[Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-6030 help needed

2008-02-16 Thread Tweek
Hi,

I've got a Cushman CE-6030 spectrum analyzer that lost the memory 
battery. Now that I've replaced it, the PLL is locking up on random 
garbage. Do any of you have one, or access to a shop manual? I think I 
need to do a processor reset, but can't figure out how to do it. I've 
called everywhere, but most no one services this model any more. 

Any help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely,

Dave; wb4iuy @ teara . org




[Repeater-Builder] Radio coverage prediction software

2008-02-16 Thread jimmyrtle
Has anyone ever used this website for predicting repeater coverage? 
I'm not sure what the dBuV/m values for the coverage display should be. 
Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jim

 



[Repeater-Builder] oops forgot to attach the website

2008-02-16 Thread jimmyrtle
http://lrcov.crc.ca/cov.php?lang=en



[Repeater-Builder] fare thee well, AMPS

2008-02-16 Thread Nate Duehr
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/02/14/Most-analog-cellular-to-fade-away-on-Monday_1.html

Raise a toast to the only cellular phone network that didn't sound  
like crap, this weekend.  :-)

--
Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR FM/AM 1200S

2008-02-16 Thread Cort Buffington
There are a few differences:

That source on the web is probably KG Electronics in Wichita, KS (I  
talked to him this week). There is a small amplifier and piece of coax  
missing also -- the amp isn't required, if it is omitted, then track  
low and track medium are available, but not track high. The coax is no  
biggie, but the problem is the software. Copying the EPROM would be  
considered a copyright violation and it doesn't appear that anyone  
really wants to go there since Aeroflex apparently isn't happy about  
this practice. I checked prices with Aeroflex yesterday -- $800 for  
Option 12, $200 for labor to install, and $250 for a mandatory  
calibration. I'm just a ham doing this for fun. It is a shame I can't  
just get the EPROM and roll with it, but apparently, those are the  
breaks.

Thanks to those who have responded -- I realize this thread is a bit  
off topic.

73 DE N0MJS

On Feb 15, 2008, at 10:19 PM, Ralph Hogan wrote:

 Cort,
 Somewhere on the web I read that the difference between the non- 
 tracking
 versus the tracking 1200S was just a firmware change. The hardware is
 already there. Someone else may comment on this that knows more, but  
 if that
 is the case, you just need a copy of the eproms in the full up  
 option-12
 1200. A friend has the same non-tracking 1200. It would be  
 interesting to
 add the tracking to his setup if it were that easy.
 Ralph W4XE

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cort Buffington
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:01 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] IFR FM/AM 1200S

 Folks,

 I realize this is an insane long shot. I'm not a Ham Radio guy, not a
 commercial shop. I've finally gotten an IFR FM/AM 1200S. It didn't
 have option 12 (Tracking Generator). I'm looking for parts from junked
 1200s to add option 12. IFR/Aeroflex wants WAY more than I can afford
 for this. If anyone has junked or spare 1200S option 12 parts for sale
 or trade, I'd love to talk to you.

 73 DE N0MJS

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 H: +1-785-838-3034
 M: +1-785-865-7206

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Spectra programming problem

2008-02-16 Thread n9wys
D37KGA5JB5FK

Sorry for the long delay on replying - was in the hospital...

Mark - N9WYS
n9wys (at) ameritech (dot) net

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Spectra programming problem

n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm having trouble with programming yet another Spectra.  

Mark,

 What is the model number on your Spectra? 

 I may be able to help.





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Remote control systems

2008-02-16 Thread Paul - KCØHST
Where they are used, what is a typical example of a remote control 
system for a repeater?  In other words, to provide the ability to 
shutdown the repeater remotely, by means other than the input.

I think this has been touched on briefly in the past here but I was 
unable to find anything in the archives.

Specifically, what about the receiver antenna connection?  We have 
access to only one feedline connection.  If the control receiver is in 
the same band as the repeater (VHF in this case) could a divider be 
used off of the duplexer RX port to connect to the remote control RX? 
Would a cavity be needed also?

As for the rest of the system, my inclination would be to use a DTMF 
decoder output to control the PTT line.

Any input is appreciated.


73  Paul - KC0HST



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio coverage prediction software

2008-02-16 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
jimmyrtle wrote:
 Has anyone ever used this website for predicting repeater coverage? 
 I'm not sure what the dBuV/m values for the coverage display should be. 
 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
 Jim
   
Just tried it Jim and it tracks very well with the coverage I get from 
several sites. 

Thanks for posting the info.

Dexter, W4DEX


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote control systems

2008-02-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008, [iso-8859-1] Paul - KCØHST wrote:
 Specifically, what about the receiver antenna connection?  We have 
 access to only one feedline connection.  If the control receiver is in 
 the same band as the repeater (VHF in this case) could a divider be 
 used off of the duplexer RX port to connect to the remote control RX? 
 Would a cavity be needed also?

You can use a wire-line tone remote if you're fortunate enough to have a 
copper loop up to the repeater site from a control site. You can also 
build a -3dB Wilkenson splitter and feed both recievers from the 
RX duplexer output. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote control systems

2008-02-16 Thread Laryn Lohman

 You can use a wire-line tone remote if you're fortunate enough to
have a 
 copper loop up to the repeater site from a control site. 

If I could clarify that statement, wireline in this case can mean a
dialup phone line, internet connection, etc., even if brought to the
site via wi-fi.  Point is, it doesn't have to be a copper loop to be
defined as a wireline.

You can also 
 build a -3dB Wilkenson splitter and feed both recievers from the 
 RX duplexer output. 

Yup that will work.  (I'm using TV-type splitters with good
results-horrors!).  Especially if you are using a preamp.  Split at
the output of it to both receivers.  You will need to take into
account the loss of the duplexer rx side at the aux frequency...

Laryn K8TVZ


 --
 Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
   --rly





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-6030 help needed

2008-02-16 Thread Ralph Messer
Dave  
Get in touch with Cardinal Electronics in Chicago.

They used to be a Cushman service center.

Ralph
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tweekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:09 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-6030 help needed


  Hi,

  I've got a Cushman CE-6030 spectrum analyzer that lost the memory 
  battery. Now that I've replaced it, the PLL is locking up on random 
  garbage. Do any of you have one, or access to a shop manual? I think I 
  need to do a processor reset, but can't figure out how to do it. I've 
  called everywhere, but most no one services this model any more. 

  Any help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely,

  Dave; wb4iuy @ teara . org



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote control systems

2008-02-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008, Laryn Lohman wrote:
KK You can use a wire-line tone remote if you're fortunate enough to
KK have a copper loop up to the repeater site from a control site. 
 
 If I could clarify that statement, wireline in this case can mean a 
 dialup phone line, internet connection, etc., even if brought to the 
 site via wi-fi.  Point is, it doesn't have to be a copper loop to be 
 defined as a wireline.

It's possible, but the method I'm suggesting doesn't cope well over RF 
without some serious hacking:

http://www.telex.com/UserFiles/Downloads/radiodispatch/223C_Manual.pdf

I would shy away from using WiFi for control, however. It is half-duplex 
and may have quite a bit of packet loss. I would strongly recommend 
using a 222MHz or 430-440MHz reciever for a control link. 

KK You can also build a -3dB Wilkenson splitter and feed both recievers 
KK from the RX duplexer output.

 Yup that will work.  (I'm using TV-type splitters with good 
 results-horrors!).  Especially if you are using a preamp.  Split at 
 the output of it to both receivers.  You will need to take into 
 account the loss of the duplexer rx side at the aux frequency...

You're going to see about -3.8dB of loss using a standard splitter, 
regardless of type. You may see more loss using a broadband 75-ohm 
splitter, however you can compensate the loss out of the system by 
re-engineering the splitter (should you choose to build one) or simply 
by retuning the duplexers with a 75-ohm load on the RX port, or using a 
50-ohm to 75-ohm transformer (which can be made out of a coax section). 

The real crux of this is that you have to be certain that your 
receievers really are matched at 50-ohms. Sometimes they don't present a 
50-ohm load. 

It would also be an exceptionally good idea to look at the recieve 
antenna port through a spectrum analyzer to be certain that you don't 
have any strong nearby carriers that would cause a preamp after the 
duplexer to go into compression or limiting. Your users aren't going to 
notice the difference unless there's at least -6dB of difference between 
before and after, so the change only affects fringe area users, and 
possibly HT users. I would skip the preamp.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote control systems

2008-02-16 Thread Paul Plack
Paul,

I've seen the other responses about the Wilkinson divider, but you could also 
use a UHF receiver with a band-splitter on the antenna side of the duplexer, 
which could be implemented with as little as a few tenths of a dB loss. You 
didn't say which VHF band you're on, but a 2M antenna should provide reasonable 
operation on 430-450 MHz for a control receiver, although the radiation pattern 
won't be as clean as it might be on 2M.

Even gain antennas usually work reasonably well at odd multiples of their 
design frequencies, although if you've skimped on coax, loss could be an issue 
at 430 MHz and above.

As for the actual mechanism at the repeater site, I'd recommend using one of 
the integrated controllers with separate inputs for main and control receivers. 
Having a separate box with a separate DTMF controller just to defeat the 
repeater's PTT line creates more failure modes.

Also, the integrated controllers will allow modes in which you can kill just 
the path between the main receiver and the transmitter, and leave the 
transmitter functional for acknowledgement messages, which can sometimes help a 
great deal with troubleshooting.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul - KCØHST 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:18 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Remote control systems


  Where they are used, what is a typical example of a remote control 
  system for a repeater? In other words, to provide the ability to 
  shutdown the repeater remotely, by means other than the input.

  I think this has been touched on briefly in the past here but I was 
  unable to find anything in the archives.

  Specifically, what about the receiver antenna connection? We have 
  access to only one feedline connection. If the control receiver is in 
  the same band as the repeater (VHF in this case) could a divider be 
  used off of the duplexer RX port to connect to the remote control RX? 
  Would a cavity be needed also?

  As for the rest of the system, my inclination would be to use a DTMF 
  decoder output to control the PTT line.

  Any input is appreciated.

  73 Paul - KC0HST



   

[Repeater-Builder] WTB - UHF GM300's, GR300's, GR500's

2008-02-16 Thread Tony L.
WTB - UHF Motorola GM300's. 16 channel only, 438-470 MHz, any power
level. 

Will also consider GR300 and/or GR500 UHF repeater.

Send e-mail off list, please. Thanks.




[Repeater-Builder] RLC-3 Controller FS

2008-02-16 Thread w8rll
Interested in a Link Comm RLC-3?
On ebay  Item number: 260210882385




[Repeater-Builder] Re: linking frequencies?

2008-02-16 Thread Budd
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, let_cyber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is 900 Mhz still useable for repeater linking, or is it so full of 
 garbage that there would be problems? How about 440 Mhz?
 
 Thanks, Al KB2AYU

Returning to the question posed a year ago.  All the replies were about 
linking on 420-440.  I guess avoiding comment about 900 MHz confirms my 
observations about using 900 MHz.  So far I'm underimpressed with 
noise/interference and narrow band audio on 900 MHz.  
Is it possible to have a linked system with good quality signal to 
noise and full audio?  Every conversation I've had was more fatiguing 
that trying to talk on 160M during summer monsoons.  
I keep being told to link two repeaters with 900 MHz.
I don't want to link my 222 MHz repeaters inband.  I've already seen 
all the linking anecdotes about using 420-440...what should I pursue?