Re: KDE 3.5.final? (Was: Release of KDE 3.5.10)

2008-08-21 Thread Benoit Minisini
On jeudi 21 août 2008, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
 On Thursday 21 August 2008 14:24:13 Allen Winter wrote:
  On Wednesday 20 August 2008 11:45:33 Stephan Kulow wrote:
   To state it more explicit: 3.5.10 is the last KDE 3.5 release. I had to
   fix two modules to even compile before I could tag it and I have
   _heavy_ doubts about the testing that the branch sees. And the less
   it's used, the more likely we'll see large changes breaking things for
   a small group - that would have been served better with leaving
   everything as it is.
 
  Can we discuss this decision a little?
  Apparently some core devs think we shouldn't put an end to the 3.5 series
  just yet.

 Putting an end to KDE 3.5.10 at this point delivers the wrong message to
 the public: We don't care about KDE 3.5 anymore. I'd much rather if we
 released another bugfix update every couple of months, I'm sure users would
 appreciate it. KDE 3.5 is still widely used, and will be for some time.

I agree. 

I have just committed a patch that couldn't go into KDE 3.5.10, and in the 
future, I'd like to fix other annoying bugs like thekonsole eating all mouse 
wheel events bug, and the changing the global colour settings resets the 
global font DPI bug.

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Release of KDE 3.5.10

2008-08-20 Thread Benoit Minisini
Hi,

I am currently committing patches to kicker for KDE 3.5.10. 

Some of the patches are not yet committed, because I am waiting the agreement 
of Aaron or other old kicker maintainers.

KDE 3.5.10 was announced for mid August. Is there a more precise freeze 
date? So that I can deal with my own schedule...

Thanks in advance for any answer.

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Re: Release of KDE 3.5.10

2008-08-20 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mercredi 20 août 2008, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 August 2008 00:36:06 Benoit Minisini wrote:
  I am currently committing patches to kicker for KDE 3.5.10.

 Those won't make it int 3.5.10, but if we gather enough changes, that would
 warrant a 3.5.11 in a couple of months. (I see Tobias also did a size limit
 for the trash.)

  Some of the patches are not yet committed, because I am waiting the
  agreement of Aaron or other old kicker maintainers.
 
  KDE 3.5.10 was announced for mid August. Is there a more precise freeze
  date? So that I can deal with my own schedule...

 3.5 branch has been frozen for ages. Tagging has happened yesterday.
 Release will be next Tuesday. (Unless we delay 3.5.10 by two weeks, that's
 up to coolo.)

  Thanks in advance for any answer.

Hi,

The mail you are answering has been originally sent Aug. 13th (see the 
mailing-list archives), and so is out of date. All my patches have been 
committed since last monday.

I don't know why the mailing-list sends this mail again...

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Re: KDE 3.5.10

2008-08-19 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mardi 19 août 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Am Montag 18 August 2008 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
  On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:53:21 Stephan Kulow wrote:
   I will tag KDE 3.5.10 on tuesday, 19th and prepare tars for
   the packager. As the general interest in this release should
   be pretty limited, it will be in the hands of the promo team
   when the announcement fits best in the line of dot posts ;)
 
  I guess by next Tuesday, it's less likely to be snowed under by the
  flurry of Akademy posts, and journalists had some breathing time as well.
  (I saw news sites with 2/3s of their frontpage articles being about KDE /
  Akademy
 
  :).
 
  So let's target Tuesday, 26th, noon-ish. You can start synching in the
  morning then, and I'll have you confirm on IRC whether everything is in
  place. OK?

 Tuesday noon-ish is bad, I have Krabbelgrubbe between 9 and 11 :)
 But we talk on monday evening.

 Greetings, Stephan

Hi,

I'm currently committing a not important patch to kicker for KDE 3.5.10. When 
exactly KDE 3.5.10 will be tagged? Is it possible to delay the tagging for 
one day or two?

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Re: KDE 3.5.10

2008-08-19 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mardi 19 août 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Am Dienstag 19 August 2008 schrieb Benoit Minisini:
  On mardi 19 août 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:
   Am Montag 18 August 2008 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:53:21 Stephan Kulow wrote:
 I will tag KDE 3.5.10 on tuesday, 19th and prepare tars for
 the packager. As the general interest in this release should
 be pretty limited, it will be in the hands of the promo team
 when the announcement fits best in the line of dot posts ;)
   
I guess by next Tuesday, it's less likely to be snowed under by the
flurry of Akademy posts, and journalists had some breathing time as
well. (I saw news sites with 2/3s of their frontpage articles being
about KDE / Akademy
   
:).
   
So let's target Tuesday, 26th, noon-ish. You can start synching in
the morning then, and I'll have you confirm on IRC whether everything
is in place. OK?
  
   Tuesday noon-ish is bad, I have Krabbelgrubbe between 9 and 11 :)
   But we talk on monday evening.
  
   Greetings, Stephan
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm currently committing a not important patch to kicker for KDE 3.5.10.
  When exactly KDE 3.5.10 will be tagged? Is it possible to delay the
  tagging for one day or two?

 No. 

It's just that I didn't know the tagging date of KDE 3.5.10. 

Someone told me that it will be Aug. 20th, but that was just a guess. 
Apparently I missed the mail where you said it is today, so I was surprised.

 3.5 branch is frozen since ages - I'm just packaging it for the fixes 
 in the branch.

I don't understand the last sentence: /branches/KDE/3.5 is not frozen, as many 
people put patches there yet, as I did with kicker.

Anyway, all my patches were committed in time (except the last one, but it was 
not important), and I hope things were tested enough!

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Re: KDE 3.5.10

2008-08-19 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mardi 19 août 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
 On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Benoit Minisini wrote:
  So, having done all this work during a month just to hear that everything
  will be removed at the day of the release is a bit... rude.

 Benoit, I think the issue here is that people trying to decide what to do
 about it don't have the information necessary to make an informed decision.
 So they default to revert everything.

 A list of changes you made to kicker here would probably fix that.

OK! I did this list for Danny Allen some days ago. He asked it me for the KDE 
digest. 

Here is this list, in arbitrary order.

1) Desktop names are drawn with a shadow, so that they are readable on a 
transparent background.

2) Applet handles now use a themed arrow button. They lost their unneeded 
big left margin too (only one pixel now).

3) The taskbar flickers less, especially on desktop changes. Some 
unneeded taskbar button repaints were removed.

4) The system tray arrow button now follows the widget theme. The useless 
vertical line was removed. The system tray layout algorithm was fixed too.

5) The weather applet button now behaves as other kicker buttons.

6) When moving a panel, the frame is now drawn with top-level unmanaged 
windows, using the title bar color.

7) The mixer applet now displays nicely on a transparent background.

8) The anti-aliased clock was fixed. Other little bugs were fixed in the clock 
applet too.

9) The runner applet layout algorithm was fixed.

10) The moon applet displays correctly on a transparent background.

11) The character table applet now follows transparency, and adapt the 
character font size to its cell size.

12) The eyes applet is anti-aliased now.

13) The little puzzle game better follows transparency.

14) The add applet dialog was fixed: no more unneeded space to its end, and 
you can drag  drop any button from it.

15) When a panel has a background image that is colorized according to the 
global palette, its one-pixel border is colored the same way.

16) The background image is correctly mirrored for top panels.

17) Panels now work correctly when they have scroll buttons. These scroll 
buttons now use themed arrows.

18) Changing the widget theme makes kicker automatically restart. Otherwise, 
the layout of some applets may become incorrect.

19) The transparency of many applets was fixed. And now they use kicker 
buttons instead of normal or specific ones.

20) The background of applets and buttons is automatically refreshed when they 
are moved.

21) In transparent mode, applet handles are drawn with a transparent rectangle 
shadow, and not a themed dock bar anymore.

I made two screenshots of these changes, that I sent to Danny. If anyone 
wants, I will send them to their private e-mail.

I browsed bugs.kde.org too, and I put a comment fixed in KDE 3.5.10 in all 
fixed bugs (I didn't think that the patches would be reverted).

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Release of KDE 3.5.10

2008-08-12 Thread Benoit Minisini
Hi,

I am currently committing patches to kicker for KDE 3.5.10. 

Some of the patches are not yet committed, because I am waiting the agreement 
of Aaron or other old kicker maintainers.

KDE 3.5.10 was announced for mid August. Is there a more precise freeze 
date? So that I can deal with my own schedule...

Thanks in advance for any answer.

Regards,

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