Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a couple of dB loss you say?

2004-07-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
So, when you're down 20 dB it's time to refill the coffee cup?

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a couple of dB loss you say?


 
The following is from a coffee cup I
   got several years ago from
   Allis - Northwest ...
 a manufacturers representative
  
Just a couple of dB loss?
 
 
  
  The effect of insertion loss on
  transmitted power (dB to % loss)
  
   Loss  %Loss  %   Loss   %
dB  Loss   dB  Loss  dB   Loss
 
   0.1  2.28  1.7  32.4  3.3  53.2
   0.2  4.50  1.8  33.9  3.4  54.3
   0.3  6.67  1.9  35.4  3.5  55.3
   0.4  8.80  2.0  36.9  4.0  60.2
   0.5  10.9  2.1  38.3  5.0  68.4
   0.6  12.9  2.2  39.7  6.0  74.9
   0.7  14.9  2.3  41.1  7.0  80.0
   0.8  16.8  2.4  42.5  8.0  84.2
   0.9  18.7  2.5  43.8  9.0  87.4
   1.0  20.6  2.6  45.0 1090.0
   1.1  22.4  2.7  46.3 1192.1
   1.2  24.1  2.8  47.5 1293.7
   1.3  25.9  2.9  48.7 1395.0
   1.4  27.6  3.0  49.9 1496.0
   1.5  29.2  3.1  51.0 1596.8
   1.6  30.8  3.2  52.1 2099.0
 
 
 





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a couple of dB loss you say?

2004-07-17 Thread Neil McKie

  That's a good start ... 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


Chuck Kelsey wrote:
 
 So, when you're down 20 dB it's time to refill the coffee cup?
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:16 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Just a couple of dB loss you say?
 
 
 The following is from a coffee cup I
got several years ago from
Allis - Northwest ...
  a manufacturers representative
 
 Just a couple of dB loss?
 
 
 
   The effect of insertion loss on
   transmitted power (dB to % loss)
 
Loss  %Loss  %   Loss   %
 dB  Loss   dB  Loss  dB   Loss
 
0.1  2.28  1.7  32.4  3.3  53.2
0.2  4.50  1.8  33.9  3.4  54.3
0.3  6.67  1.9  35.4  3.5  55.3
0.4  8.80  2.0  36.9  4.0  60.2
0.5  10.9  2.1  38.3  5.0  68.4
0.6  12.9  2.2  39.7  6.0  74.9
0.7  14.9  2.3  41.1  7.0  80.0
0.8  16.8  2.4  42.5  8.0  84.2
0.9  18.7  2.5  43.8  9.0  87.4
1.0  20.6  2.6  45.0 1090.0
1.1  22.4  2.7  46.3 1192.1
1.2  24.1  2.8  47.5 1293.7
1.3  25.9  2.9  48.7 1395.0
1.4  27.6  3.0  49.9 1496.0
1.5  29.2  3.1  51.0 1596.8
1.6  30.8  3.2  52.1 2099.0
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a couple of dB loss you say?

2004-07-17 Thread Neil McKie

  If the dual tones went away. how do you remotely control your 
 system via radio? 

  Neil 

Ken Arck wrote:
 
 At 10:48 AM 7/16/2004 -0700, you wrote:
 
   I know, now you want my study of the tone frequency comparisons
  of the Bell System Touch-Tone plan?
 
 ---Naaah. Dual tones went out with 62 Nash Ramblers :-)
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Need tuning instructions for Celwave preselector

2004-07-17 Thread Adam T. Cately
   Looking for tuning instructions and/or information on a Celwave
model HFD8461A preselector-thingy-do-bob - any help would be appreciated.
Direct replies are encouraged.  Thanks.

   - Adam - 

   

  





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Local audio

2004-07-17 Thread Jimmy Floyd
I have a UHF Mitrek 30 watt radio that was removed from a consolette and has
been converted for repeater use. All is working FB except for local Rx.
audio  only hear weak pop in speaker when keyed.
I am using the same setup with another radio and all works OK.
Even the squelch control works correctly.
Could a jumper be on the board somewhere that I have not found that will
mute local audio?

Speaker is connected to pins 3 and 5
Volume wiper to pin 15



Jimmy Floyd
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just a couple of dB loss you say?

2004-07-17 Thread Ken Arck
At 05:07 AM 7/17/2004 -0700, you wrote:

  If the dual tones went away. how do you remotely control your 
 system via radio? 

---I didn't say they weren't useful (or still used). I just said they were
outdated

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need tuning instructions for Celwave preselector

2004-07-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
Adam,

Although the preselector is manufactured by RFS/Celwave, HFD8461A is a
Motorola part number.  This preselector is intended to be used in the
GR1225 and similar repeaters in the 144-160 MHz band.  It appears to be
similar to a Celwave 911-PB4-1-2 unit, except that it has N connectors. 
It may be a unique design for Motorola, and not available as a Celwave
product line item.

I looked in my GR1225 and RKR1225 manuals for additional information,
but found none.  Most such preselectors are bandpass versions of mobile
notch duplexers, with all resonators in series.  You should be able to
simply rough-tune the preselector on a spectrum analyzer for a peak
response at the receive frequency.  Then, install it in your receiver
feedline and fine-tune it with a service monitor for best sensitivity at
12dB SINAD.  Be aware that helical resonator preselectors are rather
lossy, with insertion losses between 2 and 4 dB.

Try calling Motorola Parts ID at 800-422-4210, and ask for the
publication number that covers HFD8461A.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Adam T. Cately wrote:
 
Looking for tuning instructions and/or information on a Celwave
 model HFD8461A preselector-thingy-do-bob - any help would be appreciated.
 Direct replies are encouraged.  Thanks.
 
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[Repeater-Builder] List operation

2004-07-17 Thread Roger Grady
I have a few questions about the mechanics of operating a list such as 
this. Could one of the moderators email me direct if you're willing to 
answer some?

Thanks a bunch.

73,
Roger Grady  K9OPO




 
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