[Repeater-Builder] Re: First repeater?

[George Sintchak]

I remember reading an article about a repeater in the late 40's or 
early 50's that was on a mountain top in Arizona. It was AM mode, 
repeated from 28 MHz (I think) to 50 or 144 Mhz, or maybe it was 
split site. To be legal, all was logged on a very slow tape recorder. 
That's about all I can remember - do a search on that. There might be 
an article on it in the QST archives.

George, WA2VNV


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know this is somewhat controversial, but I'm looking for the 
date/year
> the first ham repeater was put on the air. Anyone know of a webpage 
with
> repeater history? Would like to have this info tonight for a
> presentation tomorrow.
> 
> Joe M.
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[mch]

Found once source:


But it doesn't say where the first modern (automatic retransmitting)
repeater was... or whose callsign.

Joe M.

mch wrote:
> 
> I know this is somewhat controversial, but I'm looking for the date/year
> the first ham repeater was put on the air. Anyone know of a webpage with
> repeater history? Would like to have this info tonight for a
> presentation tomorrow.
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[mch]

Thanks again, Ken. That is exactly what I was looking for.

I believe there are some other folks who lay claim to the 'father of
repeaters', too.

In all honesty, it looks like it happened in steps - with Art being the
first (perhaps) to put up the first fully automatic repeater. Even that
article quotes him as knowing of another system which was automatic but
manned.

Joe M.

Ken Arck wrote:
> 
> At 07:56 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote:
> 
> >What country are you in?
> >
> >The first amateur repeater in Canada was VE3RPT in 1965, which is still
> >on the air but now in its forth (soon to be fifth) incarnation.
> 
> <---Sorry but no :-)
> 
> http://www2.arrl.org/qst/2004/03/pasterna.pdf
> 
> Ken
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[Ken Arck]

At 08:47 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote:

>He said the first in Canada, Ken. :-)

<---So he did!

Ken
(at least I know ham isn't bacon!) 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[mch]

I was/am looking for USA, but thanks
for the history north of the border!

I did read a web page about the first repeater in the UK.

Joe M.

VE3ID wrote:
> 
> What country are you in?
> 
> The first amateur repeater in Canada was VE3RPT in 1965, which is still
> on the air but now in its forth (soon to be fifth) incarnation.  We got
> a lot of help from the folks in the BARRA group in Buffalo NY, so they
> were on the air before that.  Repeaters in the UK started much later
> than that, I have a letter somewhere from an RSGB officer saying they
> were just considering them on an experimental basis in the seventies.
> 
> 73,
> Nigel
> ve3id
> 
> mch wrote:
> >
> > I know this is somewhat controversial, but I'm looking for the date/year
> > the first ham repeater was put on the air. Anyone know of a webpage with
> > repeater history? Would like to have this info tonight for a
> > presentation tomorrow.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[mch]

He said the first in Canada, Ken. :-)

Thanks very much for the link!

Joe M.

Ken Arck wrote:
> 
> At 07:56 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote:
> 
> >What country are you in?
> >
> >The first amateur repeater in Canada was VE3RPT in 1965, which is still
> >on the air but now in its forth (soon to be fifth) incarnation.
> 
> <---Sorry but no :-)
> 
> http://www2.arrl.org/qst/2004/03/pasterna.pdf
> 
> Ken
> 
> --
> President and CTO - Arcom Communications
> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
> http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
> we offer complete repeater packages!
> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
> http://www.irlp.net
> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[Ken Arck]

At 07:56 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote:

>What country are you in?
>
>The first amateur repeater in Canada was VE3RPT in 1965, which is still
>on the air but now in its forth (soon to be fifth) incarnation.

<---Sorry but no :-)

http://www2.arrl.org/qst/2004/03/pasterna.pdf

Ken




--
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Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"

Re: [Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[VE3ID]

What country are you in?

The first amateur repeater in Canada was VE3RPT in 1965, which is still 
on the air but now in its forth (soon to be fifth) incarnation.  We got 
a lot of help from the folks in the BARRA group in Buffalo NY, so they 
were on the air before that.  Repeaters in the UK started much later 
than that, I have a letter somewhere from an RSGB officer saying they 
were just considering them on an experimental basis in the seventies.

73,
Nigel
ve3id




mch wrote:
>
> I know this is somewhat controversial, but I'm looking for the date/year
> the first ham repeater was put on the air. Anyone know of a webpage with
> repeater history? Would like to have this info tonight for a
> presentation tomorrow.
>
> Joe M.
>
> 
> 
>
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[Repeater-Builder] First repeater?

[mch]

I know this is somewhat controversial, but I'm looking for the date/year
the first ham repeater was put on the air. Anyone know of a webpage with
repeater history? Would like to have this info tonight for a
presentation tomorrow.

Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low-band MITREK?

[JOHN MACKEY]

Actually that is what I want to use it for, is a RPU link.

Also, I thought about using one for 12 meter FM, with reduced deviation of
course.

-- Original Message --
Received: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:57:19 PM CDT
From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low-band MITREK?

> At 02:55 PM 06/25/07, you wrote:
> >Has anyone ever tried to take a mitrek (29.7-39 MHz) down to 25 MHz?
> 
> There were some SPs made for the 25mhz RPU channels.
> 
> If you can find a manual on them they will have the info you need to
> range change a 29mhz one.
> 
> If anyone has a 25mhz mitrek SP manual I can get it scanned
> for repeater-builder.com.
> 
> Mike 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low-band MITREK?

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 02:55 PM 06/25/07, you wrote:
>Has anyone ever tried to take a mitrek (29.7-39 MHz) down to 25 MHz?

There were some SPs made for the 25mhz RPU channels.

If you can find a manual on them they will have the info you need to
range change a 29mhz one.

If anyone has a 25mhz mitrek SP manual I can get it scanned
for repeater-builder.com.

Mike 

[Repeater-Builder] Low-band MITREK?

[JOHN MACKEY]

Has anyone ever tried to take a mitrek (29.7-39 MHz) down to 25 MHz?

[Repeater-Builder] Wacom Cavity VHF

[K7OET]

Anyone have a Wacom cavity out of a 641 or 643
they would like to sell. Need one for our Navy 
Mars repeater.

Thanks, Jim

Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale: Motorola MICOR series base/repeater

[Maire-Radios]

well it is a Micor repeater 250 watt output  if the tube is good.
UHF 450 band



  - Original Message - 
  From: burgershakes 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:09 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale: Motorola MICOR series base/repeater


  I recently acquired this unit and know very little about it. I know it 
  is surplus from the University of Kentucky and it is very clean. I'm 
  not a ham, so I don't know how to power up / test. Even if you're not 
  interested, any info you might provide about the unit would be of great 
  help. If you are interested, send me an email, all offers considered. 
  The rack is located in Lexington, KY and is only available for pickup 
  (obviously). Pictures can be seen here:

  www.regencycomputercenter.com/motorola.html

  If you would like more pictures or any other info, let me know.

  Thanks!



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday???)

[Jim]

Mike Morris wrote:
>> Wasn't there a mid-split, ie, 36-42 sorta thing? Those aren't much good
>> for anything, to hard to move.
> 
> Nope. Mitreks came in only two ranges, the breakpoint was at 39mhz.

Check...tnx
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday?

[skipp025]

There were some special built Mitreks in really odd non-standard us 
bands/ranges not to mention one 25MHz made for the gov/military. And 
of course the same chassis Motrek, which was a Mitreck with parts 
pulled until it quit working... then put the last part back in. Truely 
a no-frills Mitrek chassis. 

cheers, 
s. 

>>Wasn't there a mid-split, ie, 36-42 sorta thing? Those aren't 
>> much goodfor anything, to hard to move.
 
> Nope. Mitreks came in only two ranges, the breakpoint was at 39mhz.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF5000 codeplug

[kc8lts]

Thanks guys, I got the help I needed and the repeater is now up and
working as expected.

T.J. (KC8LTS)



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "kc8lts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a MSF 5000 900 MHz trunking repeater that I am converting to a
> conventional repeater and I am in need of a conventional 900 MHz MSF
> 5000 codeplug to make this work properly.  I have the repeater working
> and tuned up right, it receives and transmits just fine, but does not
> repeat the signal coming in.  It's must be looking for the right
> signals coming in and doesn't see them to key the station on it's own.
>  The other reason is that I can't change the options in the codeplug
> to allow me to use PL or DPL tones, it wants to see the "connect
> tones" for trunking, which is not what I want to use.  So if someone
> has a blank codeplug for a high power conventional MSF 5000 900 MHz
> repeater I could use a copy.  The model number for that codeplug would
> be C85GFB7206AT.  The trunking one I have now is a C85GFB7203AT.
> 
> Thanks, T.J. (KC8LTS)
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday???)

[Mike Morris]

At 11:57 AM 06/25/07, you wrote:
>Kris Kirby wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, k3csa wrote:
> >> Transmitter info: CC1147 Receiver info: RC0213 Model #: T51JJA1000AK
> >> Serial#: 433HDQ1072
> >
> > Lowband boatanchor.
> >
> >> can anybody tell me exactly what i've got???
>
>I wouldn't call it a boat anchor...the low split radio will go to 10M,
>and the high split will go to 6M just fine-either make excellent
>repeater rx's, not as good as a Micor or MII, but better then most.
>
>Tx is only ok-they aren't continuous duty by any means.
>
>Wasn't there a mid-split, ie, 36-42 sorta thing? Those aren't much good
>for anything, to hard to move.

Nope. Mitreks came in only two ranges, the breakpoint was at 39mhz.

>--
>Jim Barbour
>WD8CHL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[Repeater-Builder] For Sale: Motorola MICOR series base/repeater

[burgershakes]

I recently acquired this unit and know very little about it.  I know it 
is surplus from the University of Kentucky and it is very clean.  I'm 
not a ham, so I don't know how to power up / test. Even if you're not 
interested, any info you might provide about the unit would be of great 
help.  If you are interested, send me an email, all offers considered.  
The rack is located in Lexington, KY and is only available for pickup 
(obviously).  Pictures can be seen here:

 www.regencycomputercenter.com/motorola.html

If you would like more pictures or any other info, let me know.

Thanks!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday???)

[Jim]

Kris Kirby wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, k3csa wrote:
>> Transmitter info: CC1147 Receiver info: RC0213 Model #: T51JJA1000AK 
>> Serial#: 433HDQ1072
> 
> Lowband boatanchor.
>  
>> can anybody tell me exactly what i've got???

I wouldn't call it a boat anchor...the low split radio will go to 10M, 
and the high split will go to 6M just fine-either make excellent 
repeater rx's, not as good as a Micor or MII, but better then most.

Tx is only ok-they aren't continuous duty by any means.

Wasn't there a mid-split, ie, 36-42 sorta thing? Those aren't much good 
for anything, to hard to move.
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday???)

[Bob M.]

Just from the T51 model number, trunk mount, 60 watts,
low band (25-50 MHz). There's a list of model numbers
on www.repeater-builder.com, in the Motorola section,
that will help with the JJA and 1000 parts of the
model number.

Bob M.
==
--- k3csa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> folks,
> 
> i received a Motorola MITREK "drawer unit" & a
> "control head" yesterday 
> as a gift. the man who gave it to me knows NOTHING
> about the radio, as 
> he recently bought the building/contents, as a
> "package deal" 
> (EVERYTHING conveyed in the sale of the building
> including over 2 "dump 
> truck loads" of household trash/garbage). included
> in the "junk box" 
> was a pile of GE MASTR II control heads, microphones
> & sets of cables. 
> (alas, NO cables for the Motorola)
> 
> Transmitter info: CC1147
> Receiver info: RC0213
> Model #: T51JJA1000AK
> Serial#: 433HDQ1072
> 
> can anybody tell me exactly what i've got???
> 
> thanks, 73 de K3CSA


 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday???)

[Kris Kirby]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, k3csa wrote:
> Transmitter info: CC1147 Receiver info: RC0213 Model #: T51JJA1000AK 
> Serial#: 433HDQ1072

Lowband boatanchor.
 
> can anybody tell me exactly what i've got???

http://www.seits.org/repeater/mitrek/mitrek.htm
http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-index.html

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"The illegal we do immediately.  The unconstitutional takes
 a bit longer." -- Henry Kissinger

[Repeater-Builder] any MITREK experts??? (WHAT sort of beast did i get "gifted with" yesterday???)

[k3csa]

folks,

i received a Motorola MITREK "drawer unit" & a "control head" yesterday 
as a gift. the man who gave it to me knows NOTHING about the radio, as 
he recently bought the building/contents, as a "package deal" 
(EVERYTHING conveyed in the sale of the building including over 2 "dump 
truck loads" of household trash/garbage). included in the "junk box" 
was a pile of GE MASTR II control heads, microphones & sets of cables. 
(alas, NO cables for the Motorola)

Transmitter info: CC1147
Receiver info: RC0213
Model #: T51JJA1000AK
Serial#: 433HDQ1072

can anybody tell me exactly what i've got???

thanks, 73 de K3CSA

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Spectrum SCR 77 220 Repeater

[skipp025]

Hi John, 

Nothing wrong with your Spectrum Gear after fixing a few minor 
issues.  I have the 224 Receiver information to send you (free of 
course) and a much larger SCR-77 repeater package pdf scan if you 
also need it.  

Email me direct so I have a good Email address to send the scans. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

> "John Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello to the group.
> 
> Does anyone have any documentation or information on the Spectrum SCR 
> 77 220 Mhz repeater? I am trying to repair one of these animals that 
> has no Rx audio. It would appear that there is no discrimiator audio 
> out either so I believe that the problem is in the Rx board not just 
> the audio amp area.
> 
> I know what you folks are thinking.. I just enjoy a challenge.
> 
> Thanks in advance.John ab6li
>

[Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 codeplug

[kc8lts]

I have a MSF 5000 900 MHz trunking repeater that I am converting to a
conventional repeater and I am in need of a conventional 900 MHz MSF
5000 codeplug to make this work properly.  I have the repeater working
and tuned up right, it receives and transmits just fine, but does not
repeat the signal coming in.  It's must be looking for the right
signals coming in and doesn't see them to key the station on it's own.
 The other reason is that I can't change the options in the codeplug
to allow me to use PL or DPL tones, it wants to see the "connect
tones" for trunking, which is not what I want to use.  So if someone
has a blank codeplug for a high power conventional MSF 5000 900 MHz
repeater I could use a copy.  The model number for that codeplug would
be C85GFB7206AT.  The trunking one I have now is a C85GFB7203AT.

Thanks, T.J. (KC8LTS)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Want Motorola or Helper Millivolt Meter Manual - info

[Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio]

--- skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone have a copy of the Motorola R-1076A or
> 1339A Millivolt 
> Meter - Service/Owner/Operation Manual? ... or
> any combination 
> of?  and/or a decent Helper Manual? 
> 
> I'll buy or borrow it... scan it to pdf and
> make copies available 
> (free of course) to everyone. But I need to
> find the Manuals first 
> and that's where you can help. 
> 
> reply direct please 
> 
> cheers, 
> skipp 
> 
> skipp025 at yahoo.com 
> 
> 


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for SpectraTAC items

[Adam C. Feuer]

For that much money, that new cord should be able to replace all the 
bad caps in the SpectraTac supplies too!!

Adam N2ACF


At 05:44 6/25/2007, you wrote:
>Motorola wants $37 for a line cord.
>Ridiculous, unless it's made from 24k gold.
>
>Bob M.
>==
>--- n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I believe I bought both the connectors and pins from
> > Mouser - cannot
> > remember the item numbers offhand, but I'll try to
> > see if I can look up the
> > order.  I had to make up three cords for remote RX
> > units on my 440 repeater
> > system.
> >
> > And Bob -it'll take me a couple of days to recover
> > from 24 hours of straight
> > operation.  
> >
> > Mark - N9WYS
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of
> > Adam C. Feuer
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > If you find those power cords, let me know as I've
> > been looking all
> > over for them as well.
> >
> > I have some encoder cards for you.  Maybe I'll drive
> > up to the hill
> > and change my Maxtrac's PL to yours and I'll give
> > you a shout.
> >
> > Adam N2ACF
> >
> > At 19:47 6/24/2007, you wrote:
> > >120VAC USA Power Cord, the one with the "almost
> > Molex"
> > >connector at the end that plugs into the SpectraTAC
> > >receiver or comparator power supply. The plastic
> > >shells are available from Motorola, the female pins
> > >are NOT.
> > >
> > >2175 Hz Status Tone Encoder card used in SpectraTAC
> > >receiver units.
> > >
> > >Let me know what you have and how much for each
> > item.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Bob M.
> > >
> > >Hope everyone is now recovering from Field Day !
>
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for SpectraTAC items

[Bob M.]

Well, I purchased a set of standard Molex pins and
connectors, but the plastic connectors do NOT fit and
are slightly different design. I never got past that
point. If Mouser has them, that's obviously the place
to get them from. Motorola wants $37 for a line cord.
Ridiculous, unless it's made from 24k gold.

Bob M.
==
--- n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe I bought both the connectors and pins from
> Mouser - cannot
> remember the item numbers offhand, but I'll try to
> see if I can look up the
> order.  I had to make up three cords for remote RX
> units on my 440 repeater
> system.
> 
> And Bob -it'll take me a couple of days to recover
> from 24 hours of straight
> operation.  
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of
> Adam C. Feuer
> 
> Bob,
> 
> If you find those power cords, let me know as I've
> been looking all 
> over for them as well.
> 
> I have some encoder cards for you.  Maybe I'll drive
> up to the hill 
> and change my Maxtrac's PL to yours and I'll give
> you a shout.
> 
> Adam N2ACF
> 
> At 19:47 6/24/2007, you wrote:
> >120VAC USA Power Cord, the one with the "almost
> Molex"
> >connector at the end that plugs into the SpectraTAC
> >receiver or comparator power supply. The plastic
> >shells are available from Motorola, the female pins
> >are NOT.
> >
> >2175 Hz Status Tone Encoder card used in SpectraTAC
> >receiver units.
> >
> >Let me know what you have and how much for each
> item.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Bob M.
> >
> >Hope everyone is now recovering from Field Day !


   

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