Re: [Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with a 2 meter repeater, any options

2006-03-14 Thread Lee Williams
A notch cavity on the remote radio tuned to notch out the repeater might 
help. Forget trying to use it close to your repeater frequency. It may 
work on 147 or high 146 pairs if they are strong signals.  73,Lee

n9lv wrote:
> What I need to know is if there is any type of isolator or other 
> device that I can put on my dual band radio that will keep my two 
> meter transmitter out of the 2 meter side of my radio.  I know this is 
> a long shot, but if it can work, it would be excellent.  
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> What I am running is 120 watts out of the duplexer on 145.410 Mhz.
>
> Any suggestions.  The antenna's are on seperate towers but only about 
> 40 feet apart base to base, the remote base antenna is at 90 feet and 
> the repeater antenna is at 130 feet.
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> Thanks.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trilectric

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Hi Dave,

The amp I believe is to be a 6wt in 100 out amp. If you want to drive it
with more power 20+wt bypass the first stage.

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

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I acquired a Trilectric amplifier, model A-6100UBR and have no specs 
for it other than it lists an operating frequency of 451 MHz. Can 
anyone give my some insight as to input and output power for this unit?

Thanks.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with a 2 meter repeater, any options

2006-03-14 Thread Eric Lemmon





Mathew,
 
We still need to know what RX and TX frequencies will be in the TM-731A 
radio.  Do you intend to use this radio on both VHF and UHF?  If your 
plan is to use the Kenwood on a fixed 2m simplex frequency that is not too close 
to the 145.410 MHz output of your repeater, you might be able to use a couple of 
bandpass cavities on it.  It is far better (and complies with Part 97) to 
use a UHF simplex frequency for remote base operation.  Again, a bandpass 
cavity may be necessary.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY 



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QuaifeSent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:37 PMTo: 
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Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with a 2 meter repeater, any 
options

Hi Eric, the remote radio is basically a dual band radio that is tied into 
the system using the Doug Hall RBI-1.  The radio is a Kenwood 
TM-731A.  It will be running low power at about 5 watts max.
 
Repeater is 145.410 - 144.810 PL 131.8  
The repeater is a converted micor mobile into a DB-224 up at 130 Ft. fed 
with 7/8" hardline.  Power out is 115 Watts out of the duplexer, 200 watt 
amp feeding the duplexers.
 
Mathew
Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mathew,As 
  you know, the 600 kHz split on 2m channels makes it difficult to 
  performfrequency-selective filtration without using several large 
  cavities. Inorder to suggest some options, we need to know a lot more 
  about yourinstallation, such as:1. RX and TX frequencies for each 
  radio2. TX power and RX sensitivity for each radio3. Make and model of 
  each radio is helpful4. Any other radio transmitters at the same 
  site?5. Are all frequencies fixed, or is one radio going to be 
  agile?Bear in mind that horizontal separation between antennas is 
  almostmeaningless- it would require more than a mile of horizontal 
  separation toprovide the same isolation as a few hundred feet of vertical 
  separation.Therefore, depending upon the frequencies involved, it may be 
  possible touse a combination of notch and pass cavities to achieve your 
  goal.73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY-Original 
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  meter remote base radio in house witha 2 meter repeater, any 
  optionsWhat I need to know is if there is any type of isolator or 
  other device that I can put on my dual band radio that will keep my two 
  meter transmitter out of the 2 meter side of my radio. I know this is 
  a long shot, but if it can work, it would be excellent. What I am 
  running is 120 watts out of the duplexer on 145.410 Mhz.Any 
  suggestions. The antenna's are on separate towers but only about 40 feet 
  apart base to base, the remote base antenna is at 90 feet and the repeater 
  antenna is at 130 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with a 2 meter repeater, any options

2006-03-14 Thread Mathew Quaife



Hi Eric, the remote radio is basically a dual band radio that is tied into the system using the Doug Hall RBI-1.  The radio is a Kenwood TM-731A.  It will be running low power at about 5 watts max.     Repeater is 145.410 - 144.810 PL 131.8    The repeater is a converted micor mobile into a DB-224 up at 130 Ft. fed with 7/8" hardline.  Power out is 115 Watts out of the duplexer, 200 watt amp feeding the duplexers.     Mathew  Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Mathew,As you know, the 600 kHz split on 2m channels makes it difficult to performfrequency-selective filtration without using several large cavities. Inorder to suggest some options, we need to know a lot more about yourinstallation, such as:1. RX and TX frequencies
 for each radio2. TX power and RX sensitivity for each radio3. Make and model of each radio is helpful4. Any other radio transmitters at the same site?5. Are all frequencies fixed, or is one radio going to be agile?Bear in mind that horizontal separation between antennas is almostmeaningless- it would require more than a mile of horizontal separation toprovide the same isolation as a few hundred feet of vertical separation.Therefore, depending upon the frequencies involved, it may be possible touse a combination of notch and pass cavities to achieve your goal.73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY-Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9lvSent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:46 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house witha 2 meter repeater, any optionsWhat I need to
 know is if there is any type of isolator or other device that I can put on my dual band radio that will keep my two meter transmitter out of the 2 meter side of my radio. I know this is a long shot, but if it can work, it would be excellent. What I am running is 120 watts out of the duplexer on 145.410 Mhz.Any suggestions. The antenna's are on separate towers but only about 40 feet apart base to base, the remote base antenna is at 90 feet and the repeater antenna is at 130 feet.Thanks.MathewYahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with a 2 meter repeater, any options

2006-03-14 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mathew,

As you know, the 600 kHz split on 2m channels makes it difficult to perform
frequency-selective filtration without using several large cavities.  In
order to suggest some options, we need to know a lot more about your
installation, such as:
1.  RX and TX frequencies for each radio
2.  TX power and RX sensitivity for each radio
3.  Make and model of each radio is helpful
4.  Any other radio transmitters at the same site?
5.  Are all frequencies fixed, or is one radio going to be agile?

Bear in mind that horizontal separation between antennas is almost
meaningless- it would require more than a mile of horizontal separation to
provide the same isolation as a few hundred feet of vertical separation.
Therefore, depending upon the frequencies involved, it may be possible to
use a combination of notch and pass cavities to achieve your goal.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
   

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with
a 2 meter repeater, any options

What I need to know is if there is any type of isolator or other 
device that I can put on my dual band radio that will keep my two 
meter transmitter out of the 2 meter side of my radio.  I know this is 
a long shot, but if it can work, it would be excellent.  

What I am running is 120 watts out of the duplexer on 145.410 Mhz.

Any suggestions.  The antenna's are on separate towers but only about 
40 feet apart base to base, the remote base antenna is at 90 feet and 
the repeater antenna is at 130 feet.

Thanks.

Mathew









 
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[Repeater-Builder] Need: 220 or 900 Mhz link radio's, also a Kenwood TM-701E Dual Band

2006-03-14 Thread n9lv
I am looking for some radios to use to link some 440 repeaters 
together.  Prefer to find something in the 220 Mhz band, or if cheap 
enough in the 900 Mhz band, prefer something that is not going to 
require a mega-load of work to get there.  Let me know what you have 
and prices.  I am also in the market for a Kenwood TM-701E Dualband 
radio if anyone has a spare one lying around.  Thanks.

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[Repeater-Builder] Having a 2 meter remote base radio in house with a 2 meter repeater, any options

2006-03-14 Thread n9lv
What I need to know is if there is any type of isolator or other 
device that I can put on my dual band radio that will keep my two 
meter transmitter out of the 2 meter side of my radio.  I know this is 
a long shot, but if it can work, it would be excellent.  

What I am running is 120 watts out of the duplexer on 145.410 Mhz.

Any suggestions.  The antenna's are on seperate towers but only about 
40 feet apart base to base, the remote base antenna is at 90 feet and 
the repeater antenna is at 130 feet.

Thanks.

Mathew









 
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[Repeater-Builder] Trilectric

2006-03-14 Thread Dave
I acquired a Trilectric amplifier, model A-6100UBR and have no specs 
for it other than it lists an operating frequency of 451 MHz. Can 
anyone give my some insight as to input and output power for this unit?

Thanks.

Dave, K7QT








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Brass or Aluminum tuning slugs

2006-03-14 Thread w8ak





I have used aluminum slugs out of uhf HT-220's and also used plain old pan 
head brass screws. Both work fine in moving low band Maxtracs.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread steve
Hi Jim

applies to all repeaters both commercial and ham
Over here commercial rptrs are often called community
repeaters were several users use the same freq base stn, but have different
ctcss access tones.
Say user 1 uses 77.0Hz tone, user 2 uses 110.9. If user one
transmits then he accesses the base stn using his 77.0 tone
but even though user 2 may have his set on he is locked out
because his tone is 110.9. The different tones go via the tone access panel.
Years ago when I used to service these the gear
was mounted in a 5foot high 19 inch rack It comprised of
the tone panel, main tx/rx and standby tx/rx. If the main failed then the
standby came on line and to tell everyone the main
had failed it transmitted a beep tone. Most of the ant,s were
what we called SA460,s which were the pole with the 4 elements mounted
around it. Another point of interest ham repeaters in the UK can only use
vertical ants, no beams or
yagi,s.


73

Steve
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> > in just talkthrough mode, ie, anyone can access and use them.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread Jim B.
steve wrote:
> Hi
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> a bit of info for you. In the UK no repeaters are allowed to run
> in just talkthrough mode, ie, anyone can access and use them.

fwiw-we were talking commercial and GMRS, not ham...not sure what the 
equiv. of GMRS is in the UK...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread steve
Hi

a bit of info for you. In the UK no repeaters are allowed to run
in just talkthrough mode, ie, anyone can access and use them.
On older rptrs a toneburst of 1750Hz was needed to open up the RX and as
long as the rx was getting an incoming signal all was fine. When the rx
ceased being used the rptr shut down
and waited for the next 1750 access.
All newer repeaters use ctcss on the rx,s and some use both
ctcss and toneburst. It is obvious why rx access needs a tone
just imagine what would happen if qrm opened up the squelch
either the tx PA would go, unless you use time out, in the UK
it is typicly 5mins, or users would just get loads of noise...
As I have said before the situation is different in the UK in so much that
you have to go through a long process to get permission to run a rptr and
things like tx pwr out, ant,s, squelch sensitivity etc are all laid down for
each rptr.

73

Steve
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> Dick,
>
> There are other methods to restrict access... as in
> burst/selective tone operation. It's popular in Europe
> and other countries.
>
> The pain in the a$$ for many GMRS and Commercial radio
> operators are the people putting up tone panels with a
> lot of reserve codes set to beep-only (don't pass audio).
>
> One "AH" can hose up entire lists of ctcss/dcs codes for
> use by other and never even try to use them
>
> skipp
>
> > All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are
> > REQUIRED to have restricted access, and cannot be
> > carrier squelch. PERIOD.
> > Jim Barbour
> > WD8CHL
> >
>
> > >> Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a
> > >> requirement for tone squelch... digital or CTCSS.
> > >> I don't think tone squelch is require, but it sire is
> > >> good common sense for a GMRS repeater.
> > >> Dick
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-14 Thread skipp025
Hi Jim, 

I've never had a tone or ltr panel go bad in service 
(knocking on wood).  I've had some ham repeater controllers 
crap, but never a commercial product. 

The Comm Spec TP-3200 has a well known problem with 
lock-up. Comm Spec will send you a free reset timer and 
install instructions if you simply ask for one. 

I believe the added circuit reboots the TP-3200 about 
every half hour with the small added timer board. (has 
3 wire hook up).  In the real world, it's probably about 
the best fix Comm Spec could have come up with. 

Although I've not yet had a tone or ltr panel fail, I 
always take spares along... when the repeater site is 
a 3.5 hour each way trip.   One need only make that 
mistake one time... 

cheers, 
skipp 

> "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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> skipp025 wrote:
> > Re: Kenwood TKR 820
> > 
> > I agree Jim, but some guys pull the boards and sell them 
> > on Ebay for about $50 each.  If you don't think you'll 
> > ever need them, you generate another $50 income and run 
> > an external tone/ltr panel through the rear connector. 
> > 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread skipp025
Dick, 

There are other methods to restrict access... as in 
burst/selective tone operation. It's popular in Europe 
and other countries. 

The pain in the a$$ for many GMRS and Commercial radio 
operators are the people putting up tone panels with a 
lot of reserve codes set to beep-only (don't pass audio). 

One "AH" can hose up entire lists of ctcss/dcs codes for 
use by other and never even try to use them

skipp 

> All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are 
> REQUIRED to have restricted access, and cannot be 
> carrier squelch. PERIOD.
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
>

> >> Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a 
> >> requirement for tone squelch... digital or CTCSS.  
> >> I don't think tone squelch is require, but it sire is
> >> good common sense for a GMRS repeater.
> >> Dick
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread Johnny
Would you please quote the rule that says that.
Johnny

Jim B. wrote:
> DCFluX wrote:
> 
>>Yeah, just like it is the law for any 2M repeater on a mountain top to
>>have PL on the receiver.  Um, Right
>>
>>On 3/13/06, Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement for tone
>>>squelch...
>>>digital or CTCSS.  I don't think tone squelch is require, but it sire is
>>>good common
>>>sense for a GMRS repeater.
>>>
>>>Dick
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Brass or Aluminum tuning slugs

2006-03-14 Thread DCFluX
You have the thread specifications, I advise you try your local
hardware store.  Those bins that are in the back are full of all kinds
of niffty items. You may have to trim to the desired length with a
dremmel though. Expect to pay .15 for brass and .10 for aluminum.

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> for the coils in Motorola Maxtracs?
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> long.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread DCFluX
> All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are REQUIRED to have
> restricted access, and cannot be carrier squelch. PERIOD.
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[Repeater-Builder] Regulations discussions

2006-03-14 Thread KD5SFA

Okay...lets cool this down a little bit.  We all know that 
discussions of FCC Regulations is Off Topic here.  Since 
people are beginning to get heated about it, it is time
to move along.  The person whose project this is needs to 
understand for themselves the rules and if they have questions
they can contact the FCC.  Have a nice day

73,
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Moderator




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread Jay Urish
Hey Jim,
Lets put this to rest-- Go get the latest copy of the regs and post the 
chapter and verse. Cut n' paste maybe.



Jim B. wrote:
> rtoplus wrote:
>> Jim, I'm sorry, but GMRS (part 95) repeaters are NOT required to 
>> have tone access.  GMRS is a shared service and there is absolutely 
>> no requirement by the FCC that access is restricted by a PL tone.  
>> Same is true with at least my part 90 LMRS license, I'm not required 
>> to have CTCSS or DCS enabled on my repeater.  For some assigments in 
>> part 90, maybe its a requirement but not on mine, VHF.  I'm sorry 
>> but you have your info totally incorrect (I'm not trying to flame 
>> you).
>>
> 
> You better go back and re-read it. YOU CANNOT HAVE A CARRIER SQUELCH 
> REPEATER IN PART 90 OR 95!!!
> 
> Or you can just wait till you get a visit.
> 

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[Repeater-Builder] Midland Base Tech Repeater Controller Question

2006-03-14 Thread Vincent Caruso
Hello All,

I was just gifted with a project involving a Midland UHF Base-Tech 
repeater, the preliminary check on this thing seem fine 9operating as a 
base), however while sitting in storage someone glommed the controller 
and CTCSS boards.

My questions are, has anyone on this board interfaced a controller and 
CTCSS encoder /decoder to one of these?  If so how?
Now here is the long shot, dose anyone have an original controller board 
for one of these and perhaps the original CTCSS board?

Thanks






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Indust, ConsInd\)
According to which rule 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread Jim B.
rtoplus wrote:
> Jim, I'm sorry, but GMRS (part 95) repeaters are NOT required to 
> have tone access.  GMRS is a shared service and there is absolutely 
> no requirement by the FCC that access is restricted by a PL tone.  
> Same is true with at least my part 90 LMRS license, I'm not required 
> to have CTCSS or DCS enabled on my repeater.  For some assigments in 
> part 90, maybe its a requirement but not on mine, VHF.  I'm sorry 
> but you have your info totally incorrect (I'm not trying to flame 
> you).
> 

You better go back and re-read it. YOU CANNOT HAVE A CARRIER SQUELCH 
REPEATER IN PART 90 OR 95!!!

Or you can just wait till you get a visit.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-14 Thread Jim B.
Paul Finch wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> The 820 repeater I have does not have a controller in it, wonder if it ever
> did.  I got it second hand but it was set up for LTR trunking.

If it really is a TKR and not a TKB, then yes it had the controller board.

> Did Kenwood have a option of no controller?  Be interesting to find out.

No.

> By the way, who knows what they were thinking when/if they removed the
> controller, no reason to say something or someone is stupid.  That area
> where the old controller was is the perfect place to install a small
> controller with the ID built in, something the 820 controller does not have.

Well, that might be true now, but it wasn't when those repeaters were 
most popular about 10-15 years ago. Not that still did encode/decode.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread rtoplus
Jim, I'm sorry, but GMRS (part 95) repeaters are NOT required to 
have tone access.  GMRS is a shared service and there is absolutely 
no requirement by the FCC that access is restricted by a PL tone.  
Same is true with at least my part 90 LMRS license, I'm not required 
to have CTCSS or DCS enabled on my repeater.  For some assigments in 
part 90, maybe its a requirement but not on mine, VHF.  I'm sorry 
but you have your info totally incorrect (I'm not trying to flame 
you).

My appologies to the group re: regulations discussion.  If someone 
wants to take this matter up with me, you can email me at robert @ 
rtoplus dot com.


Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> DCFluX wrote:
> > Yeah, just like it is the law for any 2M repeater on a mountain 
top to
> > have PL on the receiver.  Um, Right
> > 
> > On 3/13/06, Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement 
for tone
> >> squelch...
> >> digital or CTCSS.  I don't think tone squelch is require, but 
it sire is
> >> good common
> >> sense for a GMRS repeater.
> >>
> >> Dick
> 
> All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are REQUIRED to 
have 
> restricted access, and cannot be carrier squelch. PERIOD.
> 
> -- 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread rtoplus
Jim, I'm sorry, but GMRS (part 95) repeaters are NOT required to 
have tone access.  GMRS is a shared service and there is absolutely 
no requirement by the FCC that access is restricted by a PL tone.  
Same is true with at least my part 90 LMRS license, I'm not required 
to have CTCSS or DCS enabled on my repeater.  For some assigments in 
part 90, maybe its a requirement but not on mine, VHF.  I'm sorry 
but you have your info totally incorrect (I'm not trying to flame 
you).

My appologies to the group re: regulations discussion.  If someone 
wants to take this matter up with me, you can email me at robert @ 
rtoplus dot com.


Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> DCFluX wrote:
> > Yeah, just like it is the law for any 2M repeater on a mountain 
top to
> > have PL on the receiver.  Um, Right
> > 
> > On 3/13/06, Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement 
for tone
> >> squelch...
> >> digital or CTCSS.  I don't think tone squelch is require, but 
it sire is
> >> good common
> >> sense for a GMRS repeater.
> >>
> >> Dick
> 
> All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are REQUIRED to 
have 
> restricted access, and cannot be carrier squelch. PERIOD.
> 
> -- 
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> WD8CHL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-14 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote:
> Re: Kenwood TKR 820
> 
> I agree Jim, but some guys pull the boards and sell them 
> on Ebay for about $50 each.  If you don't think you'll 
> ever need them, you generate another $50 income and run 
> an external tone/ltr panel through the rear connector. 
> 
> cheers,
> skipp 

Takes all kinds don't it? What about when the tone panel goes bad?
Oh well...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-14 Thread Jim B.
DCFluX wrote:
> Yeah, just like it is the law for any 2M repeater on a mountain top to
> have PL on the receiver.  Um, Right
> 
> On 3/13/06, Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement for tone
>> squelch...
>> digital or CTCSS.  I don't think tone squelch is require, but it sire is
>> good common
>> sense for a GMRS repeater.
>>
>> Dick

All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are REQUIRED to have 
restricted access, and cannot be carrier squelch. PERIOD.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radio ID

2006-03-14 Thread dalite01
Southern Linc is a Nextel-Like LMR network with cellular option.  It is
a part of the "Southern Company" which also includes Savannah Electric
and Power Company (among other holdings).  

It is up for refarming, as is Nextel, due to the Public Safety spectrum
that it occupies.  

Treat it as a Nextel Mobile Base Station.  I doubt there is any
difference other than the codeplug, as you can "unlock" most of their
phones to be used on either Nextel or Boost (the prepaid Nextel).  



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I saw this Posted a   SOUTHERN LINC MOTOROLA MOBILE BASE STATION is
this Some Special Motorola radio You All Down south Use and is named
after You, Only kidding but I have never heard of this Model. What is it
?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power supply identification request.

2006-03-14 Thread Bob M.
The SP01 means it was a Special Product, a stock unit
modified for the customer. You won't be able to find
an exact schematic for it as Motorola apparently
doesn't or won't release those kinds of things.

I checked my MSF5000 manual and although there are
numbers close to it, nothing matches exactly. Let's
hope someone else can find a match to that TPN number.

Bob M.
==
--- zl3tda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for that prompt Bob.  Found the number and it
> is  TPN1226A with
> SP01 stamped next to this number. Fingers crossed I
> can find a circuit
> and notes for connections. :-))
> 
> 73
> Graham 
> ZL3TV.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Bob M."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Look all over the chassis for another model
> number,
> > probably on a yellow or orange sticker, something
> that
> > starts with TPN.
> > 
> > This almost sounds like a power supply for an
> MSF5000,
> > but I'm sure there are other similar station
> supplies.
> > Same number and size of fuses, and the equalize
> switch
> > would indicate it is the battery-charging version.
> > 
> > But I hesitate to say that's what it is for sure
> > because I couldn't find any reference to that 25D
> > number.
> > 
> > Bob M.
> > ==
> > --- zl3tda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi to all on the list. I have "lurked" for a
> while
> > > and always get a
> > > great deal from reading the various posts and
> infos
> > > that are posted. I
> > > now have a question for the group: I am wanting
> to
> > > get some
> > > information on a powersupply that I have, which
> is
> > > ex repeater use. It
> > > is a Motorola and is model number 25D84880NO2.
> It
> > > has a 13.8v dc
> > > secondary and a 14 v dc secondary. The 13.8v is
> for
> > > supplying the
> > > radios and the 14v for charging batteries, it
> seems.
> > > I would like to
> > > use this as a power source in my motorhome and
> use
> > > the 14v to charge
> > > two 225 amp/hour Gel batteries. There is a
> circuit
> > > board on this
> > > supply with three 4 amp fuses and one 10amp
> fuse, an
> > > eight posted plug
> > > and an equalise switch. Can anyone help me with
> a
> > > circuit, wiring
> > > information, and idea of what the eight pins are
> > > for? All and any
> > > information will be muchly appreciated. I have
> two
> > > 55 watt panels to
> > > add to the setup also and would appreciate any
> ideas
> > > as to an "ideal"
> > > setup and control configuration to get the best
> out
> > > of the setup.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance. ( Ps: it will have a mobile
> UHF
> > > repeater connected
> > > up... just to keep this post "on topic" :-)
> > > 
> > > 73 de Graham Shaw
> > > ZL3TV ( ex - ZL3TDA )
> > > Christchurch
> > > New Zealand.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Power supply identification request.

2006-03-14 Thread zl3tda
Thanks for that prompt Bob.  Found the number and it is  TPN1226A with
SP01 stamped next to this number. Fingers crossed I can find a circuit
and notes for connections. :-))

73
Graham 
ZL3TV.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Look all over the chassis for another model number,
> probably on a yellow or orange sticker, something that
> starts with TPN.
> 
> This almost sounds like a power supply for an MSF5000,
> but I'm sure there are other similar station supplies.
> Same number and size of fuses, and the equalize switch
> would indicate it is the battery-charging version.
> 
> But I hesitate to say that's what it is for sure
> because I couldn't find any reference to that 25D
> number.
> 
> Bob M.
> ==
> --- zl3tda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi to all on the list. I have "lurked" for a while
> > and always get a
> > great deal from reading the various posts and infos
> > that are posted. I
> > now have a question for the group: I am wanting to
> > get some
> > information on a powersupply that I have, which is
> > ex repeater use. It
> > is a Motorola and is model number 25D84880NO2. It
> > has a 13.8v dc
> > secondary and a 14 v dc secondary. The 13.8v is for
> > supplying the
> > radios and the 14v for charging batteries, it seems.
> > I would like to
> > use this as a power source in my motorhome and use
> > the 14v to charge
> > two 225 amp/hour Gel batteries. There is a circuit
> > board on this
> > supply with three 4 amp fuses and one 10amp fuse, an
> > eight posted plug
> > and an equalise switch. Can anyone help me with a
> > circuit, wiring
> > information, and idea of what the eight pins are
> > for? All and any
> > information will be muchly appreciated. I have two
> > 55 watt panels to
> > add to the setup also and would appreciate any ideas
> > as to an "ideal"
> > setup and control configuration to get the best out
> > of the setup.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance. ( Ps: it will have a mobile UHF
> > repeater connected
> > up... just to keep this post "on topic" :-)
> > 
> > 73 de Graham Shaw
> > ZL3TV ( ex - ZL3TDA )
> > Christchurch
> > New Zealand.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radio ID

2006-03-14 Thread mch
Southern Link is a SE-USA 'NexTel'.

Joe M.

Don wrote:
> 
> I saw this Posted a   SOUTHERN LINC MOTOROLA MOBILE BASE STATION is
> this Some Special Motorola radio You All Down south Use and is named
> after You, Only kidding but I have never heard of this Model. What is it ?
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Brass or Aluminum tuning slugs

2006-03-14 Thread sgreact47
Does anyone have a source for either brass or aluminum tuning slugs
for the coils in Motorola Maxtracs?

They slugs are pretty close to 6X32 or 3.5mmX.6 pitch and 1/4 inch 
long.

I am trying to move some 42-50 Maxtracs up to 6 meters without much 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: photos of dead MASTR II PA

2006-03-14 Thread sgreact47
Holy smoke, Nate. Time to get out the silver solder!

Those connections even fail with the 'omega' straps.







 
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