[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: PL decoders
i am looking for 2 Motorola TRN6083A PL decoders for a project I am working on. I just need the modules as I have the necessary Vibrasponders already. Thanks, Dave N1OFJ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Chassis mount so-239 with hood?
what I need to make is a longer jumper for a mastr II mobile that I have converted to repeater service. I am doing the remove the keylock and replace thing and the current jumper is not only too short but was badly assembled. The RCA end is a mess. I had a heck of a time finding a good right angle RCA to start with and now I need to make the other end. I really dont care if it has the hood as long as I can get a good clean cable made that will fit into the hole and tighten down. Thanks for all the help guys! Dan --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Are you making up jumpers in the literal sense, or do you actually need a bulkhead-mount UHF female on one end? If the latter, I suggest using a UHF female bulkhead connector that crimps right to the cable. That way, you can take full advantage of the shielding afforded by the RG-400/U cable, without the leakage of a hood. Ideally, the jumpers in a station cabinet should be point-to-point without any barrels, adapters, or couplings. However, if you really must have the hood, they are available from Mouser. See Item V on this page: www.mouser.com/catalog/630/954.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Chassis mount so-239 with hood? Anyone know of a source for these darn things? I want to make up some jumpers. I have the RG-400 coax but I cant seem to find any so- 239's with the metal hood over the back! Any ideas? Thanks for your time! Dan/NØFPE
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: PL decoders
As a follow-up, these are the boards that plug into a SpectraTAC receiver chassis. Bob M. == --- n1ofj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am looking for 2 Motorola TRN6083A PL decoders for a project I am working on. I just need the modules as I have the necessary Vibrasponders already. Thanks, Dave N1OFJ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
[Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower
Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base it is 150' overall. Any help would be appreciated. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg thanks tom Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Do Anyone Use Their Repeater For This
At 12:11 AM 5/31/2007 +, you wrote: Does anyone out there that is using their repeater to support emergency operations, have it setup to also send out a page to pagers that emergency operators may have. Here is what we want to do, we wish to obtain some 2 meter voice pagers, Minitors or similar, like those used by most volunteer fire departments, and set them to receive on the same frequency as our repeater, when they receive a proper 2 tone signal from the repeater. We found the same thing as Joe-no one wanted to carry the pager and a handheld all the time for too long. The novelty wore off after a couple years. (We used PageboyII's back in the 80's.) What we wound up with, however, is a bunch of Plectron's on the repeater output at key locations around the county, dispatch centers, sheriff, 911, etc. We can set them off for Skywarn alerts or EMA responses. That has served us well for a long time. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower
Hi Tom, that is a Pirod tower made here in Plymouth Indiana. The top has been modified. There should be a 3 digit number along one of the legs, and possibly a plate near the bottom. The bolts that goes into the ground is about $140.00 a piece. You will find them here.. http://www.valmont.com/asp/communication/specialty_structures/asp/pirod.asp Mathew Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base it is 150' overall. Any help would be appreciated. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg thanks tom Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower
I have been in contact with them and they could not supply me a drawing without original owners name location age and serial number none of witch I knew. I can't believe they don't have a stock drawing for that series of tower. Any other suggestions? I really need to know what goes in the ground and what sticks out of the cement. I don't want to guess. tom - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 6/5/2007 11:06:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower Hi Tom, that is a Pirod tower made here in Plymouth Indiana. The top has been modified. There should be a 3 digit number along one of the legs, and possibly a plate near the bottom. The bolts that goes into the ground is about $140.00 a piece. You will find them here.. http://www.valmont.com/asp/communication/specialty_structures/asp/pirod.asp Mathew Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base it is 150' overall. Any help would be appreciated. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg thanks tom Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
[Repeater-Builder] Needed: R-1801 suitcase adapters.
I have some MSF 5000 repeaters that require the R-1801 suitcase programmer that I need to reprogram. I have the R-1801 and the MSF firmware, but I don't have the RTL-5817 adapter for the MSF proms. The RTL-5817 adapter for the MSF proms seems to have been misplaced or sprouted legs and walked off. Somehow I have acquired two RTL-5825 adapters (but I only need one), and a RTL-5818 adapter. Can anyone tell me if either of those adapters would work for the MSF 5000 Proms? Or I would also be willing to sacrifice one of the RTL-5825 adapters to make it into the RTL-5817 adapter if anyone has the (schematic) info on doing that. Or I would trade for one if anyone has an extra RTL-5817 adapter. I also have the RTL-5805 adapter for the MX series proms, which I don't need anymore, because I got rid of all my MX series radios. If anyone is interested in that adapter for a trade please let me know. I could also use one of the RTL-5815 adapters for the SyntorX EEPROMs, but I don't need one like I do the one for the MSF. Thanks, T.J. PS also if anyone has a copy of the MSF programming manual I could use a copy. It's been years since I programmed the last Prom MSF 5K and the brain has forgotten the procedure for all the options on that program.
[Repeater-Builder] FYI-
a stack of VHF MastrII stations will be going up on ebay very soon...not from me tho...but keep your eyes peeled...theres a couple of aux rx's in there too... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower
The bolts on my tower which is 120' has six bolts. Each bolt was 48, of which 40 went into the concrete. The tower is about 4 from the ground. Measure the bottom plate, if it is under 4, then you would not want the tower to be more than 2 from the concrete. My base plates are 6 x 8 and was recommended to be 4 from the concrete. In the early days of Pirod, they numbered the towers only by stock numbers, all the other information went with the owner of the tower. After some time they started putting plates on their towers which would give them the information of where the tower was placed, all the information about it, etc We have two pirod towers, one was a 100' and the other a 120' tower. The 100' had the plate, it was only about 10 years old when I got it 3 years ago. The 120' tower was over 20 years old, and there was no plate information on it. Call them back, ask them for a description of a typical tower at 150' with a leg spread of I think it was 52. Tell them you are not looking for engineering, just simple guide lines. I can't remember the lady I spoke to, I think her name was Marilyn, or something along those lines. She was very helpful. Mathew Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been in contact with them and they could not supply me a drawing without original owners name location age and serial number none of witch I knew. I can't believe they don't have a stock drawing for that series of tower. Any other suggestions? I really need to know what goes in the ground and what sticks out of the cement. I don't want to guess. tom - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 6/5/2007 11:06:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower Hi Tom, that is a Pirod tower made here in Plymouth Indiana. The top has been modified. There should be a 3 digit number along one of the legs, and possibly a plate near the bottom. The bolts that goes into the ground is about $140.00 a piece. You will find them here.. http://www.valmont.com/asp/communication/specialty_structures/asp/pirod.asp Mathew Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base it is 150' overall. Any help would be appreciated. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg thanks tom Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for RG-214
Hi Group, I am looking for about 20-30 of RG-214 Coax and also Looking for a female So-239 T connector Perfer Amphanol or King. Thanks, Ryan n3ssl
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower
Since someone did identify this as Pirod tower... Don't know if this will help but I found spec sheets from the Pirod catalog at this site. http://www.risatech.com/risatower.asp The file is a self extracting zip that has pdf's from their catalog. Includes the tower bases and other tower products. Max... --- Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base it is 150' overall. Any help would be appreciated. Public Information Officer -- St. Louis Suburban Radio Club K0AZV - Amateur WPWH-650 GMRS St. Louis County ARES St. Ann MO EM48tr
Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
In order not to start a rules regulations thread can anyone point me to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio? I know that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly against it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver) is causing an amateur radio station to transmit... similar to the argument against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams. Either a link to an FCC opinion or discussion off-list, please. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Ralph Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder? Hi Mike, As far as I know, morris softronics has nothing to do with midland radios, 'midlands' is just part of their domain name. Their SAME decoder board allows insertion of any radios audio source, in my case a GE M2 voter rx on 162.4. I know its a little over kill, but hey the rx works good in a high IM site :) It has a couple of control bits to and from the card for wx alert status and on/off over-ride control of the wx audio. Those tie into your repeater controller of choice. Its serially rs-232 programmed for the SAME codes of interest. 73's Ralph W4XE
RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
In order not to start a rules regulations thread can anyone point me to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio? I know that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly against it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver) is causing an amateur radio station to transmit... similar to the argument against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams. I posed this question to Riley Hollingsworth via email, his response was that it could not be done automatically, but rather the rebroadcast had to be done by a control operator. We do it automagically while a control operator monitors it. I figure it's close enough. 73
Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
I nailed that coffin shut with the writeup on the www.repeater-builder.com Radio Shack page. Mike WA6ILQ At 04:19 PM 06/05/07, you wrote: In order not to start a rules regulations thread can anyone point me to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio? I know that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly against it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver) is causing an amateur radio station to transmit... similar to the argument against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams. Either a link to an FCC opinion or discussion off-list, please. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Ralph Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder? Hi Mike, As far as I know, morris softronics has nothing to do with midland radios, 'midlands' is just part of their domain name. Their SAME decoder board allows insertion of any radios audio source, in my case a GE M2 voter rx on 162.4. I know its a little over kill, but hey the rx works good in a high IM site :) It has a couple of control bits to and from the card for wx alert status and on/off over-ride control of the wx audio. Those tie into your repeater controller of choice. Its serially rs-232 programmed for the SAME codes of interest. 73's Ralph W4XE Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
At 04:36 PM 06/05/07, you wrote: In order not to start a rules regulations thread can anyone point me to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio? I know that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly against it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver) is causing an amateur radio station to transmit... similar to the argument against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams. I posed this question to Riley Hollingsworth via email, his response was that it could not be done automatically, but rather the rebroadcast had to be done by a control operator. When was this? We do it automagically while a control operator monitors it. I figure it's close enough. 73 Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my writeup (posted at http://www.repeater-builder.com/radio-shack/radio-shack-index.html I specifically said automatically in my email to Riley on November 15th 2006. Riley forwarded my email to Dan Henderson N1ND ARRL Regulatory Information Specialist, @ the ARRL, who on the 17th said it was OK as long as a control op was monitoring and could shut it down if needed. Dan said it was OK, and as he was speaking for Riley (and I saved all the emails), it's fine with me. Hopefully the web page I created answers all the questions. If it doesn't let me know and I'll email Dan (again). REMEMBER - Part 97 is the ONLY section in the FCC rules that say You can't do X. Every other section - GMRS, Public Safety, CB, Aircraft, etc all say You can only do X. Don't give them any opening to say NO. If you have a good reasonable reason to do something, do it on a private limited use system at your house. If it works out, do it (or move it) to an open wide area coverage system. That's how the first remote base in the Southern Calif area got put up in the mid 1950s - first on a garage repeater, then on a mountaintop. The remote control was a rotary telephone dial pulsing an audio oscillator. Nobody asked is it legal? They just did it. Mike WA6ILQ
[Repeater-Builder] flea market special repeater
Re: flea market special repeater I picked up a flea market special homebrew UHF Repeater Receiver cor board. One of the popular Hamtronics kit Receivers and Cor 2 Repeater Controller we've talked about many times in this group. Every time I get one of these deals home I end up pulling it down to rebuild and clean up. Most of the time I end up doing a time intensive rebuild that's often more than the equipment is worth. Rare does it go back in the original mounting holes drilled with a chain-saw aluminum box. I often wonder why some people can build kits really well but a proper size drill bit or hole punch is nowhere to be found during the board mounting. . So this time I told myself to leave the darn thing original and just clean it up where needed. Powered the darn thing up and after a check-out and basic alignment it works exactly like it's spec'd to do! I mated the helical preamp, receiver cor combo to an Icom 04at ht (as the transmitter) with a flat pack mobile uhf duplexer and installed an ID O'matic cw ider. I'm into this whole project for under $100 and it works pretty killer for what it is. Fast forward now because we all often have too much time on our hands. I actually didn't do the following but we can assume what many of you will think of next because we've seen it happen. The entire repeater package is working fairly well... but it doesn't have a lot of rf power. That darn 04at ht only puts out a few watts max on a good day with a tail wind. Hey! Let's make it stronger with an external amplifer So you series an external amplifier in the transmiter to duplexer line and the receiver side chokes up and stops working well... and you start to wonder why. After fighting with the amplifier addition problem long enough you get mad at the equipment and get something else that's often more forgiving of your higher power operation sins. There was nothing wrong with the kit repeater equipment... just how we tend to force things. The original owner of this equipment told me pretty much the same story when I bought the box from him. cheers, s.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
Your closing comment reminds me of two Rules to Live By I learned in my 22+ year military career: Rule 1. Don't ask the question if you're afraid of the answer. Rule 2. It is sometimes better to ask for forgiveness afterwards than to get permission first. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder? snip Don't give them any opening to say NO. If you have a good reasonable reason to do something, do it on a private limited use system at your house. If it works out, do it (or move it) to an open wide area coverage system. That's how the first remote base in the Southern Calif area got put up in the mid 1950s - first on a garage repeater, then on a mountaintop. The remote control was a rotary telephone dial pulsing an audio oscillator. Nobody asked is it legal? They just did it. Mike WA6ILQ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
At 06:06 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Rule 1. Don't ask the question if you're afraid of the answer. Rule 2. It is sometimes better to ask for forgiveness afterwards than to get permission first. ---True enough! Then again, I try to live my life by 2 other rules: 1) Never share everything you know 2) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
[Repeater-Builder] UHF T-1500 series pass band loops
Looking for 2 to 4 sets of pass band loops for UHF (450-470) Motorola T1500 series cavities (2 loops per cavity = 1 set). Anyone have any to spare ? If so furnish quantiy and price per set, if applicable. Doug N3DAB
Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
- Original Message - From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder? I nailed that coffin shut with the writeup on the www.repeater-builder.com Radio Shack page. Mike WA6ILQ Thanks. That was just what I was looking for (though certainly not where I expected to find it!) Someone locally was trying to say that it came down the other way. George
RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?
I posed this question to Riley Hollingsworth via email, his response was that it could not be done automatically, but rather the rebroadcast had to be done by a control operator. When was this? Well geez I'm sorry, not enough caffeine in my blood system. I went back and looked, and the response was similar to what you said, that it was OK to be automatic as long as the control operator could still control the machine. Not sure why I thought it was different, guess I slept too many times since then. 73
[Repeater-Builder] Re: IC FR4000
Keep me posted on how the install goes with the Icom. I am is Seattle and they are just across the lake. Also I would like to get in touch with the fellow that is using the Vertex 7000. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know more how your friend got the 4000 to program in the ham band. thanks John - Original Message - From: Derek To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IC FR4000 a friend of mine is using the vertex 7000 450-470 MHz repeater at 443.225 with no problem and i just ordered a icom FR4000 450-480 MHz repeater to use at 444.825. the seller programmed it for me before shipping and said it was putting out 8 watts on low power (all i need since i'm using a PA) and nearly 50 watts on high power. i hope to get the icom installed at the tower site next weekend and will let you know how it works. *DEREK* KD4ADL --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, barrypal barrypal@ wrote: Anyone running the Icom repeater in the ham bands? This question has probably come up before buy I couldn't find it. I am considering the Icom 4000 or Vertex 7000 for my ham repeater. I am running a GE Mastr II now. I know they are bullet proof and the audio is great but weight and space are a consideration in a possible new location. Thanks