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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pac/Rt
Would a more practical application for a radio like this ...say make it into a cross band link type of system? I have the H13TTY3110ASP29 model,but no manual or schematic with mineso knowing what the pin outs are is a great mystery right now. Bob KC4QLP Amateur Radio-- Skywarn monitor-AKQ-Wakefield Va www.qsl.net/kc4qlp Echolink node # 56703 -145.250/R VHF,440.850/L UHF,29.550/RB VHF ___ * List owner: Group name: Echolink-Open-List Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Echolink-Open-List Group email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] The reason I started - - addition: forgot to mention...
I can echo that reply... I take care of a few Yahoo groups regarding ARES/RACES in the Virginia Section. Nothing gets posted without review... we are trying to get young hams involved, and the last thing I want to see is "smut" tarnishing the image of ham radio in the eyes of their parents. I can't count the number of times I have denied application for posting to porno spammers!! Mike K5JMP At 01:38 PM 02/09/2004 -0800, you wrote: At 01:45 AM 2/9/04 +, you wrote: >The reason I started the group on MSN is for the need for information >on converting a mitrek and building a repeater. The mitrek group here >is very slow on posting new messages. Some I submitted 4 days ago >have yet to be posted. While some groups may have a need to moderate >the messages, I don't see a need for it here. Forgot to mention... You haven't seen the BS that the moderation takes out. Would you like to see a dozen porn web site advertisements or penis enlargement messages a day? Or advertisements for religious web sites (especially islamic sites)? Anyway, now you know why almost all the lists are set up to block postings from nonmembers, and new members are automatically on moderation until the list owner has gained confidence in them. Mike Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Mike Perryman Cavell, Mertz & Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMP Manassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] The reason I started - - addition: forgot to mention...
At 01:45 AM 2/9/04 +, you wrote: >The reason I started the group on MSN is for the need for information >on converting a mitrek and building a repeater. The mitrek group here >is very slow on posting new messages. Some I submitted 4 days ago >have yet to be posted. While some groups may have a need to moderate >the messages, I don't see a need for it here. Forgot to mention... You haven't seen the BS that the moderation takes out. Would you like to see a dozen porn web site advertisements or penis enlargement messages a day? Or advertisements for religious web sites (especially islamic sites)? Anyway, now you know why almost all the lists are set up to block postings from nonmembers, and new members are automatically on moderation until the list owner has gained confidence in them. Mike Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pac/Rt
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> At 07:22 PM 2/8/04 -0800, you wrote:
>
>> Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> At 02:51 PM 2/8/04 +, you wrote:
>>
>> >hi
>> >I dont know if some one can tell me how i setup Motorola Pac/Rt
>> >mobile repeater, VHF, Model H13TTY3110ASP29 to stand alone repeater
>>
>> The short answer is you can't.
>>
>> It's a unit deigned to connect to the audio lines and PTT of an existing
>> mobile radio and allow use of that radio via a hand-held radio.
>>
>> Picture a state police officer making a traffic stop on a highway.
>> Before he gets out of his patrol car he flips on the PAC/RT and
>> walks back to have a chat with the motorist.
>>
>> His mobile radio hears a signal and that audio is transmitted by the
>> 1/4 watt transmitter in the PAC-RT to the officer. He answers by
>> pressing the PTT button on the handheld, and the PAC-RT receives
>> the signal and keys the mobile TX.
>>
>> If a second patrol car arrives on the scene and enables his PAC-RT
>> the first one is shut off.
>>
>> All of this is done on a simplex channel.
>>
>> A similar product can be found at
>>
>> Read that web page for the theory of how it works.
>>
>> I've had a high band PAC-RT on the shelf for 10 years. I haven't
>> found a use for it yet.
>>
>> It's based on a low-end walkie talkie, with the transmitter castrated
>> back to one-quarter of a watt, with a very poor front end, and to change
>> the frequency you need to order a new crystal and install it into a
>> channel element.
>> High band PAC-RTs were used on low band and UHF mobiles. UHF
>> ones were used on high band and low band mobiles.
>> A few ham radio operators here in the Los Angeles area played with
>> them over a dozen years ago and while they did work, they were not
>> practical in an area with a lot of repeaters... you might as well have
>> the
>> handheld talk to the repeater rather then talk to your car which talks
>> to the repeater.
>>
>> Mike WA6ILQ
>>
>>
>> motorola originally called the pac/rt a mobile repeater in actuallity
>> its really a portable extender [ ie.> if your down in a gully with a
>> portable checking out a car crash -your car is way above you on the
>> highway ...instead of running up the embankment to talk to your base
>> ..you call on your portable which forces the mobile in the car to
>> transmit with its full { lets say 100 watt mitrek} the base hears your
>> message and responds ..your mobile in turn causes your pac/rt to
>> transmit back to your portable } biggest draw back was its only 1/4
>> watt output on the portable channel...its amazing what motorola did
>> with all those handie-com portables left over before they made the
>> ht90/440 series radio's huh ?
>
>
> And it wasn't that hard to bump the handi-coms to amateur channels - 2m or
> 440 - or to put the missing final transistor back in. And I saw more
> than one
> that had a different radio patched in place of the handi-com - even a
> Midland
> 13-509 220mhz mobile (modified for solid-state-switching).
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
That's another strange comment-I haven't fired up the ones I have, but I
remember that a local (very small) PD near where I used to live had a
VHF one in the chief's car tied to the 39Mhz mobile. I was working for a
'basement MSS' at the time, and was told that that unit put out about
1-2 W. The chief would park the car at the station, turn on the PAC-RT,
and use his portable all over town! He said there wasn't much of
anywhere in town he couldn't go...heh
(It WAS one of the very first ones out there, back around 1979-80 I think.)
--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pac/Rt
At 07:22 PM 2/8/04 -0800, you wrote:
Mike Morris WA6ILQ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 02:51 PM 2/8/04 +, you wrote:
>hi
>I dont know if some one can tell me how i setup Motorola
Pac/Rt
>mobile repeater, VHF, Model H13TTY3110ASP29 to stand alone
repeater
The short answer is you can't.
It's a unit deigned to connect to the audio lines and PTT of an
existing
mobile radio and allow use of that radio via a hand-held
radio.
Picture a state police officer making a traffic stop on a
highway.
Before he gets out of his patrol car he flips on the PAC/RT and
walks back to have a chat with the motorist.
His mobile radio hears a signal and that audio is transmitted by
the
1/4 watt transmitter in the PAC-RT to the officer. He answers
by
pressing the PTT button on the handheld, and the PAC-RT
receives
the signal and keys the mobile TX.
If a second patrol car arrives on the scene and enables his
PAC-RT
the first one is shut off.
All of this is done on a simplex channel.
A similar product can be found at
Read that web page for the theory of how it works.
I've had a high band PAC-RT on the shelf for 10 years. I
haven't
found a use for it yet.
It's based on a low-end walkie talkie, with the transmitter
castrated
back to one-quarter of a watt, with a very poor front end, and to
change
the frequency you need to order a new crystal and install it into
a
channel element.
High band PAC-RTs were used on low band and UHF mobiles. UHF
ones were used on high band and low band mobiles.
A few ham radio operators here in the Los Angeles area played
with
them over a dozen years ago and while they did work, they were
not
practical in an area with a lot of repeaters... you might as well
have the
handheld talk to the repeater rather then talk to your car which
talks
to the repeater.
Mike WA6ILQ
motorola originally called the pac/rt a mobile repeater in actuallity its
really a portable extender [ ie.> if your down in a gully with a
portable checking out a car crash -your car is way above you on the
highway ...instead of running up the embankment to talk to your base
..you call on your portable which forces the mobile in the car to
transmit with its full { lets say 100 watt mitrek} the base hears your
message and responds ..your mobile in turn causes your pac/rt to transmit
back to your portable } biggest draw back was its only 1/4 watt output on
the portable channel...its amazing what motorola did with all those
handie-com portables left over before they made the ht90/440 series
radio's huh ?
And it wasn't that hard to bump the handi-coms to amateur channels -
2m or
440 - or to put the missing final transistor back in. And I saw
more than one
that had a different radio patched in place of the handi-com - even a
Midland
13-509 220mhz mobile (modified for solid-state-switching).
Mike WA6ILQ
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek repeater builders group starting on groups.msn.com
Personally I don't understand why anyone would shoot someone down for trying to support a hobby that needs all the support it can get! this is how Ham Radio loses the drive of its' supporters. There are more positive ways to direct someones efforts than the Sarcastic comments I have seen here. Instead of dropping the subject or getting more critical, maybe we should back up and applaud the efforts of a fellow HAM! Roger W4RFJ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:05 PM 2/8/04 +, tennesseestargazer wrote: > > >http://groups.msn.com/MitrekRepeaterBuilders is the link to this new > >group. The group has just started, so there are no postings yet. > >Please visit and start posting. > > > >Thanks > > > >Joe > >KG4UJC > > Why bother? Is there too much traffic on the > existing groups? > > The more groups that are out there the fewer > knowledgeable folk that will be on each group. > > There are three major repeater groups now, > will starting another have a positive effect? > > By the way, there is already a Mitrek group on > Yahoo which has over 220 members, has been > around since August of 2001, and has less than > maybe 30 messages a month. > > And 90% of the repeater problems are not radio-specific. > They are intermod, antenna problems, controller > problems, or duplexer problems, and why limit yourself to answers > only from those that are subscribed to your mitrek-specific group? > You'd be much better served by joining one of the existing groups - if > you post anbout a problem with your system you just might get > an answer from someone that has a GE M2 system. > > I suggest that you check out these: > > Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or is it that you have a problem with the politics of an existing group > and just want to run your own group, complete with all the headaches > involved? > > Mike Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pac/Rt
Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 02:51 PM 2/8/04 +, you wrote:>hi>I dont know if some one can tell me how i setup Motorola Pac/Rt>mobile repeater, VHF, Model H13TTY3110ASP29 to stand alone repeaterThe short answer is you can't.It's a unit deigned to connect to the audio lines and PTT of an existingmobile radio and allow use of that radio via a hand-held radio.Picture a state police officer making a traffic stop on a highway.Before he gets out of his patrol car he flips on the PAC/RT andwalks back to have a chat with the motorist.His mobile radio hears a signal and that audio is transmitted by the1/4 watt transmitter in the PAC-RT to the officer. He answers bypressing the PTT button on the handheld, and the PAC-RT receivesthe signal and keys the mobile TX.If a second patrol car arrives on the scene and enables his PAC-RTthe first one is shut off.All of this is done on a simplex channel.A similar
product can be found atRead that web page for the theory of how it works.I've had a high band PAC-RT on the shelf for 10 years. I haven'tfound a use for it yet.It's based on a low-end walkie talkie, with the transmitter castratedback to one-quarter of a watt, with a very poor front end, and to changethe frequency you need to order a new crystal and install it into achannel element.High band PAC-RTs were used on low band and UHF mobiles. UHFones were used on high band and low band mobiles.A few ham radio operators here in the Los Angeles area played withthem over a dozen years ago and while they did work, they were notpractical in an area with a lot of repeaters... you might as well have thehandheld talk to the repeater rather then talk to your car which talksto the repeater.Mike WA6ILQ
motorola originally called the pac/rt a mobile repeater in actuallity its really a portable extender [ ie.> if your down in a gully with a portable checking out a car crash -your car is way above you on the highway ...instead of running up the embankment to talk to your base ..you call on your portable which forces the mobile in the car to transmit with its full { lets say 100 watt mitrek} the base hears your message and responds ..your mobile in turn causes your pac/rt to transmit back to your portable } biggest draw back was its only 1/4 watt output on the portable channel...its amazing what motorola did with all those handie-com portables left over before they made the ht90/440 series radio's huh ?Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
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[Repeater-Builder] The reason I started the Mitrek group on MSN
The reason I started the group on MSN is for the need for information on converting a mitrek and building a repeater. The mitrek group here is very slow on posting new messages. Some I submitted 4 days ago have yet to be posted. While some groups may have a need to moderate the messages, I don't see a need for it here. If my group does not make it, so be it. All I'm trying to do is to get information and make it available in a timely manor to others. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek repeater builders group starting on groups.msn.com
Personally, I don't understand why you would shoot someone down for making an effort to support a Hobby that needs all the support it can get!! I applaud his efforts!! Best '73 Roger W4RFJ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It starts to get a bit old. And, yes, I suppose my comments are slightly > "out of line" here. > > Does someone have the right to start a new list even though there are > several existing ones that will easily serve the purpose? Certainly. > > Can someone put up another repeater when there are already 10 existing ones > that serve the same geographic area? Sure. > > Do either serve any useful purpose? Not in my book. I think is does just the > reverse -- it diminishes the usefulness of the existing resources and > fractures an already small base of users. > > I've already said too much. I apologize to anyone offended by my off-topic > post. And to those whom agree, just sit back and grin. > > I will shut up and suggest that we drop the subject. > > 73, > Chuck > WB2EDV > > > - Original Message - > From: "Al Allum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek repeater builders group starting on > groups.msn.com > > > > Boy Chuck, you're sarcastic! Unfortunately, you said what I was thinking. > > > > Al, N8ARO > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pac/Rt
The dual RX versions you mention were not as special as someone might think. The PAC-RT was designed from the beginning to have two radios in it - the manual I have shows standard part numbers for the dual radio models. Picture a highband PAC on a lowband mobile, but on a half-duplex dispatch system (i.e. the mobiles talk back on a frequency different from the dispatcher talking out). The mobile is repeating the dispatch frequency to the handheld. Adding the second RX allows the handheld to be used to monitor the mobile TX frequency. Anther use would be used to monitor the car-to-car simplex frequency. The CHP (and I'm sure many other agencies) have a car-to-car tactical channel that is separate from the dispatch channel. Here in CA every patrol car has it's local channel plus the "blue" channel (they were named from the color dots that were placed on the frequency switch positions back when they got their first multichannel mobiles back in the late 1950s). A PAC-RT could have it's second RX on "blue" allowing the officer to monitor dispatch and "blue" from his handheld. And I saw one PAC-RT at a surplus sale that had a 2-channel second RX. Mike At 11:43 AM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote: >s_alajeel wrote: > > hi > > I dont know if some one can tell me how i setup Motorola Pac/Rt > > mobile repeater, VHF, Model H13TTY3110ASP29 to stand alone repeater > > > >As others have said, generally speaking a PAC-RT is not duplexable, >since it's just a handie-com MH-10 or MH-70 in a box. >Now, there are some variations. I have heard of SP's (and the number you >gave has an SP in it) that had 2 radios, not just one. The ones I have >are UHF, with a VHF rx only monitor in it, and I can see making a >portable input for out 2M repeater out it some day. I have also heard of >the same thing with 2 UHF radios, again one as a monitor rx. That could >probably be made into a UHF repeater for portable, low-profile use. It >would not be aany good in any kind of high-RF environment because the rx >has almost no front-end, and the tx has very little filtering. >-- >Jim Barbour >WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pac/Rt
s_alajeel wrote: > hi > I dont know if some one can tell me how i setup Motorola Pac/Rt > mobile repeater, VHF, Model H13TTY3110ASP29 to stand alone repeater > As others have said, generally speaking a PAC-RT is not duplexable, since it's just a handie-com MH-10 or MH-70 in a box. Now, there are some variations. I have heard of SP's (and the number you gave has an SP in it) that had 2 radios, not just one. The ones I have are UHF, with a VHF rx only monitor in it, and I can see making a portable input for out 2M repeater out it some day. I have also heard of the same thing with 2 UHF radios, again one as a monitor rx. That could probably be made into a UHF repeater for portable, low-profile use. It would not be aany good in any kind of high-RF environment because the rx has almost no front-end, and the tx has very little filtering. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: UHF Repeater
Tim wrote: > Hello All, > > I've been tasked with finding a high power UHF repeater to purchase. > We're looking for programmable unit capable of operating in the GMRS range > when necessary for special programs. > Otherwise, we'll be operating on an assigned UHF business freq. > Would like to have a complete set up with duplexer but will consider all. > Please send a description of what you have along with photos (preferred) and > asking price to me directly at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Regards, > Tim > As others have said, GMRS is limited to 50W for large bases/repeaters, also 35W for mobiles, and 5 or 6(?) for portables. Another limit is unless you have one of the old grandfathered business licenses from back in the 80's or before, business use of GMRS is ILLEGAL! And a business CANNOT now get a GMRS license. GMRS is for individuals for the purpose of conducting FAMILY business, ie, picking up kids, going to the store (using specific item names or specific store names, or how much you paid), ordering a pizza (phone patch is illegal!), what bills you got in the mail, and other similar things that would be illegal on amateur bands. Ham and GMRS should complement each other, as most things that are illegal on GMRS are legal on ham, like phone patch, and casual conversations. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL KAE9169 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
