Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Ken Arck]

At 10:12 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote:

Anybody aboard that can help Todd Revell, N0VW, identify which UHF 
version he has?


<--I already told him where to look for numbers (and made him an 
offer contingent on those)


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[cruising7388]

 
Anybody aboard that can help Todd Revell, N0VW, identify which UHF version  
he has?
 
His email address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 
K7IJ
 
In a message dated 3/12/2007 5:49:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mike Morris WA6ILQ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"None of the MSF5Ks would  do that entire range." [403-475]

"I should get my book back from the  guy I loaned it to but as far as I
remember the ranges are 406-420,  450-470, 470-490 or 490-512. Only the
second range will do amateur  UHF..."

--

The  front of the Motorola manuals says "403-475 HHz" so it's easy to
see why he  listed it that way.

The actual ranges are 403-435 MHz and 435-475MHz.  The low range would
be appropriate for links and repeaters in the low end  of the ham band.

Obviously, the high range unit covers the normal 440  ham repeater range
directly [without  modifications]d






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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for Info on EF Johnson LR-MT-22 220-222 MHz Radios

[Bill Powell]

Nope - Moto makes FM mobiles and handhelds.
Have an HT1250-LS+ (H25MDF4) I'm tryinig to move up into the ham
bands.  Is a narrow band FM unit but CPS says the upper band limit is
216 and nobody knows how to move it up - or isn't saying how. . .

Bill - WB1GOT

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 02:02 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:
> >I'm Looking for Information on a EF Johnson Viking LR-MT-22   220 - 
> >222 MHz Mobile .
> >I'm trying to see if there is a Way to Move the Radio up to the 1.25 
> >meter Ham Band .
> >Any Info will Hel . Pleas Contact me if you have any Information on 
> >this Model Radio .
> >Thanks for Looking .
> >
> >Steve. KB3FSR
> 
> Weren't the 220 radios all companded SSB ?
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz repeater isolator

[Eric Lemmon]

Tom,

Check out Telewave's products.  I recently put up a Hamtronics repeater on
220, and I installed a Telewave T-2230 single isolator on the transmitter
primarily to protect the 18 watt PA transistor.  The very basic Hamtronics
PA has no protection whatsoever from high SWR or load mismatches, and it
also has no power control circuitry; its power output varies directly with
the supply voltage, and it is easy to toast the PA transistor.  Visit
Telewave here:



Although an isolator is good insurance against IM, it also serves to protect
fragile PA transistors from an early demise.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:09 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 MHz repeater isolator

Anyone know a source for one please?

73s
NB2A
Tom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Jay Urish]

I suppose I could.. I would have to take down my LMRS machine though.

Maybe one day.

Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> 
> 
> Want to do a photo article for repeater-builder?
> 
> At 04:57 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:
>  >Yup.. The rf transistors are really broadbanded.. All I did was re-tune.
>  >
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>  > >
>  > > I retuned the PA on mine from 406-420 to 440-460 by adjusting the
>  > > stripline.. took it from 25w out on 444.850 to 110 no sweat.
>  > >
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>  > > Can you do that without increasing junk products?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Old Sinclair Duplexer

[rb_n3dab]

Jerry,

In case you didn't get my previous reply.  Yes please copy and send to address 
shown on "www.qrz.com" for my call.   Thanks for your help.

Doug   N3DAB
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
Doug- I beleive I have the complete manual/tuneup etc., let me know if you 
want, I will copy and send to you 

Jerry VE3 EXT

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz isolator

[Jeff DePolo]

I've got 220 isolators if anyone is interested, relatively cheap (figure 20%
of what they would typically go for as a ballpark).  Email direct. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
> Overstreet
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:07 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz isolator
> 
> Telewave in San Jose Ca.
>  
> 1-800-331-3396
>  
> Ask for Len Pringle,  KH8A
>  
> Len knows what he is talking about and Telewave makes very 
> good isolators as well as everything else you might need.
>  
>  
>  
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Tom   
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:57 PM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz isolator
> 
> 
>   Anyne know a source for a one for a repeater please?
>   
>   73s
>   NB2A
>   Tom
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz isolator

[Scott Overstreet]

Telewave in San Jose Ca.

1-800-331-3396

Ask for Len Pringle,  KH8A

Len knows what he is talking about and Telewave makes very good isolators as 
well as everything else you might need.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:57 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz isolator


  Anyne know a source for a one for a repeater please?

  73s
  NB2A
  Tom



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Ken Arck]

At 05:51 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote:

> >Yup.. The rf transistors are really broadbanded..

<---U, isn't that a "duh"? :-)

Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Want to do a photo article for repeater-builder?

At 04:57 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:
>Yup.. The rf transistors are really broadbanded.. All I did was re-tune.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:02:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I retuned the PA on mine from 406-420 to 440-460 by adjusting the
> > stripline.. took it from 25w out on 444.850 to 110 no sweat.
> >
> >
> > Can you do that without increasing junk products?
> >
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[nj902]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"None of the MSF5Ks would do that entire range." [403-475]

"I should get my book back from the guy I loaned it to but as far as I
remember the ranges are 406-420, 450-470, 470-490 or 490-512. Only the
second range will do amateur UHF..."

---

The front of the Motorola manuals says "403-475 HHz" so it's easy to
see why he listed it that way.

The actual ranges are 403-435 MHz and 435-475MHz.  The low range would
be appropriate for links and repeaters in the low end of the ham band.
 
Obviously, the high range unit covers the normal 440 ham repeater range
directly [without modifications].
 

[Repeater-Builder] Vertex VX5000 repeater user group

[Tom]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VertexVX5000/

[Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz repeater isolator

[Tom]

Anyone know a source for one please?

73s
NB2A
Tom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Jay Urish]

Yup.. The rf transistors are really broadbanded.. All I did was re-tune.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> 
> In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:02:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> I retuned the PA on mine from 406-420 to 440-460 by adjusting the
> stripline.. took it from 25w out on 444.850 to 110 no sweat.
> 
>  
> Can you do that without increasing junk products? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Where to pickup fixed-audio on an MCS2000?

[Mike Lyon]

Anyone have any idea where I can pickup fixed audio after the squelch
output but before it makes it to the speaker amplifier?

Thanks,
Mike

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Info on EF Johnson LR-MT-22 220-222 MHz Ra...

[pikeco44]

This radio is doing LTR Trunking FM Right now .
 
Steve. KB3FSR
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[cruising7388]

 
In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:02:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  retuned the PA on mine from 406-420 to 440-460 by adjusting the  
stripline.. took it from 25w out on 444.850 to 110 no  sweat.





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Jay Urish]

I retuned the PA on mine from 406-420 to 440-460 by adjusting the 
stripline.. took it from 25w out on 444.850 to 110 no sweat.

I just took another 450-470 PA and compared striplines and made them match.

Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> 
> 
> At 01:50 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:
> 
>> Ran across this ad on Qth.com:
>>
>> RADIOVHF - Motorola MSF 5000 UHF Repeater  
>> 
>> Motorola MSF 5000 Digital Capable and Analog Plus Stations UHF
>> Repeater. Complete repeater system in cabinet including duplexer.
>> I believe the unit is a 100 watt repeater with a TX range of
>> 403-475 MHz. I purchased the repeater in hopes of putting it on
>> the air,but haven't got around to it. It comes with everything you
>> see in the pics including the manual. If you email me I can send
>> more pics if needed. I would like to get $600.00 for the repeater
>> and it will have to be picked up due to it's weight. I live in the
>> Springfield Mo. area. Thanks for looking. N0VW
>> Listing #584878 - Submitted on 03/10/07 by Callsign N0VW
>> , Modified on 03/11/07
>> Click Here to Email
>>  -- Click Here to
>> View Picture  
> 
> None of the MSF5Ks would do that entire range.
> I should get my book back from the guy I loaned it to but as far
> as I remember the ranges are 406-420, 450-470, 470-490 or 490-512.
> Only the second range will do amateur UHF
> 
> Once I get my MSF book back I should dig up the PA deck numbers
> (they are the most easily found) and frequency ranges and add a table
> to the MSF index page at repeater-builder.
> 
> Mike WA6ILQ
> 

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Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5

[Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz isolator

[Tom]

Anyne know a source for a one for a repeater please?

73s
NB2A
Tom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[cruising7388]

 
I know zip about the MSFs but I'm inclined to agree with you. I wouldn't  
think that you could broadband an exciter that much and still keep it within  
repeater commercial specs for spurs. If you could, why would any OEM bother 
with  
sub-band versions? 
 
In a message dated 3/12/2007 2:33:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
At 01:50 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:

Ran across this ad  on Qth.com:

RADIOVHF -  Motorola MSF 5000 UHF Repeater




 (http://swap.qth.com/view_ad.php?counter=584878) 

Motorola MSF 5000 Digital Capable and Analog  Plus Stations UHF Repeater. 
Complete repeater system in cabinet including  duplexer. I believe the unit is 
a 
100 watt repeater with a TX range of  403-475 MHz. I purchased the repeater in 
hopes of putting it on the  air,but haven't got around to it. It comes with 
everything you see in the  pics including the manual. If you email me I can 
send more pics if needed.  I would like to get $600.00 for the repeater and it 
will have to be picked  up due to it's weight. I live in the Springfield Mo. 
area. Thanks for  looking. N0VW 

Listing #584878 - Submitted on 03/10/07 by  Callsign _N0VW_ 
(http://www.qth.com/callsign.php?cs=N0VW) , Modified on  03/11/07 

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None of the MSF5Ks would  do that entire range.
I should get my book back from the guy I loaned it to  but as far 
as I remember the ranges are 406-420, 450-470, 470-490 or  490-512.
Only the second range will do amateur UHF

Once I get my MSF  book back I should dig up the PA deck numbers 
(they are the most easily  found) and frequency ranges and add a table 
to the MSF index page at  repeater-builder.

Mike WA6ILQ
  


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor receiver below 440?

[N9WYS]

Sorry - this was supposed to go direct to someone else...  But I will accept
any replies on-list.

I have a Micor RX that is half deaf...  Sensitivity about .6 or .7 µv at
449.550.  I've re-tuned this thing until I'm blue in the face.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of N9WYS

Terry,

Do you think this mod might improve the RX sensitivity on the receiver unit
in Frankfort?  I know I'm not trying to receive that low, but maybe this
might be what the doctor ordered to improve the RX sensitivity figure.  ???

If not, I have another RX unit at the house we could try... but then I'd
need to fix the Frankfort one anyway, if I get the opportunity to install a
RX in Crete at Jay's tower...

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Chris Huber
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor receiver below 440?

I have 12 Micor receivers in the 438 - 439 with the only mod being a 6 - 
9 pf cap add to L101 on the solder side of the board. This brought the 
drive up on the channel element. The preselector went down with no problem.

Chris N6icw

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for Info on EF Johnson LR-MT-22 220-222 MHz Radios

[skipp025]

Yes, but there are/were 3 different formats that I know of. The SEA 
format, the Midland "Linear Systems" format and a VHF ACSB format... 
I forget the brand name. 
cheers
skipp 

> Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Weren't the 220 radios all companded SSB ?


>
> At 02:02 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:
> >I'm Looking for Information on a EF Johnson Viking LR-MT-22   220 - 
> >222 MHz Mobile .
> >I'm trying to see if there is a Way to Move the Radio up to the 1.25 
> >meter Ham Band .
> >Any Info will Hel . Pleas Contact me if you have any Information on 
> >this Model Radio .
> >Thanks for Looking .
> >
> >Steve. KB3FSR

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Info on EF Johnson LR-MT-22 220-222 MHz Radios

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 02:02 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:
>I'm Looking for Information on a EF Johnson Viking LR-MT-22   220 - 
>222 MHz Mobile .
>I'm trying to see if there is a Way to Move the Radio up to the 1.25 
>meter Ham Band .
>Any Info will Hel . Pleas Contact me if you have any Information on 
>this Model Radio .
>Thanks for Looking .
>
>Steve. KB3FSR

Weren't the 220 radios all companded SSB ?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 01:50 PM 03/12/07, you wrote:

Ran across this ad on Qth.com:
RADIOVHF - Motorola MSF 5000 UHF 
Repeater
Motorola MSF 5000 Digital Capable and Analog Plus Stations UHF 
Repeater. Complete repeater system in cabinet including duplexer. I 
believe the unit is a 100 watt repeater with a TX range of 403-475 
MHz. I purchased the repeater in hopes of putting it on the air,but 
haven't got around to it. It comes with everything you see in the 
pics including the manual. If you email me I can send more pics if 
needed. I would like to get $600.00 for the repeater and it will 
have to be picked up due to it's weight. I live in the Springfield 
Mo. area. Thanks for looking. N0VW
Listing #584878 - Submitted on 03/10/07 by Callsign 
N0VW, Modified on 03/11/07
Click Here to Email 
-- Click Here to View Picture


None of the MSF5Ks would do that entire range.
I should get my book back from the guy I loaned it to but as far
as I remember the ranges are 406-420, 450-470, 470-490 or 490-512.
Only the second range will do amateur UHF

Once I get my MSF book back I should dig up the PA deck numbers
(they are the most easily found) and frequency ranges and add a table
to the MSF index page at repeater-builder.

Mike WA6ILQ

[Repeater-Builder] Looking for Info on EF Johnson LR-MT-22 220-222 MHz Radios

[pikeco44]

I'm Looking for Information on a EF Johnson Viking LR-MT-22   220 - 222 MHz 
Mobile .
I'm trying to see if there is a Way to Move the Radio up to the 1.25 meter 
Ham Band .
Any Info will Hel . Pleas Contact me if you have any Information on this 
Model Radio .
Thanks for Looking .
 
Steve. KB3FSR
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor receiver below 440?

[N9WYS]

Terry,

Do you think this mod might improve the RX sensitivity on the receiver unit
in Frankfort?  I know I'm not trying to receive that low, but maybe this
might be what the doctor ordered to improve the RX sensitivity figure.  ???

If not, I have another RX unit at the house we could try... but then I'd
need to fix the Frankfort one anyway, if I get the opportunity to install a
RX in Crete at Jay's tower...

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Chris Huber
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor receiver below 440?

I have 12 Micor receivers in the 438 - 439 with the only mod being a 6 - 
9 pf cap add to L101 on the solder side of the board. This brought the 
drive up on the channel element. The preselector went down with no problem.

Chris N6icw




 
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[Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola Repeater

[cruising7388]

 
Ran across this ad on Qth.com:

RADIOVHF -  Motorola MSF 5000 UHF Repeater   
(http://swap.qth.com/view_ad.php?counter=584878)   
Motorola MSF 5000 Digital Capable and Analog Plus  Stations UHF Repeater. 
Complete repeater system in cabinet including duplexer.  I believe the unit is 
a 
100 watt repeater with a TX range of 403-475 MHz. I  purchased the repeater in 
hopes of putting it on the air,but haven't got  around to it. It comes with 
everything you see in the pics including the  manual. If you email me I can 
send more pics if needed. I would like to get  $600.00 for the repeater and it 
will have to be picked up due to it's weight.  I live in the Springfield Mo. 
area. Thanks for looking. N0VW  
Listing #584878 - Submitted on 03/10/07 by  Callsign _N0VW_ 
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Motorola MSF 5000 Digital Capable and Analog Plus  Stations UHF Repeater. 
Complete repeater system in cabinet including duplexer. I  believe the unit is 
a 
100 watt repeater with a TX range of 403-475 MHz. I  purchased the repeater in 
hopes of putting it on the air,but haven't got around  to it. It comes with 
everything you see in the pics including the manual. If you  email me I can 
send more pics if needed. I would like to get $600.00 for the  repeater and it 
will have to be picked up due to it's weight. I live in the  Springfield Mo. 
area. Thanks for looking. N0VW  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor receiver below 440?

[Chris Huber]

I have 12 Micor receivers in the 438 - 439 with the only mod being a 6 - 
9 pf cap add to L101 on the solder side of the board. This brought the 
drive up on the channel element. The preselector went down with no problem.

Chris N6icw

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor receiver below 440?

[Jim B.]

Captainlance wrote:
> Anyone have any luck using a 450-470 Micor receiver below 440? I am
> considering using them as link receivers. Or, anyone use a 403-420
> model in 430-440 use? Lance N2HBA
> 

Yes-I took one down to 438-something years ago, just to try it. (I just 
retuned an existing element for opposite side injection to see what I'd 
get). Sensitivity fell off quite a bit, instead of about .35-.4, it was 
more on the order of .8-.9 uV, so a re-work of the front end helicals 
would have been in order if sensitivity was critical.

-- 
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WD8CHL