs before they
were ready, so I have a bit of personal experience to this bit. ;-)

The tarballs are still useful to packagers in a practical sense even
in the case of a release delay, especially since any respins will be
based off the same tag. Packaging work is cumulative, so work could
still be done with the old tarballs. I think that in the future
instead of the release team removing the tarballs from ftpmaster, a
note send out to the various m-l's saying the release has been
delayed, so please remember to respect the existing embargo on the
tarballs would be a bit more appropriate than the outright removal of
the tarballs from ftpmaster.

Regards,
Jonathan
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Beta 1: New Plans

2012-05-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
Ok, so these are the new plans

a) reupload old tarballs ASAP (working on that, expect them on the usual 
location by the end of the day)

b) repackage all the tarballs with contents from master (KDE/4.8 for kdelibs) 
tomorrow afternoon. This will include patches the patches you had to apply 
manually before so that there were no duplicate installed files, etc

c) upload these new tarballs tomorrow 

d) Make the release on Monday

This plan has been agreed with Sebas and Allen. If you have serious objections 
please make them ASAP.

Albert

P.S: Please note I probably will be disconnected from the interwebs from 
Thursday night to Sunday evening
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Re: Beta 1: New Plans

2012-05-30 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf

On 05/30/2012 06:28 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:

Ok, so these are the new plans

a) reupload old tarballs ASAP (working on that, expect them on the usual
location by the end of the day)

b) repackage all the tarballs with contents from master (KDE/4.8 for kdelibs)
tomorrow afternoon. This will include patches the patches you had to apply
manually before so that there were no duplicate installed files, etc

c) upload these new tarballs tomorrow

d) Make the release on Monday

This plan has been agreed with Sebas and Allen. If you have serious objections
please make them ASAP.

Albert

P.S: Please note I probably will be disconnected from the interwebs from
Thursday night to Sunday evening


OK with me, thanks for all this Albert.

Anne-Marie
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Soprano tarball

2012-05-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
BTW you guys can find the soprano tarball at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/soprano/files/Soprano/2.7.56/

Albert
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