[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Dan Hancock 
Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the Hustler Spirit 
series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters without the "charging you for 
the name" price.
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit.html

Dan N8DJP
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>

> 
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800 
> bucks to buy one.


You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics, Joliet, IL.  
800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other than being a very satisfied 
customer.

Laryn K8TVZ

[Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Problem

2009-10-12 Thread terry dalpoas 
I have a TS-64 on my GE Mastr II UHF amateur repeater along with a Link RLC-1 
controller.  The RLC-1 requires active low to represent CTCSS.  I have 
installed JP7 on the TS-64 to make the RX MUTE (white) wire go low upon decode. 
 I get nothing.  I have already tested the PL input on the RLC-1, functions as 
normal.  I placed a voltmeter across +10V and RX MUTE.  When not decoding, 
there is no voltage (normal).  When decoding, the RX MUTE will only work 
intermittently (I only get a +10V meter reading sometimes).  The previous owner 
of this repeater (and tone boards), had all of this hooked to a CAT-1000 
controller, with the PL decode set active high (with a 2.2k pull up resistor 
between +10V and RX MUTE, worked fine).  I have tried to test the TS-64 set up 
for active high (added pullup resistor).  With the voltmeter across RX MUTE and 
GROUND, I get 9.97V on no signal.  When receiving a signal, the voltage rises 
to 10.07V, whether the signal is generating
 CTCSS or not.  The black, orange (PTT), and violet (mic hang up) wires are all 
grounded on the '64.  I am thinking there may be a problem with the TS-64.  Any 
advise would be appreciated.

Terry, KM5UQ

 Terry Dalpoas
Owner
Oklahoma Communications
(918) 470-6358

[Repeater-Builder] Vertex service manuals

2009-10-12 Thread kerinvale 
Hi guys .Where can I download vertex service manuals .I am chasing a vx2200
because I have to adapt a ear muff headset to the radio.any suggestions for
adapting /powering the mic (electret mic ) to the radio
 
 
Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
Ph 0749922449 or 0409159932 or 0749922574
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Bill Hudson 
After installing some Hustler Spirit HD antennas in snow and ice conditions,
and visiting the site to see several inches of radial ice everywhere, I
became a dealer for them.  

 

They are built after the order to frequency.  I ordered a 420 9 dB HD Omni,
and a 440 9 dB Omni, and the 420 antenna was physically longer when compared
side by side.  Makes sense, but it's nice they are not using a one size fits
all fiberglass case.  

 

I won't have to be worrying about replacing the Spirit Antennas for a long
time, while I enjoy good coverage from the antennas.  I have a statement
that I always share:  "When you buy quality, it only hurts once."

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hancock
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:16 AM
To: repeater builders
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  


Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the Hustler
Spirit series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters without the
"charging you for the name" price.
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit.html

Dan N8DJP

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>

> 
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800
bucks to buy one.


You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics, Joliet, IL.
800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other than being a very
satisfied customer.

Laryn K8TVZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC

2009-10-12 Thread MCH 
Well, when *I* was referring to channels, I was talking about the fact 
that he mentioned 4 different 6M frequencies he was using.

There were only 4 frequencies - not 5 as I said before. (my mistake)

Joe M.

George Henry wrote:
> No, the number of "channels" in an RC system refers to controlled functions 
> of the aircraft, not RF channels.  For example, a plane with rudder, 
> elevator, ailerons, throttle, and retractable landing gear would need 5 
> "channels."  The system still only occupies ONE RF channel.
> 
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC
> 
> 
> So he is looking at $1000, as he has 5 channels/aircraft.
> 
> Does that include the TX and RX units?
> 
> Joe M.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Kris Kirby 
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Jacob Suter wrote:
> I thought the prefered poor-man's repeater antenna was a J-pole? 

Single folded dipole IMO. 
 
> Out of curiosity - are the 'square dipole' (or 'gapped loop' or whatever 
> they want to call them) antennas usable for repeater use?   Example:  
> http://www.hamuniverse.com/loop.htm

Add an 'l' on the end of that.

> I've seen a 'hamsexy' Explorer around these parts (East Texas) with a 
> stack of these on the roof at various frequencies.  I personally dislike 
> vertical antennas on cars (at best they generate wind noise, at worst 
> they hit things and get bent/broken) these look like a decent option for 
> truck/SUV use, assuming the other side is hpol too or you're willing to 
> put up with the x-pol losses.

It's horizontal-only and you've just found one of the few operators who 
probably works CW or SSB mobile. M-squared makes several bands of these.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC

2009-10-12 Thread Kris Kirby 
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Jeff DePolo wrote:
> CB is substantially wider :-)

My point exactly. ;-)
 
> > Assuming a 100W transmitter, 1dB of cable losses and 5.16dBi (3dB) of 
> > antenna gain, at 20 miles there is -32.442dB of path loss.
> 
> Methinks there's some disinformation there, better check your path-loss
> math.

I think the calculator was in meters instead of miles:

20 miles at 50MHz is 96.58 db of loss, for a recieved signal strength of 
-53dBm, or ~452 uV. 

Which probably isn't strong enough to amount to any interference, so 
matter how wide the reciever is.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC

2009-10-12 Thread Jacob Suter 
Seems rather insane to feel the need to operate an RC Airplane at 
frequencies that are known for ducting/skipping and actually being 
somewhat functional in NLOS conditions - it screams "I want to be 
interfered with!".  2390-2400 MHz seems about the right place to run an 
RC airplane thats not actually a "drone" - and the spectrum is 
practically worthless for anything else except linking LOS repeaters and 
data work and even then its fairly rare.

JS


Chris Curtis wrote:
>  
>
> It's hard sometimes to "work out" differences between hams when 
> neither ham is "fully versed" in the other's chosen activity.
>
> My first exposure to "real RC" was my brother back in the 70s. he had 
> an FCC license just for RC.
> He saved up to be able to "carry rocks in his pocket".
>
> Any time he went to a gathering of other RC guys, they would have to 
> coordinate their "colors".
> The little colored streamers hanging off their transmitters to let 
> each other know what frequency they were on.
>
> So having multiple tx frequency crystals was and is common.
>
> Also, a LOT of rx units in the RC craft are synthesized and "broad as 
> a barn door".
> Only the TX is fairly tight and stable. This causes the interference 
> problem but keeps the cost of swapping out frequencies down.
>
> So the cost of changing the operational freq is minimal. The RC guy 
> could call up bomar and get 4 new frequencies for his TX for about the 
> minimum order requirement.
> Only 1 at a time is needed of course but would give some latitude.
>
> Now, as for changing bands altogether.
>
> I certainly don't discredit the benefits of moving to a newer technology.
>
> However, I can see the RC guy give you a funny look and say:
>
> "how about YOU move up above 2gHz and see how you like it!"
>
> 6m RC is the coolest and can certainly play well in the shadow of a 6m 
> repeater.
>
> 53.45/51.75 is my machine.
>
> Good luck on elmering each other, could be a fun learning experience.
>
> Chris
> Kb0wlf
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> > > models,
> > > > since they can all operate at the same time with the spread
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Nate Duehr 
You all (well, everyone who's been here a while) know my general
loathing for fiberglass stick antennas, since our lightning here
turns them into pretty white bits of fiberglass blowing around
the top of the mountain by the time you realize something's wrong
with the repeater...

But... after all the good comments about the Hustler Spirit
antennas, if I *had* to use a fiberglass stick, it'd be first in
line in the spreadsheet for cost/benefit analysis!  :-)

Otherwise, 99.9% of the time, it's Sinclair folded dipole arrays
for me.  The heavy-duty ones, not the wimpy little ones.  (GRIN!)

And to the guy who just showed up saying he has "always wanted to
build a repeater"... yeah, me too... so I started volunteering
with a group that needed some help years ago, and now I have
repeaters coming out my ears.

No need to build your own... in most areas there's PLENTY of
repeaters that aren't performing up to spec, and/or need some
TLC.  Getting involved is step one, step two is shelling out real
money for your own test gear, and once you have that... you're
"sucked in" forever.  And not just for your machines, it's like
the bumper sticker you see on pickup trucks...

"Yes, this is my pickup truck.  No I won't help you move."  LOL!

Can change that to...

"Yes, this is my service monitor.  No I won't help you tune your
duplexer."  Haha... of course, reality is... you will.  'Cause
you're a "good ham"... just make 'em bring beer over... and save
the beer for AFTER you've done the tuning...

--
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  n...@natetech.com


On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04 -0700, "Bill Hudson"
 wrote:



After installing some Hustler Spirit HD antennas in snow and ice
conditions, and visiting the site to see several inches of radial
ice everywhere, I became a dealer for them.


They are built after the order to frequency.  I ordered a 420 9
dB HD Omni, and a 440 9 dB Omni, and the 420 antenna was
physically longer when compared side by side.  Makes sense, but
it’s nice they are not using a one size fits all fiberglass
case.


I won’t have to be worrying about replacing the Spirit Antennas
for a long time, while I enjoy good coverage from the antennas.
I have a statement that I always share:  “When you buy quality,
it only hurts once.”


Bill Hudson

W6CBS





From: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.
com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Hancock
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:16 AM
To: repeater builders
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question



Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the
Hustler Spirit series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters
without the "charging you for the name" price.
http://www.new-
tronics.com/main/html/
base_spirit.html
Dan N8DJP

--- In repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.
com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>
>
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do
not have 800 bucks to buy one.
You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics,
Joliet, IL.  800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other
than being a very satisfied customer.
Laryn K8TVZ





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Andrew Seybold 
Nate—et al,

 

Fortunately on the left coast we don’t really have a lightening problem AND 
since our sites are all within view of the ocean, I don’t do anything but 
fiberglass OR coated folding dipoles, aluminum does not like salt air at all.

 

And as Nate says—all you have to do is look around—and you will end up on a 
repeater committee or team—it started for me in the late 1960’s when we founded 
the Northeast FM Repeater Assn, and then Phila’s Para, then on to Cincy, and 
the same thing, make friends, show you know a little, have a Cushman and are 
you ever popular.

Now on the left coast, this has happened twice—once near San Jose and now in 
Santa Barbara—LOTS of repeaters, very few folks who know how to make them talk 
and keep them talking—it is a lot of fun, and rewarding, and yes it costs money 
out of my own pocket here and there but that is what I like to do—build em and 
keep em running—let someone else use them!

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  

You all (well, everyone who's been here a while) know my general loathing for 
fiberglass stick antennas, since our lightning here turns them into pretty 
white bits of fiberglass blowing around the top of the mountain by the time you 
realize something's wrong with the repeater...

 

But... after all the good comments about the Hustler Spirit antennas, if I 
*had* to use a fiberglass stick, it'd be first in line in the spreadsheet for 
cost/benefit analysis!  :-)

 

Otherwise, 99.9% of the time, it's Sinclair folded dipole arrays for me.  The 
heavy-duty ones, not the wimpy little ones.  (GRIN!)

 

And to the guy who just showed up saying he has "always wanted to build a 
repeater"... yeah, me too... so I started volunteering with a group that needed 
some help years ago, and now I have repeaters coming out my ears.  

 

No need to build your own... in most areas there's PLENTY of repeaters that 
aren't performing up to spec, and/or need some TLC.  Getting involved is step 
one, step two is shelling out real money for your own test gear, and once you 
have that... you're "sucked in" forever.  And not just for your machines, it's 
like the bumper sticker you see on pickup trucks...

 

"Yes, this is my pickup truck.  No I won't help you move."  LOL! 

 

Can change that to... 

 

"Yes, this is my service monitor.  No I won't help you tune your duplexer."  
Haha... of course, reality is... you will.  'Cause you're a "good ham"... just 
make 'em bring beer over... and save the beer for AFTER you've done the 
tuning... 

 

 
--
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  n...@natetech.com

 

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04 -0700, "Bill Hudson"  wrote:

  

 

After installing some Hustler Spirit HD antennas in snow and ice 
conditions, and visiting the site to see several inches of radial ice 
everywhere, I became a dealer for them.  

 

They are built after the order to frequency.  I ordered a 420 9 dB HD 
Omni, and a 440 9 dB Omni, and the 420 antenna was physically longer when 
compared side by side.  Makes sense, but it’s nice they are not using a one 
size fits all fiberglass case.  

 

I won’t have to be worrying about replacing the Spirit Antennas for a 
long time, while I enjoy good coverage from the antennas.  I have a statement 
that I always share:  “When you buy quality, it only hurts once.”

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hancock
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:16 AM
To: repeater builders
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  

Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the Hustler Spirit 
series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters without the "charging you for 
the name" price.
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit.html

Dan N8DJP

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>

> 
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800 
> bucks to buy one.


You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics, Joliet, IL.  
800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other than being a very satisfied 
customer.

Laryn K8TVZ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Mark 
I’d like to chime in here as well…

 

I also agree that your first venture into repeaters should be as an assistant 
Trustee (or something similar) for your local ham club.  Doing this will help 
you gain necessary experience and knowledge before you try to venture on your 
own.  It will also allow you time to put together some of the test instruments 
necessary for building and testing repeaters

 

This is how I got started, but ended up getting a baptism of fire when the 
repeater went down and no one else was available to assist me.  In the end, I 
wound up being the primary Trustee.  As I learned how to repair and improve the 
repeater, I gained valuable knowledge which allowed me to try to “roll my own” 
for 900 MHz.  The homebrew was on the air for nearly 2 years before I acquired 
a commercial repeater station to replace it with.  The homebrew is still in the 
shack, and I have plans to put it back on the air in the future, but no time 
schedule has been set.

 

Take your time – you have a lifetime of fun (and accompanying headaches) ahead 
of you!

 

Mark – N9WYS

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold



Nate—et al,

 

Fortunately on the left coast we don’t really have a lightening problem AND 
since our sites are all within view of the ocean, I don’t do anything but 
fiberglass OR coated folding dipoles, aluminum does not like salt air at all.

 

And as Nate says—all you have to do is look around—and you will end up on a 
repeater committee or team—it started for me in the late 1960’s when we founded 
the Northeast FM Repeater Assn, and then Phila’s Para, then on to Cincy, and 
the same thing, make friends, show you know a little, have a Cushman and are 
you ever popular.

Now on the left coast, this has happened twice—once near San Jose and now in 
Santa Barbara—LOTS of repeaters, very few folks who know how to make them talk 
and keep them talking—it is a lot of fun, and rewarding, and yes it costs money 
out of my own pocket here and there but that is what I like to do—build em and 
keep em running—let someone else use them!

 

Andy W6AMS

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Bill Hudson 
 

Hey - and everybody should be nice to Nate today - it's his birthday today -
Monday October 12, 2009

 

Bill Hudson

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  

You all (well, everyone who's been here a while) know my general loathing
for fiberglass stick antennas, since our lightning here turns them into
pretty white bits of fiberglass blowing around the top of the mountain by
the time you realize something's wrong with the repeater...

 

But... after all the good comments about the Hustler Spirit antennas, if I
*had* to use a fiberglass stick, it'd be first in line in the spreadsheet
for cost/benefit analysis!  :-)

 

Otherwise, 99.9% of the time, it's Sinclair folded dipole arrays for me.
The heavy-duty ones, not the wimpy little ones.  (GRIN!)

 

And to the guy who just showed up saying he has "always wanted to build a
repeater"... yeah, me too... so I started volunteering with a group that
needed some help years ago, and now I have repeaters coming out my ears.  

 

No need to build your own... in most areas there's PLENTY of repeaters that
aren't performing up to spec, and/or need some TLC.  Getting involved is
step one, step two is shelling out real money for your own test gear, and
once you have that... you're "sucked in" forever.  And not just for your
machines, it's like the bumper sticker you see on pickup trucks...

 

"Yes, this is my pickup truck.  No I won't help you move."  LOL! 

 

Can change that to... 

 

"Yes, this is my service monitor.  No I won't help you tune your duplexer."
Haha... of course, reality is... you will.  'Cause you're a "good ham"...
just make 'em bring beer over... and save the beer for AFTER you've done the
tuning... 

 

 
--
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  n...@natetech.com

 

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04 -0700, "Bill Hudson"  wrote:

  

 

After installing some Hustler Spirit HD antennas in snow and ice conditions,
and visiting the site to see several inches of radial ice everywhere, I
became a dealer for them.  

 

They are built after the order to frequency.  I ordered a 420 9 dB HD Omni,
and a 440 9 dB Omni, and the 420 antenna was physically longer when compared
side by side.  Makes sense, but it's nice they are not using a one size fits
all fiberglass case.  

 

I won't have to be worrying about replacing the Spirit Antennas for a long
time, while I enjoy good coverage from the antennas.  I have a statement
that I always share:  "When you buy quality, it only hurts once."

 

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

 

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hancock
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:16 AM
To: repeater builders
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna question

 

  


Since no one else has mentioned them I'll say take a look at the Hustler
Spirit series antennas. Built similar to Stationmasters without the
"charging you for the name" price.
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit.html

Dan N8DJP

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "W3ML"  wrote:
>

> 
> Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800
bucks to buy one.


You can do FAR better than that price.  Primus Electronics, Joliet, IL.
800.435.1636.  I have no connection with them other than being a very
satisfied customer.

Laryn K8TVZ

[Repeater-Builder] Commchek

2009-10-12 Thread Gary 
Back around 1997 Motorola distributed a small utility program to assist in
troubleshooting and configuring comm. ports used with RSS applications. The
program was called COMMCHEK. Does anyone on the list happen to still have a
copy of this? I have a current need for it and would appreciate a copy. If
you're not sure what I'm referring to check SRN1201 or SRN1201A. Yes I
checked with Motorola already. This was apparently long enough ago that
current tech support staff haven't heard of it.

Thanks all,
Gary

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Commchek [1 Attachment]

2009-10-12 Thread Eric Lemmon 
Gary,

Thanks for the tip!  For those who don't have a file of Motorola's Service
and Repair Notes, I have attached the referenced SRNs.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Commchek

  

Back around 1997 Motorola distributed a small utility program to assist in
troubleshooting and configuring comm. ports used with RSS applications. The
program was called COMMCHEK. Does anyone on the list happen to still have a
copy of this? I have a current need for it and would appreciate a copy. If
you're not sure what I'm referring to check SRN1201 or SRN1201A. Yes I
checked with Motorola already. This was apparently long enough ago that
current tech support staff haven't heard of it.

Thanks all,
Gary