Re: Showstoppers, was: Re: Fwd: Re: Release Mode

2007-11-30 Thread Jakob Petsovits
On Tuesday, 27. November 2007, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
 On Friday 23 November 2007 02:51:08 Jakob Petsovits wrote:
  http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec/apps#To_do_for_Oxygen
 
  @artists list:
  As those are considered showstoppers, I would ask you to put those
  preferences icons at the top of the icon priority list. Thanks!

 From the list, it looks rather complete already. (And from using it, as
 well.) I've seen that some blanks have been filled in recently. It would be 
 good to know where the artists see showstoppers currently. (Not only in
 icons, of course.) Marking the items that you consider showstopper is
 definitely helpful.

From the icon naming (not artistic or completeness) point of view, the one 
issue that I would consider a showstopper still (besides many suboptimal 
names that I'd like to see renamed but are not critical) is the edit icon 
(in the actions category) which absolutely needs to be renamed 
to object-edit so that unrelated icons like edit-undo or edit-find don't 
fall back to edit when other icon themes are used.

If someone with a full KDE checkout could provide me with a grep 
for \edit\ (which is impossible to do in lxr as it ignores the quotes),
I could work on replacing those occurrences. Hopefully there are not too many 
non-icon edit strings in there.
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Re: Showstoppers, was: Re: Fwd: Re: Release Mode

2007-11-27 Thread Torsten Rahn
  - QToolBox (Can someone show me what's wrong? I fail to find the issue 
here)

Well,last time I checked the whole QToolBox-Widget didn't get painted at all 
in Oxygen.
This means that e.g. Marble (which uses QToolBox) can't be used as intended as 
most of its features are hidden.

You can see it in:

http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.0-beta3/edu_marble.jpg

On the top left (where the empty space is located) the 
tabs Navigation, Legend and View  are missing. Switch to Plastique to 
see the difference.

This makes it basically impossible for users who are using Oxygen to access 
different maps, different map projections and to adjust map settings.

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Re: Showstoppers, was: Re: Fwd: Re: Release Mode

2007-11-27 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 11:30:49 Torsten Rahn wrote:
   - QToolBox (Can someone show me what's wrong? I fail to find the issue

 here)

 Well,last time I checked the whole QToolBox-Widget didn't get painted at
 all in Oxygen.
 This means that e.g. Marble (which uses QToolBox) can't be used as intended
 as most of its features are hidden.

 You can see it in:

 http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.0-beta3/edu_marble.jpg

 On the top left (where the empty space is located) the
 tabs Navigation, Legend and View  are missing. Switch to Plastique to
 see the difference.

 This makes it basically impossible for users who are using Oxygen to access
 different maps, different map projections and to adjust map settings.

Thanks for the explanation. Now it's clear to me.
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Re: [kde-artists] Showstoppers, was: Re: Fwd: Re: Release Mode

2007-11-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 27 November 2007, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
 Plasma:
   - Systray

patch on panel-devel fixes this ... we still don't have transparent 
backgrounds, but layouting and icons seem to work. the backgrounds is 
probably doable as well. but at least we have a systray. =)

there are other plasma issues, but at least this #1 is livable now.

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Release Mode

2007-11-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
The Release Team would like to see all KDE developers get into Release Mode.

This means:

- only bugfixes
- focus on the most visible components
- do polishing changes of the user interface now

One very important point of this is that we need to stop thinking in terms of 
the pieces we usually work on. Now we need to get into this final phase of 
trying the desktop, identify things that don't work well enough yet and try 
to make them work. Lend your fellow gearhead a hand.

This might mean for some to code outside your own pet-project. It means fix 
everything you can so we can all see the desktop getting better by the day.

It requires some effort from all of us. Getting KDE developers into Release 
Mode means that we now need to show that we do care about the bigger picture 
and that we need to help each other getting showstoppers out of the way and 
make stuff work. It also means a period of high strain on our nerves, we all 
know that this is not only about fun, but so be it. I will be fun again once 
we've done this heavy lifting.

Of course this all does not mean that everybody just cares about his own code 
right now, it means that we're close enough to the big release that some 
priorities need to shift.

This is the time to show that we do not only operate as a bunch of 
subprojects, this is the time to show the world that the KDE community -- 
diverse as it is -- can function as *one* team with *one* shared goal: 

Getting the next generation Free Desktop to the users. 

Once we have done that, we can get back to Fun Mode taking advantage of all 
the goodness that the pillars of KDE bring to us.

... so you feel like getting your hands dirty? The following pages contain 
list of bugs. Pick one and try to fix it. Then pick the next one.

- techbase beta goals page
  http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals
- techbase krushdays page
  http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/KrushDays
- bugzilla kde4 beta bugs
  http://bugs.kde.org

Get in contact with the relevant developer via IRC (#kde4-devel, #kde4-krush), 
if in doubt, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And don't forget, Saturday is the next KDE 4 Krushday.
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