Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Micor 114.8 Hz PL reeds

2007-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a new 114.8 reed from an MSR2000 from the mid 1990's
Bill

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Micor 114.8 Hz PL
reeds
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:59:19 -

 Hello all;
 
 I'm looking for sender and 'sponder reeds for a Micor,
 TLN6824 and TLN8381 in 114.8 Hz.  Anybody have some they'd
 like to sell?
 
 Peter
 
 


[Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

2007-10-03 Thread jimmylpowell
I am trying to use a UHF Maratrac as a transmitter. I want to leave
off the control head. 
I can not get it to transmit without the control head. I have jumpered
pins 17  13 and 19  4. I have checked the fuse on the logic board. I
have tried the Ptt pin on the 16 pin. 

Are the any other jumpers that may need to be added? Any other ideas?

Jimmy, KS4KX



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Call Sign and Sounds like a Ham -- Now WC Calls

2007-10-03 Thread n9wys
Gentle amateurs.

 

I sincerely apologize for opening this can of worms about callsigns. I was
merely relating information I had received when I applied for a vanity
callsign for my club.  I now know I was incorrect in assuming this was
correct information.

 

Please - LET IT DIE.

 

Mark - N9WYS

 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Call Sign and Sounds like a Ham -- Now WC
Calls

 

Hi All

 

If memory serves the WC calls were for ARES stations, my local village had a
WC call and the volunteer hams also had WC calls, this was back in the 70's
and it is all non-existent today. (I think!)

 

73, Brian, WD9HSY, 1977 or 1978

 

Your kid may be an Honor Student,
Your Kid may be a Great Athlete,
Your Kid may be a Doctor or a Lawyer,
But My kid is in the US Air Force  plays with ICBM's,  Inter Continental
Ballistic Missiles, 

What was your Latitude and Longitude?





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[Repeater-Builder] Looking For A Few Repeater Parts

2007-10-03 Thread Alexander N Tubonjic
  After having an eye on ebay for a few weeks and not finding what I'm
looking for I figured I'd see if anyone has anything laying around on
here. I am rebuilding a repeater and am in need of a few parts...

 1) Rack, standard 19'' wide and 36'' or 48'' tall. Prefer local to FL
 2) 2 GE MASTRII VHF Radios
 3) VHF Band Pass filter
 4) VHF PA (repeater duty) 

 If anyone has any goodies laying around feel free to let me know the
condition and price. Thanks.

   Alex N4TIA



[Repeater-Builder] Re: msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread skipp025
What do you call acting squirelly?
s. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looking for the R1 audio board., either TRN 9688 or TRN 9689 ! 
 Ours is acting squirelly., don't really want to drag the repeater 
 back here.  
 Please reply offlist please with the details price etc. 
 Tnx 
 Jerry VE3 EXT 




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Call Sign and Sounds like a Ham -- Now WC Calls

2007-10-03 Thread skipp025
There are a number of WC-- two by one callsigns issued until 
they ran out of available slots and moved on to the next series. 
Circa 1980's
s. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All
 If memory serves the WC calls were for ARES stations, my local 
 village had  a WC call and the volunteer hams also had WC calls, 
 this was back in the 70's  
 and it is all non-existent today. (I think!)
  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer and noise question

2007-10-03 Thread Jim
Jim wrote:
  It is somewhere in the atnenna system.

*ANTENNA*

|cP...
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WD8CHL



[Repeater-Builder] msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread ve3ext
Looking for the R1 audio board., either TRN 9688 or TRN 9689 ! 

Ours is acting squirelly., don't really want to drag the repeater back here. 

Please reply offlist please with the details price etc. 

Tnx 

Jerry VE3 EXT 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread ve3ext
Skipp-  audio level varies from none to ok., good for a few days., then no 
audio agn. 

Pots have been cleaned., rotated., pin contacts cleaned, still have the  
problem. 

Easier to replace the board then drag the repeater home for service. 

Can you help? 

Tnx 

Jerry VE3 EXT


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
I had a hairline crack where the R1 card plugs into the motherboard that 
caused the exact problem with my MSR2000.  Get a magnifying glass and a good 
set of eyes and take a look around those pins on the backside of the MB.
de WD7F
John in Tucson

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: msr 2000 audio board needed


Skipp-  audio level varies from none to ok., good for a few days., then no
audio agn.

Pots have been cleaned., rotated., pin contacts cleaned, still have the
problem.

Easier to replace the board then drag the repeater home for service.

Can you help?

Tnx

Jerry VE3 EXT





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[Repeater-Builder] MIDLAND BANTAM SOFT

2007-10-03 Thread cobalto27mx
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

2007-10-03 Thread Scott Zimmerman
I am making the assumption that you have programmed the radio to use a 
clam-shell style control head and NOT an A7 display head.
You were so close. All you needed to do is connect pins 19  4 to +12v. From 
the batlabs website:
 If you need to program a Maratrac, and do not have a control head 
 available, all is not lost. What you do need is a control cable from a 
 Maratrac, Mitrek, Mocom 70, or Motrac.

 What you want to do is wire pin 17 and 13 to NEGATIVE, and pin 19 and 4 to 
 12VDC. This can be used to power the radio up. Then you just use the 
 programming port in the radio to do the programming.

 This power cable can also be used to power up the radio to use as a 
 transmitter without a control head. Again, you just use the programming 
 port to access the PTT and mic audio pins.

Doing the above method does not allow for channel selection, but if you are 
simply using this as a repeater transmitter, It will get you by.

Good luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head


I am trying to use a UHF Maratrac as a transmitter. I want to leave
 off the control head.
 I can not get it to transmit without the control head. I have jumpered
 pins 17  13 and 19  4. I have checked the fuse on the logic board. I
 have tried the Ptt pin on the 16 pin.

 Are the any other jumpers that may need to be added? Any other ideas?

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[Repeater-Builder] ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

2007-10-03 Thread skipp025
ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

I've been talking with a small number of people off the group about 
external repeater controller interface logic lines. In specific how 
many of the external repeater controllers handle ctcss (sub-tone, aka 
PL) detection, logic, control and selection. 

To keep things short and simple... let us assume an example of the 
two most common repeater controller layouts regarding ctcss operation. 

Example 1.
Simple external repeater controllers don't have any ctcss logic 
input lines. There is no software and hardware in place to address 
ctcss detection and control. 

Some folks do wire an available output logic line to toggle hardware 
within the repeater in and out of ctcss operation.  But again the 
controller software in operation has no idea when ctcss is provided 
by the user. The controller only knows a command to drop or raise an 
output logic line has been requested. In some cases the controller 
software might label an output line as a ctcss on/off control 
function and even provide software labels to avoid confusion... 

Depending on the software within (and an available hardware logic 
input line) the controller, some people do wire ctcss logic detect. 
It's just a question of the controller software being able to respond 
in a usable format to valid ctcss detection logic and the creative 
programming of the repeater control operator/owner. 

Example 2. 
Many enhanced repeater controllers have a logic input line designed 
in software and hardware to be tied to the ctcss decoder output 
valid logic. With this type of hardware/software it is not a 
normally a requirement to provide a ctcss on/off control line back 
to the repeater hardware although an ordinary logic output line 
can be routed back to the repeater ctcss control hardware if desired 
and/or required. 

Software within the controller is often set up to respond to ctcss 
detection as desired and selected by the repeater control operator/ 
owner. Other creative programming allows the dtmf decoder to respond 
only to received signals with a valid ctcss in place. Macros can 
also be executed based on programming. 

Based on how creative you want to be... both repeater controller 
types can allow both carrier squelch and ctcss repeater operation. 

Some of the repeater to external controller modifications presented 
on the Internet include CTCSS detection logic output, which is 
not used with some of the more basic repeater controllers. One 
simply wires the basic repeater controller into place leaving the 
CTCSS detection logic input unused. Normally the repeater is wired 
to operate only in carrier or ctcss access but both modes are 
possible in most/many cases. Hot Java or Diet Pepsi help when you're 
trying to sort through the options. 

cheers, 
s. 



[Repeater-Builder] Help with Motorola Radius M120 - Intermittent Recieve

2007-10-03 Thread russcrisp
I have a Moto M120 UHF that has intermittent receive. Doesn't work more 
than it does..  A friend suggested that I count the Second LO, and make 
sure it's at 45.645 Mhz. I have no service documentation on this model, 
so rather than poke all around looking for something that may not be 
there, I thought I ask the group here for assistance.

Does anyone have experience with the M120?  Is this indeed the correct 
setting for the second LO for a UHF radio? 438-470.. Where is the 
proper place to attach a counter to measure this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. This radio is used in a link.

Best regards,
Russ Crisp
K4RCC



[Repeater-Builder] Re: msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread skipp025
There are two small pots on the R1-Audio Module that need to be 
set using a service monitor. Have those to small pots been properly 
adjusted? 

A few things come to mind... shooting in the dark. The first might 
be a failed/cranky electrolytic cap, a bad pot setting (which is 
pretty common) and possibly a break in a trace (often near a pc 
trace landing). 

Are you using Caig Labs ProGold or DeOxit to clean the pots?   

If the Module failed on me... I'd put some clip leads onto the 
various sections to try and isolate and locate the problem. It 
might not aways be the easy way out  (the no free lunch rule 
applies here). 

cheers, 
s. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Skipp-  audio level varies from none to ok., good for a few 
 days., then no audio agn. 
 
 Pots have been cleaned., rotated., pin contacts cleaned, still 
 have the problem. 
 
 Easier to replace the board then drag the repeater home for service. 
 
 Can you help? 
 
 Tnx 
 
 Jerry VE3 EXT





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Motorola Radius M120 - Intermittent Recieve

2007-10-03 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Russ,

If the receive is intermittent, your problem is likely NOT the LO being 
off-frequency. An LO that was off would rear its head as sounding off 
frequency or poor sensitivity. I have had some problems with the LO crystals 
drifting as of late, but I don't think that is your problem from the 
description you provided. At any rate, the second LO crystal frequency is 
44.645 NOT 45.645. The IF frequency is 45.10, so 45.100 - 44.645 = 455KHz.

It sounds to me like you might have a broken/cracked solder joint somewhere 
inside the radio or that the Rx VCO is going out of lock.

Does it seem to be temperature related? If so, that would lead more toward 
the VCO. You can open the radio and VCO compartment and see what the voltage 
is on the test point marked SL. It should be around 7v or so. If not, you 
can adjust the Rx VCO coil to get it more in-line where it needs to be.

Good luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Motorola Radius M120 - Intermittent 
Recieve


I have a Moto M120 UHF that has intermittent receive. Doesn't work more
 than it does..  A friend suggested that I count the Second LO, and make
 sure it's at 45.645 Mhz. I have no service documentation on this model,
 so rather than poke all around looking for something that may not be
 there, I thought I ask the group here for assistance.

 Does anyone have experience with the M120?  Is this indeed the correct
 setting for the second LO for a UHF radio? 438-470.. Where is the
 proper place to attach a counter to measure this?

 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This radio is used in a link.

 Best regards,
 Russ Crisp
 K4RCC






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Motorola Radius M120 - Intermittent Recieve

2007-10-03 Thread Russ Crisp
Hey Scott.

 

Thanks for writing back.  You did some work for me not too long ago. I
sent up a spectra-tac receiver that you retuned for me while Kevin was
busy somewhere. We swapped the vibrasponder tone element too. I needed
131.8, and you took what was in it and put that one back in.. Remember?

 

Anyhoo... I got this unit about a year ago, and it looked brand new..
Not a scratch on it. Still had that new smell too. I employed it as a
IRLP link radio. It's a 10w unit. I'd often try to operate the IRLP node
and it would not respond. Turned out to be this unit's receiver.

 

I opened it up last nite. Looked totally virgin inside. I cleaned the
connectors where the boards(top and bottom) attach to the chassis.  I
had to take the lid off what I'm assuming is the VCO compartment to get
at a couple of screws to lift the board. It's the shiny lid that presses
down over a couple of sections inside the radio, correct?

 

I'll open it up again this evening and take a measurement at the test
point you indicated.   I'll assume I don't need a signal present to make
this measurement. Might be good if you could give me a pointer to
location of the RX VCO coil too, so I can tweak if it's out of spec..
Is it labeled?   What voltage would be considered acceptable?  7 +- 2v
or so???

 

It really doesn't seem temperature related. The unit operates in a
climate controlled room.  I may send it up to you for a look if I can't
make any headway, if you work on these...

 

73s, and thanks again for writing back.

Russ

 

From: Scott Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:26 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Motorola Radius M120 -
Intermittent Recieve

 

Russ,

If the receive is intermittent, your problem is likely NOT the LO being 
off-frequency. An LO that was off would rear its head as sounding off 
frequency or poor sensitivity. I have had some problems with the LO
crystals 
drifting as of late, but I don't think that is your problem from the 
description you provided. At any rate, the second LO crystal frequency
is 
44.645 NOT 45.645. The IF frequency is 45.10, so 45.100 - 44.645 =
455KHz.

It sounds to me like you might have a broken/cracked solder joint
somewhere 
inside the radio or that the Rx VCO is going out of lock.

Does it seem to be temperature related? If so, that would lead more
toward 
the VCO. You can open the radio and VCO compartment and see what the
voltage 
is on the test point marked SL. It should be around 7v or so. If not,
you 
can adjust the Rx VCO coil to get it more in-line where it needs to be.

Good luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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From: russcrisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:rcrisp%40gmail.com 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Motorola Radius M120 -
Intermittent 
Recieve

I have a Moto M120 UHF that has intermittent receive. Doesn't work more
 than it does.. A friend suggested that I count the Second LO, and make
 sure it's at 45.645 Mhz. I have no service documentation on this
model,
 so rather than poke all around looking for something that may not be
 there, I thought I ask the group here for assistance.

 Does anyone have experience with the M120? Is this indeed the correct
 setting for the second LO for a UHF radio? 438-470.. Where is the
 proper place to attach a counter to measure this?

 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This radio is used in a link.

 Best regards,
 Russ Crisp
 K4RCC






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
we hhave available 3 part numbers in r1 audio
1 trn9869 w intercom
2 trn5069 w intercom
2 trn5068

$25 + post  package deal on several
also other msr2000 boards available
all spares appear nos.
mdm ted


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 Looking for the R1 audio board., either TRN
 9688 or TRN 9689 ! 
 
 Ours is acting squirelly., don't really want to
 drag the repeater back here. 
 
 Please reply offlist please with the details
 price etc. 
 
 Tnx 
 
 Jerry VE3 EXT 
 
 


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

2007-10-03 Thread Jimmy Powell
Ok, I did connect the positive and negative. I just didn't mention them. I
programmed it as a clamshell also, forgot to mention that in original post.
I have two radios that have the same problem, my only two of course. These
do have the A7 head.

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

 

I am making the assumption that you have programmed the radio to use a 
clam-shell style control head and NOT an A7 display head.
You were so close. All you needed to do is connect pins 19  4 to +12v. From

the batlabs website:
 If you need to program a Maratrac, and do not have a control head 
 available, all is not lost. What you do need is a control cable from a 
 Maratrac, Mitrek, Mocom 70, or Motrac.

 What you want to do is wire pin 17 and 13 to NEGATIVE, and pin 19 and 4 to

 12VDC. This can be used to power the radio up. Then you just use the 
 programming port in the radio to do the programming.

 This power cable can also be used to power up the radio to use as a 
 transmitter without a control head. Again, you just use the programming 
 port to access the PTT and mic audio pins.

Doing the above method does not allow for channel selection, but if you are 
simply using this as a repeater transmitter, It will get you by.

Good luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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From: jimmylpowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jpowell%40b2xonline.com
com
To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

I am trying to use a UHF Maratrac as a transmitter. I want to leave
 off the control head.
 I can not get it to transmit without the control head. I have jumpered
 pins 17  13 and 19  4. I have checked the fuse on the logic board. I
 have tried the Ptt pin on the 16 pin.

 Are the any other jumpers that may need to be added? Any other ideas?

 Jimmy, KS4KX






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[Repeater-Builder] 156.7 Hz Versatone Module

2007-10-03 Thread John
Hello group,

Does anyone out there have a 156.7 Hz GE Versatone filter module??  The 
GE part number is 19C320291G1-156.7 and it is a small sealed, ceramic, 
plug in board.  If so give me your price or I will swap for an 82.5 Hz 
unit.  Thanks.

73, John, K9KA
  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

2007-10-03 Thread Nate Duehr
skipp025 wrote:
  ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller
 
  I've been talking with a small number of people off the group about
  external repeater controller interface logic lines. In specific how
  many of the external repeater controllers handle ctcss (sub-tone, aka
  PL) detection, logic, control and selection.
 
  To keep things short and simple... let us assume an example of the
  two most common repeater controller layouts regarding ctcss operation.

I'll see your two examples and raise you one, Skipp.  (GRIN!  Or maybe 2...)

Example 3:

At least two controllers now support CTCSS detection and/or generation 
directly in the controller.

The S-Com 7330 (currently in beta test) offers CTCSS encode, but not 
decode:
http://www.scomcontrollers.com/

The PSE-508 series from Pion and Simon Electronics handles both encode 
and decode, but is built to be installed into a specific repeater, the 
GE MASTR II.  (In fact, their latest software rev offers 4 CTCSS tone 
community tone panel-like functionality.)

http://www.pionsimon.com/products.htm

Wasn't there also a Pacific Research controller that did one or both of 
these at one point?  They've always been too expensive for me, but I 
thought one of their boxes did it... maybe... ?

I think putting the encoder/decoder up in the controller is the wave of 
the future... if done right, it should make things a lot simpler in the 
long-run... no fussing with CTCSS boards in any fashion, just bring 
discriminator audio to the controller and find a place to send audio 
back that isn't high-pass filtered... done deal...

The controller folks making the CTCSS circuits have to go out and get an 
edumacation on Reverse-Burst/STE and all that fun and games though, if 
they want to fully emulate the original manufacturer's boards... I know 
the 7330 is going to have the option to do either type of phase shift 
on their encoder, for example.  Not sure if the PS does RB/STE at all.


Example 4:

Go digital, leave the silly CTCSS behind.  The 70's are calling and they 
want their repeater back!


   Heh heh.  :-) :-) :-)  !!!


Nate WY0X


Re: [Repeater-Builder] 156.7 Hz Versatone Module

2007-10-03 Thread Nate Duehr
John wrote:
 Hello group,
 
 Does anyone out there have a 156.7 Hz GE Versatone filter module??  The 
 GE part number is 19C320291G1-156.7 and it is a small sealed, ceramic, 
 plug in board.  If so give me your price or I will swap for an 82.5 Hz 
 unit.  Thanks.
 
 73, John, K9KA

Hall Electronics shows various Verstaones in stock, on their website.

http://www.hallelectronics.com/versa.htm

Nate WY0X



Re: [Repeater-Builder] 156.7 Hz Versatone Module

2007-10-03 Thread Scott Zimmerman
John,

I have several here. $5 shipped. Money order or PayPal to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please add $1 for PayPal.

Thanks,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 156.7 Hz Versatone Module


 Hello group,

 Does anyone out there have a 156.7 Hz GE Versatone filter module??  The
 GE part number is 19C320291G1-156.7 and it is a small sealed, ceramic,
 plug in board.  If so give me your price or I will swap for an 82.5 Hz
 unit.  Thanks.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

2007-10-03 Thread Allan Overcast
The new RLC-DSP404 supports CTCSS and DCS decoding and encoding standard.
   
  Allan Overcast KF7FW
  Link Communications, Inc.
  www.link-comm.com
  

Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  skipp025 wrote:
 ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

 I've been talking with a small number of people off the group about
 external repeater controller interface logic lines. In specific how
 many of the external repeater controllers handle ctcss (sub-tone, aka
 PL) detection, logic, control and selection.

 To keep things short and simple... let us assume an example of the
 two most common repeater controller layouts regarding ctcss operation.

I'll see your two examples and raise you one, Skipp. (GRIN! Or maybe 2...)

Example 3:

At least two controllers now support CTCSS detection and/or generation 
directly in the controller.

The S-Com 7330 (currently in beta test) offers CTCSS encode, but not 
decode:
http://www.scomcontrollers.com/

The PSE-508 series from Pion and Simon Electronics handles both encode 
and decode, but is built to be installed into a specific repeater, the 
GE MASTR II. (In fact, their latest software rev offers 4 CTCSS tone 
community tone panel-like functionality.)

http://www.pionsimon.com/products.htm

Wasn't there also a Pacific Research controller that did one or both of 
these at one point? They've always been too expensive for me, but I 
thought one of their boxes did it... maybe... ?

I think putting the encoder/decoder up in the controller is the wave of 
the future... if done right, it should make things a lot simpler in the 
long-run... no fussing with CTCSS boards in any fashion, just bring 
discriminator audio to the controller and find a place to send audio 
back that isn't high-pass filtered... done deal...

The controller folks making the CTCSS circuits have to go out and get an 
edumacation on Reverse-Burst/STE and all that fun and games though, if 
they want to fully emulate the original manufacturer's boards... I know 
the 7330 is going to have the option to do either type of phase shift 
on their encoder, for example. Not sure if the PS does RB/STE at all.

Example 4:

Go digital, leave the silly CTCSS behind. The 70's are calling and they 
want their repeater back!

Heh heh. :-) :-) :-) !!!

Nate WY0X


 

   
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: msr 2000 audio board needed

2007-10-03 Thread ve3ext
Ted 
  pls. check the number ,you state 9869??., we need TRN 9689?  Did you 
 transpose the number , by chance?

If it's the trn9689., pls. state payee, and shipping to Boston Ma. 

Tnx 

Jerry VE3 EXT


Re: [Repeater-Builder] ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Brown
I use several Zetron Z38A controllers that I obtained surplus on amateur 
repeaters and make use of the CTCSS encode and decode built into this 
controller.  (Vintage 1988)  Even back then the controller provided for 
terminating the transmit CTCSS as soon as the user un-keys.  Or you can program 
it to extend the CTCSS to the end of the tail and add the STE reverse burst. 
This makes in-band links a cinch useing the encode/decode functions in the link 
radio.
   
  I also use a PSE-508 on one of my repeaters and make use of the CTCSS decode. 
 
   
  73 - Jim  W5ZIT

Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  skipp025 wrote:
 ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller

 I've been talking with a small number of people off the group about
 external repeater controller interface logic lines. In specific how
 many of the external repeater controllers handle ctcss (sub-tone, aka
 PL) detection, logic, control and selection.

 To keep things short and simple... let us assume an example of the
 two most common repeater controller layouts regarding ctcss operation.

I'll see your two examples and raise you one, Skipp. (GRIN! Or maybe 2...)

Example 3:

At least two controllers now support CTCSS detection and/or generation 
directly in the controller.

The S-Com 7330 (currently in beta test) offers CTCSS encode, but not 
decode:
http://www.scomcontrollers.com/

The PSE-508 series from Pion and Simon Electronics handles both encode 
and decode, but is built to be installed into a specific repeater, the 
GE MASTR II. (In fact, their latest software rev offers 4 CTCSS tone 
community tone panel-like functionality.)

http://www.pionsimon.com/products.htm

Wasn't there also a Pacific Research controller that did one or both of 
these at one point? They've always been too expensive for me, but I 
thought one of their boxes did it... maybe... ?

I think putting the encoder/decoder up in the controller is the wave of 
the future... if done right, it should make things a lot simpler in the 
long-run... no fussing with CTCSS boards in any fashion, just bring 
discriminator audio to the controller and find a place to send audio 
back that isn't high-pass filtered... done deal...

The controller folks making the CTCSS circuits have to go out and get an 
edumacation on Reverse-Burst/STE and all that fun and games though, if 
they want to fully emulate the original manufacturer's boards... I know 
the 7330 is going to have the option to do either type of phase shift 
on their encoder, for example. Not sure if the PS does RB/STE at all.

Example 4:

Go digital, leave the silly CTCSS behind. The 70's are calling and they 
want their repeater back!

Heh heh. :-) :-) :-) !!!

Nate WY0X


 

   
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