RE: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks
Hi Mike, The main objection would be the user equipment. Controllers go for around $600 new, to $200 on the surplus market. There are some $1200 Zetrons, but there are also many less expensive ones. Combining 2 M or even 440 is a case by case issue depending on the number of channels, spacing, etc, and can range from interleaving 2 bpbr duplexers, for next to nothing in cost, to hybrids, isolators, and big expensive cavities costing many thousands of dollars, but where the rubber meets the road is for the users to buy an LTR radio. Best regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Mike Mullarkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 6:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks Yea I can really see hams spend as much or close as much for a LTR radio tom have there private talk group. Come on guys lets get real here unless there [Steve Bosshard (NU5D)] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Karaoke Repeater System
News from the home front... It's not bad enough we have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Military eplrs system hosing up the 445-450 Mhz repeater inputs here in California... How about a Karaoke Repeater System... API makes a wireless mic, which is on 222.600 Mhz. Well... guess who is lucky enough to have a repeater input on the mentioned frequency? For the last few months, we've been hearing wideband Karaoke Music through the repeater at least 4 nights a week. Had a nice Parade described to us last summer Evenings found the normally carrier squelch repeater placed in sub tone (ctcss/pl) access. We tried to track it down a few times, it twice going away when we were less than a block from the source. Last Friday night someone's bad rendition of Willie's you were always on my mind... was enough to make a few of us near postal. Out came the df equipment. One surprise occured when the more local mic captured a 2 watt distant handheld. (Old dogs sometimes get a bone...) We were lucky enough to find the bar/equipment and person running the mic. After a bit of fun, he shut the mic down (he had 4 others on different frequencies) and we've been music free ever since. I'll be in contact with the mfgr soon and we hope to write up the more formal text for QST. The repeater is 7 miles line of sight from the bar. Sometimes a really hot Phempt rx preamp can give you more than the expected results. cheers skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-850 madness
Yeah,we replaced it with a TCX-150G! and never looked back! LOL,73,Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any experience in dealing with the RFI generated in a ACC RC-850? If so how did you eliminate it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] te systems
Jed Barton wrote: anyone have the sight for TE systems? Thanks, Jed No, I can't see them from here... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MICOR LOW AUDIO
At 01:55 PM 12/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: okay the audio id from the controller sounds great through the output of my repeater however the audio from the receiver is to low to be heard with out turning the audio on the listening radio up full blast and being in a quiet room my repeater is a micor compu station I have used the following site to make the connections between the repeater and the controller http://www.ccdx.org/zedyx/mods/micorbas.htm so audio coming from the micor is just low is there something I missed in making the micor into a repeater? something I need to do to the micor for higher audio? ---I posted a reply to your question on the RC210 list, David. But my quick synopsis is you either have a problem with the Micor or the modification isn't working as intended. I also have a Micor CompaStation and there is tons of audio from the backplane. Certainly more than enough to drive the RC210 Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?
Matt wrote: Has anyone any experience of encoding a CTCSS tone of, say 77Hz, and a DCS code at the same time? Yes Is the digital code going to mix with the CTCSS tone and produce a bunch of harmonics that make the repeater sound horrible? No, if set up properly. Different tones will react differently, but I've set up a portable that encodes both at the same time (HT90 - for access of two different repeaters) and it works fine on both. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] ACC RC 850 CONTROLLER RF EMISSIONS
Hello I think you should checkout the Yahoo groups for the ACC controllers RC 85 RC 96 and RC 850 they will have the info on your problem. My RC 85 causes a proublen on 146.760 mhz thus you can not use it arounf that frequency BUT you can change the crystal on the controller if you want to use the controller on 146.760 mhz. You did not say what frequency your repeater is on and this may be the problem. Harmonics arent they great Hope this helps and I know you will like the great info those groups have just like this great group Thanks Kevin !! RonWB5JHR Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-850 madness
I DO have an ACC ITC-32 for sale... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, Everyone around here keeps saying I should do that too. Seriously. I can unsquelch the MASTR-IIs local speaker and I don't have desense until I turn on the controller. And It gets really bad when it is geneating morse code, you can decode the CW as the noise gets quieter during a tone. Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah,we replaced it with a TCX-150G! and never looked back! LOL,73,Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any experience in dealing with the RFI generated in a ACC RC-850? If so how did you eliminate it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?
Hello John ... and Mike ... The Motorola Mocom-10 Manual, part number 68P81010E40, dated 7/17/70, covered the following model numbers: Dash-mount mobile radio Models ... 12 VDC, Negative ground D21AAN-1100B Carrier Squelch D21AAN-3100B Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch D21AAN-5100B Automute Tone-Coded Squelch D31AAN-1100B Carrier Squelch D31AAN-3100B Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch D31AAN-5100B Automute Tone-Coded Squelch D31AAN-1130B Two-Frequency Carrier Squelch D31AAN-3130B Two-Frequency Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch D41AAN-1100B Carrier Squelch D41AAN-3100B Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch D41AAN-5100B Automute Tone-Coded Squelch D41AAN-1130B Two-Frequency Carrier Squelch D41AAN-3130B Two-Frequency Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch Desk Top Base Station Models ... 117 VAC L21AAB-1100B Carrier Squelch L21AAB-3100B Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch L21AAB-5100B Automute Tone-Coded Squelch L31AAB-1100B Carrier Squelch L31AAB-3100B Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch L31AAB-5100B Automute Tone-Coded Squelch L31AAB-1130B Two-Frequency Carrier Squelch L31AAB-3130B Two-Frequency Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch L41AAB-1100A Carrier Squelch L41AAB-3100A Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch L41AAB-5100A Automute Tone-Coded Squelch L41AAB-1130A Two-Frequency Carrier Squelch L41AAB-3130A Two-Frequency Private Line Tone-Coded Squelch D/L21 Series Radio sets are 1.5 watts out D/L31 Series Radio sets are 5 watts out D/L41 Series Radio sets are 25 watts out The Automute Tone-Coded Squelch is very similar to the Single-Tone coded squelch systems of the late fifties / early sixties. The normally used Automute Tone frequencies are listed as follows: Automute Frequency Code (CPS) 01 625 02 735 03 825 04 900 05 980 061070 071170 081280 091400 101520 111650 121800 131950 142100 152250 162400 172610 182840 The receiver is muted to all incoming messages except those with the correct Automute tone code. When the correct tone code is received, the receiver is unmuted, a brief tone is heard, and the amber signal light turns on. The receiver remains unmuted for the duration of the transmission and the signal light remains on until the microphone is lifted from the hang-up box. When the operator lifts the microphone from the hang-up box, the tone squelch circuit is automatically disabled so that the channel may be monitored before transmitting. When the transmit button on the microphone is pressed, the radio transmits a short audible tone which is simultaneously reproduced by the speaker. After the tone ceases, the operator speakes into the microphone. On succeeding transmissions the tone is not transmitted unless the microphone is returned to the hang-up box which resets the tone sending circuit. (Thank you Motorola for the description.) CHP (CHiP) = California Highway Patrol Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA JOHN MACKEY wrote: I forget now, exactly WHAT was the Automute in the Mocom-10? While finding a motrac or motran mobile with the tone burst isn't to rare to find, expecially if you can latch into a bunch of retired CHiP gear. But finding tone burst DECODE is tough. About 15 years ago I put up a 6 meter repeater in Oregon. Due to the commonality amateurs having CHiP Motrans (that have tone burst built into the control head), I put a 1800 Hz tone burst decoder in parallel with the 100 Hz PL decoder for my repeater input. That way a user could access the repeater with either an 1800 Hz tone burst at the beginning of every transmission OR a 100 Hz PL tone. CHiP = California Highway Police -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 09:58:24 PM CST From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP The AutoMute system was usually installed on the Mocom-10 radios. Motorola also had tone burst on the tubed equipment as well as the Motrac Line as an option. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: te systems
TE has a mixed bag opinion or love-hate reputation among the VHF/UHF SSB/DX crowd here in NorCal. . They/he makes great stuff, but when it has a problem, look out. They have ads in some of the Amateur Mags, but no web site I've ever seen. He will send you a catalog if you ask by phone. The yellow catalog sheets are pretty good for what they are. Ham radio is not his bread and butter, more the commercial side so he has limited time to deal with Amateurs. His limited time can be an issue if you're having a problem. Every TE amp I have is first rate construction and operation. I like them, I buy them when and where possible, but I have one or two friends who have had problems with their really large 350 watt amps. Getting them back from service /repair required threats of driving down to SoCal after weeks of unanswered phone calls. I've never had one of the 15 plus TE amps I own fail. They really do honk out a nice signal and they are well designed. There never seems to be a free lunch... cheers, skipp www.radiowrench.com/sonic mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't appear they have one. I got turned off on them when a new amp almost burned down a communications building. Call them at (310)478-0591 and ask if they have a web site. Joe M. Jim B. wrote: Jed Barton wrote: anyone have the sight for TE systems? Thanks, Jed No, I can't see them from here... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] acc itc-32
If you don't want the national debt for the ACC itc-32, drop me an Email off the list. I'd like to buy or trade for your unit. thanks skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DO have an ACC ITC-32 for sale... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, Everyone around here keeps saying I should do that too. Seriously. I can unsquelch the MASTR-IIs local speaker and I don't have desense until I turn on the controller. And It gets really bad when it is geneating morse code, you can decode the CW as the noise gets quieter during a tone. Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah,we replaced it with a TCX-150G! and never looked back! LOL,73,Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any experience in dealing with the RFI generated in a ACC RC-850? If so how did you eliminate it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: te systems
I have been running a TE Systems paging amp on my 147.16 machine for the last 8 months and so far so good, no problems. Because of the influence of a prior employer I did add two fans right on top of the heat sink though. Bob Bell believed you could never have to many fans on a radio. He had 7 fans on an old Canadian Marconi UHF 7 watt repeater. The only thing that kept it from getting to airborne in wind gusts was the AC cord, when it got to high it would unplug itself and settle back to the ground! It was a joke around Bell Communications in Fort Worthless, Texas, guess you had to be there. ;) Paul WB5IDM -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: te systems TE has a mixed bag opinion or love-hate reputation among the VHF/UHF SSB/DX crowd here in NorCal. . They/he makes great stuff, but when it has a problem, look out. They have ads in some of the Amateur Mags, but no web site I've ever seen. He will send you a catalog if you ask by phone. The yellow catalog sheets are pretty good for what they are. Ham radio is not his bread and butter, more the commercial side so he has limited time to deal with Amateurs. His limited time can be an issue if you're having a problem. Every TE amp I have is first rate construction and operation. I like them, I buy them when and where possible, but I have one or two friends who have had problems with their really large 350 watt amps. Getting them back from service /repair required threats of driving down to SoCal after weeks of unanswered phone calls. I've never had one of the 15 plus TE amps I own fail. They really do honk out a nice signal and they are well designed. There never seems to be a free lunch... cheers, skipp www.radiowrench.com/sonic mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't appear they have one. I got turned off on them when a new amp almost burned down a communications building. Call them at (310)478-0591 and ask if they have a web site. Joe M. Jim B. wrote: Jed Barton wrote: anyone have the sight for TE systems? Thanks, Jed No, I can't see them from here... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
