Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-12-12 Thread Manuel Tortosa
The docs for Kommander are not being installed, is this correct?

http://www.chakra-project.org/packages/pkg-ls.php?package=kdewebdev-
doc-4.7.90-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xzsubdir=kde-unstable/x86_64

I tried to run make install directly in the doc/kommander folder:
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.


Best regards.
Manuel Tortosa

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-10 Thread Alberto Villa
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Dirk Mueller muel...@kde.org wrote:
 Let me know of any issues (my own build is still running). kde-l10n is still
 being generated and will be uploaded in ~ 3 hours.

it built fine on freebsd. is there any idea on the release date? just
to understand if it can match our own schedule (it's a matter of days
before we freeze our repo)
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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-10 Thread Jonathan Callen
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On 10/08/2011 06:21 PM, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
 On 08.10.11 15:24:57, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
 
 On 08.10.11 01:10:50, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
 Andras Mantia wrote:
 On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike
 previous tarballs, these have been consistently taken
 from KDE/4.7 branch in git.
 
 What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git? I
 don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and
 would like to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not. 
 dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime) 
 84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)
 
 Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find
 problems in a non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one,
 but tags are immutable, so they should be created only once
 we're sure everything is okay.
 
 Sorry thats wrong:
 
 git tag -a 4.7.2 edit source file git commit -a -m Blah git
 tag -f -a 4.7.2
 
 works just fine and you can push the result without needing
 the force-parameter as long as the commit the tag points to now
 is a successor of the one it pointed to before.
 
 As far as I know, that's not the case for annotated tags. If a
 tag points at a commit A, it can be updated to commit B if A is
 an ancestor of B. But if the tag points at an annotated tag
 object which in turn points at commit A, you can't update it at
 all. There is nothing that can be a successor of the tag object.
 
 Did you actually try it out? I've done this twice in the last 4
 weeks at work and did not run into any problems. And neither did I
 when I tried right now :)
 
 Andreas
 

That works very well *until the tag is pushed*.  Once the tag has been
pushed, if you try and push a changed tag, anyone that pulled the repo
with the old tag *will not see the tag change*.  This behavior is by
design, the following excerpt from git-tag(1) explains why:

   On Re-tagging
   What should you do when you tag a wrong commit and you would
   want to re-tag?

   If you never pushed anything out, just re-tag it. Use -f to
   replace the old one. And you’re done.

   But if you have pushed things out (or others could just read
   your repository directly), then others will have already seen
   the old tag. In that case you can do one of two things:

1. The sane thing. Just admit you screwed up, and use a
   different name. Others have already seen one tag-name, and if
   you keep the same name, you may be in the situation that two
   people both have version X, but they actually have
   _different_ X's. So just call it X.1 and be done with it.

2. The insane thing. You really want to call the new version
   X too, _even though_ others have already seen the old one.
   So just use `git tag -f again`, as if you hadn’t already
   published the old one.

   However, Git does *not* (and it should not) change tags behind
   users back. So if somebody already got the old tag, doing a `git
   pull` on your tree shouldn’t just make them overwrite the old
   one.

   If somebody got a release tag from you, you cannot just change
   the tag for them by updating your own one. This is a big
   security issue, in that people MUST be able to trust their
   tag-names. If you really want to do the insane thing, you need
   to just fess up to it, and tell people that you messed up. You
   can do that by making a very public announcement saying:

   Ok, I messed up, and I pushed out an earlier version tagged
   as X. I then fixed something, and retagged the *fixed* tree
   as X again.

   If you got the wrong tag, and want the new one, please delete
   the old one and fetch the new one by doing:

   git tag -d X
   git fetch origin tag X

   to get my updated tag.

   You can test which tag you have by doing

   git rev-parse X

   which should return 0123456789abcdef.. if you have the new
   version.

   Sorry for the inconvenience.


   Does this seem a bit complicated? It *should* be. There is no way
   that it would be correct to just fix it automatically. People
   need to know that their tags might have been changed.

[end excerpt]

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-10 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 10.10.11 00:33:17, Jonathan Callen wrote:
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 On 10/08/2011 06:21 PM, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
  On 08.10.11 15:24:57, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
  Andreas Pakulat wrote:
  
  On 08.10.11 01:10:50, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
  Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike
  previous tarballs, these have been consistently taken
  from KDE/4.7 branch in git.
  
  What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git? I
  don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and
  would like to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not. 
  dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime) 
  84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)
  
  Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find
  problems in a non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one,
  but tags are immutable, so they should be created only once
  we're sure everything is okay.
  
  Sorry thats wrong:
  
  git tag -a 4.7.2 edit source file git commit -a -m Blah git
  tag -f -a 4.7.2
  
  works just fine and you can push the result without needing
  the force-parameter as long as the commit the tag points to now
  is a successor of the one it pointed to before.
  
  As far as I know, that's not the case for annotated tags. If a
  tag points at a commit A, it can be updated to commit B if A is
  an ancestor of B. But if the tag points at an annotated tag
  object which in turn points at commit A, you can't update it at
  all. There is nothing that can be a successor of the tag object.
  
  Did you actually try it out? I've done this twice in the last 4
  weeks at work and did not run into any problems. And neither did I
  when I tried right now :)
  
  Andreas
  
 
 That works very well *until the tag is pushed*.  Once the tag has been
 pushed, if you try and push a changed tag, anyone that pulled the repo
 with the old tag *will not see the tag change*.  This behavior is by
 design, the following excerpt from git-tag(1) explains why:

Indeed, though unlike the documentation suggests a simple git fetch
--targs will do the job without the necessity to first delete the old
tag.

Andreas

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-10 Thread Kim Højgaard-Hansen
If you can't tag the release in Git initially because you might need
to re-roll the tarballs with fixes, then please include the commit IDs
in the announcement.

However, it seem to me that the main problem is that you are generally
not fond of doing bumps of the version after a e.g. 4.7.x release. We
often get these additional patches we need to apply also, instead of a
4.7.1.1 release.

Would it be too much work to do these updated releases? Then the tags
would always match the tarball versions

Best,

Kim
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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-08 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 08.10.11 01:10:50, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
 Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous
  tarballs, these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in
  git.
  
  What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git?
  I don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and would like
  to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not.
  dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime)
  84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)
 
 Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find problems in a
 non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one, but tags are immutable,
 so they should be created only once we're sure everything is okay.

Sorry thats wrong:

git tag -a 4.7.2
edit source file
git commit -a -m Blah
git tag -f -a 4.7.2

works just fine and you can push the result without needing the
force-parameter as long as the commit the tag points to now is a
successor of the one it pointed to before.

Andreas

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-08 Thread Yury G. Kudryashov
Andreas Pakulat wrote:

 On 08.10.11 01:10:50, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
 Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous
  tarballs, these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in
  git.
  
  What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git?
  I don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and would like
  to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not.
  dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime)
  84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)
 
 Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find problems in a
 non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one, but tags are immutable,
 so they should be created only once we're sure everything is okay.
 
 Sorry thats wrong:
 
 git tag -a 4.7.2
 edit source file
 git commit -a -m Blah
 git tag -f -a 4.7.2
 
 works just fine and you can push the result without needing the
 force-parameter as long as the commit the tag points to now is a
 successor of the one it pointed to before.
This would not automagically change tags in all local clones (at least until 
their owners will `git pull` again).
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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-08 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Andreas Pakulat wrote:

 On 08.10.11 01:10:50, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
 Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous
  tarballs, these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in
  git.
  
  What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git?
  I don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and would like
  to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not.
  dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime)
  84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)
 
 Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find problems in a
 non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one, but tags are immutable,
 so they should be created only once we're sure everything is okay.
 
 Sorry thats wrong:
 
 git tag -a 4.7.2
 edit source file
 git commit -a -m Blah
 git tag -f -a 4.7.2
 
 works just fine and you can push the result without needing the
 force-parameter as long as the commit the tag points to now is a
 successor of the one it pointed to before.

As far as I know, that's not the case for annotated tags. If a tag points at 
a commit A, it can be updated to commit B if A is an ancestor of B. But if 
the tag points at an annotated tag object which in turn points at commit A, 
you can't update it at all. There is nothing that can be a successor of the 
tag object.

-- 
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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-08 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 08.10.11 15:24:57, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
 
  On 08.10.11 01:10:50, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
  Andras Mantia wrote:
   On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous
   tarballs, these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in
   git.
   
   What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git?
   I don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and would like
   to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not.
   dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime)
   84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)
  
  Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find problems in a
  non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one, but tags are immutable,
  so they should be created only once we're sure everything is okay.
  
  Sorry thats wrong:
  
  git tag -a 4.7.2
  edit source file
  git commit -a -m Blah
  git tag -f -a 4.7.2
  
  works just fine and you can push the result without needing the
  force-parameter as long as the commit the tag points to now is a
  successor of the one it pointed to before.
 
 As far as I know, that's not the case for annotated tags. If a tag points at 
 a commit A, it can be updated to commit B if A is an ancestor of B. But if 
 the tag points at an annotated tag object which in turn points at commit A, 
 you can't update it at all. There is nothing that can be a successor of the 
 tag object.

Did you actually try it out? I've done this twice in the last 4 weeks at
work and did not run into any problems. And neither did I when I tried
right now :)

Andreas

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-07 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Andras Mantia wrote:
 On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous
 tarballs, these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in
 git.
 
 What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git?
 I don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and would like
 to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not.
 dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime)
 84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)

Tags are created *after* the tarballs. If packagers find problems in a
non-final tarball, Dirk can release a new one, but tags are immutable,
so they should be created only once we're sure everything is okay.

-- 
Nicolas


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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-05 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Wednesday 05 October 2011, Alberto Villa wrote:

 it built fine on freebsd. is there any idea on the release date? just
 to understand if it can match our own schedule (it's a matter of days
 before we freeze our repo)

We plan to push the announcement out today. 

Thanks,
Dirk

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-04 Thread Eric Hameleers

On Sun, 2 Oct 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:


Hi,

I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous tarballs, these
have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in git.

Let me know of any issues (my own build is still running). kde-l10n is still
being generated and will be uploaded in ~ 3 hours.

Thanks,
Dirk


Hi Dirk

Thanks for finally uploading the l10n tarballs, but still missing are 
kdeutils and kdeaccessibility. Could you upload those too please?


Cheers, Eric

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-04 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Tuesday 04 October 2011, Eric Hameleers wrote:

 Thanks for finally uploading the l10n tarballs, but still missing are
 kdeutils and kdeaccessibility. Could you upload those too please?

Sure, thanks for the reminder: 
1669d5179e339ebc2d88502c7af050d3  kdeaccessibility-4.7.2.tar.bz2
ea7888ad0752009b427065ceedc9e265  kdeutils-4.7.2.tar.bz2

Greetings,
Dirk
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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-02 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:42 Dirk Mueller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous
 tarballs, these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in
 git.

What does this mean, no 4.7.2 tag was created in git?
I don't see anything like that with git tag in kdepim and would like 
to check if some bugfix made into 4.7.2 or not.
dc60f1116dad12fbdd443a964d58eec7e5ed09fc (kdepim-runtime)
84edd007f903763b61296a84768e2f4c9f98113a (kdepimlibs)

Andras
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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-02 Thread Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
On Sunday 02 of October 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous tarballs,
 these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in git.
 
 Let me know of any issues (my own build is still running). kde-l10n is
 still being generated and will be uploaded in ~ 3 hours.

kdeaccessibility tarball is missing (was in 4.7.1)

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Re: KDE 4.7.2 (try#1) uploaded

2011-10-02 Thread Philip Muskovac

On 10/02/2011 06:27 PM, Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz wrote:

On Sunday 02 of October 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:

Hi,

I just finished uploading KDE 4.7.2 tarballs. Unlike previous tarballs,
these have been consistently taken from KDE/4.7 branch in git.

Let me know of any issues (my own build is still running). kde-l10n is
still being generated and will be uploaded in ~ 3 hours.


kdeaccessibility tarball is missing (was in 4.7.1)



Add kdeutils to that list, making it both split packages that are missing.

Philip Muskovac
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