RE: Oregon religious dress law
The legislature's passage of the bill is indeed a great victory for religious liberty. The garb law was one in a series of KKK-inspired anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant statutes enacted during the 20s, including the one that was the occasion for Pierce v Society of Sisters. (The then-Speaker of the Oregon House was the aptly named Klansman Kaspar K. Kubli.) Although the garb law was targeted at members of Catholic orders, nowadays Sikhs, Muslims and Orthodox Jews also fall within its ambit. Perhaps the most surprising thing about the legislative repeal effort was that its main opponent was the Oregon ACLU--not their finest hour. For those who may be interested, more information is available here: http://www.sikhcoalition.org/advisories/OregonSenateBanTeacher.htm http://www.ohs.org/education/oregonhistory/narratives/subtopic.cfm?subtopic_ID=83 Eric From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven K Green [sgr...@willamette.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:03 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Oregon religious dress law All, I am happy to report that the Oregon legislature today passed a law repealing the state's 85 year law banning public school teachers from wearing any distinctive religious clothing. The law prevented many Sikhs, Muslims and other religiously devout people from being teachers. The governor is likely to sign the bill. Steve Green Willamette University ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: Oregon religious dress law
Steve, That's great news. Steven K Green wrote: All, I am happy to report that the Oregon legislature today passed a law repealing the state's 85 year law banning public school teachers from wearing any distinctive religious clothing. The law prevented many Sikhs, Muslims and other religiously devout people from being teachers. The governor is likely to sign the bill. Steve Green Willamette University ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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"Under the bill as reported here,schools could not teach premarital sex was wrong" It sounds like a viewpoint based restriction on speech in private schools. DOA in USA. Rick Duncan Rick Duncan Welpton Professor of Law University of Nebraska College of Law Lincoln, NE 68583-0902 "And against the constitution I have never raised a storm,It's the scoundrels who've corrupted it that I want to reform" --Dick Gaughan (from the song, Thomas Muir of Huntershill) --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Marc Stern wrote: From: Marc Stern Subject: To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:24 PM Here is a link to a fight in england over a bill requiring sex ed in all schools including religious ones. Under the bill as reported here,schools could not teach premarital sex was wrong What result if passed here in us? Marc stern http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/23/sexually-confused-sex-education-faith-schools&ct=ga&cd=yVg0Ek2Zmiw&usg=AFQjCNFc-vZ5I1oIJnw3T__bLEs-xZYl7w - Original Message - From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Sent: Mon Feb 01 16:21:57 2010 Subject: Comments on Jim Ryan's "Smith and the Religious Freedom RestorationAct: An Iconoclastic Assessment," 78 Va. L. Rev. 1407 (1992)? Folks: I’m working on the Fourth Edition of my Academic Legal Writing textbook, and I wanted to add a chapter that contains an entire highly successful student Note – minus most footnotes – coupled with running commentary on why each section of the Note works (and, in some instances, how it might have been improved). I figured that I already give students plenty of examples of bad writing, but they needed an example of excellent writing, together with an analysis of what makes it excellent. The Note that I chose is Jim Ryan’s Smith and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act: An Iconoclastic Assessment, 78 Va. L. Rev. 1407 (1992). I like it a lot myself; I’ve heard good things about it from others; and I see that it has been cited over 120 times by law reviews articles. But I’d also like to include some anonymous quotes from scholars in the field, who briefly explain why they think this article is good. This, I think, will dovetail nicely with my own explanation of what I think the article does very well. (Quotes pointing to some weaknesses in the article would also be fine; I will mostly praise the article, but I’ll probably include some thoughts on how it could have been made still better.) If you recall the article, and have something to say about the article, could you e-mail me? My student readers and I will thank you for it. Many thanks, Eugene -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: Oregon religious dress law
All, I am happy to report that the Oregon legislature today passed a law repealing the state's 85 year law banning public school teachers from wearing any distinctive religious clothing. The law prevented many Sikhs, Muslims and other religiously devout people from being teachers. The governor is likely to sign the bill. Steve Green Willamette University ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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The result? Our teen pregnancy rate might drop; the STD rate among teens would drop; the HIV/AIDS rate would drop; and the abortion rate would drop. Presumably, all of these are things religious conservatives favor. However, some they would complain that by forcing knowledge on students the government was somehow violating their religious beliefs. Paul Finkelman President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law Albany Law School 80 New Scotland Avenue Albany, NY 12208 518-445-3386 (p) 518-445-3363 (f) paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu www.paulfinkelman.com --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Marc Stern wrote: From: Marc Stern Subject: To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 7:24 PM Here is a link to a fight in england over a bill requiring sex ed in all schools including religious ones. Under the bill as reported here,schools could not teach premarital sex was wrong What result if passed here in us? Marc stern http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/23/sexually-confused-sex-education-faith-schools&ct=ga&cd=yVg0Ek2Zmiw&usg=AFQjCNFc-vZ5I1oIJnw3T__bLEs-xZYl7w - Original Message - From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Sent: Mon Feb 01 16:21:57 2010 Subject: Comments on Jim Ryan's "Smith and the Religious Freedom RestorationAct: An Iconoclastic Assessment," 78 Va. L. Rev. 1407 (1992)? Folks: I’m working on the Fourth Edition of my Academic Legal Writing textbook, and I wanted to add a chapter that contains an entire highly successful student Note – minus most footnotes – coupled with running commentary on why each section of the Note works (and, in some instances, how it might have been improved). I figured that I already give students plenty of examples of bad writing, but they needed an example of excellent writing, together with an analysis of what makes it excellent. The Note that I chose is Jim Ryan’s Smith and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act: An Iconoclastic Assessment, 78 Va. L. Rev. 1407 (1992). I like it a lot myself; I’ve heard good things about it from others; and I see that it has been cited over 120 times by law reviews articles. But I’d also like to include some anonymous quotes from scholars in the field, who briefly explain why they think this article is good. This, I think, will dovetail nicely with my own explanation of what I think the article does very well. (Quotes pointing to some weaknesses in the article would also be fine; I will mostly praise the article, but I’ll probably include some thoughts on how it could have been made still better.) If you recall the article, and have something to say about the article, could you e-mail me? My student readers and I will thank you for it. Many thanks, Eugene -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: premarital sex is wrong?
Let's just add it to the Pledge of Allegiance. Then we'll know how to deal with it. "One Nation, where premarital sex is OK under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." :-) Art Spitzer In a message dated 2/23/10 7:25:29 PM, mst...@ajcongress.org writes: > Here is a link to a fight in england over a bill requiring sex ed in all > schools including religious ones. Under the bill as reported here,schools > could not teach premarital sex was wrong > What result if passed here in us? > Marc stern > http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&; > q=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/23/sexually-confused-sex-education-faith-schools&ct=ga&; > cd=yVg0Ek2Zmiw&usg=AFQjCNFc-vZ5I1oIJnw3T__bLEs-xZYl7w > > ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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Here is a link to a fight in england over a bill requiring sex ed in all schools including religious ones. Under the bill as reported here,schools could not teach premarital sex was wrong What result if passed here in us? Marc stern http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/23/sexually-confused-sex-education-faith-schools&ct=ga&cd=yVg0Ek2Zmiw&usg=AFQjCNFc-vZ5I1oIJnw3T__bLEs-xZYl7w - Original Message - From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Sent: Mon Feb 01 16:21:57 2010 Subject: Comments on Jim Ryan's "Smith and the Religious Freedom RestorationAct: An Iconoclastic Assessment," 78 Va. L. Rev. 1407 (1992)? Folks: I’m working on the Fourth Edition of my Academic Legal Writing textbook, and I wanted to add a chapter that contains an entire highly successful student Note – minus most footnotes – coupled with running commentary on why each section of the Note works (and, in some instances, how it might have been improved). I figured that I already give students plenty of examples of bad writing, but they needed an example of excellent writing, together with an analysis of what makes it excellent. The Note that I chose is Jim Ryan’s Smith and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act: An Iconoclastic Assessment, 78 Va. L. Rev. 1407 (1992). I like it a lot myself; I’ve heard good things about it from others; and I see that it has been cited over 120 times by law reviews articles. But I’d also like to include some anonymous quotes from scholars in the field, who briefly explain why they think this article is good. This, I think, will dovetail nicely with my own explanation of what I think the article does very well. (Quotes pointing to some weaknesses in the article would also be fine; I will mostly praise the article, but I’ll probably include some thoughts on how it could have been made still better.) If you recall the article, and have something to say about the article, could you e-mail me? My student readers and I will thank you for it. Many thanks, Eugene ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
