[Repeater-Builder] problem in duplexer

2006-12-18 Thread vikas gupta
hi,
  i have a problem in construction  of duplexer having 4.1 mhz separation , 
tx-158.8 MHz  rx-162.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Watts.
  please guide me how i construct this duplexer.
  vikas

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[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer problems

2006-12-18 Thread Billy Mac
I have a Wacom Duplexer (70 cm) and cannot tune the notches on them, I
think the trimmer cap. are bad from a lighting hit so can some one
tell the capacltance range of the trimmer cap. (1-10pf or 1-14pf or
2-16pf)

Thanks

Bill   KC5NQ



[Repeater-Builder] construction of duplexer

2006-12-18 Thread vikas gupta
hello friends,
  please guide me how i construct a duplexer.
  vikas 

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[Repeater-Builder] Spectra PL tone encode disable?

2006-12-18 Thread Greg Z
Our group is intending to use spectra's as link txmitters (70cm)
 for our remote rx sites. Is there a way to disable the tx pl tone
during link tx CW id period? Due to the rf environment at the main site 
it is  a must to run tone. Any help?
TNX
 Greg 
WG8Z




[Repeater-Builder] Re: FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today

2006-12-18 Thread G. Beat
I see know Rules and Order (in fact it has not been released) --- it may come 
next week --
only thing posted on FCC web site was a Press Release about an RO being 
written !!

Appears to be a 'last minute' decision before congressional change in 2007.

FCC commissioners will likely have to testify -- why they are so supportive of 
BPL -- 
when power companies take over 8 days to restore power in the Midwest 2 weeks 
ago -- and the
economic argument is non-existent.

Also, they are still deadlocked after 5 weeks on the ATT and Bell South merger.

w9gb

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today

2006-12-18 Thread Mike Iszak
Well, I guess we can all lace up our skates because it would seem that
Hell has, in fact, frozen over.  All I can say is that this is a long
time coming, and well overdue.

On 12/16/06, Dave Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm going to be near AES Milwaukee tomarrow... so I'll stop in and get da
 books.  I already have code tapes and code software I've been trying to
 learn code for a while, I just have a brick for a brain for learning it and
 on top of that, something always comes up to distract me from daily practice
 - I can never get a set schedual for free time a few weeks to learn it...
 something always comes up to change everything and screw me up.

 The dropping of the code requirement shouldn't be the end of the code for
 the people who were trying to learn. I say - keep going. Its a challenge
 almost like learning a new language. I'll still continue to try and ONE OF
 THESE DAYS ... I'll make my first cw contact. I just gotta get a few QSLs on
 my wall for CW comms to add to the FM DX, SSB and even AM work I've done.

 Dave / N9NLU



 On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Me too. I just ordered the general study guide.
 
  Richard, N7TGB
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ups.com]*On Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt
  *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 10:25 PM
  *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping
  code requirement today
 
   Ahhh, ok.  Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the
  general and extra class written element books.
 
  Thanks
 
  Dave  /  N9NLU
  www.kmcg.org
  ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot
  - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade)
 
 
 
 
  On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is
   published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined
 yet.
  
   Richard, N7TGB
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Repeater-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt
   *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM
   *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO
   dropping code requirement today
  
Question about this order    is it effective imidiately that the
   code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o
   code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ?  OR is there an effective
 on 
   after date?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 




[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer notch adjust trimmer capacitor info.

2006-12-18 Thread Billy Mac
I  am working on a 70cm Duplexer (Wacom) an I think the notchtrimmer
cap. are bad from a lighting hit , so want is the capacitance range of
the cap. ( 1-10pf  or  1-14pf or  2-16pf )

Thanks  for the help!

Bill  KC5NQ





Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4W EM Remote

2006-12-18 Thread Gareth Bennett
Hi Bill, You may want to have a look at the Omnitronics product range, the 
smart bridges make this sort of job a whole lot easier when you are dealing 
with 6 wire systems and make perfect building blocks for E+M over DMR.

http://www.omnitronics.com.au

Cheers
_

Gareth Bennett
 
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are not the intended recipient,
please return it to the sender and destroy any copies.
Thank you.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Powell 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:22 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 4W EM Remote


  I have an opportunity to establish remote control for several of our
  ham repeaters that are co-locates with our county microwave system. 
  There are plenty of spare $W EM channels available with the switch
  from an analog to a digital system.
  My objective is to remove a little RF from our RACES room and
  consolodate the current mess into something simple.
  Ideally, I can hack together a simple pushbutton operated panel: push
  to select a particular repeater. Think of the old office phones.
  Anyone out there doing this?
  Suggestions?
  Traps?

  Thanks in advance,
  Bill - WB1GOT



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra PL tone encode disable?

2006-12-18 Thread Bob M.
I don't recall any input on the accessory jack for
that function. Sometimes you can program a second mode
without PL and change to that, but I don't think the
radio will let you change modes while it's
transmitting, nor is there an input for that function
either.

Some MaxTracs have this feature, but it's not
implemented cleanly. When the PL is disabled, it
throws quite a glitch out to the VCO.

The most reliable method is to inject your own PL into
the audio stream, rather than rely on the radio to do
it. Of course, this is a lot more difficult on a
Spectra than it is on something like a MaxTrac or a
crystal-controlled (non-synthesized) radio. Spectras
are just less versatile in this area. You know how it
is: if commercial users don't need it, Motorola makes
no provisions for it in their equipment.

Bob M.
==
--- Greg Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our group is intending to use spectra's as link
 txmitters (70cm)
  for our remote rx sites. Is there a way to disable
 the tx pl tone
 during link tx CW id period? Due to the rf
 environment at the main site 
 it is  a must to run tone. Any help?
 TNX
  Greg 
 WG8Z

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4W EM Remote

2006-12-18 Thread Bill Powell
Mike,

I have few objectives:
1) Remove a lot of RF from the RACES room,
2) Release two antennas for other purposes,
3) Consolodate operations: one mocrophone instead of many,
4) Allow simple, non-RF interconnection between repeaters.
Eventually, remote control could extend to as many as 8 repeaters and
2 remote base stations.  I'm also looking at the possibility of
remoting packet as well.

Bill - WB1GOT



I'll maintain backup access via radios but they'll be shared with
other use and no longer dedicated to repeater operations.


3) --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 08:22 PM 12/17/06, you wrote:
 I have an opportunity to establish remote control for several of our
 ham repeaters that are co-locates with our county microwave system.
 There are plenty of spare $W EM channels available with the switch
 from an analog to a digital system.
 My objective is to remove a little RF from our RACES room and
 consolodate the current mess into something simple.
 Ideally, I can hack together a simple pushbutton operated panel: push
 to select a particular repeater.  Think of the old office phones.
 Anyone out there doing this?
 Suggestions?
 Traps?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Bill - WB1GOT
 
 I spent five years doing installation, repair, adds, moves
 and changes on those old 1A2 phone systems.  In fact I
 have two of the 30-button (29 lines plus hold) brand new
 in the box plus a half dozen card shelves and power
 supplies that were going into the dumpster in the
 next garage cleanout.
 
 BTW the old AUTOVON phone system was a 4w system.
 
 So what is the end result that you are trying to accomplish?
 
 Mike WA6ILQ





[Repeater-Builder] Re: FYI: FCc officially issues RO dropping code requirement today

2006-12-18 Thread Doug Dickinson
You know, there is no requirement to kil code from the airways. Some people are 
talking like this is the end of things. NOTHING says there won't be any more 
code, it is just relegated to the other obsolete and dusty vestages of the 
amateur radio world. I know there are a lot of folks that enjoy code operation. 
To them, I say - have a great time with it! It is yours to use and enjoy. There 
are dozens of other operating modes that are in greater use and are more 
relevant to today's amateur radio licensee. Why saddle people with learning an 
obsolete operating mechanism? The FCC acted properly this time. The dooms day 
sayers are in full foce - but without any facts to back them up. 
   
  It's time to move the art and science forward - not backward.
   
  IMHO
  Doug
  KC0SDQ
   


Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today

2006-12-18 Thread Jim B.
Gerald Pelnar wrote:
 I, for one, was sorely disappointed with how easy is was to pass the present 
 extra class test.

/mini-rant
I agree that the higher level tests are too easy. I feel the same way 
about driver license tests, both written and on-the-road...
/mini-rant off

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2006-12-18 Thread Jim B.
James wrote:
 h, not that I dis-like code or anything  but while we are thinking of 
 the end of an era, lets think about the new one!  How about a narrow banding 
 requirement for VHF/UHF FM!!! 
 
 just sticking my 2c in ;)
 
 James WJ1D

Nah-if hams feel the need to narrowband, it will just happen. First 
there needs to be more equipment available that will do it, with 
switching on a per-memory channel basis as well. (Unlike my F6...)
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4W EM Remote

2006-12-18 Thread Jim B.
Bill Powell wrote:
 I have an opportunity to establish remote control for several of our
 ham repeaters that are co-locates with our county microwave system. 
 There are plenty of spare $W EM channels available with the switch
 from an analog to a digital system.
 My objective is to remove a little RF from our RACES room and
 consolodate the current mess into something simple.
 Ideally, I can hack together a simple pushbutton operated panel: push
 to select a particular repeater.  Think of the old office phones.
 Anyone out there doing this?
 Suggestions?
 Traps?

Well, you will want to use the EM part for PTT and you can also use the 
reverse path for a COR-based activity indication. Just remember it's all 
600 ohm audio, keep levels down so that the max level that can possibly 
be generated is roughly under 0 dBm, but above -20. And the EM is 
referenced to MINUS 48 volts, so watch your grounds and BE CAREFUL! 
It'll knock ya on yer butt if yer not.

You won't really need to switch between rptrs. Bring all the audios in 
to a mixer, with maybe volume controls for each, or try to invent some 
sort of select/unselect arrangement like is done with dispatch consoles. 
Then just have a row of pushbuttons for each PTT, mic audio can be 
connected to all through it's PTT switch (actually a relay would be more 
reliable). You can even get ingenious and 'patch' repeaters together 
on-the-fly!

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Not read: [Repeater-Builder] Stuck cores

2006-12-18 Thread Peter Sturt
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [Motorola-Metrum-Motrac-Motran-Mocom] Kellogg's FCC Sign Pact

2006-12-18 Thread Richard
I admit I missed it, so I need new finals...
Richard, N7TGB


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laryn Lohman
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:13 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [Motorola-Metrum-Motrac-Motran-Mocom]
Kellogg's  FCC Sign Pact


  Anyone that misses the humor here needs new finals...

  Laryn K8TVZ

  
Washington D.C.-
It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal
Communications Commission have signed a pact to
issue Amateur Radio Licenses on specially marked
boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move
the FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but
allow all individuals to receive an amateur radio license
without having to demonstrate any skills with the exception
of being able to use a pair of scissors to cut out their
operating permit from the breakfast cereal box.
   
Kellogg's spokesperson commented that they were proud
to have been selected by the government to be the issuer
of licenses for amateur radio in the US and hope to soon
make an agreement with other cereal loving countries.
They also expect that will be issuing certificates of
achievement for DXCF for confirmed contacts with 100 corn
flakers.
   
  



  


[Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply rating, how many amps does it produce

2006-12-18 Thread n9lv
Is there a way to find out how many amps a power supply is from a 
motorola micor system.  For instance a power supply from a 100 watt 
system?  A way to look up the model numbers.  I am trying to develope a 
power supply capable of giving at least 40 amps continous duty that is 
rack mountable.  Currently I have an Astron 70 amp power supply, but 
would like to remove that amp and replace it with something that is 
rack mountable, but don't want to incur the cost of buying a new one if 
the two that I have will work.

Mathew




[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4W EM Remote

2006-12-18 Thread Bill Powell
Thanks Jim!

You managed to re-fire an old, unused neuron: Dispatch Console!

I think there may be one, or parts of an old one in storage somewhere.
If I rember correctly, they will interface to nearly anything thanks
to a diode and jumper matrix and a mess of relays.  Probably be the
only thing left working after an EMP event!  :-)

Then there's always the prospects of Frankensteining an older
CallDirector(tm) set.

It appears that the county will also be swapping out fairly new Moto
remote bases with new units that can simulcast so there may be a
remote simplex base or to going into the mix too.

Now all I need to come up with is a fail-safe interface for use at the
repeater sites.  Want to keep it simple and NOT have to get to the
innards of the controlers.  Just want to break and tap the xmitter PTT
and audio lines and be able to route them down and back up the pipe
on command (my remote PTT).  Sounds like another job for a good old relay!

After 35 years with ATT, you would have thought I would have
remembered my roots all by myself.

Thanks!
Bill - WB1GOT


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bill Powell wrote:
  I have an opportunity to establish remote control for several of our
  ham repeaters that are co-locates with our county microwave system. 
  There are plenty of spare $W EM channels available with the switch
  from an analog to a digital system.
  My objective is to remove a little RF from our RACES room and
  consolodate the current mess into something simple.
  Ideally, I can hack together a simple pushbutton operated panel: push
  to select a particular repeater.  Think of the old office phones.
  Anyone out there doing this?
  Suggestions?
  Traps?
 
 Well, you will want to use the EM part for PTT and you can also use
the 
 reverse path for a COR-based activity indication. Just remember it's
all 
 600 ohm audio, keep levels down so that the max level that can possibly 
 be generated is roughly under 0 dBm, but above -20. And the EM is 
 referenced to MINUS 48 volts, so watch your grounds and BE CAREFUL! 
 It'll knock ya on yer butt if yer not.
 
 You won't really need to switch between rptrs. Bring all the
audios in 
 to a mixer, with maybe volume controls for each, or try to invent some 
 sort of select/unselect arrangement like is done with dispatch
consoles. 
 Then just have a row of pushbuttons for each PTT, mic audio can be 
 connected to all through it's PTT switch (actually a relay would be
more 
 reliable). You can even get ingenious and 'patch' repeaters together 
 on-the-fly!
 
 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL





[Repeater-Builder] BridgeCom CS-540 Opinions Wanted

2006-12-18 Thread radnj07012
With all this talk about the BridgeCom repeater that is for sale, I
decided to have a look at their site and am thinking about using their
product for an upcoming multi site repeater project in the business
band.  Has anyone used their CS-540?
Any opinions Good Bad Indifferent?

I'd like to hear about it.

Overall the repeater seems to be a pretty good bargain. especially
with a built in controller.

You can contact me directly if you would rather keep it off list.

Also dose anyone know where I could download a copy of their
programming software, I'd like to poke around it a bit before I buy a
test repeater.

Thanks in advance

Vince




[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Stuff for sale / Wanted to Trade

2006-12-18 Thread Don Wisdom
Hi All,
This is the last time ill post this before they goto fleabay.   I've had
some contact with a few of you but no one has committed.
I have the following:
1) 1 Mastr II Station 403-430mhz 100watt continuous duty PA with GETC shelf
attached  wired for a Mastr III Power supply.   (the GETC shelf is easy to
remove I have a email from the M/A Com TAC detailing how to remove it)

2) 2 Mastr II Stations 403-430mhz 100watt continuous duty PA with stock
cards.

3) 1 Mastr III Power supply would prefer to sell with item #1 but if
purchaser if item #1 does not want it I will sell it to anyone who wants it.

I would like to get $250 / station and $100 for the supply. I am open to
reasonable offers on any of the above items.


However  I am looking for the following items:
1)  1 Mastr II VHF Continuous duty 110 watt station (repeater)
2)  1 or 2 Mastr II UHF Continuous duty 100 watt UHF 450-470 stations.

If your interested in a trade email me off list at
donw(at)engineeringinc.com

Thanks
--Don Wisdom
KD7WKF