Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking 2 MTR2000 Repeaters

2006-03-08 Thread Rich Summers
Thanks Brian..I'll check that out.

Rich


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 An ICS Linker IIa can do this.
 
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 Rich Summers wrote:
 
 Has anybody tries linking 2 MTR2000 repeaters
 together?
 What I need to do is link a VHF to UHF repeater so
 when one or the 
 other receives and transmits the other will do the
 same. Do I need to 
 use a controller for this function or can I
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTD: UHF element for URM-120/Sierra164B Wattmeter

2006-03-08 Thread k7pfj



Neil,

Am i reading this correct, You are NOW willing to part with your beloved BIRD collection. When i was there you held on to it like it was your first born and not willing to sell a meter. I do belive i even offered good money and you still declined. Now i am to belive that it must have been a personal thing.

Mike

-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   You are living in the wrong place ...   The Bird Collection is here ... wattmeters and loads ... galore   But, for some reason, you still like to live - there ...   Neil   BTW, so is the Motorola Motrac, Mocom-70, Mitrek, Micor,  GE mastr-pro and Exec and mastr II collections ...   besides a few manuals too ... but you just love to live on  Arcadia  Original Message   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTD: UHF element for  URM-120/Sierra164B Wattmeter  Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:01:28 -0800   So borrow a Bird Thruline with the proper UHF range slug, and  run various power levels into the combination and make up your  own calibration chart. You will probably find that it's pretty  linear...  like x% off from y to z frequencies...Until I found a military version of a Termaline in a surplus  store (about 1985 or so) I was using a Heath in-line VHF  wattmeter and a Bird resistive load. I tested the setup  with a friend's Bird Thruline and it was acceptable at  2m and about 5-10% off at 220MHz and about 10-15%  off at UHF (if forget the exact percentages, but they were  consistent across the ham band).And since most tuning is done for maximum or minimum,  the exact numbers aren't necessary.And for those that are, you can take the number off your  wattmeter, multiply it by the known fudge factor, and  record the result in your logbook.Mike WA6ILQAt 05:15 PM 3/1/06, you wrote:--- Dennis Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  Good morning all,   I am looking for a UHF element for theabove wattmeter.There were various power and specific frequencyranges made...I needone that will cover the 440 amateur band at minimum.The element thatwent to 1 Ghz would be ideal. What do you have?   Please excuse the marginally on topic postfor some lists,but finding one of these is more difficult than Ithought.   Thanks!Unlike the Bird elements the URM120 or Struthers  wattmeter slugs are calibrated for the meter it is  used with. How much differance it will make to  subistute the slugs from one meter to another is  unknown to me.  __  Do You Yahoo!?  Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around  http://mail.yahoo.comYahoo! Groups Links  Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links   * To visit your group on the web, go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/   * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 













  




  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Ge Custom MVP

2006-03-08 Thread Alexander N Tubonjic
  Hello All,
   I was wondering if anyone had a manual for a UHF GE Custom MVP they
would be willing to scan and e-mail to me? Trying to retune and put an
amp inline with one and need some information. Any help would be
greatly appreciated, thanks.
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[Repeater-Builder] NHRC-10 for sale:

2006-03-08 Thread Scott
For Sale by KF4PVQ, John Fridley:

(1) NHRC-10 controller with the NHRC-10-CAB rack cabinet. In used,
working, VG condition. This is a Cadillac controller, does linking and
phone patch, as well as tons of other stuff. List price on NHRC's
website is $538.00 for both items. Also included are the controller to
repeater cable with big ferrites and metal DB-9 connectors on each
end, as well as the power cable, and full manual. The programming
software is available off the NHRC website, and any CI-V cable can
program it.

I am listing this item for John. He had aquired it in a repeater
buy-out, but prefers Cat Auto controllers. He is very busy with his
company, and working on the estate of his father. That is why I am
listing it for him.

Terms:
Sale price $350 firm
Buyer pays all shipping costs (UPS or USPS only)
Your USPS Money Order or Cashier's Check will be made out to John
Fridley. Once recieved, controller will be packed well and shipped.

Contact Scott Duckworth, NA4IT at na4it at yahoo dot com.

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[Repeater-Builder] Ericsson Master III Base Station

2006-03-08 Thread Charles Mumphrey
Hello Group!
I have a chance to play with a couple Ericsson Master III Base
Stations...
Repeater Model: SXUM01 with Band Split G3 and also G9
I have not examined the programming yet. Anyone have experience with
retuning to 440 ham freqs...ie, can it be done cost effective by
software, and aligningRX and TX stable and reliable without
interference with any radio services?
Or will I need to change out the factory modules to G7 .
Thank You for your time and reources!
Charlie

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 Mhz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 Mhz + 162.2
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ericsson Master III Base Station

2006-03-08 Thread Steve Bosshard
Best I can remember there were some MINOR mods in the TX systhesizer - been
year since I had one on 444.025, but did work FB.

Steve
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ericsson Master III Base Station

Hello Group!
I have a chance to play with a couple Ericsson Master III Base
Stations...
Repeater Model: SXUM01 with Band Split G3 and also G9
I have not examined the programming yet. Anyone have experience with
retuning to 440 ham freqs...ie, can it be done cost effective by
software, and aligningRX and TX stable and reliable without
interference with any radio services?
Or will I need to change out the factory modules to G7 .
Thank You for your time and reources!
Charlie

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 Mhz + 162.2
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Racking radios and duplexers

2006-03-08 Thread Nate Duehr
Kris Kirby wrote:
 So what's the consensus opinion on how best to rack radios, duplexers and 
 amps? I've got a 5' rack I'm putting everything into and my amps are 
 continuous duty rated and accordingly have forced air cooling. What I'm 
 looking at is that I have two 3RU shelves of duplexers, a 4RU amp, a 3RU 
 power supply and then the radios themselves. I'd like to keep everything 
 so the jumpers are as short as possible, and I don't want the repeater to 
 overheat come summer. 

There are plenty of amps out there rated for continuous duty in various 
power levels that don't require forced air cooling.  ;-)

Anyway...

 Most installations I've seen place the power supply near the floor. I'm 
 also a bit torn when it comes to how to space things out to prevent any 
 interference to the recievers if at all possible. By and large, it seems 
 that to conserve rack space, I'll have to use two radios per shelf, which 
 means the RX and TX will be on the same shelf. I do have a small quanitity 
 of hardline I'm looking to wire the TX side with. 

Sometimes common sense takes over.  Where's your power at the site?  In 
an overhead rail configuration, or coming from the floor.  Will your 
cabinet be grounded/bonded to the ground system?  Are you going to set 
it on the concrete or isolate it from the floor as a possible ground 
potential at lightning voltages?

There's some practical questions about the real site that you have to 
answer before answering the where to put stuff in the cabinet question.

 Now, another question is that with 25MHz spacing, can I expect the 100W 
 duplexers to survive in an enviroment with 150W going up on a different 
 frequency (f+25MHz) using the same antenna?

Someone else will have to answer this part - I tend to say use things 
at their rated power levels or not at all... but someone here may have 
more useful comments.

 So far I've been playing with this idea:
 
 Duplexers
 Amp
 Radios
 controller
 power supply
 
 But an alternative that came to mind is:
 power supply
 amp
 duplexers
 controller
 etc.

Also don't forget depth -- many repeaters are designed to have the 
radios in front and the PA in the back, in the same rack-space, vertically.

Our configuration in one cabinet is this, if it helps:

PC sized AC UPS/Ethernet/Telephone gear on a shelf
PC on a shelf
Gap in front and back
S-Com 7K Controller
VHF Repeater w/PA mounted behind (MASTR II Station/Repeater)
Gap in front, terminal barrier strip in back for various connections
Controller
UHF linking repeater w/PA mountd behind (MASTR II again)
Monster Astron Power Supply for all of the above

(We might be changing this a bit and switching to GE MASTR II power 
supplies if the Astron ever dies... then each repeater would have its 
own power source.)

Duplexers are not in this cabinet, they're mounted to a shelf behind the 
cabinets about 2' below the ceiling.  All cabling to them runs from the 
polyphaser panel to them and then down into the tops of the cabinets. 
If we can, we use good quality N-bulkhead connectors to do pass-throughs 
from the outside of the cabinet to inside, avoiding putting a cable 
through a possibly sharp-edged hole in the top of the cabinet.  (Also 
gives a convenient test point, and we've never seen a good quality 
N-bulkhead passthrough connector cause us any trouble (yet... knock on 
wood).

Cabinet is grounded/bonded to tower lightning protection system and all 
three cabinets are side-by-side and bolted together.  Cabinets are 
raised off the concrete floor of the building by placing them on 
custom-built Trex decking material platforms.  This way the old 
everything rises and falls together rule of lightning protection is 
accomplished.

 Please, oh great gurus, impart me with wisdom. :)

No guru here, learned from others.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Racking radios and duplexers

2006-03-08 Thread Nate Duehr
Nate Duehr wrote:

 No guru here, learned from others.

p.s. One of the things they taught... Keep the heavy stuff LOW.

:-)

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Racking radios and duplexers

2006-03-08 Thread KA9QJG
Good Info given, I would like to add My 220 Repeater MICOR Mobile Built By
Scott, which Works far better then My and many others Expectations, With
that Said, I put it in My 4 ft Rack Just above the Astron 50 Amp Power
Supply, I noticed a HUM on the Transmit just before the system Dropped, I
went back to the Site and raised the Micor about 6 In above the Astron and
Now Everything sounds Great it Was not a Switching power Supply and Must of
Been picking up the Hum from the Transformer. I was also told some put the
Power Supply on the Top of the Rack and the Heat will rise out.
Happy Repeater Building

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ge Custom MVP

2006-03-08 Thread DCFluX
A quick search of the vast Repeater Builder website reveals:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30147f.pdf
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30148f.pdf
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30151c.pdf
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Racking radios and duplexers

2006-03-08 Thread Nate Duehr
KA9QJG wrote:
 Good Info given, I would like to add My 220 Repeater MICOR Mobile Built By
 Scott, which Works far better then My and many others Expectations, With
 that Said, I put it in My 4 ft Rack Just above the Astron 50 Amp Power
 Supply, I noticed a HUM on the Transmit just before the system Dropped, I
 went back to the Site and raised the Micor about 6 In above the Astron and
 Now Everything sounds Great it Was not a Switching power Supply and Must of
 Been picking up the Hum from the Transformer. I was also told some put the
 Power Supply on the Top of the Rack and the Heat will rise out.
 Happy Repeater Building
 
 Don KA9QJG

Yeah, Heat rises is definitely another good general tidbit of 
knowledge to think about in any cabinet or rack.

In large computer data centers I've worked in, we even had rules about 
which row to blow hot air into... servers racked the wrong way around 
would be turned the correct direction so the rows alternated hot/cold, 
so the return air vents in the ceiling could do their jobs correctly...

Nate WY0X




 
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[Repeater-Builder] Doug Hall Voter Manual Required

2006-03-08 Thread Kevin Natalia Mitchell
Hi All,

I have a Doug Hall 4RV/2 voter.
I am in the process of connecting the unit up, but I can not find my manual 
to wire and set it up.
I have connected up 3x receivers to the inputs, and toggled the switches to 
operate, but the voter does not trigger any of the lines. So I need to check 
the manual for information.
So if someone has a copy of it online, could I please request a copy.

Regards

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Racking radios and duplexers

2006-03-08 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Nate Duehr wrote:
 Sometimes common sense takes over.  Where's your power at the site?  In 
 an overhead rail configuration, or coming from the floor.  Will your 
 cabinet be grounded/bonded to the ground system?  Are you going to set 
 it on the concrete or isolate it from the floor as a possible ground 
 potential at lightning voltages?

Not really even a factor at the moment. 
 
 There's some practical questions about the real site that you have to 
 answer before answering the where to put stuff in the cabinet question.

I own the cabinet, and it's housing the repeater and (hopefully) all 
accessories. 
 
 Also don't forget depth -- many repeaters are designed to have the 
 radios in front and the PA in the back, in the same rack-space, vertically.

Non-issue at the moment. The cabinet assures depth is provided.
 
 Our configuration in one cabinet is this, if it helps:
 
 PC sized AC UPS/Ethernet/Telephone gear on a shelf
 PC on a shelf
 Gap in front and back
 S-Com 7K Controller
 VHF Repeater w/PA mounted behind (MASTR II Station/Repeater)
 Gap in front, terminal barrier strip in back for various connections
 Controller
 UHF linking repeater w/PA mountd behind (MASTR II again)
 Monster Astron Power Supply for all of the above

This is another instance where the 'hot stuff' is down in the bottom. 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Racking radios and duplexers

2006-03-08 Thread Andrew G.



Another thing to consider would be to mount a thermostatically controlled fan at the top of the cabinet pulling coolair in. Something in the range of 10-15in should do the trick for overheating prevention. Gravity in another good thing to keep in mind. (Usually) Heavy supply at bottom, light amp up top. Andy
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Ge Custom MVP

2006-03-08 Thread Alexander N Tubonjic
  Awesome, Thank you much!
Alexander 

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 A quick search of the vast Repeater Builder website reveals:
 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30147f.pdf
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30148f.pdf
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Ge Custom MVP

2006-03-08 Thread Alexander N Tubonjic
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Question

2006-03-08 Thread n7zef


I have a friend that has access to some Motorola Spectra radios in the VHF 
(160mHz) area. Are these radios good radios, and will they work for a 2 
meter repeater? 
 Thanks

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[Repeater-Builder] IE 7 OT for some

2006-03-08 Thread Mark A. Holman
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/shrunk.mspx

Microsoft is now doing a Beta Version of IE 7 if you click on the bar on 
the left you can read all the stuff weather fan or foe .


later

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Question

2006-03-08 Thread Mike Morris
At 05:11 PM 03/08/06, you wrote:

I have a friend that has access to some Motorola Spectra radios in the VHF
(160mHz) area.

Look at www.reepater-builder.com ... go to the Motorola page, then 
the Spectra page.

Look at the ranges section. The low range is 136-162MHz, the high range
is 146-174MHz.  Either will work well as a 2m mobile, but the low 
range is preferred.
What is the ACTUAL model number AND the ID number off the label?

Are these radios good radios,

They are top-of-the-line previous generation public safety grade.
Motorola no longer provides depot service for them so most agencies
are selling them off.  The time bomb capacitor problem didn't help.

and will they work for a 2 meter repeater?

Not as the repeater transmitter itself.   Look at the size of the heat sink.
It's the old mobile-in-a-continuous-duty-environment problem.

Mike WA6ILQ






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Question

2006-03-08 Thread Mike Morris
Thanks for the heads up Eric.  The new keyboard can't spell any better than
the old one.

It's http://www.repeater-builder.com

Mike WA6ILQ

At 09:19 PM 03/08/06, you wrote:
  Mike,

Double-check the link... it won't work, due to the misspelling.

73, Eric WB6FLY

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At 05:11 PM 03/08/06, you wrote:

 I have a friend that has access to some Motorola Spectra radios in the VHF
 (160mHz) area.

Look at www.reepater-builder.com ... go to the Motorola page, then
the Spectra page.

Look at the ranges section. The low range is 136-162MHz, the high range
is 146-174MHz.  Either will work well as a 2m mobile, but the low
range is preferred.
What is the ACTUAL model number AND the ID number off the label?

 Are these radios good radios,

They are top-of-the-line previous generation public safety grade.
Motorola no longer provides depot service for them so most agencies
are selling them off.  The time bomb capacitor problem didn't help.

 and will they work for a 2 meter repeater?

Not as the repeater transmitter itself.   Look at the size of the heat sink.
It's the old mobile-in-a-continuous-duty-environment problem.

Mike WA6ILQ






 
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