RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors

[n . mckie]

  RF RCA Connectors ??? 

  Neil 

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>My stock of RF RCA connectors (the ones used for carrying RF inside
>GE 
>MVPs, Mastr IIs etc.) has run dry, & I haven't seen any at our local
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply

[Gary]

Yeah, I saw the RF Parts hit. They are here in my area so I may get the
scr from them. I was hoping to identify the manufacture and obtain a spec
sheet off the internet but so far no joy. I'll check with RF Parts for
that as well.
Gary
Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
The third hit was 
I made a mistake in my post, I stated Richardson Electronics had the
part,
it is in fact RF Parts.
The fifth and last hit gives a foreign (to USA) reference. The translated
URL is

Line number 4821 (the lines are numbered) is a URL. That URL brings
you to
a discussion about the part. This is where I got what little specs
that I
posted.
Kinda a convoluted way to find data, but sometimes you have to gig.
Not
everything is obvious.
73
Glenn
WB4UIV
At 11:47 PM 05/27/06, you wrote:
>Links would help because I tried Googling SO565, SO565J, S0565, and
S0565J
>with no
>such positive results.
>Gary
>
>Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
>
> > Google shows that Richardson Electronics has the SO565J SCR. Further
Google
> > shows that this is a 50V 65Amp non sensitive gate SCR.
> >
> > Any device that meets these specs would work. Astron possibly changed
part
> > numbers with production runs as different parts were available
and the cost
> > of these parts may have changed. I would use what ever is available
at the
> > time of manufacture that was available and fit my budget. The different
> > part values may reflect these changes with production changes.
> >
> > 73
> > Glenn
> > WB4UIV
> >
> > At 11:41 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > >Yeah, the RS and RM series are electrically the same however,
the
> schematics
> > >vary depending upon the year of print. I have the RS-50M schematic
> from 2000
> > >off the RB website. I requested a schematic from the rocket scientists
at
> > >Astron. What they sent is dated 1996 and the two have significant
> differences
> > >between them not to mention a third I found elsewhere dated 1997
> (again, some
> > >differences). I wouldn't be so concerned except the differences
are in
> > >component ID's and values. I'm hoping someone has a more recent
copy
> > >available-- perhaps two out of three (or four) will agree. The
> protective SCR
> > >is shorted in mine. I can buy the part from Astron next week but
I was
> hoping
> > >to find it via Newark, Mouser, or the like. The SCR part number
varies
> > >depending upon what schematic you look at but most call for a
> "SO565J". I have
> > >not yet found the manufacturer of this part number nor a source
outside of
> > >Astron.
> > >Gary
> > >
> > >mch wrote:
> > >
> > > > The RM-50M has been around for many years (at least 20). It's
the Rack
> > > > Mount version of the RS-50M. So, the schematics should be the
same.
> > > >
> > > > Joe M.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Morris wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:01 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > > > > >Does anyone have the schematic from an Astron RM-50M that
they
> can scan
> > > > > >and email to me? Yes, I've already called Astron. If any
member
> of this
> > > > > >list can scan and email the schematic it would be appreciated.
A
> common
> > > > > >file type like .doc or .pdf is preferred.
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the RM-50M one of the newer models, or did you mean the
RS-50M ?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it's the RS, then look at the Astron page at
> www.repeater-builder.com
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply

[Glenn Little WB4UIV]

The third hit was 

I made a mistake in my post, I stated Richardson Electronics had the part, 
it is in fact RF Parts.

The fifth and last hit gives a foreign (to USA) reference. The translated 
URL is


Line number 4821 (the lines are numbered) is a URL. That URL brings you to 
a discussion about the part. This is where I got what little specs that I 
posted.

Kinda a convoluted way to find data, but sometimes you have to gig. Not 
everything is obvious.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 11:47 PM 05/27/06, you wrote:
>Links would help because I tried Googling SO565, SO565J, S0565, and S0565J 
>with no
>such positive results.
>Gary
>
>Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
>
> > Google shows that Richardson Electronics has the SO565J SCR. Further Google
> > shows that this is a 50V 65Amp non sensitive gate SCR.
> >
> > Any device that meets these specs would work. Astron possibly changed part
> > numbers with production runs as different parts were available and the cost
> > of these parts may have changed. I would use what ever is available at the
> > time of manufacture that was available and fit my budget. The different
> > part values may reflect these changes with production changes.
> >
> > 73
> > Glenn
> > WB4UIV
> >
> > At 11:41 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > >Yeah, the RS and RM series are electrically the same however, the 
> schematics
> > >vary depending upon the year of print. I have the RS-50M schematic 
> from 2000
> > >off the RB website. I requested a schematic from the rocket scientists at
> > >Astron. What they sent is dated 1996 and the two have significant 
> differences
> > >between them not to mention a third I found elsewhere dated 1997 
> (again, some
> > >differences). I wouldn't be so concerned except the differences are in
> > >component ID's and values. I'm hoping someone has a more recent copy
> > >available-- perhaps two out of three (or four) will agree. The 
> protective SCR
> > >is shorted in mine. I can buy the part from Astron next week but I was 
> hoping
> > >to find it via Newark, Mouser, or the like. The SCR part number varies
> > >depending upon what schematic you look at but most call for a 
> "SO565J". I have
> > >not yet found the manufacturer of this part number nor a source outside of
> > >Astron.
> > >Gary
> > >
> > >mch wrote:
> > >
> > > > The RM-50M has been around for many years (at least 20). It's the Rack
> > > > Mount version of the RS-50M. So, the schematics should be the same.
> > > >
> > > > Joe M.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Morris wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:01 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > > > > >Does anyone have the schematic from an Astron RM-50M that they 
> can scan
> > > > > >and email to me? Yes, I've already called Astron. If any member 
> of this
> > > > > >list can scan and email the schematic it would be appreciated. A 
> common
> > > > > >file type like .doc or .pdf is preferred.
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the RM-50M one of the newer models, or did you mean the RS-50M ?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it's the RS, then look at the Astron page at 
> www.repeater-builder.com
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[Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors

[no6b]

My stock of RF RCA connectors (the ones used for carrying RF inside GE 
MVPs, Mastr IIs etc.) has run dry, & I haven't seen any at our local swap 
meets.  Anyone know where I can find these?  Thanks.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply

[Gary]

Links would help because I tried Googling SO565, SO565J, S0565, and S0565J with 
no
such positive results.
Gary

Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:

> Google shows that Richardson Electronics has the SO565J SCR. Further Google
> shows that this is a 50V 65Amp non sensitive gate SCR.
>
> Any device that meets these specs would work. Astron possibly changed part
> numbers with production runs as different parts were available and the cost
> of these parts may have changed. I would use what ever is available at the
> time of manufacture that was available and fit my budget. The different
> part values may reflect these changes with production changes.
>
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV
>
> At 11:41 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> >Yeah, the RS and RM series are electrically the same however, the schematics
> >vary depending upon the year of print. I have the RS-50M schematic from 2000
> >off the RB website. I requested a schematic from the rocket scientists at
> >Astron. What they sent is dated 1996 and the two have significant differences
> >between them not to mention a third I found elsewhere dated 1997 (again, some
> >differences). I wouldn't be so concerned except the differences are in
> >component ID's and values. I'm hoping someone has a more recent copy
> >available-- perhaps two out of three (or four) will agree. The protective SCR
> >is shorted in mine. I can buy the part from Astron next week but I was hoping
> >to find it via Newark, Mouser, or the like. The SCR part number varies
> >depending upon what schematic you look at but most call for a "SO565J". I 
> >have
> >not yet found the manufacturer of this part number nor a source outside of
> >Astron.
> >Gary
> >
> >mch wrote:
> >
> > > The RM-50M has been around for many years (at least 20). It's the Rack
> > > Mount version of the RS-50M. So, the schematics should be the same.
> > >
> > > Joe M.
> > >
> > > Mike Morris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At 05:01 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > > > >Does anyone have the schematic from an Astron RM-50M that they can scan
> > > > >and email to me? Yes, I've already called Astron. If any member of this
> > > > >list can scan and email the schematic it would be appreciated. A common
> > > > >file type like .doc or .pdf is preferred.
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >Gary
> > > >
> > > > Is the RM-50M one of the newer models, or did you mean the RS-50M ?
> > > >
> > > > If it's the RS, then look at the Astron page at www.repeater-builder.com
> > > >
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[Kevin King]

If you search for .00025 on the part 95 doc at the fcc site you will find
the info in black and white.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


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and RICK



  That's what I thought ... after someone stated all GMRS
 transmitters must be 0.00025% tolerance ...

  Thanks,

  Neil - WA6KLA


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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
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Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:44:10 -0400

>mobiles are .0005%
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>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>ARS KC6OVD
>GMRS KAG0378
>EIEIO 2722
>Acworth Georgia
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>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:50 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
>and RICK
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>  Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well?
>
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> Original Message 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
>and RICK
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400
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>>The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS
>service
>>ARE:
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>>1. FCC part 95 type acceptance.
>>2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025%
>>
>>To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical
>>specifications
>>for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the
>>transmitter equipment and search at this link:
>>https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?
>c
>>alledFr
>>omFrame=N
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>>The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found
>>on the
>>repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most
>>assuredly
>>someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful
>>information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may
>>GMRS
>>repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper
>>information
>>regarding the equipment he wanted to use.
>>
>>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>>ARS KC6OVD
>>GMRS KAG0378
>>EIEIO 2722
>>Acworth Georgia
>>
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47
>>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM
>>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
>and
>>RICK
>>
>>
>>> > "N6YV"  wrote:
>>> > Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS
>>> > repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
>>snip>
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>>Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or
>>certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[n . mckie]

  That's what I thought ... after someone stated all GMRS 
 transmitters must be 0.00025% tolerance ...

  Thanks, 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
and RICK
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:44:10 -0400

>mobiles are .0005%
>
>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>ARS KC6OVD
>GMRS KAG0378
>EIEIO 2722
>Acworth Georgia
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>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:50 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
>and RICK
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>  Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? 
>
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> Original Message 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
>and RICK
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400
>
>>
>>The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS
>service
>>ARE:
>>
>>1. FCC part 95 type acceptance.
>>2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025%
>>
>>To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical
>>specifications
>>for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the
>>transmitter equipment and search at this link:
>>https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?
>c
>>alledFr
>>omFrame=N
>>
>>
>>The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found
>>on the
>>repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most
>>assuredly
>>someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful
>>information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may
>>GMRS
>>repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper
>>information
>>regarding the equipment he wanted to use.
>>
>>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>>ARS KC6OVD
>>GMRS KAG0378
>>EIEIO 2722
>>Acworth Georgia
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>>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM
>>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
>and
>>RICK
>>
>>
>>> > "N6YV"  wrote:
>>> > Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS
>>> > repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
>>snip>
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>>Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or
>>certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[Kevin King]

mobiles are .0005%

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


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and RICK



  Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? 

  Neil 

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
and RICK
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400

>
>The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service
>ARE:
>
>1. FCC part 95 type acceptance.
>2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025%
>
>To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical
>specifications
>for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the
>transmitter equipment and search at this link:
>https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?c
>alledFr
>omFrame=N
>
>
>The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found
>on the
>repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most
>assuredly
>someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful
>information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may
>GMRS
>repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper
>information
>regarding the equipment he wanted to use.
>
>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>ARS KC6OVD
>GMRS KAG0378
>EIEIO 2722
>Acworth Georgia
>
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>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and
>RICK
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>> > "N6YV"  wrote:
>> > Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS
>> > repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
>snip>
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>Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or
>certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[Dick]

Jan:

You program the radios as conventional units.  The RICK will do
the repeater chores.  I have a couple of UHF GR300 rptrs.  They
each use a GM300 mobile, a RICK and a power supply.  Each radio
is programmed as a conventional and both have the rptr XMT and RCV
freqs programmed in.  That way, I can swap the radios if one of them fails.
For instance, if the XMT radio's XMTR fails, I can move it to the RCV
task and vice versa.

73,

Dick


- Original Message - 
From: "N6YV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: 26 May, 2006 08:05
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK


> Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with
> two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit. The M10 radios are single
> channel units with 16pin connectors. Do I program them as conventional
> radios and then plug them into the rick or do I program them as
> repeaters in the RSS. I'm a little confused by that.  Also, Is the
> rick ready to go out of the box? It is a new unit but had no
> documentation in the box. Thanks for any help.
> Jan




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply

[Ralph Mowery]

--- Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah, the RS and RM series are electrically the same
> however, the schematics
> vary depending upon the year of print. I have the
> RS-50M schematic from 2000
> off the RB website. I requested a schematic from the
> rocket scientists at
> Astron. What they sent is dated 1996 and the two
> have significant differences
> between them not to mention a third I found
> elsewhere dated 1997 (again, some
> differences). I wouldn't be so concerned except the
> differences are in
> component ID's and values. I'm hoping someone has a
> more recent copy
> available-- perhaps two out of three (or four) will
> agree. The protective SCR
> is shorted in mine. I can buy the part from Astron
> next week but I was hoping
> to find it via Newark, Mouser, or the like. The SCR
> part number varies
> depending upon what schematic you look at but most
> call for a "SO565J". I have
> not yet found the manufacturer of this part number
> nor a source outside of
> Astron.
> Gary
> 
>
It is not unusual for the part numbers and components
to change over the years in electronics.  Many
noncritical parts will be bought in quantities and
when they are used up the next batch may be obsolete
or a beter price may be had for another part number. 
All that is needed for the scr is for it to be rated
at the needed voltage and current and for the gate to
trigger about the same.  There are probably 25 to 50
devices that will make that rating, the same with many
of the parts in the Astron.



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[n . mckie]

  Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? 

  Neil 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10
and RICK
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400

>
>The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service
>ARE:
>
>1. FCC part 95 type acceptance.
>2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025%
>
>To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical
>specifications
>for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the
>transmitter equipment and search at this link:
>https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?c
>alledFr
>omFrame=N
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>The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found
>on the
>repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most
>assuredly
>someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful
>information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may
>GMRS
>repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper
>information
>regarding the equipment he wanted to use.
>
>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>ARS KC6OVD
>GMRS KAG0378
>EIEIO 2722
>Acworth Georgia
>
>
>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47
>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and
>RICK
>
>
>> > "N6YV"  wrote:
>> > Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS
>> > repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
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>Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or
>certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[Ronny Julian]

1190 total radios with Part 95 listing.  Neat listing.  I asked for this 
info 4 times on the GMRS list before and no one could or would mention 
this.  Thanks!


Kevin King wrote:

>The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE:
>
>1. FCC part 95 type acceptance.
>2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025%
>
>To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications
>for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the
>transmitter equipment and search at this link:
>https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?calledFr
>omFrame=N
>
>
>The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the
>repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly
>someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful
>information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS
>repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information
>regarding the equipment he wanted to use.
>
>Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
>ARS KC6OVD
>GMRS KAG0378
>EIEIO 2722
>Acworth Georgia
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47
>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and
>RICK
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>>>"N6YV"  wrote:
>>>Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS
>>>repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
>>>  
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>Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply

[Glenn Little WB4UIV]

Google shows that Richardson Electronics has the SO565J SCR. Further Google 
shows that this is a 50V 65Amp non sensitive gate SCR.

Any device that meets these specs would work. Astron possibly changed part 
numbers with production runs as different parts were available and the cost 
of these parts may have changed. I would use what ever is available at the 
time of manufacture that was available and fit my budget. The different 
part values may reflect these changes with production changes.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 11:41 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
>Yeah, the RS and RM series are electrically the same however, the schematics
>vary depending upon the year of print. I have the RS-50M schematic from 2000
>off the RB website. I requested a schematic from the rocket scientists at
>Astron. What they sent is dated 1996 and the two have significant differences
>between them not to mention a third I found elsewhere dated 1997 (again, some
>differences). I wouldn't be so concerned except the differences are in
>component ID's and values. I'm hoping someone has a more recent copy
>available-- perhaps two out of three (or four) will agree. The protective SCR
>is shorted in mine. I can buy the part from Astron next week but I was hoping
>to find it via Newark, Mouser, or the like. The SCR part number varies
>depending upon what schematic you look at but most call for a "SO565J". I have
>not yet found the manufacturer of this part number nor a source outside of
>Astron.
>Gary
>
>mch wrote:
>
> > The RM-50M has been around for many years (at least 20). It's the Rack
> > Mount version of the RS-50M. So, the schematics should be the same.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Mike Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > At 05:01 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > > >Does anyone have the schematic from an Astron RM-50M that they can scan
> > > >and email to me? Yes, I've already called Astron. If any member of this
> > > >list can scan and email the schematic it would be appreciated. A common
> > > >file type like .doc or .pdf is preferred.
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Gary
> > >
> > > Is the RM-50M one of the newer models, or did you mean the RS-50M ?
> > >
> > > If it's the RS, then look at the Astron page at www.repeater-builder.com
> > >
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

[Kevin King]

The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE:

1. FCC part 95 type acceptance.
2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025%

To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications
for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the
transmitter equipment and search at this link:
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?calledFr
omFrame=N


The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the
repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly
someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful
information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS
repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information
regarding the equipment he wanted to use.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and
RICK


> > "N6YV"  wrote:
> > Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS
> > repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
snip>


Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or
certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS.









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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply

[Bob M.]

My RS35M supply schematic says it's an MCR225 SCR. I
suspect that any SCR capable of dealing with the
current rating of the supply will work just fine.

My schematic was dated Jan 2000 as well, and it came
with a new supply that I bought around 2002.

I suspect that all the component differences are due
to product improvement (aka bug fixes in the original
design). In this regard, they seem to have unique
schematics for each model year (almost like Motorola).

RM-series is the rack mount version of the RS-series.
Add the letter "M" and you have meters. Change the
first letter from R to V and you have one with front
panel adjustment pots (V=variable). SS-series are
switching power supplies. I don't recall if they come
in rack-mount versions.

Bob M.
==
--- Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah, the RS and RM series are electrically the same
> however, the schematics
> vary depending upon the year of print. I have the
> RS-50M schematic from 2000
> off the RB website. I requested a schematic from the
> rocket scientists at
> Astron. What they sent is dated 1996 and the two
> have significant differences
> between them not to mention a third I found
> elsewhere dated 1997 (again, some
> differences). I wouldn't be so concerned except the
> differences are in
> component ID's and values. I'm hoping someone has a
> more recent copy
> available-- perhaps two out of three (or four) will
> agree. The protective SCR
> is shorted in mine. I can buy the part from Astron
> next week but I was hoping
> to find it via Newark, Mouser, or the like. The SCR
> part number varies
> depending upon what schematic you look at but most
> call for a "SO565J". I have
> not yet found the manufacturer of this part number
> nor a source outside of
> Astron.
> Gary
> 
> mch wrote:
> 
> > The RM-50M has been around for many years (at
> least 20). It's the Rack
> > Mount version of the RS-50M. So, the schematics
> should be the same.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Mike Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > At 05:01 PM 05/26/06, you wrote:
> > > >Does anyone have the schematic from an Astron
> RM-50M that they can scan
> > > >and email to me? Yes, I've already called
> Astron. If any member of this
> > > >list can scan and email the schematic it would
> be appreciated. A common
> > > >file type like .doc or .pdf is preferred.
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Gary
> > >
> > > Is the RM-50M one of the newer models, or did
> you mean the RS-50M ?
> > >
> > > If it's the RS, then look at the Astron page at
> www.repeater-builder.com
> > >
> > > Mike

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[Repeater-Builder] Using Mitrek Channel Element to Miniaturize Repeater Receiver

[ve3iny]

I am currently running a 6 meter repeater using a Midland 70-055C 
transceiver as a receiver.

Anyone familiar with this transceiver will know that the receiver 
requires a LO signal (approx 62 mhz) from the main VCO.  The main VCO 
is located on the transmitter board (which is fairly large board in 
comparison to the receiver board).  

I would like to eliminate the neccesity of have to use the transmitter 
board altogether,  and need to come up with a simple crystal oscillator 
circuit to generate the 62 mhz LO.

It just so happens that a Motorola Mitrek VHF receive channel element 
will work within the 62 mhz range.  So I have decided simply to install 
my LO crystal inside the element, and connect the output of the element 
directly to the Midland receiver board (eliminating the need for the 
transmitter board).

But I can't seem to make the Mitrek channel element to work "stand-
alone".  I've gounded Pin 1,  and applied 9 volts to Pin 3,  and I've 
brought Pin 4 low (ground)to enable the element.  But with a scope 
connected to Pin 2,  I see no output ?

Can anyone shed light onto this for me ?  Do I need to add a tank 
circuit at Pin 2 ?  Or do I have the pin-out all wrong ?  Is there some 
secret I'm missing ?

I've tried multiple elements (just in case I had a defective one) to no 
avail.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK

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> > "N6YV"  wrote:
> > Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS 
> > repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit
snip>


Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or 
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