[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood RBI-1 Radios For Sale - TM-241 and TM-441

2009-05-12 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Hi All,

Hope you don't mind this For Sale message.

I had a Remote interface using a DHE RBI-1 connected to our Link-Comm RLC-3 
controller.
We decided not to continue with the install and pulled it from operation. Never 
actually opened it to the users.
I have recently parted with the RBI-1 interface and now have the 2x radios, 
Kenwood TM-241(VHF) and TM-441(UHF) that were being used, now surplus to needs.
These radios have had little use and are still in very good condition. I have 
checked these recently and are still working fine, power is still 5,10 and 
50/45 watts.
Condition is in good condition, I can supply photos to those of you interested.
These radio have had a couple of mods done to them.
1. They have been frequency expanded
2. I removed the SO-239 sockets and replaced them with bulkhead BNC connectors. 
These gave us a fix connector for extra support.

They will be sent in the orignal boxes with manual and non-DTMF mics (came with 
them).

The only missing item is the power cable. I had these connected in the repeater 
system and they are missing. I have included the power connector to teh radio, 
will only need the fuses put in line.
Any further questions would be best sent direct to me.

I will ship these to the US if anyone wishes. Please contact me directly at 
sparczn(No-Spam)@gmail.com

Of course price US$150.00 plus US$25 for ship each

Thanks
Kevin.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-2001A Manual(s) needed!

2009-05-12 Thread Richard Deering
Please contct me at wb9...@sbcglobal net 

--- On Mon, 5/11/09, w1ik w...@arrl.net wrote:

From: w1ik w...@arrl.net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R-2001A Manual(s) needed!
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 5:36 PM








I am in need of service and operating manuals for the R-2001A Communications 
System Analyzer. Can you please advise as to how I might obtain these 
publications? Thank you!

---Jim.
















Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF THREAD

2009-05-12 Thread Kevin Custer
Spencer R. Peterson wrote:
 Why are you banning me from joining the coordination group? (Banned by 
 Owner). 


Why are you questioning my list ownership skills and duties?

Why are you cross posting this crap to another list?

Are your questions answered?

Now, you are banned from this list as well.

Go away.  END OF THREAD!

Kevin Custer - List Owner


[Repeater-Builder] Adding Extra Cavities to Duplexer

2009-05-12 Thread David Struebel
I have a Phelps Dodge 506-1 four cavity duplexer. Just recently picked up two
additional cavities from someone who was parting out his duplexer... all 
cavities
are BP/BR... Would like to add these to the duplexer to get additional 
isolation.
The original duplexer is spec'd at 80 dB isolation... What do you think I can 
get with the two
additional cans?  I realize the insertion loss will be higher.. Any idea how 
much?
The cabling between the cans is still 1/4 wavelength in coax, right?? since I 
will have to add some cabling...I have seen some discussion in the duplexer 
info on the site
about maybe using a diffrent length cable when adding more cavities... Can 
anyone comment on
all this?


Dave WB2FTX

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[Repeater-Builder] Need MSR2000 PL Reeds or alternate suggestions

2009-05-12 Thread kt...@ameritech.net
Hello Everyone,
 I'm in need of two 97.4Hz PL reeds for an MSR2000 using the TLN5073A duplex 
card (one TX and one RX). I haven't been able to located this particular tone 
elsewhere so maybe someone here could help.
 Does anyone think sticking with used reeds is still acceptable for redeployed 
commercial uses (SKYWARN coordination machine on 452Mhz), or should I look at 
new Comm-Spec encode/decode boards? 

Thanks,
Tony



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding Extra Cavities to Duplexer

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Mullarkey
You should have no problem obtaining 100DB 

 

Mike

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-954-9695 Home

303-954-9693 Home Office  Fax

303-718-8052 Cellular

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Struebel
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:39 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Adding Extra Cavities to Duplexer

 






I have a Phelps Dodge 506-1 four cavity duplexer. Just recently picked up
two

additional cavities from someone who was parting out his duplexer... all
cavities

are BP/BR... Would like to add these to the duplexer to get additional
isolation.

The original duplexer is spec'd at 80 dB isolation... What do you think I
can get with the two

additional cans?  I realize the insertion loss will be higher.. Any idea how
much?

The cabling between the cans is still 1/4 wavelength in coax, right?? since
I 

will have to add some cabling...I have seen some discussion in the duplexer
info on the site

about maybe using a diffrent length cable when adding more cavities... Can
anyone comment on

all this?

 

 

Dave WB2FTX





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need MSR2000 PL Reeds or alternate suggestions

2009-05-12 Thread skipp025
Hi Tony, 

I have seen a situation where a section of thin aluminum plate 
was cut to fit on/over the original PL module. A Comm Spec 
TS-32 was placed on the Aluminum mount/plate with double sided 
tape and parallel interfaced with the original MSR-2000 PL 
module. The plate stood off from the MSR-2000 PL Module PC 
Board with classic threaded standoffs. Probably the 3/8 or 
1/4 inch length 4-40 or 6-32 size were used. 

Working from memory... I believe the original circuit only 
used the Decoder section (portion) of the TS-32 but I'm sure 
it wouldn't be rocket science to make encoder work (taking 
the encoder gate/mute on/of operation into consideration) on 
more than one CTCSS encoded tone. 

One might suggest a couple of contact Emails to the remaining 
Surplus Radio Dealers... I'd contact Ted at MDM and go from 
there... also posting a want on various yahoo radio groups like 
this one. 

cheers, 
skipp 

 kt...@... kt...@... wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
  I'm in need of two 97.4Hz PL reeds for an MSR2000 using the TLN5073A duplex 
 card (one TX and one RX). I haven't been able to located this particular tone 
 elsewhere so maybe someone here could help.
  Does anyone think sticking with used reeds is still acceptable for 
 redeployed commercial uses (SKYWARN coordination machine on 452Mhz), or 
 should I look at new Comm-Spec encode/decode boards? 
 
 Thanks,
 Tony





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF THREAD

2009-05-12 Thread Wesley Bazell
Good for You kevin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Custer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF THREAD





  Spencer R. Peterson wrote:
   Why are you banning me from joining the coordination group? (Banned by 
Owner). 

  Why are you questioning my list ownership skills and duties?

  Why are you cross posting this crap to another list?

  Are your questions answered?

  Now, you are banned from this list as well.

  Go away. END OF THREAD!

  Kevin Custer - List Owner


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF THREAD

2009-05-12 Thread Joe Serocki
KEVIN, YOU ROCK! I get enough crap email already :)

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Wesley Bazell wesley...@verizon.netwrote:



  *Good for You kevin*

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:14 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF
 THREAD

  Spencer R. Peterson wrote:
  Why are you banning me from joining the coordination group? (Banned by
 Owner).

 Why are you questioning my list ownership skills and duties?

 Why are you cross posting this crap to another list?

 Are your questions answered?

 Now, you are banned from this list as well.

 Go away. END OF THREAD!

 Kevin Custer - List Owner

  



[Repeater-Builder] Re: A Home Brew 224 MHz Repeater Project. - Part 4 (The RF Amplifier)

2009-05-12 Thread skipp025
A Home Brew 224 MHz Repeater Project.
May 2009
Part 4 – The RF Amplifier  
First Post May 2, Second Post May 6 - Third Post May 8, This 
Post May 12, 2009 

Moving right along... 

This text is Part 4 of a description of a recently completed 
224 MHz Repeater Project.  Pictures of the completed repeater 
project reside in the group photos section.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/1157128983/pic/list

The RF Amplifier choice was based on the Hamtronics T301-6 exciter 
(transmitter) RF Power (output) drive level, which is only about 1.75 
watts real world. In reality I would expect the 224 MHz Hamtronics 
Exciter to output minimum 1.5 watts to a maximum of just under 2.0 
watts of RF. I'm happy to report the T301-6 Exciter makes the 
manufactures rated power level. For lock to talk 100% duty cycle 
repeater operation I turned down the exciter RF output to about 
1.75 watt output per the manufactures recommendation. 

I'm guilty of using an HT RF Amplifier in this project. An HT 
Amplifier is normally used to boost the power level of portable 
HT (aka hand held) radios. The classic entry level HT Amplifier 
is rated for input drive levels of 1 to 5 watts for a corresponding 
output of 8 to 25 watts of course depending on a number of 
situation variables. 

And of course the HT Amplifier has antenna relay switching based 
on a detected input RF drive signal. One could easily write an entire 
article about the pros and cons of using an amplifier with switching 
relays installed and used but at this time I'm going to avoid doing 
so... 

HT Amplifiers are/were made by MFJ, RF Concepts, KLM, Henry 
Radio and a number of other manufactures. The most common 1-5 in, 
8-25 out amplifier models are so similar in most all respects so they 
easily interchange. In this example I've used an RF Concepts brand 
but could have easily used an almost exact MFJ Amplifier for pretty 
much the same results. 

A few blanket statements for you technical hounds. 

The TR Relay is rated in number of operations before estimated 
failure and I would not expect the normal use of the machine to 
achieve that number for quite a time (years/decades?). 

In a solar power only situations the RF Amplifier is easily 
disabled to conserve site energy. 

One could hard switch the TR Relay with external logic, which would 
avoid hot switching the exciter. Hot switching is the load or lack 
there of presented to the driving device (the exciter) while the TR 
Relay changed the RF Path to the Amplifier input. Hot switching is 
not an every day in your face problem for most people but you should 
be aware of it. 

Another option would be to wire directly to the Amplifiers RF 
Section(s) bypassing the internal TR Relay. 

With reasonable operation no blower or fan was used in regards 
to heat sink temperature... however, a small blower (not fan) would 
be advisable. Decent blower time on/off management is possible 
with many of the more flexible repeater controllers. One could 
also construct and interface a relatively simple blower timer 
on/off circuit. Please keep in mind the blower doesn't have to 
operate with every transmission. As a personal preference I choose 
to toggle the blower on after x-amount of transmit time has occurred 
within x-minutes of operation. Blower on-time management keeps 
me from having to listen to blowers winding up every transmission, 
saves energy and helps to extend the blowers usable life span. I'm 
not a fan of leaving blowers (and fans) running 24/7. 

If you plan to use the repeater for linking, IRLP, Echo-link or 
similar a blower is smart money well spent. A 30 second time out 
timer also trains the lock to talk type people to listen more often 
(a good thing). 

The TR Relay doesn't chatter on and off with loose RF coming back 
down the Transmitter feed (coax) line because a circulator is installed.

So the Hamtronics Exciter RF Output is routed direct to the 
amplifiers input via some decent mini Teflon type coax. In a 
previous post I mentioned how surprised I was in regards to the 
power (signal) lost in even very short sections of regular RG-58 
coax so don't cheat yourself by using the wrong type of coax 
(trying to save a buck). 

The supply voltage is provided via a fuse block assembly, which 
will be detailed in the final Part 5 article (text). Just for 
trivial I'll say I leave the amplifiers front panel control 
switch set for SSB operation, which only delays the relay UN-key 
hang time (of the amplifier, not the repeater). No actual mode 
change is done internal to the amplifier via the FM/SSB front 
panel switch. 

The Amplifier output is about 20.5 watts with 1.75 watts drive, 
which is just fine for this project. The repeater site antenna 
combiner systems eats almost half of the output power so we see 
about 12 watts heading to the site master transmit antenna. 

Part 5 will be the wrap up text. 

Cheers,

skipp
skipp025 at yahoo.com




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF THREAD

2009-05-12 Thread Lee Pennington
Thanks, Kevin

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Wesley Bazell wesley...@verizon.netwrote:



  *Good for You kevin*

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:14 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Why Are You Banning Users - END OF
 THREAD

  Spencer R. Peterson wrote:
  Why are you banning me from joining the coordination group? (Banned by
 Owner).

 Why are you questioning my list ownership skills and duties?

 Why are you cross posting this crap to another list?

 Are your questions answered?

 Now, you are banned from this list as well.

 Go away. END OF THREAD!

 Kevin Custer - List Owner

  




-- 
Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.


[Repeater-Builder] Time for that Semi Annual Bath (I mean Dayton is almost here!)

2009-05-12 Thread skipp025
Re: It's almost time for that Semi Annual Bath 

(I mean Dayton is almost here!) 

The sights, sounds and smells of Dayton 2009 are 
coming around the bend. 

Those of us from the West (left) Coast are eagerly 
eyeballing the weather reports to see if our plane 
trips will cluster %*$ through our connecting 
airports. 

What's the weekend going to be like in Dayton? One 
year it rained almost the entire weekend... 

The Friday night VHF (and above) Weak (and strong) 
signal Dinner (at the Holiday Inn) is not on this 
year so a number of us are detouring over to the 
Amstat banquet. 

Will you be there..? and are you bringing your yellow 
plastic safety helmet with the mini tower and yagi 
beam (antenna) atop? 

:-)

s. 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] (anderson power poles revisited)

2009-05-12 Thread wd8chl
Chuck Kelsey wrote:
 I've had them unplug easily. Had another that if you wiggled it, it would 
 make and break contact. I solder all mine, taking care not to get solder on 
 the contact itself.
 
 I went to them after having trouble with some heavy-duty Molex connectors 
 ( one contact got hot and discolored the shell) and, no, I was not exceeding 
 the current carrying capacity of the connector.
 
 As far as using the smaller PowerPoles as a standard to insure multiple 
 operators radios being compatible with each other, I find a connector that 
 can be configured multiple ways (like the PowerPole can) to be a poor choice 
 for that purpose.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
 

I was always told the standard was supposed to be the Ford 
connector, as used on Maxtracs, etc. Most everything I have has those.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] 450 Micor Repeator Amp

2009-05-12 Thread wd8chl
k0jxi wrote:
 I am sure this has been asked before but I could not find any
 comprehensive links.
 
 Will the Motorola 450 to 470 75 watt Micor Repeater Amp TLE1713A work
 safely in the ham band on TX of 444.900. Most of my experience is
 with GE and not Motorola.
 
 Appreciate any advice.
 
 Dale, K0JXI

Yes. Check out the Repeater-Builder web page for instructions on how to 
tune the stages in front of it for best efficiency.

I retuned one I will be putting in service soon per that page. With a 
test element at 444.525, I have 2.2 W from the low-level amp output (BNC 
on the front), and it loafs at 70W. If I crank the output adjust pot up 
all the way, it does 112W! (DON'T run it that way tho-it WILL burn up!)

Jim
WD8CHL


[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 UHF Repeater System for Sale

2009-05-12 Thread Anthony Mikulastik
I have a Kenwood TKR-850 UHF Repeater System that is currently in use that will 
be available for sale in a few days.  It has a set of full size DB Products 
duplexers which fit in a 19 inch rack as does the repeater.  The repeater 
system has been in service for 5 years with no down time.  Programming cable 
and software is also available.  This is a current production uhf repeater 
system which will work in GMRS, Amateur, and Business bands.  The repeater is 
currently in Amateur operation but can be easily retuned by any 2-way shop to 
your frequency or I can get it tuned to your frequency at our local shop.

Plug and play system with switching power supply shipped in Continental US is 
$1350.   Add $50 if I have the local shop program and tune duplexers.  Call 
Anthony at 254-493-8595.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need MSR2000 PL Reeds or alternate suggestions

2009-05-12 Thread wd8chl
kt...@ameritech.net wrote:
 Hello Everyone, I'm in need of two 97.4Hz PL reeds for an MSR2000
 using the TLN5073A duplex card (one TX and one RX). I haven't been
 able to located this particular tone elsewhere so maybe someone here
 could help. Does anyone think sticking with used reeds is still
 acceptable for redeployed commercial uses (SKYWARN coordination
 machine on 452Mhz), or should I look at new Comm-Spec encode/decode
 boards?
 
 Thanks, Tony
 

452MHz? Just fyi-you do know that it will need to be narrowbanded by the 
end of 2012, right?


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Time for that Semi Annual Bath (I mean Dayton is almost here!)

2009-05-12 Thread Nate Duehr

On Tue, 12 May 2009 17:12:48 -, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com
said:
 Re: It's almost time for that Semi Annual Bath 
 
 (I mean Dayton is almost here!) 
 
 The sights, sounds and smells of Dayton 2009 are 
 coming around the bend. 

I'm thinking there's a reason no one ever invented Smell-o-Vision.  :-)

 Those of us from the West (left) Coast are eagerly 
 eyeballing the weather reports to see if our plane 
 trips will cluster %*$ through our connecting 
 airports. 

We need to start a Dayton Airlift with private aircraft.  A hell of a
lot more fun, and zero hub and spoke horse-hockey.  :-)  Of course, if
you're one of those folks that adds to the Dayton smell... you might be
banned from boarding!  (GRIN!)

 Will you be there..? and are you bringing your yellow 
 plastic safety helmet with the mini tower and yagi 
 beam (antenna) atop? 

Not going to make it this year.  

I'll have to live vicariously through Gary KN4AQ's excellent videos. 
http://www.arvideonews.com/

Maybe I can convince him to take a shot of the braut stand, just so I
feel like I am really there... 

Will be up at the ARRL Rocky Mtn Region Convention just shortly after
Dayton, though... if anyone's bored... come on up.  Rocky Mtn National
Park should be gorgeous this time of year. 
http://www.hamconcolorado.org

Nate WY0X


--
  Nate Duehr
  n...@natetech.com



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Time for that Semi Annual Bath (I mean Dayton is almost here!)

2009-05-12 Thread Scott Zimmerman
As in years past RB will NOT be setup in the tailgating area. (I know, 
much to everyone's great dismay)

My wife Elisha and I WILL be at the show on Friday  - all day. I'd love 
to say what frequency you might find me on, but if things go like last 
year, I won't even have a radio on me!! For those that REALLY want to 
get in touch with me, E-mail me privately and I'll give you my cell #. 
(Did I *REALLY* say that??)

We do have plans to stop by Jeff's lounge and hang out for at least a 
few minuites. (For those that don't know, Jeff's spaces have become the 
Un-Official RB list hangout whilst at Hamvention)

If anyone is willing, we can *TRY* to coordinate some type of dinner on 
Friday night for list members going to the show. WARNING: It may be a 
dinner at Bob Evan's in Fairborn or something, but  If you're 
interested, e-mail me. I'll see what kind of response I get and go from 
there. Most unfortunately, I don't think I can convince Kevin to make 
the 6hr. drive to join us. :(

Be sure and keep an eye open for anyone in a RB hat. (Those that own one 
should sport them proudly or be summarily shamed into submission) I will 
also, more than likely, have a RB shirt on, but it probably won't be 
visible due to the Parka I'll be wearing. (Reminder to get RB logo'd 
parka for next year!!)

Skipp: Sorry, but if I can't remember a simple radio, how am I supposed 
to remember my helmet tower??

I'm sure a good time will be had by all - at least until the brats kick in!!

See you all at the show,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


skipp025 wrote:
 Re: It's almost time for that Semi Annual Bath 
 
 (I mean Dayton is almost here!) 
 
 The sights, sounds and smells of Dayton 2009 are 
 coming around the bend. 
 
 Those of us from the West (left) Coast are eagerly 
 eyeballing the weather reports to see if our plane 
 trips will cluster %*$ through our connecting 
 airports. 
 
 What's the weekend going to be like in Dayton? One 
 year it rained almost the entire weekend... 
 
 The Friday night VHF (and above) Weak (and strong) 
 signal Dinner (at the Holiday Inn) is not on this 
 year so a number of us are detouring over to the 
 Amstat banquet. 
 
 Will you be there..? and are you bringing your yellow 
 plastic safety helmet with the mini tower and yagi 
 beam (antenna) atop? 
 
 :-)
 
 s. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need MSR2000 PL Reeds or alternate suggestions

2009-05-12 Thread George Henry

Communications Specialists has instructions on their web site for interfacing 
their TP3200 community tone panel to the MSR2000...  the same connection points 
on the MSR2K should work for the TS-64, as well.

http://www.com-spec.com/insheet/msr2k.pdf

73,

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413





From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:09:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need MSR2000 PL Reeds or alternate suggestions





Hi Tony, 

I have seen a situation where a section of thin aluminum plate 
was cut to fit on/over the original PL module. A Comm Spec 
TS-32 was placed on the Aluminum mount/plate with double sided 
tape and parallel interfaced with the original MSR-2000 PL 
module. The plate stood off from the MSR-2000 PL Module PC 
Board with classic threaded standoffs. Probably the 3/8 or 
1/4 inch length 4-40 or 6-32 size were used. 

Working from memory... I believe the original circuit only 
used the Decoder section (portion) of the TS-32 but I'm sure 
it wouldn't be rocket science to make encoder work (taking 
the encoder gate/mute on/of operation into consideration) on 
more than one CTCSS encoded tone. 

One might suggest a couple of contact Emails to the remaining 
Surplus Radio Dealers... I'd contact Ted at MDM and go from 
there... also posting a want on various yahoo radio groups like 
this one. 

cheers, 
skipp 

 kt...@... kt...@... wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 I'm in need of two 97.4Hz PL reeds for an MSR2000 using the TLN5073A duplex 
 card (one TX and one RX). I haven't been able to located this particular tone 
 elsewhere so maybe someone here could help.
 Does anyone think sticking with used reeds is still acceptable for redeployed 
 commercial uses (SKYWARN coordination machine on 452Mhz), or should I look at 
 new Comm-Spec encode/decode boards? 
 
 Thanks,
 Tony