Re: Release dates/nomenclature -- Revised proposal
October 22, 2007: Tagging Beta4 (Again, a Monday) October 30 2007: Release Beta4 (Beta4 is only 2 weeks long) Having a Beta for two weeks long makes no sense. Betas are made to get feedback from the people who are meant to test the beta release. Subtract 8 days for packaging from the 2 weeks and about 3-5 days until people manage to get the spare-time to look at the release. Then how much time do developers have left to fix the issue reported from the last Beta to get the feedback right in time into the next Beta? None. So in that case people will report the same bugs for the next Beta. Brilliant. November 13 2007: Tagging Release Candidate 1 (move closer to the freeze?) Same issue there. Too little feedback. Releases are not only there to pressure developers to get working but also to incorporate feedback from the testers. Personally I think the current suggested schedule is the first one that is close to being realistic. Except that I think that you won't be able to squeeze the release before Dec 20th without risking to delay the release highly likely again later on. Torsten November 5, 2007: Total Release Freeze (a Monday) November 20 2007: Release Release Candidate 1 November 21 2007: Tagging Release Candidate 2 (to close to -rc1?) Definetely too close to gather any useful feedback that -- Torsten Rahn Tel.: 0 21 61 - 46 43 - 192 credativ GmbH, HRB Mönchengladbach 12080 Hohenzollernstr. 133, 41061 Mönchengladbach Geschäftsführung: Dr. Michael Meskes, Jörg Folz ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Release dates/nomenclature -- Revised proposal
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:51:40 Allen Winter wrote: On Monday 03 September 2007 10:51:37 am Sebastian Kügler wrote: I've seen no reaction to this email, but I think the current schedule (release 20 dec) is broken (Dirk is on vacation, it's too close to christmas for PR). Can I at least get a shut up, you're irrelevant answer, maybe something more promising? Your counter-counter-proposal is close. Except that I try to schedule taggings on Wednesdays. That gives us 2 days to recover from BIC Mondays. Also, I like Dirk's idea of a libs release in late October. The libs release should include kdesupport, kdelibs, and kdepimlibs So please try again :) Thanks. I'll send it shortly, I'm at Linuxconf.eu right now. Expect it somewhen during the next two days (I'll give it a shot on the train tomorrow). -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Release dates/nomenclature -- Revised proposal
I've seen no reaction to this email, but I think the current schedule (release 20 dec) is broken (Dirk is on vacation, it's too close to christmas for PR). Can I at least get a shut up, you're irrelevant answer, maybe something more promising? On Saturday 01 September 2007 15:57:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:28:31 Kevin Ottens wrote: So let's aim for a release on my mother's birthday, 13th December. I vote for 6th December, it's my father birthday. That would be the tagging date then :-) How about this, then. It's mainly what Dirk and Allen proposed. Thursday, 6 September: Release Beta2 (already tagged) September 24, 2007: Tagging Beta3 (This is a Monday, does that make sense?) October 2 2007: Release Beta3 October 22, 2007: Tagging Beta4 (Again, a Monday) October 30 2007: Release Beta4 (Beta4 is only 2 weeks long) November 5, 2007: Total Release Freeze (a Monday) November 13 2007: Tagging Release Candidate 1 (move closer to the freeze?) November 20 2007: Release Release Candidate 1 November 21 2007: Tagging Release Candidate 2 (to close to -rc1?) November 27 2007: Release Release Candidate 2 December 6 2007: Tagging final Release December 13 2007: Targeted Release Date * We should probably move the tagging and release for the following betas closer to each other, maybe tagging on Fridays, releasing on Tuesdays? Is that doable for testing and packaging? * Should we move tagging away from Monday? Or when will we suspend the BIC Monday? -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Release dates/nomenclature -- Revised proposal
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:51, Allen Winter wrote: Also, I like Dirk's idea of a libs release in late October. I like this idea as well. The libs release should include kdesupport, kdelibs, and kdepimlibs Shouldn't it also include kdebase/runtime, so that it provides everything what is needed for third-party apps development? -- Cornelius Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
