[Repeater-Builder] Re: Link Comm RLC-6
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi John, > > I love the RLS-1000 and the original > RBS-1000. The RBS was an analog controlled > version of the RLS-1000 (has a stand alone > up). Audio is great, you can download the > manual from the CAT Auto Controller Site. > > The 224.200 Machine mentioned... > wasn't anywhere close to where we were > working that weekend. Thanks for the RCA > Manuals (I think). Someone gave me an RCA > VHF Base Station last Sunday at the Sonoma > Swap. Should I thank them? > > I really like the RLS-1000... it's a smart > answer for those of us who use other brand > controllers. > > skipp > > > > "John Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Skipp. > > Would you care to comment on the audio quality > > and frequency response of the RLS-1000? I have > > considered a pair of these for a project I > > have going here in town using an RLCI use the RLS-1000 switch in several of my projects and they work out great. I only have one complaint about them and that is that the PL logic lines from each port are summed together meaning that if any one radio indicates active PL logic to the controller all of the connected radios do. I only use the RLS-1000 on one of my ports on a link-comm controller to bring in audio from three different receivers at the repeater site. One the RLS-1000 ports is the main coordinated receiver and the other two ports are just plain old Kenwood TM-X41 radios connected though some com-spec PL decoders. Each of the decoders keep the intermod heard on that port of the RLS-1000 to a minimum normally. If someone were to talk in on the main receiver now that it has provided the logic needed for the controller to start repeating all of the intermod from the other receivers now comes right on though the repeater because the PL logic is no longer keeping their noise from entering the system. I wish the RLS-1000 managed each of the logic lines for the CTCSS logic separately instead of summing them together. The folks at C.A.T. did tell me that they are coming out with a new 200 serious controller with an RLS-1000 type switch built in to it that does exactly this with its CTCSS logic line. -1. I > > could run the two ports on the RLC-1 as separate > > repeaters (2 Mtrs and 220), and still have the > > separate link and remote base ports using the > > 2 RLS-1's. > > > > What say you? > > > > Also, was this controller problem happening when we were there? Or > > did it happen after? I swear I didn't touch anything. ;-) > > > > Later.John ab6li Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
or better yet I had a trident ltr controller on a uhf system and at times it would lock up my rlc2 controller until i took it off the same power source and used battery power it fixed it.. but the trident controller was holding the rlc controller in weird mode when it would goto ltr channel 3 - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. Interesting questions Dave, All the electrical equipment is properly grounded and up to code. Grounds are grounded properly and the supply cords are complete and include the ground. Another last symptom clue. The main problem ends up being the controller locking up in a looping reset mode. The missing audio ends up be a sidebar when the controller starts whacking out. There is and has been from some years, a load of commercial gear running nearby. This system was working peachy, then started acting funny and gave me a bit of grief trying to rid the gremlin. Now things are peachy again. skipp > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NØATH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skipp - Sorry but I have to make a stab at this. How about the condition of the electrical service entrance. Are the > grounds really ground? Or are the power supply cords still using a grounded cord? Sounds to me like something in the > audio chain is building some sort of lumped capacitance, and is not getting to a common ground properly. Is there a true > common ground point for all gear, and if there is, is there any other commercial gear running close by? > > Dave / NØATH Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Link Comm RLC-6
Hi John, I love the RLS-1000 and the original RBS-1000. The RBS was an analog controlled version of the RLS-1000 (has a stand alone up). Audio is great, you can download the manual from the CAT Auto Controller Site. The 224.200 Machine mentioned... wasn't anywhere close to where we were working that weekend. Thanks for the RCA Manuals (I think). Someone gave me an RCA VHF Base Station last Sunday at the Sonoma Swap. Should I thank them? I really like the RLS-1000... it's a smart answer for those of us who use other brand controllers. skipp > "John Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Skipp. > Would you care to comment on the audio quality > and frequency response of the RLS-1000? I have > considered a pair of these for a project I > have going here in town using an RLC-1. I > could run the two ports on the RLC-1 as separate > repeaters (2 Mtrs and 220), and still have the > separate link and remote base ports using the > 2 RLS-1's. > > What say you? > > Also, was this controller problem happening when we were there? Or > did it happen after? I swear I didn't touch anything. ;-) > > Later.John ab6li Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
dam pagers ! always causing grief LOL - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. Interesting questions Dave, All the electrical equipment is properly grounded and up to code. Grounds are grounded properly and the supply cords are complete and include the ground. Another last symptom clue. The main problem ends up being the controller locking up in a looping reset mode. The missing audio ends up be a sidebar when the controller starts whacking out. There is and has been from some years, a load of commercial gear running nearby. This system was working peachy, then started acting funny and gave me a bit of grief trying to rid the gremlin. Now things are peachy again. skipp > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NØATH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skipp - Sorry but I have to make a stab at this. How about the condition of the electrical service entrance. Are the > grounds really ground? Or are the power supply cords still using a grounded cord? Sounds to me like something in the > audio chain is building some sort of lumped capacitance, and is not getting to a common ground properly. Is there a true > common ground point for all gear, and if there is, is there any other commercial gear running close by? > > Dave / NØATH Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Interesting questions Dave, All the electrical equipment is properly grounded and up to code. Grounds are grounded properly and the supply cords are complete and include the ground. Another last symptom clue. The main problem ends up being the controller locking up in a looping reset mode. The missing audio ends up be a sidebar when the controller starts whacking out. There is and has been from some years, a load of commercial gear running nearby. This system was working peachy, then started acting funny and gave me a bit of grief trying to rid the gremlin. Now things are peachy again. skipp > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NØATH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skipp - Sorry but I have to make a stab at this. How about the condition of the electrical service entrance. Are the > grounds really ground? Or are the power supply cords still using a grounded cord? Sounds to me like something in the > audio chain is building some sort of lumped capacitance, and is not getting to a common ground properly. Is there a true > common ground point for all gear, and if there is, is there any other commercial gear running close by? > > Dave / NØATH Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
So 224.300 is 'iffy'? Actually it would be the frequencies 1.6 MHz below that, right? (the inputs - 222.100 - 222.700) Joe M. Scott Zimmerman wrote: > > Helps if I would include the actual frequencies instead of just xxx for > place markers!!! > > Bottom of the repeater band through about 224.300-. The phenomenon is > centered on 224.000- > > Scott > - Original Message - > From: "Duane Brantley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:17 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 6-m Repeater
I have 3 old TV-translators. Cabinets are 6ft tall. Does anyone know if I could convert any of these parts into one, to build a 6m repeater? Or if anyone else has a need for the translators for parts? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
This is rare and I don't think it is the case, but since we are taking guesses. On ocasion I have run accross chassis positive equipment in a rack. But usually when that happens wires start to smoke from the power leads of the equipment that is chassis ground. This was the case of my first repeater that is now MIA. The power supply had the B+ on the rack plate. But it flat out melted the wiring, didn't have a chance to do much to the audio chain. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Link Comm RLC-6
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I now do the same thing with the Cat Auto > RLS-1000. I consider the SCom 7K with a Vyex DAB > and the RLS-1000 to be "the dope". in repeater > controllers. > > that is all... > > cheers, > skipp Hi Skipp. Would you care to comment on the audio quality and frequency response of the RLS-1000? I have considered a pair of these for a project I have going here in town using an RLC-1. I could run the two ports on the RLC-1 as separate repeaters (2 Mtrs and 220), and still have the separate link and remote base ports using the 2 RLS-1's. What say you? Also, was this controller problem happening when we were there? Or did it happen after? I swear I didn't touch anything. ;-) Later.John ab6li Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
Helps if I would include the actual frequencies instead of just xxx for place markers!!! Bottom of the repeater band through about 224.300-. The phenomenon is centered on 224.000- Scott - Original Message - From: "Duane Brantley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
Duane and all, If you plan on converting a Mastr II to 220, realize that there is a Segment of frequencies that WILL NOT WORK full duplex in the same radio set. This is a VERY similar situation to the UHF Mastr II's. On a UHF Mastr II it is a well known and documented fact that there are certain frequencies that will not duplex in the same radio chassis. This had been a mystery for some time. The resolve had always been to simply order the crystals "opposite side injection". That was the remedy and no one quite knew why it was the way it was, but that was the fix that worked. Well, one day that Kevin and I had nothing better to do. (Yea, Right!!!) We ran in to a similar problem on a 220 Mastr II conversion. This proceeded to turn into a lengthy 2 day research project into why this self-quieting phenomenon happens. This has been documented and will be written into an article once there is again a time where there is nothing better to do in the repeater-builder shop. Moral of the story: There is a band of frequencies from approximately xxx to xxx that is not useable in the 220 band. Unlike the UHF Mastr II, the 220 problem cannot be fixed by simply flipping the injection side of the receiver. (This leads to a whole new set of problems and calculations.) Again, all of this info will be made available for public dissection when time allows. Scott - Original Message - From: "Duane Brantley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater > > > Hello everyone, > > I recently purchased 4-cavity duplexer for a 220MHZ repeater. I'm > thinking about using a GE Mastr II mabile radio for the Rx/Tx part. > I'm very green at this and figuring this out on my own. Do I need 2 > Mastr II radios, or will one work? I will modify it for 220 service > once I know how many I need to get. Also, is the NHRC-3/M2+ a good > comtroller for $189? Or is there a better one. This will be a low > power repeater . Looking to run 30-50 watts. > > Thanks for the help, > > Duane > KD5NFQ > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Skipp - Sorry but I have to make a stab at this. How about the condition of the electrical service entrance. Are the grounds really ground? Or are the power supply cords still using a grounded cord? Sounds to me like something in the audio chain is building some sort of lumped capacitance, and is not getting to a common ground properly. Is there a true common ground point for all gear, and if there is, is there any other commercial gear running close by? Dave / NØATH - Original Message - From: "Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. RF leaking into the controller causing it to hang? -Sean On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, skipp025 wrote: > > > Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz > Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with > a guess? > > Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass > the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW > and speech audio ok. > > Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return > after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. > The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the > problem returned (missing repeat audio) > > Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and > firmware, returned the repeater to service. > Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. > > 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller > locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced > the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about > 3 days same problems return. > > 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link > RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) > Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. > Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. > Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. > > X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in > loop fault reset problem (same as the first). > > All supply power normal, the same supply operates > three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, > the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares > and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal > (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand > back and scratch your head, then tell me what you > would do now? > > * > > I found the problem, care to guess what it was? > > Your turn > skipp > > ps: Answer in a follow up post: > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
Hi all As a software and hardware engineer of 20 years and a ham also for over 20 years I would recommend an ICS controller. And, if Kevin had the time to install the new Single M controller in a Micor that he asked for you will see a Single M repeater controller mounted internally in a Micor at Repeater Builder at Dayton. You can see ICS at booth 207 www.ics-ctrl.com 73 Brian ka9pmm DCFluX wrote: >As an engineer I recomend you go with a ready made 222MHz solution >such as those made by Kevin and Scott at Repeater-Builder.com. It is >a good choice if you do not have all the test equipment and skill to >make one of these run where they shouldn't. > >http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrII220conversion.html > >They offer several options, if you wish you can order a truely >turn-key repeater just by specifiying the frequency you want and an >internal NHRC controller. > >I saw the Micor version at dayton last year, but alas I am a fan of GE >equipment, but both are avalible. It looked pretty good from where I >was standing right behind Kevin and I have undercover video avalible >on request. > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Link Comm RLC-6
I had an RLC-6. Great little board. Sold it and the 5-K and got the RLC-4. The link configuration I used prior to the RLC-6 was home brew and worked surprisingly well. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:54 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Link Comm RLC-6 > > > >> DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I should mention that I have >> never heard of a RLC-6. > > In days of old, when Knights were bold, Link Comm > actually started when Alan built a link board for > the S-Com 5K controller. I believe it was called > the rlc-5 or just plain linking board. > > Great design, published in 73 Magazine (RIP) & > way ahead of its time. I have photo copies of > the original articles. > > By the time I called Alan to order the original > S-Com 5K linking PC Board, he had upgraded and > updated the circuit to the controller generic > RLC-6 Linking board. Very nice design, my hat > was off to Alan for taking the work out of my > linking demand. > > Don't know how many they ever made or sold, I > have 12 of them. > > You can consider it very similar in function > to the current CAT Auto RLS or RBS-1000 board. > Drop controller logic lines low to route both > TX and RX linking in Chain or Hub format. > > Options for hub or chain linking were dip switch > set along with priorities and cos logic. Various > selections could be configured and stored in the > two on-board eproms. A status display board was > also an option. > > Alan or Steve told me they stopped selling them > because they wanted you to buy their multi port > controller instead. I'm sure demand was not great > as few people I met ever seemed to know about the > RLC-6. > > I now do the same thing with the Cat Auto > RLS-1000. I consider the SCom 7K with a Vyex DAB > and the RLS-1000 to be "the dope". in repeater > controllers. > > that is all... > > cheers, > skipp > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mistery Repeater Equipment list
coaxial power connector bad Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mistery Repeater Equipment list > > > Not bad, not bad > > Your close... very close (but no cigar yet) > > But not the exact answer I'm looking for... > > A clue you ask..? "not between the chassis" But > don't jump to conclusions, every repeater in the > rack is properly grounded. > > The full story first thing in the morning. > > skipp > > >> XE2SI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Gounding between chassis. > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Link Comm RLC-6
> DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should mention that I have > never heard of a RLC-6. In days of old, when Knights were bold, Link Comm actually started when Alan built a link board for the S-Com 5K controller. I believe it was called the rlc-5 or just plain linking board. Great design, published in 73 Magazine (RIP) & way ahead of its time. I have photo copies of the original articles. By the time I called Alan to order the original S-Com 5K linking PC Board, he had upgraded and updated the circuit to the controller generic RLC-6 Linking board. Very nice design, my hat was off to Alan for taking the work out of my linking demand. Don't know how many they ever made or sold, I have 12 of them. You can consider it very similar in function to the current CAT Auto RLS or RBS-1000 board. Drop controller logic lines low to route both TX and RX linking in Chain or Hub format. Options for hub or chain linking were dip switch set along with priorities and cos logic. Various selections could be configured and stored in the two on-board eproms. A status display board was also an option. Alan or Steve told me they stopped selling them because they wanted you to buy their multi port controller instead. I'm sure demand was not great as few people I met ever seemed to know about the RLC-6. I now do the same thing with the Cat Auto RLS-1000. I consider the SCom 7K with a Vyex DAB and the RLS-1000 to be "the dope". in repeater controllers. that is all... cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Swap out controller spare
Good for commercial stuff, not an option for a conversion, homebrew or kit-built repeater. ... ie for a repeater, which arrived with no original mfgrs controller. Besides, "external controllers never die", do they? cheers, skipp > Have a swapout method planned so when the > external controller quits - or you think > it has, you can un-plug the controller and > use the repeater as the manufacturer intended > - much simpler for troubleshooting. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mistery Repeater Equipment list
Not bad, not bad Your close... very close (but no cigar yet) But not the exact answer I'm looking for... A clue you ask..? "not between the chassis" But don't jump to conclusions, every repeater in the rack is properly grounded. The full story first thing in the morning. skipp > XE2SI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gounding between chassis. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
Hi Duane, I am in the process of building a 220 repeater as well, pretty much from spare parts and whatever I can find. I found an exciter that once was part of a Clegg FM-76, and some sort of VHF Engineering receiver kit that was put together decades ago. The exciter runs around 500 mW and I have a Ramsey PA-20 power amp that should do 25 watts with that drive. I have heard of people taking Clegg FM-76's apart and using the receiver/transmitter and PA boards to make their repeaters with good success. I have several FM-76's and the Midland version of this radio but wouldn't dare take them apart just because I like the radios like they are. I have read the posts some people have made concerning old VHF Engineering boards other "cheap" kits and how they are junk, but I'll bet it largely depends on who puts them together. My OM has a VHF Engineering 220 repeater that has been runnig for 25 years with almost no down time. Hamtronics makes neat little boards for TX and RX, visit their page and see what they have to offer. Some people use Kendecomm (spelling?) which I am not familiar with, and also Spectrum made a 220 MHz repeater. I have heard of people making great success with modifying the Mastr II's but never tried (looks time consuming) I am in the process of making/modifying my own 220 duplexer. Where did you get yours and how much did you pay? What kind of antenna were you going to use? Contact me off list if you like 73, KC4FWC > > Hello everyone, > > I recently purchased 4-cavity duplexer for a 220MHZ repeater. I'm > thinking about using a GE Mastr II mabile radio for the Rx/Tx part. > I'm very green at this and figuring this out on my own. Do I need 2 > Mastr II radios, or will one work? I will modify it for 220 service > once I know how many I need to get. Also, is the NHRC-3/M2+ a good > comtroller for $189? Or is there a better one. This will be a low > power repeater . Looking to run 30-50 watts. > > Thanks for the help, > > Duane > KD5NFQ > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Your issue here is the exact reason I suggest to repeater builders that have a simple test method planned for the system with one of the fairly expensive but really un-necessary after-market controllers. Have a swapout method planned so when the external controller quits - or you think it has, you can un-plug the controller and use the repeater as the manufacturer intended - much simpler for troubleshooting. Neil McKie - WA6KLA skipp025 wrote: > > Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz > Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with > a guess? > > Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass > the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW > and speech audio ok. > > Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return > after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. > The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the > problem returned (missing repeat audio) > > Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and > firmware, returned the repeater to service. > Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. > > 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller > locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced > the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about > 3 days same problems return. > > 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link > RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) > Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. > Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. > Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. > > X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in > loop fault reset problem (same as the first). > > All supply power normal, the same supply operates > three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, > the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares > and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal > (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand > back and scratch your head, then tell me what you > would do now? > > * > > I found the problem, care to guess what it was? > > Your turn > skipp > > ps: Answer in a follow up post: > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list
Gounding between chassis. - Original Message - From: Gary Laforce To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list I'm like a kid a Christmas I can't wait to open that email. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list
I want to know as well (me - someone who does not use spectrum or maggiore) James Gary Laforce wrote: I'm like a kid a Christmas I can't wait to open that email. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list The first controller layout was an S-Com 7k through one of the original Link RLC-6 boards. The RF was the famous Spectrum Brand TX & RX strips. The power supply (which also runs three other repeaters) is a Triplitte. In sequence: I replaced the RLC-6 board after trying a "shotgun" chip swap and new firmware on the original RLC-6. I replaced the S-Com 7K with a another 7K and updated firmware (the Vyex 7K DAB). I replaced the Spectrum RF Equipment with brand new Maggiore stuff, which included the second updated S-Com 7K (the RLC-6 was not in the second version). I replaced the second 7K with a third 7K. The problem still rears its ugly head. Main audio fails and the controller goes into a weird loop lockup reset mode. The power supply works fine, also running three other repeaters, which work just peachy. The third generation equipment has the same problems as the first generation. I found the problem... I'll take a question or two more if you want, then I'll post what I found. cheers skipp Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 4/27/2005 11:01 AM, you wrote: Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". Were all the repeater controllers RLC-6s, or was the replacement something else? Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
As an engineer I recomend you go with a ready made 222MHz solution such as those made by Kevin and Scott at Repeater-Builder.com. It is a good choice if you do not have all the test equipment and skill to make one of these run where they shouldn't. http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrII220conversion.html They offer several options, if you wish you can order a truely turn-key repeater just by specifiying the frequency you want and an internal NHRC controller. I saw the Micor version at dayton last year, but alas I am a fan of GE equipment, but both are avalible. It looked pretty good from where I was standing right behind Kevin and I have undercover video avalible on request. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
I should mention that I have never heard of a RLC-6. On 4/27/05, Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 4/27/2005 11:01 AM, you wrote: > > >Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > Were all the repeater controllers RLC-6s, or was the replacement something > else? > > Bob NO6B > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list
I'm like a kid a Christmas I can't wait to open that email. Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list The first controller layout was an S-Com 7k through one of the original Link RLC-6 boards. The RF was the famous Spectrum Brand TX & RX strips. The power supply (which also runs three other repeaters) is a Triplitte. In sequence: I replaced the RLC-6 board after trying a "shotgun" chip swap and new firmware on the original RLC-6. I replaced the S-Com 7K with a another 7K and updated firmware (the Vyex 7K DAB). I replaced the Spectrum RF Equipment with brand new Maggiore stuff, which included the second updated S-Com 7K (the RLC-6 was not in the second version). I replaced the second 7K with a third 7K. The problem still rears its ugly head. Main audio fails and the controller goes into a weird loop lockup reset mode. The power supply works fine, also running three other repeaters, which work just peachy. The third generation equipment has the same problems as the first generation. I found the problem... I'll take a question or two more if you want, then I'll post what I found. cheers skipp > Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 4/27/2005 11:01 AM, you wrote: > > > >Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > Were all the repeater controllers RLC-6s, or was the replacement something > else? > > Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Mistery Repeater Equipment list
The first controller layout was an S-Com 7k through one of the original Link RLC-6 boards. The RF was the famous Spectrum Brand TX & RX strips. The power supply (which also runs three other repeaters) is a Triplitte. In sequence: I replaced the RLC-6 board after trying a "shotgun" chip swap and new firmware on the original RLC-6. I replaced the S-Com 7K with a another 7K and updated firmware (the Vyex 7K DAB). I replaced the Spectrum RF Equipment with brand new Maggiore stuff, which included the second updated S-Com 7K (the RLC-6 was not in the second version). I replaced the second 7K with a third 7K. The problem still rears its ugly head. Main audio fails and the controller goes into a weird loop lockup reset mode. The power supply works fine, also running three other repeaters, which work just peachy. The third generation equipment has the same problems as the first generation. I found the problem... I'll take a question or two more if you want, then I'll post what I found. cheers skipp > Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 4/27/2005 11:01 AM, you wrote: > > > >Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > Were all the repeater controllers RLC-6s, or was the replacement something > else? > > Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
At 4/27/2005 11:01 AM, you wrote: >Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". Were all the repeater controllers RLC-6s, or was the replacement something else? Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
You should one need one master II. But it will have to modify for full duplex so do this as well as tuning it up completely on a vhf freq first before starting the mods so that you know you are working with a good unit. I have been a bench tech for years and that mod it not for someone that is new to bench work (I don't say this to be disrespectful or in any way I'm I try to put you down but if you haven't done this type of mod before you may what to find and Elmer to help you please don't take this the wrong way). NHRC make a good controller I have install a few of the 3's and 4's and they work 100%. With a mobile master II you should be able to run up to about 35 watts 100% duty with out a fan and you may ever get by with 50watts with a couple of good fans on the heat sink of the PA. On a master II make sure that you put a 10 ohm 10 watt load resister on the audio output or you will have an oscillation in you rx audio on the same note make sure to not ground either side of the audio output lines it is BTL audio or (floating) Hope this helps if you have more question or what ever fill free to email direct Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Main Business Line 573.449.8310 Shop Fax line [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duane Brantley Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:17 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater Hello everyone, I recently purchased 4-cavity duplexer for a 220MHZ repeater. I'm thinking about using a GE Mastr II mabile radio for the Rx/Tx part. I'm very green at this and figuring this out on my own. Do I need 2 Mastr II radios, or will one work? I will modify it for 220 service once I know how many I need to get. Also, is the NHRC-3/M2+ a good comtroller for $189? Or is there a better one. This will be a low power repeater . Looking to run 30-50 watts. Thanks for the help, Duane KD5NFQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Seems like I remember an issue something like this during the initial beta testing of Ken's controller... specifically the stamp going wacko and locking the controller. I have a tendancy to agree with Matt's analysis regarding the PNP. You never mentioned a specific type of transmitter... only that you replaced the entire RF deck. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DCFluX Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. Most likely: Audio from the radio which may be biased at 5, 6 or 10volts is not being passed through a non-polarized capacitor to isolate the AC audio from the DC bias and is possibly charging capacitors backwards, causing them to fail/short and pulling the op-amps or audio switches to a DC power bus. Audio switches just go buggo when they see voltage on the lines they are switching that is greater than Vcc. Solve by placing a 1uF non-polar ceramic in the audio line. Possible: Audio is not padded or power surges are getting into the controller audio input line and blowing up the audio switches which may consist of 4051, 4053 or 4066 ICs. To solve this build a simple 1.2V hard clipper from a bridge rectifier. Possible: Bad PNP transistor that is driving a FET that the audio runs through. PNP will slowly "creep" to an on state and mute the audio. I have seen this problem but it was the keying circuit in a MASTR-II base. Would cause the transmitter to key and jam on about 2 minutes after the controllers PTT signal droped. On 4/27/05, vmckever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like you have another radio getting into the controller. Could be > one of the connections i.e. audio cables is resonant at the offending > radio's freq. > > Vincent N6OA > > - Original Message - > From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:01 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. > > > > > > > Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > > > I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz > > Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with > > a guess? > > > > Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass > > the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW > > and speech audio ok. > > > > Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return > > after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. > > The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the > > problem returned (missing repeat audio) > > > > Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and > > firmware, returned the repeater to service. > > Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. > > > > 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller > > locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced > > the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about > > 3 days same problems return. > > > > 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link > > RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) > > Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. > > Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. > > Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. > > > > X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in > > loop fault reset problem (same as the first). > > > > All supply power normal, the same supply operates > > three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, > > the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares > > and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal > > (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand > > back and scratch your head, then tell me what you > > would do now? > > > >* > > > > I found the problem, care to guess what it was? > > > > Your turn > > skipp > > > > ps: Answer in a follow up post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Most likely: Audio from the radio which may be biased at 5, 6 or 10volts is not being passed through a non-polarized capacitor to isolate the AC audio from the DC bias and is possibly charging capacitors backwards, causing them to fail/short and pulling the op-amps or audio switches to a DC power bus. Audio switches just go buggo when they see voltage on the lines they are switching that is greater than Vcc. Solve by placing a 1uF non-polar ceramic in the audio line. Possible: Audio is not padded or power surges are getting into the controller audio input line and blowing up the audio switches which may consist of 4051, 4053 or 4066 ICs. To solve this build a simple 1.2V hard clipper from a bridge rectifier. Possible: Bad PNP transistor that is driving a FET that the audio runs through. PNP will slowly "creep" to an on state and mute the audio. I have seen this problem but it was the keying circuit in a MASTR-II base. Would cause the transmitter to key and jam on about 2 minutes after the controllers PTT signal droped. On 4/27/05, vmckever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like you have another radio getting into the controller. Could be > one of the connections i.e. audio cables is resonant at the offending > radio's freq. > > Vincent N6OA > > - Original Message - > From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:01 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. > > > > > > > Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > > > I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz > > Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with > > a guess? > > > > Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass > > the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW > > and speech audio ok. > > > > Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return > > after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. > > The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the > > problem returned (missing repeat audio) > > > > Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and > > firmware, returned the repeater to service. > > Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. > > > > 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller > > locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced > > the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about > > 3 days same problems return. > > > > 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link > > RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) > > Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. > > Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. > > Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. > > > > X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in > > loop fault reset problem (same as the first). > > > > All supply power normal, the same supply operates > > three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, > > the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares > > and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal > > (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand > > back and scratch your head, then tell me what you > > would do now? > > > >* > > > > I found the problem, care to guess what it was? > > > > Your turn > > skipp > > > > ps: Answer in a follow up post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Sounds like you have another radio getting into the controller. Could be one of the connections i.e. audio cables is resonant at the offending radio's freq. Vincent N6OA - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club. > > > Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz > Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with > a guess? > > Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass > the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW > and speech audio ok. > > Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return > after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. > The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the > problem returned (missing repeat audio) > > Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and > firmware, returned the repeater to service. > Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. > > 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller > locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced > the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about > 3 days same problems return. > > 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link > RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) > Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. > Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. > Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. > > X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in > loop fault reset problem (same as the first). > > All supply power normal, the same supply operates > three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, > the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares > and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal > (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand > back and scratch your head, then tell me what you > would do now? > >* > > I found the problem, care to guess what it was? > > Your turn > skipp > > ps: Answer in a follow up post: > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
RF leaking into the controller causing it to hang? -Sean On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, skipp025 wrote: > > > Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". > > I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz > Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with > a guess? > > Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass > the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW > and speech audio ok. > > Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return > after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. > The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the > problem returned (missing repeat audio) > > Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and > firmware, returned the repeater to service. > Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. > > 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller > locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced > the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about > 3 days same problems return. > > 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link > RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) > Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. > Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. > Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. > > X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in > loop fault reset problem (same as the first). > > All supply power normal, the same supply operates > three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, > the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares > and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal > (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand > back and scratch your head, then tell me what you > would do now? > > * > > I found the problem, care to guess what it was? > > Your turn > skipp > > ps: Answer in a follow up post: > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Mystery: Repeater Problem of the Month Club.
Mystery: "Repeater Problem of the Month Club". I just repaired a problem with our 224 Mhz Repeater System. Let's see how you fair with a guess? Symptom: Repeater audio would fail, not pass the receiver to the transmitter. Controller CW and speech audio ok. Initial Service: Missing Repeat Audio would return after re-seating the Link RLC-6 Audio Board chips. The repeater would run fine for 1-3 days before the problem returned (missing repeat audio) Second Service: Replaced the RLC-6 board and firmware, returned the repeater to service. Lasted 1 week before the audio again failed. 2nd Symptom: Arrived to find the main Controller locked in a quasi reseting fault mode. Replaced the controller with a spare. Unit lasted about 3 days same problems return. 3rd Trip: Replaced entire Repeater RF deck and Link RLC-6 Board with spare (different brand and model) Repeater. Controller is still the replaced 2nd unit. Everything bench tested for 2 days at the shop. Unit failed after 1 day back at the site. X-Number Service Call: Found 2nd Controller in loop fault reset problem (same as the first). All supply power normal, the same supply operates three other repeaters in the same rack. At this point, the entire repeater had been swapped out for spares and the DC Power Supply tests and works normal (operated no where near its max capacity). Stand back and scratch your head, then tell me what you would do now? * I found the problem, care to guess what it was? Your turn skipp ps: Answer in a follow up post: Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Lookling to build a 220MHz repeater
Hello everyone, I recently purchased 4-cavity duplexer for a 220MHZ repeater. I'm thinking about using a GE Mastr II mabile radio for the Rx/Tx part. I'm very green at this and figuring this out on my own. Do I need 2 Mastr II radios, or will one work? I will modify it for 220 service once I know how many I need to get. Also, is the NHRC-3/M2+ a good comtroller for $189? Or is there a better one. This will be a low power repeater . Looking to run 30-50 watts. Thanks for the help, Duane KD5NFQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] GM 300 repeater
Hi i have just obtained what you might call an interface, from e-bay, it is claimed to turn two Motorola GM300s into a repeater, it comes with no instructions on how to use it, it has a lable on it marked CASON, but that is all, has anyone come across this device before, or no how to use it. 73s Bob M0CSV. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I guess that you could use a Xantrex C-35 charge controller connected to supply out to charge (I use one on my solar setup) for "smart" charging... then could use a second C-35 as a load controller (they can be configured for either function)... and build up some sort of mains sensing relay or something. I have even seen folks use an Astron supply with a constant load across the output to stabilize the current draw in conjunction with a C-35. Then run the machine on the batteries I have 12 Dynasty 110ah gel cells in my solar bank, and they weren't cheap, so I went the extra mile to protect them Just a thought.. be creative!! mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA > John Place wrote: > > I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a > way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. > > Neil McKie wrote: > > > That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. > > > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > > > > > >> John Place wrote: > >> > >> It is a TPN1110B supply. > >> > >> Neil McKie wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Which Micor Power Supply? > >> > > >> > Neil > >> > > >> > John Place wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater > >> >> with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply > >> >> to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. > >> >> > >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
Good. Connect your 12 volt battery to the large terminals on the back through a fuse. Be certain to carefully adjust the voltage out out of the power supply to keep from boiling away the battery acid. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Maire-Radios wrote: > > did a check of the one I have (new) it is a TPN-1105A that has > the battery hook up for a Micro repeater 75 watt model > > John > > - Original Message - > From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply > > > > > > > I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. > > > > I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - > > one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what > > you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. > > > > You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or > > TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > >> John Place wrote: > >> > >> I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a > >> way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. > >> > >> Neil McKie wrote: > >> > >> > That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. > >> > > >> > Neil - WA6KLA > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> John Place wrote: > >> >> > >> >> It is a TPN1110B supply. > >> >> > >> >> Neil McKie wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Which Micor Power Supply? > >> >> > > >> >> > Neil > >> >> > > >> >> > John Place wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater > >> >> >> with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply > >> >> >> to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
did a check of the one I have (new) it is a TPN-1105A that has the battery hook up for a Micro repeater 75 watt model John - Original Message - From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply > > > I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. > > I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - > one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what > you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. > > You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or > TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. > > Hope this helps, > > Neil - WA6KLA > >> John Place wrote: >> >> I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a >> way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. >> >> Neil McKie wrote: >> >> > That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. >> > >> > Neil - WA6KLA >> > >> > >> > >> >> John Place wrote: >> >> >> >> It is a TPN1110B supply. >> >> >> >> Neil McKie wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Which Micor Power Supply? >> >> > >> >> > Neil >> >> > >> >> > John Place wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater >> >> >> with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply >> >> >> to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA > John Place wrote: > > I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a > way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. > > Neil McKie wrote: > > > That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. > > > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > > > > > >> John Place wrote: > >> > >> It is a TPN1110B supply. > >> > >> Neil McKie wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Which Micor Power Supply? > >> > > >> > Neil > >> > > >> > John Place wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater > >> >> with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply > >> >> to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. > >> >> > >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater whit portable
I agree I have 2 R100's that have been up for years and they just keep working. I bought 2 as tech specials for parts and have not used them. If anyone is interested in a tech special R100 I can make them a deal. They will make the trip to Princeton Ill hamfest this year. Have a safe one. WA0VUSLarry KemperMuscatine, Iowa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
