indana legislative prayer
Attached is the decision invalidating Indianas legislative prayer on the ground that it was too sectarian. Marc Stern Title: U.S. District Court - Southern District of Indiana !-- saved from url=(0029)http://www.insd.uscourts.gov/ -- FRAMESET border=0 frameSpacing=0 rows=112,* frameBorder=0FRAME name=banner src=hinrichs_files/default_top.htm noResize scrolling=no target=contentsFRAMESET cols=245,*FRAME name=contents src=hinrichs_files/default_menu.htm scrolling=no target=mainFRAME name=main src=hinrichs_files/1-05-cv-0813%20Opinion.pdf target=_self/FRAMESET/FRAMESET ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
RE: indana legislative prayer
I am unable to open the attachment. Could you provide a site? Joel L. Sogol Attorney at Law 811 21st Ave. Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35401 ph: 205-345-0966 fx: 205-345-0971 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Franklin observed that truth wins a fair fight -- which is why we have evidence rules in U.S. courts. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Stern Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:47 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: indana legislative prayer Attached is the decision invalidating Indianas legislative prayer on the ground that it was too sectarian. Marc Stern ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
RE: indana legislative prayer
It is available on the website of the District Court for the Southern District of Indiana. Marc Un From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:52 PM To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: indana legislative prayer I am unable to open the attachment. Could you provide a site? Joel L. Sogol Attorney at Law 811 21st Ave. Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35401 ph: 205-345-0966 fx: 205-345-0971 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Franklin observed that truth wins a fair fight -- which is why we have evidence rules in U.S. courts. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Stern Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:47 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: indana legislative prayer Attached is the decision invalidating Indianas legislative prayer on the ground that it was too sectarian. Marc Stern ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
RE: indana legislative prayer
Title: Message Not surprisingly, this decision is getting a lot of attention here in the heartland. Both the Republican Speaker of the Indiana House (the defendant in the case) and the Democratic minority leader are strongly critical of the ruling, calling itinconsistent with longstanding tradition, religious freedom, the free speech of the invited ministers, etc. For myself, I think Judge Hamilton's opinion generally is quite thoughtful and well-reasoned Even so, I had a few questions after reading the opinion: (1) Is Judge Hamilton's ruling affirming taxpayer standing well-grounded, even though there is no specific governmental expenditure that is directly linked to impermissible *sectarian* as opposed to permissible *nonsectarian* prayer? (I think there may be a "level of generality" sort of issue here.) (2) On the merits, is judicial relief appropriate only because the prayers have been predominately sectarian? Or could a similar injunction properly be issued against other legislatures or city councils, etc.,based on a far less pervasive problem, e.g., on evidence that an occasional prayer by an invited clergy person has been concluded "in the name of Jesus," etc.? (3) Is the opinion a bit overbroad in barring all prayers that "us[e] Christ's name or title or any other denominational appeal"? Dan Conkle ** Daniel O. Conkle Professor of Law Indiana University School of Law Bloomington, Indiana 47405 (812) 855-4331 fax (812) 855-0555 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc SternSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:47 AMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: indana legislative prayer Attached is the decision invalidating Indianas legislative prayer on the ground that it was too sectarian. Marc Stern ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
RE: indana legislative prayer
Title: Message It's the first opinion on the following web site: http://www.insd.uscourts.gov/ The case isHinrichs v. Bosma. Dan Conkle -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoelSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:52 PMTo: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics'Subject: RE: indana legislative prayer I am unable to open the attachment. Could you provide a site? Joel L. Sogol Attorney at Law 811 21st Ave. Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35401 ph: 205-345-0966 fx: 205-345-0971 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Franklin observed that truth wins a fair fight -- which is why we have evidence rules in U.S. courts. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc SternSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:47 AMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: indana legislative prayer Attached is the decision invalidating Indianas legislative prayer on the ground that it was too sectarian. Marc Stern ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
