Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Len]

The Court would be remiss if it did not take all steps to authenticate the 
Ambassador's credentials: subpoena the plaintiff(s). 



- Original Message -

From: "Daniel O. Conkle"  
To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics"  
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:01:56 AM 
Subject: RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus 



Cf. United States ex rel. Mayo v. Satan and His Staff, 54 F.R.D. 282 (W.D.Pa. 
1971) - dismissed on procedural grounds, with court citing personal 
jurisdiction and service of process difficulties. 



Dan Conkle 
 
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Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law 
Indiana University Maurer School of Law 
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(812) 855-4331 
fax (812) 855-0555 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:55 AM 
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics 
Subject: Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus 





Please pardon the intrusion. Apparently the filing is real: 





http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317 





I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it. 











-Leonard A. Zanger 



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Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM 
Subject: law suit on behalf of Jesus 





Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone 
know? Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a 
power of attorney signed by one or both? 








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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[K Chen]

Maybe (Mark 15:34), maybe not (John 19:30), but I was more thinking that
the plaintiff is not a member of the Nebraska bar.

Sent on my mobile device. Please Excuse my brevity and typographic errors.
On May 6, 2015 3:18 PM, "Steven Jamar"  wrote:

> But Kevin, are their interests really adverse?
>
> On May 6, 2015, at 2:25 PM, K Chen  wrote:
>
> An alternative would be to refer the plaintiff to the Nebraska Supreme
> Court for unauthorized practice of law concerning her purported
> representation of two persons. The Holy Spirit, alas, has been forgotten as
> always.
>
> Kevin Chen
>
> Sent on my mobile device. Please Excuse my brevity and typographic errors.
> On May 6, 2015 2:12 PM, "Steven Jamar"  wrote:
>
>> Ah yes.  And so the emissary from God cannot be recognized as such by the
>> court because it is a political question to be decided in the first
>> instance by the executive.  Layers and layers in this.
>>
>> On May 6, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene  wrote:
>>
>>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>>
>>Eugene
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Steven Jamar]

But Kevin, are their interests really adverse?

> On May 6, 2015, at 2:25 PM, K Chen  wrote:
> 
> An alternative would be to refer the plaintiff to the Nebraska Supreme Court 
> for unauthorized practice of law concerning her purported representation of 
> two persons. The Holy Spirit, alas, has been forgotten as always.
> 
> Kevin Chen
> 
> Sent on my mobile device. Please Excuse my brevity and typographic errors.
> 
> On May 6, 2015 2:12 PM, "Steven Jamar"  > wrote:
> Ah yes.  And so the emissary from God cannot be recognized as such by the 
> court because it is a political question to be decided in the first instance 
> by the executive.  Layers and layers in this.
> 
>> On May 6, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene > > wrote:
>> 
>>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>>  
>>Eugene
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Nothing worth doing is completed in our lifetime, 
Therefore, we are saved by hope. 
Nothing true or beautiful or good makes complete sense in any immediate context 
of history; 
Therefore, we are saved by faith. 
Nothing we do, however virtuous, can be accomplished alone. 
Therefore, we are saved by love. 
No virtuous act is quite as virtuous from the standpoint of our friend or foe 
as from our own; 
Therefore, we are saved by the final form of love which is forgiveness. 

Reinhold Neibuhr




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RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[K Chen]

There is anecdotal evidence if his presense in US territories (Book of
Mormon, 3 Nephi) Perhaps Jesus should be treated as a citizen of an
Amerindian tribe?

Sent on my mobile device. Please Excuse my brevity and typographic errors.
On May 6, 2015 2:41 PM, "Volokh, Eugene"  wrote:

>Well, there’s no evidence that either God or Jesus was born
> in the U.S., or ever naturalized here.
>
>
>
>Eugene
>
>
>
> *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:
> religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Arthur Spitzer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:17 AM
> *To:* Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
> *Subject:* Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus
>
>
>
> You're assuming He/She is foreign?
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene 
> wrote:
>
>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>
>
>
>Eugene
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RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Volokh, Eugene]

   Well, there’s no evidence that either God or Jesus was born in 
the U.S., or ever naturalized here.

   Eugene

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Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:17 AM
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You're assuming He/She is foreign?

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene 
mailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu>> wrote:
   But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?

   Eugene

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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[K Chen]

Of course he is. Jesus has been held out as King of the Jews (John 12:15)
recognized so by the imperial power for the territory (Matthew 27:37) and
is, at a minimum, vice-regent of a power claiming imperial supremecy over
all the world  (1 Peter 3:22). Recognizing, or not, an ambassador, and
thus, the legitmacy of that foreign sovereign and the laws it has passed,
see U.S. v  Belmont, falls squarely within the discretionary powers of the
executive.

Sent on my mobile device. Please Excuse my brevity and typographic errors.
On May 6, 2015 2:21 PM, "Arthur Spitzer"  wrote:

> You're assuming He/She is foreign?
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene 
> wrote:
>
>>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>>
>>
>>
>>Eugene
>>
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[K Chen]

An alternative would be to refer the plaintiff to the Nebraska Supreme
Court for unauthorized practice of law concerning her purported
representation of two persons. The Holy Spirit, alas, has been forgotten as
always.

Kevin Chen

Sent on my mobile device. Please Excuse my brevity and typographic errors.
On May 6, 2015 2:12 PM, "Steven Jamar"  wrote:

> Ah yes.  And so the emissary from God cannot be recognized as such by the
> court because it is a political question to be decided in the first
> instance by the executive.  Layers and layers in this.
>
> On May 6, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene  wrote:
>
>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>
>Eugene
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Arthur Spitzer]

You're assuming He/She is foreign?


On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene  wrote:

>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>
>
>
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Steven Jamar]

Ah yes.  And so the emissary from God cannot be recognized as such by the court 
because it is a political question to be decided in the first instance by the 
executive.  Layers and layers in this.

> On May 6, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Volokh, Eugene  wrote:
> 
>But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?
>  
>Eugene
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RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Volokh, Eugene]

   But what about the Ambassador Reception Clause?

   Eugene
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RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[K Chen]

The plantiff lacks signed credentials as a minister plenipotentiary with
respect to the Kingdom of Heaven. Also an issue of service of process.

Kevin Chen

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On May 6, 2015 11:11 AM, "Conkle, Daniel O."  wrote:

>  Cf. United States ex rel. Mayo v. Satan and His Staff, 54 F.R.D. 282 (
> W.D.Pa. 1971) - dismissed on procedural grounds, with court citing
> personal jurisdiction and service of process difficulties.
>
>
>
> Dan Conkle
> 
> Daniel O. Conkle
> Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law
> Indiana University Maurer School of Law
> Bloomington, Indiana  47405
> (812) 855-4331
> fax (812) 855-0555
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> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:
> religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Len
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:55 AM
> *To:* Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
> *Subject:* Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus
>
>
>
> Please pardon the intrusion.  Apparently the filing is real:
>
>
>
> http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317
>
>
>
> I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Leonard A. Zanger
>
>
>  --
>
> *From: *"Paul Finkelman" 
> *To: *"Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <
> religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM
> *Subject: *law suit on behalf of Jesus
>
>
>
> Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone
> know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a
> power of attorney signed by one or both?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally
>
>
>
>
> *
> Paul Finkelman
>
> *Senior Fellow*
>
> *Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism*
>
> *University of Pennsylvania*
>
> *and*
>
> *Scholar-in-Residence *
>
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>
> *Philadelphia, Pennsylvania*
>
>
>
> 518-439-7296 (p)
>
> 518-605-0296 (c)
>
>
>
> paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu
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RE: Louisiana "Fix"? (and the interesting impact of the Bob Jones debate)

[Doug Laycock]

This all has to be about posturing for the base; none of it makes much sense. 

 

Louisiana law can do nothing about the IRS going after tax exemptions. Verrilli 
was not talking about state tax exemptions. Louisiana has no gay-rights law, so 
there was no risk of fines or damages before the amendment; the amendment means 
the bill would no longer protect against that theoretical risk.

 

I am told that New Orleans and Shreveport do have gay-rights laws. But the bill 
does not mention local government and appears not to apply to them. Does anyone 
know if Louisiana law considers local governments to be a “branch of the 
government of the state of Louisiana”?

 

Douglas Laycock

Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law

University of Virginia Law School

580 Massie Road

Charlottesville, VA  22903

 434-243-8546

 

From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of James Oleske
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 12:20 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Louisiana "Fix"? (and the interesting impact of the Bob Jones debate)

 

The Times-Picayune is reporting that the proposed Louisiana Marriage and 
Conscience Protection Act -- which is being championed by Governor Bobby 
Jindal, but which has generated business opposition reminiscent of what we saw 
in Indiana -- is being tweaked "to appease critics by limiting when protections 
of those who oppose same-sex marriage would apply." According to the story, the 
adverse state actions prohibited in the law will now be limited to specific 
actions such as revoking licenses and denying tax benefits, and the bill will 
no longer include the catch-all phrase "otherwise discriminate against or 
disadvantage."

 

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/05/louisiana_religious_freedom_le.html

 

The catch-all phrase appears to be the only operative language in the original 
bill that might have prevented municipalities like New Orleans and Shreveport 
from fining businesses that refuse to provide services to same-sex couples. At 
first, it seems very odd that the bill's sponsor, Rep. Mike Johnson, would 
agree to remove this language given that the promotional video he just released 
about the bill starts by highlighting the fines that have been imposed on three 
such businesses in other states. (The video can be viewed at the bottom of the 
Times-Picayune story). It's also seems odd because Gov. Jindal has consistently 
highlighted the business-fine cases when describing the need for the bill.

 

Before the Obergefell arguments, Gov. Jindal had a dilemma on his hands. On the 
one hand, he had staked his credibility in the GOP presidential primary on his 
claim that he wouldn't back down on religious liberty like other Republican 
Governors (read: Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson) and would pass a meaningful 
religious liberty bill. On the other hand, back home, IBM, the New Orleans 
convention bureau, and the Senate president had all come out against the 
Johnson bill. Supporting a "fix" presumably would be a nonstarter with the 
primary audience in Iowa, but a bill without a fix looked like a sure loser 
back home.

 

So what changed? How might it be possible for Gov. Jindal to accept a fix and 
still claim that the bill is meaningfully protecting religious liberty?

 

The answer would appear to be found at minute 2:23 of Johnson's promotional 
video, when an image of the Solicitor General appears on the screen, with the 
warning that he admitted "religious institutions can be at risk of losing their 
tax-exempt status." As the Times-Picayune story notes, Johnson is now arguing 
that the SG's admission validates the need for his bill. And since the bill as 
amended would still prohibit the state from stripping tax-exempt status from 
institutions that oppose same-sex marriage, it can suddenly be relevant even 
without the provision that would have protected small businesses against fines.

 

- Jim

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Louisiana "Fix"? (and the interesting impact of the Bob Jones debate)

[James Oleske]

The Times-Picayune is reporting that the proposed Louisiana Marriage and
Conscience Protection Act -- which is being championed by Governor Bobby
Jindal, but which has generated business opposition reminiscent of what we
saw in Indiana -- is being tweaked "to appease critics by limiting when
protections of those who oppose same-sex marriage would apply." According
to the story, the adverse state actions prohibited in the law will now be
limited to specific actions such as revoking licenses and denying tax
benefits, and the bill will no longer include the catch-all phrase
"otherwise discriminate against or disadvantage."

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/05/louisiana_religious_freedom_le.html

The catch-all phrase appears to be the only operative language in the
original bill that might have prevented municipalities like New Orleans and
Shreveport from fining businesses that refuse to provide services to
same-sex couples. At first, it seems very odd that the bill's sponsor, Rep.
Mike Johnson, would agree to remove this language given that the
promotional video he just released about the bill starts by highlighting
the fines that have been imposed on three such businesses in other states.
(The video can be viewed at the bottom of the Times-Picayune story). It's
also seems odd because Gov. Jindal has consistently highlighted the
business-fine cases when describing the need for the bill.

Before the Obergefell arguments, Gov. Jindal had a dilemma on his hands. On
the one hand, he had staked his credibility in the GOP presidential primary
on his claim that he wouldn't back down on religious liberty like other
Republican Governors (read: Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson) and would pass a
meaningful religious liberty bill. On the other hand, back home, IBM, the
New Orleans convention bureau, and the Senate president had all come out
against the Johnson bill. Supporting a "fix" presumably would be a
nonstarter with the primary audience in Iowa, but a bill without a fix
looked like a sure loser back home.

So what changed? How might it be possible for Gov. Jindal to accept a fix
and still claim that the bill is meaningfully protecting religious liberty?

The answer would appear to be found at minute 2:23 of Johnson's promotional
video, when an image of the Solicitor General appears on the screen, with
the warning that he admitted "religious institutions can be at risk of
losing their tax-exempt status." As the Times-Picayune story notes, Johnson
is now arguing that the SG's admission validates the need for his bill. And
since the bill as amended would still prohibit the state from stripping
tax-exempt status from institutions that oppose same-sex marriage, it can
suddenly be relevant even without the provision that would have protected
small businesses against fines.

- Jim
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Steven Jamar]

Everyone knows that God’s domicile for jurisdictional purpose is Minnesota, 
aka, God’s country.

Steve

> On May 6, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Jeremy Mallory  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I wonder if this means that God is now subject to personal jurisdiction 
> in Nebraska. Ernest Chambers will be happy to hear that.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>>  Conkle, Daniel O.    May 6, 2015 at 9:01 AM
>> Cf. United States ex rel. Mayo v. Satan and His Staff, 54 F.R.D. 282 
>> (W.D.Pa. 1971) - dismissed on procedural grounds, with court citing personal 
>> jurisdiction and service of process difficulties.  
>>  
>> Dan Conkle 
>>  
>> Daniel O. Conkle 
>> Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law 
>> Indiana University Maurer School of Law 
>> Bloomington, Indiana  47405 
>> (812) 855-4331 
>> fax (812) 855-0555 
>> e-mail con...@indiana.edu  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
>>  
>> [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
>> ] On Behalf Of Len
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:55 AM
>> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
>> Subject: Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus
>>  
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>>  Len    May 6, 2015 at 5:55 AM
>> Please pardon the intrusion.  Apparently the filing is real:
>> 
>> http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317 
>> 
>> 
>> I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Leonard A. Zanger
>> 
>> From: "Paul Finkelman"  
>> 
>> To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics"  
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM
>> Subject: law suit on behalf of Jesus
>> 
>> Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone 
>> know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a 
>> power of attorney signed by one or both?
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> *
>> Paul Finkelman
>> Senior Fellow
>> Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism
>> University of Pennsylvania
>> and
>> Scholar-in-Residence 
>> National Constitution Center
>> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
>>  
>> 518-439-7296 (p)
>> 518-605-0296 (c)
>>  
>> paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu 
>> www.paulfinkelman.com 
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>> 
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>>  Finkelman, Paul    May 6, 2015 at 
>> 12:11 AM
>> Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone 
>> kno

Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Paul Finkelman]

Not an intrusion; I just wanted confirmation that it was real.  
 
**
Paul Finkelman, Ph.D.
Senior Fellow
 Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism
 University of Pennsylvania
 and 
 Scholar-in-Residence  
 National Constitution Center 
 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 
 518-439-7296 (w)
 518-605-0296 (c) 
 paul.finkel...@yahoo.com 
www.paulfinkelman.com
  From: Len 
 To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 5:55 AM
 Subject: Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus
   
Please pardon the intrusion.  Apparently the filing is real:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317
I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it.



-Leonard A. Zanger

From: "Paul Finkelman" 
To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM
Subject: law suit on behalf of Jesus



Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone 
know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a 
power of attorney signed by one or both?

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally
 *
 Paul FinkelmanSenior FellowPenn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and 
ConstitutionalismUniversity of PennsylvaniaandScholar-in-Residence National 
Constitution CenterPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania 518-439-7296 (p)518-605-0296 (c) 
paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu
www.paulfinkelman.com
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Paul Finkelman]

Senator Ernie  Chambers -- from March v. Chambers, has apparently responded by 
suing G-d for creating natural disasters.  
 State Sen. Ernie Chambers Sues God
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| State Sen. Ernie Chambers Sues GodDiscuss |
|  |
| View on www.ketv.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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|   |

  
**
Paul Finkelman, Ph.D.
Senior Fellow
 Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism
 University of Pennsylvania
 and 
 Scholar-in-Residence  
 National Constitution Center 
 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 
 518-439-7296 (w)
 518-605-0296 (c) 
 paul.finkel...@yahoo.com 
www.paulfinkelman.com
  From: "Conkle, Daniel O." 
 To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:01 AM
 Subject: RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus
   
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F.R.D. 282 (W.D.Pa. 1971) - dismissed on procedural grounds, with court citing 
personal jurisdiction and service of process difficulties.      Dan Conkle

Daniel O. Conkle
Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law
Indiana University Maurer School of Law
Bloomington, Indiana  47405
(812) 855-4331
fax (812) 855-0555
e-mail con...@indiana.edu 
          

From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu]On Behalf Of Len
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:55 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus    Please pardon the intrusion.  
Apparently the filing is real:    
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317    I hope 
Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it.          -Leonard A. 
Zanger    From:"Paul Finkelman" 
To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM
Subject: law suit on behalf of Jesus    Someone just send me this; it seems 
like it might be real, but does anyone know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit 
on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a power of attorney signed by one or both?    
   
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally
 
   *
Paul Finkelman Senior Fellow Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and 
Constitutionalism University of Pennsylvania and Scholar-in-Residence  National 
Constitution Center Philadelphia, Pennsylvania   518-439-7296 (p) 518-605-0296 
(c)   paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu www.paulfinkelman.com 
*


 
   
   
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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Jeremy Mallory]

Hmm. I wonder if this means that God is now subject to personal 
jurisdiction in Nebraska. Ernest Chambers will be happy to hear that.


Jeremy


Conkle, Daniel O. 
May 6, 2015 at 9:01 AM

Cf. United States ex rel. Mayo v. Satan and His Staff, 54 F.R.D. 282 
(W.D.Pa. 1971) - dismissed on procedural grounds, with court citing 
personal jurisdiction and service of process difficulties.


Dan Conkle

Daniel O. Conkle
Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law
Indiana University Maurer School of Law
Bloomington, Indiana  47405
(812) 855-4331
fax (812) 855-0555
e-mail con...@indiana.edu 


*From:*religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Len

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:55 AM
*To:* Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
*Subject:* Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

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Len 
May 6, 2015 at 5:55 AM
Please pardon the intrusion.  Apparently the filing is real:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317

I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it.



-Leonard A. Zanger


*From: *"Paul Finkelman" 
*To: *"Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" 


*Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM
*Subject: *law suit on behalf of Jesus

Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does 
anyone know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or 
G-d without a power of attorney signed by one or both?



http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally

*
Paul Finkelman
/Senior Fellow/
/Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism/
/University of Pennsylvania/
/and/
/Scholar-in-Residence /
/National Constitution Center/
/Philadelphia, Pennsylvania/
518-439-7296 (p)
518-605-0296 (c)
paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu 
www.paulfinkelman.com 
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Finkelman, Paul 
May 6, 2015 at 12:11 AM
Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does 
anyone know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or 
G-d without a power of attorney signed by one or both?



http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally 



*
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/University of Pennsylvania/
/and/
/Scholar-in-Residence /
/National Constitution Center/
/Philadelphia, Pennsylvania/
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RE: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Conkle, Daniel O.]

Cf. United States ex rel. Mayo v. Satan and His Staff, 54 F.R.D. 282 (W.D.Pa. 
1971) - dismissed on procedural grounds, with court citing personal 
jurisdiction and service of process difficulties.

Dan Conkle

Daniel O. Conkle
Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law
Indiana University Maurer School of Law
Bloomington, Indiana  47405
(812) 855-4331
fax (812) 855-0555
e-mail con...@indiana.edu




From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Len
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:55 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

Please pardon the intrusion.  Apparently the filing is real:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317

I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it.



-Leonard A. Zanger


From: "Paul Finkelman" 
mailto:paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu>>
To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" 
mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM
Subject: law suit on behalf of Jesus

Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone 
know?  Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a 
power of attorney signed by one or both?


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally


*
Paul Finkelman
Senior Fellow
Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism
University of Pennsylvania
and
Scholar-in-Residence
National Constitution Center
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

518-439-7296 (p)
518-605-0296 (c)

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Re: law suit on behalf of Jesus

[Len]

Please pardon the intrusion. Apparently the filing is real: 

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nebraska/nedce/8:2015cv00158/69317 

I hope Judge Gerrard isn't too hard on her when he tosses it. 



-Leonard A. Zanger 

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From: "Paul Finkelman"  
To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics"  
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:11:32 AM 
Subject: law suit on behalf of Jesus 

Someone just send me this; it seems like it might be real, but does anyone 
know? Can the plaintiff bring the suit on behalf of Jesus or G-d without a 
power of attorney signed by one or both? 


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/nebraska_woman_sues_all_homosexuals_in_federal_court_because_jesus_literally
 

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Paul Finkelman 
Senior Fellow 
Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism 
University of Pennsylvania 
and 
Scholar-in-Residence 
National Constitution Center 
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 
518-439-7296 (p) 
518-605-0296 (c) 
paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu 
www.paulfinkelman.com 
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