Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater whit portable

[Michael Shaffer]

 I'd go with a Harris, They are already full duplex
and come with duplexers. Change the freqs hook it up
to a controller and an antenna and your on the air.
Mine(450a) is rated rated at 20 watts continous, you
could always set the power down.

Mike N8RQU



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> UHF about 1 to 4 
> watts, which portable radio may I choose, did
> someone know which model 
> have a better 
> selectivity ?,the better radio have a 70dB in
> wideband channel (25Khz)i 
> need a least 75 to 80 db in selectivity.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor VHF HI Receiver Spec?

[Maire Company]

having real good luck with the Kenwood TKR-740 and TKR-840
John


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> 
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "dallasreact112"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Hi,
> 
> I am pondering replacing a Micor (146 mhz} ham repeater with a more
> current model. As many already know the receiver in the Micor is
> excellent. Could some one dust off a Micor maintenance manual and get
> the receiver specs for me. For that matter does anyone have experience
> or know of current repeater receivers that match or exceed the Micor
> specs?" 
> 
> __
> 
> You will have a hard time beating a Micor receiver, however, I can
> tell you that the Motorola Quantar makes an outstanding ham repeater.
> Used ones are becoming affordable but give consideration to the
> maintenance.  These units are FRU based and exchange assemblies are
> expensive.
> 
> The IF and demodulation is all done in DSP in the Quantar.  The
> squelch action is even better than the Micor chip.  Interfacing is a
> snap - assuming you have the wireline board which hosts the wildcard +
> E&M I/O.
> 
> Specs: Micor / Quantar
> 
> 20 dBq: 0.5 uV / 0.35 uV
> 12 dB SINAD: 0.35 uV / 0.25 uV
> IM rejection: 80 dB / 85 dB
> Spurious & image: 100 dB / 100 dB
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor VHF HI Receiver Spec?

[nj902]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "dallasreact112"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
"Hi,
 
I am pondering replacing a Micor (146 mhz} ham repeater with a more
current model. As many already know the receiver in the Micor is
excellent. Could some one dust off a Micor maintenance manual and get
the receiver specs for me. For that matter does anyone have experience
or know of current repeater receivers that match or exceed the Micor
specs?" 

__

You will have a hard time beating a Micor receiver, however, I can
tell you that the Motorola Quantar makes an outstanding ham repeater.
 Used ones are becoming affordable but give consideration to the
maintenance.  These units are FRU based and exchange assemblies are
expensive.

The IF and demodulation is all done in DSP in the Quantar.  The
squelch action is even better than the Micor chip.  Interfacing is a
snap - assuming you have the wireline board which hosts the wildcard +
E&M I/O.

Specs: Micor / Quantar

20 dBq: 0.5 uV / 0.35 uV
12 dB SINAD: 0.35 uV / 0.25 uV
IM rejection: 80 dB / 85 dB
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[Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF HI Receiver Spec?

[dallasreact112]

Hi,

I am pondering replacing a Micor (146 mhz} ham repeater with a more
current model. As many already know the receiver in the Micor is
excellent. Could some one dust off a Micor maintenance manual and get
the receiver specs for me. For that matter does anyone have experience
or know of current repeater receivers that match or exceed the Micor
specs?

Thanks

Bernie Parker 

K5BP







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply

[Neil McKie]

  Which Micor Power Supply? 

  Neil 

John Place wrote:
> 
> Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 
> volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 
. volts to for battery backup. 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

[Neil McKie]

  Wasn't aware of that one ... we didn't see that many EF Johnson 
 radios. 

  Neil 


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> Neil McKie wrote:
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> >   Remember Pace?  Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the
> >  built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced
> >  recoverable audio at the receiver.
> >
> 
> I thought that was the EFJ UHF Challenger's. 7172, etc.
> You could also generate a dead carrier into the rx, yell into the top,
> and use it as a public address system...
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater whit portable

[Bob Dengler]

At 4/25/2005 01:56 PM, you wrote:



>Hi groups, I want to make a vehicular repeater in UHF about 1 to 4
>watts, which portable radio may I choose, did someone know which model
>have a better
>selectivity ?,the better radio have a 70dB in wideband channel (25Khz)i
>need a least 75 to 80 db in selectivity.

G.E. MVP

Look under "GE Custom MVP" at 
 for info on the radio.

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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater whit portable

[va2buz]

Hi groups, I want to make a vehicular repeater in UHF about 1 to 4 
watts, which portable radio may I choose, did someone know which model 
have a better 
selectivity ?,the better radio have a 70dB in wideband channel (25Khz)i 
need a least 75 to 80 db in selectivity.










 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer retuning

[Dave VanHorn]

At 04:15 PM 4/25/2005, James wrote:
I have the equipment, but I'm in
CT.  You are better off sending it to TX/RX if you cannot find
someone locally
Thread entanglement warning.. I'm not looking to have anything tuned, I
was offering to help tune, as I have the equipment.

James
Dave VanHorn wrote:

At 05:55 AM 4/25/2005, James wrote:
 


where are you??
   


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer retuning

[James]

I have the equipment, but I'm in CT.  You are better off sending it to
TX/RX if you cannot find someone locally.

James

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply

[Maire Company]

there is a power supply that Motorola made for the Micor  that will charge 
the battery (12V) and them run the repeater when needed.

The last I knew a new one from Motorola was about $400.  as I got one for a 
job and still in stock.  Also they may be got at a ham fest as I got a Micor 
(working) with the power supply for $600.00 at one time.

If you can't find one let me know and I will see how many I have.

John
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> Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts?
> Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 volts to for
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[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply

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Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? 
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[Repeater-Builder] Custom MVP CG encoder/decoder

[Larry Lockard]

Would anyone on the list have a copy of LBI-30370D. 
Custom MVP CG boards.
 
I need a copy of page 5 if anyone would be kind 
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I already looked at the PDF file on the 
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encode/decode board.
 
Perhaps a copy to Mike to add to the LBI list to 
make it complete would be nice also.
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-850 repeater questions---Update

[Paul Finch]

Bob,

One thing I will tell you is that while I was replacing all the PA's on my
850's I left the final transistor spring "not soldered", it did not make
rated power.  After I soldered the spring/shield or whatever it is (they
call it a spring) it went up to 40 watts so it's telling me it's actually
acting as more than just a spring.

I have to tell you, Kenwood acted very responsibly on the matter with the
speed and cost of these upgrades.  I was impressed.

Paul
WB5IDM




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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-850 repeater
questions---Update




Hi all

I sent the TKR-850 out on Wednesday, the 20th and it just arrived back
from the service center a few minutes ago...with a brand new PA board
(I opened it up to check).  Haven't checked the power out yet, but
according to their service slip, diagnosed and checked everything with
40W out.  Can't belive I got it back so soon!

I rekin I got me a new 'peter!


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

[Jim B.]

Neil McKie wrote:

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>   Remember Pace?  Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the 
>  built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced 
>  recoverable audio at the receiver. 
> 

I thought that was the EFJ UHF Challenger's. 7172, etc.
You could also generate a dead carrier into the rx, yell into the top, 
and use it as a public address system...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] dtmf, ctcss and pl decoding

[Bob Dengler]

At 4/22/2005 01:35 PM, you wrote:

>Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> >>--- Nick Papadonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>Is anyone aware of either hardware or software
> >>>components to decode PL
> >>>tone, DTMF and CTCSS?  Open source software is
> >>>preferred.
>
> >>
> >>There was a program called WinTone that would do this.
> >>Not sure where to find a copy of it on the internet
> >>now as they seem to have been taken off.  Think the
> >>last one was version 2.02
> >
> >
> > As soon as I heard that it was being dropped I made
> > sure that there is a copy on www.repeater-builder.com ...
> > use the search function on the main page.
>
>Thanks Folks, but this is only an executable, no source code for FFT etc...

FFT?

http://www.fullspectrum.com/deeth/programming/fft.html

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning question

[Bob Dengler]

At 4/22/2005 08:03 AM, you wrote:

>At 09:58 AM 4/22/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >At 07:22 AM 4/22/2005, Mathew Quaife wrote:
> >>If these are like my TX/RX duplexers, the slighest movement of the
> >>tuning rods makes a huge difference, especially on the tx
> >>side.  retune would be a good idea.  Take them slow, they are fun to
> >>tune.  Enjoy!
>
><---Is it even possible to tune within a +/- 15 Khz window? OK, maybe
>possible but practical?
>
>Ken

Yes, possible.  But maybe not practical.  Depends on the notch Q, which is 
why I suggested checking the notch depth at the new freq. first.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning question

[Bob Dengler]

At 4/21/2005 07:31 PM, you wrote:

>Doug,
>
>Retune.  The difference is small enough that the jumper cables will not 
>have to
>be altered.
>
>73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

I'm going to go against the flow here & say no, don't retune.  Instead, 
check to see where the notches are exactly.  If there is a significant 
difference in isolation between where they are now & where they need to be, 
go ahead & touch up the NOTCH adjustments only.  The pass will be broad 
enough such that 15 kHz won't be noticeable.

Checking performance is a lot easier that a full-blown retune.  Could save 
you a lot of unnecessary work.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: AS Mobile Line sold to Maxrad...

[skipp025]

Andrew has sold the mobile antenna part of AS to 
Maxrad. Maxrad is moving the plant to another 
(USA) location. 

I have to rely on my remaining inventory of glass 
mount VHF & UHF Antennas until Maxrad gets the AS 
line back into production. 

cheers,
skipp

www.radiowrench.com

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> Mark;
> 
> ASP / Antenna Specialist was purchased by Andrew 
> and the antenna is still production model.  I have 
> used several in amateur as well as commercial 
> service.  The specifications sheet is available at : 
> http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com/ASPD-701.pdf
> 
> 
> 73
> Richard D. Reese
> http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors

[JOHN MACKEY]

Yea, 30-50 Mhz is my favorite band.

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> ANY Lobanders in that group ?  like 45 thru 50 Mhz. ? something is up in the
air right now being asked indirectly to help out when I have very little time
right now  seems kinda odd ? for me that is.
> 
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>   Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:44 PM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors
> 
> 
>   We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust.  All
were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range.  So
far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are.  I'm first interested
in opinions on their general value.  This group seems like a good place to
gather such info.
>   I looked at model numbers.  Probably a dozen are R43RTE1190BA  (70 / 12
volt);  other model numbers were R43RTN1190A,  R73RTN3100A & R43RTE1190AA.
>   Do I have a gold mine or a bunch of boat anchors?
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-850 repeater questions---Update

[rtoplus]

Hi all

I sent the TKR-850 out on Wednesday, the 20th and it just arrived back 
from the service center a few minutes ago...with a brand new PA board 
(I opened it up to check).  Haven't checked the power out yet, but 
according to their service slip, diagnosed and checked everything with 
40W out.  Can't belive I got it back so soon!  

I rekin I got me a new 'peter!


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer retuning

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At 05:55 AM 4/25/2005, James wrote:
>where are you??

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer retuning

[James]

where are you??

James

Dave VanHorn wrote:

  
  
  
third, they go back in a box for a trip back to mama (tx/rx)

  
  
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