RE: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming

2004-09-21 Thread Tim S.

Mike,

I used to get mine done here:

Silverado Avionics
(707) 255-5588
2500 Airport Rd
Napa, CA 94558 


-Tim
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Perryman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming


Does anyone know where I can get a Midland 70-342b programmed?  I need to
locate a 70-1000 or 70-1000c programmer.  Not having much luck with
"google-fishing"..

Thanks,
 73's
Mike Perryman
www.qsl.net/k5jmp






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

2004-09-21 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 04:49 AM 9/21/04, you wrote:

>At a recent meeting buying or building a new control radio was
>discussed. I remember reading years ago when the repeater was put on
>the air for the first time that a control link must be 223 Mhz or
>above to be a qualified control link. After searching part 97, I
>cannot find the frequency for a link listed.
>Has this requirement been lifed or can someone point me to the rule?
>Bill WA9BA

There's one section that says how stations can be remotely
controlled, and says that it has to be an aux station that does
it.  There is another that says that aux stations are on 222
or above.

Locally most are on 420-430mhz or on 900mhz.

Mike WA6ILQ


Mike WA6ILQ  





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] transistor cross-reference site ??

2004-09-21 Thread Joe Ciarcia
If you have the generic part number (ie 2n) try www.nteinc.com.
If you have a Motorola or GE number try www.rfparts.com for a cross
or  www.mdmradio.com has some original devices.

Joe



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>hi
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>anyone have an idea where i should look?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] transistor cross-reference site ??

2004-09-21 Thread John J. Riddell

http://nte01.nteinc.com/nte/NTExRefSemiProd.nsf/$$Search?OpenForm

Try this  Gervais

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming

2004-09-21 Thread Com/Rad Inc.
Mike

Call me at 800.298.2850 and we can discuss this

We can do the pgmmg

Ed Folta
Com/Rad Inc
Des Plaines, IL 


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Perryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming


> Does anyone know where I can get a Midland 70-342b programmed?  I need to
> locate a 70-1000 or 70-1000c programmer.  Not having much luck with
> "google-fishing"..
> 
> Thanks,
>  73's
> Mike Perryman
> www.qsl.net/k5jmp
> 
> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming

2004-09-21 Thread Mike Perryman
Does anyone know where I can get a Midland 70-342b programmed?  I need to
locate a 70-1000 or 70-1000c programmer.  Not having much luck with
"google-fishing"..

Thanks,
 73's
Mike Perryman
www.qsl.net/k5jmp





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

2004-09-21 Thread Joe Montierth
97.213 and 97.201

213 tells how stations can be remotely controlled
(telcommand), and that if done by radio, you must use
an auxilliary station. 201 tells what an aux station
is, and the freqs that they can use.

Joe

--- wa9ba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At a recent meeting buying or building a new control
> radio was 
> discussed. I remember reading years ago when the
> repeater was put on 
> the air for the first time that a control link must
> be 223 Mhz or 
> above to be a qualified control link. After
> searching part 97, I 
> cannot find the frequency for a link listed. 
> Has this requirement been lifed or can someone point
> me to the rule?
> Bill WA9BA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola GM300

2004-09-21 Thread wn1b8

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The GM300 is a repackaged and updated Maxtrac, and a GR-series
> is two of them in a repeater housing.   The Maxtrac / GM-series is
> designed as a mobile radio ,and I'd take all the normal precautions
> when running  a mobile in high-duty-cycle usage.  I believe that
> there is a large heatsink that is available as a replacement 
part
> 
> They also made some 2w Maxtracs that will do continuous duty,
> and in link service with a beam antenna that may be enough (or
> tack on an external amplifier) - look for a D04MJA on eBay.
> The zero is used to mean "under 3w or RX only".
> See www.repeater-builder.com  on the Moto page under
> "Figuring out what you have"
> 
> Mike WA6ILQ
> 


Thanks Mike.  Very usefull information.

Scott, WN1B





 
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[Repeater-Builder] transistor cross-reference site ??

2004-09-21 Thread gervais fillion
hi
i am looking for a cross-reference site of transistors?
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] New Sinclair 2M Antenna Question

2004-09-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sure enough, that's what Sinclair says. The 2-Meter range Celwave PD-220-2
collinear antenna that it replaced didn't have any extra stubs or cables,
and all of the other "Stationmaster" type antennas I've ever seen over the
last 35 years never had anything like this. So we just folded this "stub" 
over and tucked it inside the mounting tube and put it up. We haven't had a
chance to see how it performs yet, but if it works as well as the Celwave,
it will be a great antenna. 

The previous Celwave antenna still looks almost brand new after nearly 14
years up in the air in the NW weather. We figured it would be time to
replace it, so now we have a spare which we'll use to replace a 14 year old
Scala OG-4 at another 2-Meter Repeater site, which definitely needs
replacing.

Thanks to all on the list who replied.

Larry K7LJ



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From: Mr John Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:33:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New Sinclair 2M Antenna Question


It sounds like you have a SRL229 antenna. That extra
cable in the mounting tube is part of the matching
network. Just push it back up inside the mounting
tube. Only the VHF model uses this RG142 matching
cable. I have used these antennas for over 20 years
now and have had excellent results. You can see some
pictures of them on our web page.

John Lloyd, K7JL

http://www.ussc.com/~uvhfs/snowlink.html


 
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:27:13 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Sinclair 2M Antenna Question

We just purchased a new Sinclair 2-Meter Collinear
antenna for our 2-Meter Repeater to replace a similar
Celwave "Stationmaster" antenna that was about 14
years old (turns out we probably really didn't need
to, it still looks almost brand new). 

The new Sinclair 2-Meter antenna arrived (ordered for
our 2-Meter channel) and we found a second cable going
into the base of the antenna. There's the main antenna
connector, and there's also a short length of what
appears to be RG-142 cable, hanging out and going
nowhere. We've worked with many of these
"Stationmaster" type collinear antennas for many
years, but have never seen anything like this. The
instruction sheet and frequency sweep don't mention
anything about this loose cable going into the
antenna. 

Has anyone else seen this and know what it's for? Our
dealer that we ordered it through hasn't seen anything
like this, either, and was at a loss to explain what
it might be. 

We also ordered a brand new 10dB Sinclair collinear
for 440 MHz, and it doesn't have this "extra" cable.

LJ




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

2004-09-21 Thread Steve Rodgers

The control receiver frequency can be  inside any amateur band above 222.15 
MHz, and is kept secret for obvious reasons. In other words, pick a channel
which you think has very little activity on it and/or isn't going to be 
monitored much.

Steve
WA6ZFT



On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:49, wa9ba wrote:
> At a recent meeting buying or building a new control radio was
> discussed. I remember reading years ago when the repeater was put on
> the air for the first time that a control link must be 223 Mhz or
> above to be a qualified control link. After searching part 97, I
> cannot find the frequency for a link listed.
> Has this requirement been lifed or can someone point me to the rule?
> Bill WA9BA
>
>
>
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>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

2004-09-21 Thread wa9ba
At a recent meeting buying or building a new control radio was 
discussed. I remember reading years ago when the repeater was put on 
the air for the first time that a control link must be 223 Mhz or 
above to be a qualified control link. After searching part 97, I 
cannot find the frequency for a link listed. 
Has this requirement been lifed or can someone point me to the rule?
Bill WA9BA





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] detuned duplexer cause intermod?

2004-09-21 Thread Tim S.
Thanks for the information Eric.

Really clears things up well.

-Tim
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-Original Message-
From: Eric Lemmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] detuned duplexer cause intermod?

Tim,

You are to be commended for thinking about possible interference to
others;  I wish all repeater owners were so conscientious!

Even if the duplexer was perfectly tuned on a network analyzer, the PA
may become unstable when the power is lowered below a certain point. 
This instability usually causes spurious emissions which definitely WILL
cause interference to other stations.  This is not the same as intermod.

 





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola GM300 Link

2004-09-21 Thread motarolla_doctor
Mike,ilq, has given some ideas, but you can look here for more on the 
radios and the Link Module.

   www.webimaging.com/echocomm/

Click on Mods, and look for the article on the heatsink upgrade.
Click on Products, then Link Module for the "little box" that makes 
the GM's work. These are used in Commercial and Public Safety/Fire 
systems.





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kinda of a strange question

2004-09-21 Thread motarolla_doctor
"wb6ymh" wrote:

> I also remember your retired CHP criuzer with what was it 8 antennas 
> and a trunk full of 80 and 140Ds?  plus a rumored Master pro on the 
> very bottom layer for "security".  Ah the feeling of power when you 
> munched down on .94 and heard the 140D's dynamotor wind up!

Funny you should mention that, I remember Neil's car and some of the 
radios too!!!  

Will






 
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[Repeater-Builder] New Sinclair 2M Antenna Question

2004-09-21 Thread Mr John Lloyd
It sounds like you have a SRL229 antenna. That extra
cable in the mounting tube is part of the matching
network. Just push it back up inside the mounting
tube. Only the VHF model uses this RG142 matching
cable. I have used these antennas for over 20 years
now and have had excellent results. You can see some
pictures of them on our web page.

John Lloyd, K7JL

http://www.ussc.com/~uvhfs/snowlink.html


 
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:27:13 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Sinclair 2M Antenna Question

We just purchased a new Sinclair 2-Meter Collinear
antenna for our 2-Meter Repeater to replace a similar
Celwave "Stationmaster" antenna that was about 14
years old (turns out we probably really didn't need
to, it still looks almost brand new). 

The new Sinclair 2-Meter antenna arrived (ordered for
our 2-Meter channel) and we found a second cable going
into the base of the antenna. There's the main antenna
connector, and there's also a short length of what
appears to be RG-142 cable, hanging out and going
nowhere. We've worked with many of these
"Stationmaster" type collinear antennas for many
years, but have never seen anything like this. The
instruction sheet and frequency sweep don't mention
anything about this loose cable going into the
antenna. 

Has anyone else seen this and know what it's for? Our
dealer that we ordered it through hasn't seen anything
like this, either, and was at a loss to explain what
it might be. 

We also ordered a brand new 10dB Sinclair collinear
for 440 MHz, and it doesn't have this "extra" cable.

LJ




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Sinclair 2M Antenna Question

2004-09-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
Larry,

I have installed a number of Sinclair VHF antennas, but have not seen
this "pigtail" on any of them.  What is the model number of the
antenna?  I suggest you contact the factory for an explanation.

Contact Sinclair tech support at:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> 
We just purchased a new Sinclair 2-Meter Collinear antenna for our
2-Meter Repeater to replace a similar Celwave "Stationmaster" antenna
that was about 14 years old (turns out we probably really didn't need
to, it still looks almost brand new).
> 
The new Sinclair 2-Meter antenna arrived (ordered for our 2-Meter
channel) and we found a second cable going into the base of the antenna.
There's the main antenna connector, and there's also a short length of
what appears to be RG-142 cable, hanging out and going nowhere. We've
worked with many of these "Stationmaster" type collinear antennas for
many years, but have never seen anything like this. The instruction
sheet and frequency sweep don't mention anything about this loose cable
going into the antenna. Has anyone else seen this and know what it's
for?...




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kinda of a strange question

2004-09-21 Thread scomind




WB6YMH wrote:
 
Since we into nostalga what's the earliest date of a microprocessor based repeater or remote base controller?  I built a Z80 based controller during 79 and 80 that ended up with 6 K of assembly language and 4 radio ports.
 
 
I built the 147.300 WR9AIN repeater in New Holstein, WI in 1976 with a 45W Quintron TX and an Aerotron RX.
 
The repeater was in my shack because the controller was a Southwest Technical Products Corp. 6800-based computer (kit), and I had to reload the program via a 33ASR Teletype tape reader after power interruptions.
 
The SWTPC operated a Heathkit HD-15 for autopatching. DTMF decoding was via a Teltone DTMF receiver board.
 
I later wirewrapped a 6802-based controller, and I believe it was the first controller to have macros.
 
73,
Bob
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] detuned duplexer cause intermod?

2004-09-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tim,

You are to be commended for thinking about possible interference to
others;  I wish all repeater owners were so conscientious!

Even if the duplexer was perfectly tuned on a network analyzer, the PA
may become unstable when the power is lowered below a certain point. 
This instability usually causes spurious emissions which definitely WILL
cause interference to other stations.  This is not the same as intermod.

Now, when you add a detuned (or incorrectly tuned) duplexer to this
scenario, it can make the PA even more unstable.  The source impedance
of a solid-state PA varies a lot as the drive level is changed, and the
load impedance of a duplexer varies with frequency and tuning.  With two
instabilities operating together, it's a wonder that we can achieve a
stable system.

The fact that you had a desense problem suggests that your duplexer is
improperly tuned, or it may simply be inadequate for your transmitter
power and receive sensitivity.  Desense is frequently caused by leaky
jumpers between the repeater and the duplexer; these should always be
fabricated from double-shielded cable and high-quality connectors
without adapters.  Lowering the transmitter power to cure desense
doesn't always work, and sometimes the increased spurs make desense
worse as power drops.

You can stabilize the load impedance on the PA by adding a ferrite
isolator between the PA and the duplexer input.  This will greatly
reduce the possibility of intermod interference to other stations. 
However, I don't view your detuned duplexer as "causing" intermod.  It
may certainly make your station more susceptible to intermod, but a
ferrite isolator is the important preventive device.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

"Tim S." wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure I know the answer to this.
> 
> But can a transmitter keying into a duplexer that's detuned cause intermod
> interference?
> 
> I have a transmitter that I turned down the power because it had desense on
> it.  Turning the power down fixed the desense but now I am wondering since
> its still transmitting into a poor load, can't that cause some intermod
> interference to other repeaters?...




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GM300

2004-09-21 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
The GM300 is a repackaged and updated Maxtrac, and a GR-series
is two of them in a repeater housing.   The Maxtrac / GM-series is
designed as a mobile radio ,and I'd take all the normal precautions
when running  a mobile in high-duty-cycle usage.  I believe that
there is a large heatsink that is available as a replacement part

They also made some 2w Maxtracs that will do continuous duty,
and in link service with a beam antenna that may be enough (or
tack on an external amplifier) - look for a D04MJA on eBay.
The zero is used to mean "under 3w or RX only".
See www.repeater-builder.com  on the Moto page under
"Figuring out what you have"

Mike WA6ILQ

At 07:02 AM 9/20/04, you wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>Does anyone have any experience using the Motorola GM300 radios as
>crossband link transceivers?  I have successfully reprogrammed the
>UHF transceiver for 434 MHz. use.  All appears to work well.  I
>understand that I can mate this to a VHF version (reprogrammed for
>our 2 meter input frequency) and the two will successfully
>crossband.  I realize I have to make up the cable to connect them.
>I'm looking for feedback from someone who has done this.  Pros?
>Cons?  Suggestions?  I see there is a squelch modification that is
>recommended which I will do.  Anyone have a scanned service manual?
>I have the schematic but would like a board shot so I can identify
>specific parts from the schematic.
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>Any recomendations will be welcome.
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>73,
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>Scott Madison, WN1B
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