Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mrs2000

2010-05-16 Thread Paul Plack
Why, of course, it's what's found on the other side of the combiner from the 
MR2000. ;^)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mrs2000



  What's an MRS2000 ? (from the subject line)

  As to the "Code Plug Too New" message go here:



[Repeater-Builder] Re: mrs2000

2010-05-16 Thread Randy
Sorry chris i ment it's a mcs2000, thanks for link!

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ  wrote:
>
> What's an MRS2000 ?  (from the subject line)
> 
> As to the "Code Plug Too New" message go here:
> 
> and read the "Background Information I " article.
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:12 PM 05/16/10, you wrote:
> >I'm not sure, i will have to check tomorrow when i get to work. How 
> >do you get sofeware updates?
> >
> >--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Carruba 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It means you need a higher software version RSS
> > > What version are you using?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Chris Carruba
> > > Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org
> > > CompuTec Data Systems
> > > Custom Written Software, not all software is created equal!
> > > Networking, Forensic Data Recovery
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Randy 
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 7:50:46 PM
> > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] mrs2000
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm trying to program a mrs2000 radio through the mic connector 
> > with ms dos, this is a trunk mounted radio with remote head, the 
> > code plug down loads to the pc but has a message that says the code 
> > plug is too new for this application. what does this mean? other 
> > employees say that they have programmed these radios in the past 
> > with this pc with dos.
>




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio sources

2010-05-16 Thread Ken Arck

At 02:19 PM 5/16/2010, Jim \(List\) wrote:



Using the Arcom RAD board, single delay for all inputs, hence 
needing to mix things.


Not got those jumpers, it's the earlier RAD version.




<---A simple resistive combiner should work BUT REMEMBER THAT THE 
RADIOS MUST GATE THE AUDIO  DELIVERED TO THE COMBINING NETWORK. If 
they don't, you cannot combine them


Of course this presumes each radio can supply enough level. If not 
you'll need something like a summing amp (using an op amp is the 
easiest way to implement this).


The RAD expects 1 volt p-to-p max do don't overdrive it.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio sources

2010-05-16 Thread Jim (List)
Using the Arcom RAD board, single delay for all inputs, hence needing to mix
things.
 
Not got those jumpers, it's the earlier RAD version.
 
 
 
Jim
 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Ackerman
Sent: 16 May 2010 09:09
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio
sources




what are you using? are Arcom? or Scom?

If your using a arcom, take the jumper out of the delay board headers that
jump the audio for each port, bring the audio out line
(JP10-2,JP11-2,JP12-2) from each header into a mixer, run the output of the
mixer to the audio input pin on the delay board, then just split the output
of he delayboard however you want to, to the audio input pin on the delay
board header (JP10-3,JP11-3,JP12-3), then you can set each tx level via the
onboard pots.  

Not sure on the scom, have to look at a schematic.  


Thats the concept anyways.


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jim (List) 
wrote:


  



I'm in the process of building a repeater that will have multiple ports (3
different radios).
 
Only one radio be receiving at a time, the other two transmitting.
 
Therefore I have 3 audio sources (from different types of radio, at
different levels), each being fed to the other two radios and requiring
individual settings.
 
In the middle of this I want to put a delay board, but to keep the cost down
only have one.
 
What's the best arrangement for combining the incoming audio, and then
setting the levels for each TX?
 
Thinking along the lines of a FET audio mixer for each RX, setting all to
the same level of input to the delay board, then something on the output
from the delay (would I need another series of buffers, or would three 100k
pots do?) to adjust the TX level for each radio type?
 
 
Thanks for any advice!
 
 
 
Jim
 







Re: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio sources

2010-05-16 Thread scomind

 Hi Jeff,

>what are you using? are Arcom? or Scom?

I exchanged messages with Jim. He's building his own control system.

>If your using a arcom, take the jumper out of the delay board headers that 
>jump the audio for each port, bring the audio out line (JP10-2,JP11-
2,JP12-2) from each header into a mixer, run the output of the mixer to the 
audio input pin on the delay board, then just split the output of he delayboard 
however you want to, to the audio input pin on the delay board header 
(JP10-3,JP11-3,JP12-3), then you can set each tx level via the onboard pots.  

>Not sure on the scom, have to look at a schematic.



In the 7330 each RX input has its own audio delay and each TX output has its 
own 3-input mixer with a driver amp and level pot. No mods needed.



73,


Bob



Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte, CO 80535-1546
970-416-6505 phone
970-419-3222 fax
www.scomcontrollers.com



 

 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Ackerman 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 2:08 am
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio  sources


  

  
what are you using? are Arcom? or Scom?

If your using a arcom, take the jumper out of the delay board headers that jump 
the audio for each port, bring the audio out line (JP10-2,JP11-2,JP12-2) from 
each header into a mixer, run the output of the mixer to the audio input pin on 
the delay board, then just split the output of he delayboard however you want 
to, to the audio input pin on the delay board header (JP10-3,JP11-3,JP12-3), 
then you can set each tx level via the onboard pots.  

Not sure on the scom, have to look at a schematic.  


Thats the concept anyways.


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jim (List)  wrote:

 
  

  

I'm in the process of building a repeater that will have multiple ports (3 
different radios).
 
Only one radio be receiving at a time, the other two transmitting.
 
Therefore I have 3 audio sources (from different types of radio, at different 
levels), each being fed to the other two radios and requiring individual 
settings.
 
In the middle of this I want to put a delay board, but to keep the cost down 
only have one.
 
What's the best arrangement for combining the incoming audio, and then setting 
the levels for each TX?
 
Thinking along the lines of a FET audio mixer for each RX, setting all to the 
same level of input to the delay board, then something on the output from the 
delay (would I need another series of buffers, or would three 100k pots do?) to 
adjust the TX level for each radio type?
 
 
Thanks for any advice!
 
 
 
Jim
 

 

  





 

  
 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mrs2000

2010-05-16 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
What's an MRS2000 ?  (from the subject line)

As to the "Code Plug Too New" message go here:

and read the "Background Information I " article.



At 01:12 PM 05/16/10, you wrote:
>I'm not sure, i will have to check tomorrow when i get to work. How 
>do you get sofeware updates?
>
>--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Carruba 
> wrote:
> >
> > It means you need a higher software version RSS
> > What version are you using?
> >
> >
> >
> >  Best Regards,
> >
> > Chris Carruba
> > Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org
> > CompuTec Data Systems
> > Custom Written Software, not all software is created equal!
> > Networking, Forensic Data Recovery
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Randy 
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 7:50:46 PM
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] mrs2000
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to program a mrs2000 radio through the mic connector 
> with ms dos, this is a trunk mounted radio with remote head, the 
> code plug down loads to the pc but has a message that says the code 
> plug is too new for this application. what does this mean? other 
> employees say that they have programmed these radios in the past 
> with this pc with dos.



[Repeater-Builder] Re: spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads

2010-05-16 Thread Randy
Thanks David for the info. again i'm very new to this and need to ask what is 
the syskey? And where do i get it or find it?

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "David Murman"  wrote:
>
> Randy, once you load the codeplug hit the escape key. This brings you back
> to the main menu. Go to F4 then F5. This gets you to the MODE config menu.
> At the bottom of the screen F8 is the mode utility. At that point you can
> add or delete modes. Use the F1 key to get any help.
> 
>  
> 
> Deleting trunking modes you will need the syskey.
> 
>  
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> David
> 
> WA4ECM
> 
>  
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:42 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Thanks David, I'm very new to these radio's and i'm stumbling though it
> blind, I have checked out some of the help information but maybe i need to
> look a little harder for it. I so have the software on dos and have figures
> out how to archive and clone programs to other radio's. thanks again
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  , "David Murman" 
> wrote:
> >
> > If you have the software to program the radio there are help files. Just
> > press f1 after opening up the program and reading the code plug. If you
> > don't have the software then it is really hard (impossible) to add or
> delete
> > modes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of rwrodgers14
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:34 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > are there any specific shop manuals that explain how to erase and add
> modes
> > or channels?
> >
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: mrs2000

2010-05-16 Thread Randy
I'm not sure, i will have to check tomorrow when i get to work. How do you get 
sofeware updates?

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Carruba  
wrote:
>
> It means you need a higher software version RSS
> What version are you using?
> 
> 
> 
>  Best Regards,
> 
> Chris Carruba 
> Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org 
> CompuTec Data Systems
> Custom Written Software, not all software is created equal!
> Networking, Forensic Data Recovery
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Randy 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 7:50:46 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] mrs2000
> 
>   
> I'm trying to program a mrs2000 radio through the mic connector with ms dos, 
> this is a trunk mounted radio with remote head, the code plug down loads to 
> the pc but has a message that says the code plug is too new for this 
> application. what does this mean? other employees say that they have 
> programmed these radios in the past with this pc with dos.
>




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads

2010-05-16 Thread David Murman
Randy, once you load the codeplug hit the escape key. This brings you back
to the main menu. Go to F4 then F5. This gets you to the MODE config menu.
At the bottom of the screen F8 is the mode utility. At that point you can
add or delete modes. Use the F1 key to get any help.

 

Deleting trunking modes you will need the syskey.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

David

WA4ECM

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:42 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads

 

  

Thanks David, I'm very new to these radio's and i'm stumbling though it
blind, I have checked out some of the help information but maybe i need to
look a little harder for it. I so have the software on dos and have figures
out how to archive and clone programs to other radio's. thanks again

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 , "David Murman" 
wrote:
>
> If you have the software to program the radio there are help files. Just
> press f1 after opening up the program and reading the code plug. If you
> don't have the software then it is really hard (impossible) to add or
delete
> modes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of rwrodgers14
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:34 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> are there any specific shop manuals that explain how to erase and add
modes
> or channels?
>





Re: [Repeater-Builder] mrs2000

2010-05-16 Thread Chris Carruba
It means you need a higher software version RSS
What version are you using?



 Best Regards,

Chris Carruba 
Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org 
CompuTec Data Systems
Custom Written Software, not all software is created equal!
Networking, Forensic Data Recovery






From: Randy 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 7:50:46 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] mrs2000

  
I'm trying to program a mrs2000 radio through the mic connector with ms dos, 
this is a trunk mounted radio with remote head, the code plug down loads to the 
pc but has a message that says the code plug is too new for this application. 
what does this mean? other employees say that they have programmed these radios 
in the past with this pc with dos.


 


  

[Repeater-Builder] mrs2000

2010-05-16 Thread Randy
I'm trying to program a mrs2000 radio through the mic connector with ms dos, 
this is a trunk mounted radio with remote head, the code plug down loads to the 
pc but has a message that says the code plug is too new for this application. 
what does this mean? other employees say that they have programmed these radios 
in the past with this pc with dos.



[Repeater-Builder] Re: spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads

2010-05-16 Thread Randy
Thanks David, I'm very new to these radio's and i'm stumbling though it blind, 
I have checked out some of the help information but maybe i need to look a 
little harder for it. I so have the software on dos and have figures out how to 
archive and clone programs to other radio's. thanks again

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "David Murman"  wrote:
>
> If you have the software to program the radio there are help files. Just
> press f1 after opening up the program and reading the code plug. If you
> don't have the software then it is really hard (impossible) to add or delete
> modes.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> David
> 
>  
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rwrodgers14
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:34 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> are there any specific shop manuals that explain how to erase and add modes
> or channels?
>




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards

2010-05-16 Thread ka9qjg
Mike , Some of us Hams are Cheap ,  and learn by building things   But there
is actually a Few that  has the Money to  actually Buy them and as some get
older it is nice to be able to use plug and play Equipment  lol

 

PS I did see some pictures  at a Store called Spectronices in Oak Park
about 30 Yrs ago ,  of  pallets of Motorola Equipment  being sent to the
Dump because Mother M Did not want them back in service  to lose money ,  I
looked and Looked Never did find that dump Ha Ha 

 

Good Luck 

 

Don KA9QJG 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:38 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards

 

  

HI Joe,

 

We have access to 5 VHF MRS2000 repeaters and cant even get rid of them
since only people who will be able to use them are HAMS.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards

 

  

Eric,
I don't think they are landfill material yet. I think you will find that
there is many of them still in service. 

I know in one of the sites here locally in Southern Oregon, my Micor ham
repeater is surrounded by 5 MSR2000 VHF repeaters still in commercial
service.

You have to remember that they were the replacement for the Micor line of
radio. Most agencies and businesses in a lot of areas that had Micor
repeaters did not replace them with the MSR2000 radios as Motorola had
hoped. 

When Motorola built the Micor it was over-designed, over-built, and super
reliable. Motorola sold them like hot cakes at a fireman's breakfast to just
about everybody that had a need for a repeater. When the MSR2000 came out
the Micor was still king of the mountain and most customers and tech's did
not see the need to replace a relatively new perfectly good working
repeater, simply because Motorola had a new offering.

In my experiences and observations there was a fewer number of the MSR
series of radios that were sold when compared to the Micor series.

I have seen quite a few of MSR VHF repeaters come out of service, but have
not seen any UHF MSR's at all around here. Overall in looking for some
myself, I have seen more UHF MSF5000 series repeaters surplus than UHF
MSR2000 repeaters.

Good luck with your project. Don't give up, there has to be some of these
radios out there somewhere. If you come across a gross of them somewhere I
am looking for a couple myself.

Joe - WA7JAW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 , Eric Grabowski
 wrote:
>
> It's hard to believe that all of these are already in the landfill, but
maybe that is indeed the case. Bummer! It looked like these would have made
a fun project. Oh well.
> 



 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads

2010-05-16 Thread David Murman
If you have the software to program the radio there are help files. Just
press f1 after opening up the program and reading the code plug. If you
don't have the software then it is really hard (impossible) to add or delete
modes.

 

 

 

David

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rwrodgers14
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] spectra tranceiver with 9a dual heads

 

  

are there any specific shop manuals that explain how to erase and add modes
or channels?





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards

2010-05-16 Thread k7pfj
HI Joe,

 

We have access to 5 VHF MRS2000 repeaters and cant even get rid of them
since only people who will be able to use them are HAMS.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-736-9693 

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards

 

  

Eric,
I don't think they are landfill material yet. I think you will find that
there is many of them still in service. 

I know in one of the sites here locally in Southern Oregon, my Micor ham
repeater is surrounded by 5 MSR2000 VHF repeaters still in commercial
service.

You have to remember that they were the replacement for the Micor line of
radio. Most agencies and businesses in a lot of areas that had Micor
repeaters did not replace them with the MSR2000 radios as Motorola had
hoped. 

When Motorola built the Micor it was over-designed, over-built, and super
reliable. Motorola sold them like hot cakes at a fireman's breakfast to just
about everybody that had a need for a repeater. When the MSR2000 came out
the Micor was still king of the mountain and most customers and tech's did
not see the need to replace a relatively new perfectly good working
repeater, simply because Motorola had a new offering.

In my experiences and observations there was a fewer number of the MSR
series of radios that were sold when compared to the Micor series.

I have seen quite a few of MSR VHF repeaters come out of service, but have
not seen any UHF MSR's at all around here. Overall in looking for some
myself, I have seen more UHF MSF5000 series repeaters surplus than UHF
MSR2000 repeaters.

Good luck with your project. Don't give up, there has to be some of these
radios out there somewhere. If you come across a gross of them somewhere I
am looking for a couple myself.

Joe - WA7JAW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 , Eric Grabowski
 wrote:
>
> It's hard to believe that all of these are already in the landfill, but
maybe that is indeed the case. Bummer! It looked like these would have made
a fun project. Oh well.
> 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards

2010-05-16 Thread burkleoj
Eric,
I don't think they are landfill material yet. I think you will find that there 
is many of them still in service. 

I know in one of the sites here locally in Southern Oregon, my Micor ham 
repeater is surrounded by 5 MSR2000 VHF repeaters still in commercial service.

You have to remember that they were the replacement for the Micor line of 
radio. Most agencies and businesses in a lot of areas that had Micor repeaters 
did not replace them with the MSR2000 radios as Motorola had hoped. 

When Motorola built the Micor it was over-designed, over-built, and super 
reliable. Motorola sold them like hot cakes at a fireman's breakfast to just 
about everybody that had a need for a repeater. When the MSR2000 came out the 
Micor was still king of the mountain and most customers and tech's did not see 
the need to replace a relatively new perfectly good working repeater, simply 
because Motorola had a new offering.
 
In my experiences and observations there was a fewer number of the MSR series 
of radios that were sold when compared to the Micor series.

I have seen quite a few of MSR VHF repeaters come out of service, but have not 
seen any UHF MSR's at all around here. Overall in looking for some myself, I 
have seen more UHF MSF5000 series repeaters surplus than UHF MSR2000 repeaters.

Good luck with your project. Don't give up, there has to be some of these 
radios out there somewhere. If you come across a gross of them somewhere I am 
looking for a couple myself.

Joe - WA7JAW



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Grabowski  wrote:
>
> It's hard to believe that all of these are already in the landfill, but maybe 
> that is indeed the case. Bummer! It looked like these would have made a fun 
> project. Oh well.
> 




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread bil . isom
Has anyone seen any ATV equipment here?  Thanks, Bill 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "skipp025" 
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 04:23:38 
To: 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

We're here at the Dayton Hamvention... and it's another great 
weekend wrapping up. I've noticed a number MSR-2000 Units out 
in the flea market... I'll try to remember to get their contact 
information. A complete VHF MSR-2000 Repeater is/was priced 
at $50 today and still no takers yet. Even had the large internal 
VHF duplexer installed. UHF units are not as common but I 
haven't been paying that close attention. 

Bright sun today and an number of the Group Members here are 
looking pretty lobster red. The brauts/brats are good but the 
sodas are priced at $3 each, which I think is a bit much. 

Great to meet a number of Group Members here... some of you 
I wouldn't buy a car from but I think that also works in 
reverse... not that I'd want to part with a precious 137,000 
mile Yugo. 

Surplus radio gear here like crazy... GE Rangers going for 
$30 to $40, Maxtracs going for $40 (all bands), all kinds of 
hand held radios and a lot of vintage land mobile (two-way) 
radios are reappearing one more time. 

Solar Panels are bringing in prime dollar and fairly few relative 
to previous years. 

The hard hat with top mounted mini tower and yagi beam guy is 
here walking around. Just a few Hamsexy T-Shirts in the walking 
around crowd. 

Coffee wasn't strong enough... 

s. 

Give us some time to get home and we'll share the contact 
information for any UHF MSR equipment we might see and remember 
to write down. 

> Eric Grabowski  wrote:
> It's hard to believe that all of these are already in the 
> landfill, but maybe that is indeed the case. Bummer! It 
> looked like these would have made a fun project. Oh well.
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/2/10, kc7stw  wrote:
> 
> From: kc7stw 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 12:21 PM
>  
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, Eric Grabowski  
> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Looking for a receiver board and a transmitter board from a Motorola 
> > MSR2000 station. The boards must tune in the 440 to 450 MHz frequency 
> > range. Duplex TX board preferred but a simplex TX board would be okay. This 
> > is for a Ham Radio project. If you have one or both of these boards lying 
> > around gathering dust, please email me directly. Thanks for the bandwidth.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ
> 
> > kh...@...
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Best of luck on the search.  I was hunting for the same thing a about a month 
> ago with no luck.  Best bet is to keep a eye on ebay.
>





Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

2010-05-16 Thread MCH
Oh, and I was just looking for a Hamvention source for chips or other 
related items. I've been playing with them, and wanted to find some good 
deals. I have a couple development boards, and I've been writing code in 
ASM.

Joe M.

n...@no6b.com wrote:
> At 5/15/2010 18:20, you wrote:
>> Sorry for the slightly OT post, but has anyone seen any PIC stuff at the
>> Hamvention? Looking for PICs, PIC manuals, PIC-based kits, Etc.
> 
> What do you want to do with PICs?
> 
> The actual PICs can be had from Mouser or DigiKey.  I bought a programmer 
> from Futurlec for ~$60.
> 
> I never saw any PIC-specific vendors at Dayton, though Byonics (APRS 
> trackers) is usually there as well as ICS (repeater controllers), & their 
> products are PIC-based.
> 
> Bob NO6B
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

2010-05-16 Thread MCH
Actually, Byonics is using the AT Mega (sp?). I specifically asked. At 
least, that's what the TT4 is using.

Joe M.

n...@no6b.com wrote:
> At 5/15/2010 18:20, you wrote:
>> Sorry for the slightly OT post, but has anyone seen any PIC stuff at the
>> Hamvention? Looking for PICs, PIC manuals, PIC-based kits, Etc.
> 
> What do you want to do with PICs?
> 
> The actual PICs can be had from Mouser or DigiKey.  I bought a programmer 
> from Futurlec for ~$60.
> 
> I never saw any PIC-specific vendors at Dayton, though Byonics (APRS 
> trackers) is usually there as well as ICS (repeater controllers), & their 
> products are PIC-based.
> 
> Bob NO6B
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio sources

2010-05-16 Thread Jeff Ackerman
what are you using? are Arcom? or Scom?

If your using a arcom, take the jumper out of the delay board headers that
jump the audio for each port, bring the audio out line
(JP10-2,JP11-2,JP12-2) from each header into a mixer, run the output of the
mixer to the audio input pin on the delay board, then just split the output
of he delayboard however you want to, to the audio input pin on the delay
board header (JP10-3,JP11-3,JP12-3), then you can set each tx level via the
onboard pots.

Not sure on the scom, have to look at a schematic.


Thats the concept anyways.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jim (List) wrote:

>
>
> I'm in the process of building a repeater that will have multiple ports (3
> different radios).
>
> Only one radio be receiving at a time, the other two transmitting.
>
> Therefore I have 3 audio sources (from different types of radio, at
> different levels), each being fed to the other two radios and requiring
> individual settings.
>
> In the middle of this I want to put a delay board, but to keep the cost
> down only have one.
>
> What's the best arrangement for combining the incoming audio, and then
> setting the levels for each TX?
>
> Thinking along the lines of a FET audio mixer for each RX, setting all to
> the same level of input to the delay board, then something on the output
> from the delay (would I need another series of buffers, or would three 100k
> pots do?) to adjust the TX level for each radio type?
>
>
> Thanks for any advice!
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>  
>


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coupling cavities, cable length, and notch/bandpass configuration

2010-05-16 Thread spradio2000
Sorry, my ascii pictures get messed up. The preview looked great.
Even when you write a reply, the ascii drawing looks fine tin the preview 
window.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "spradio2000"  wrote:
>
> Hi Kris,
> 
> Sorry, I use 3/4 wave cables, not all cut to perfection.
> I measured lengths for the t-connection exactly.
> Fro the center of the T to thye beginning of the loop 3/4 wave, or should it 
> have been from center T to center T.
>
>|  |
>   ..   .---.
>   |'   |
>   ''---.---'
>  \ |   |
>   \|   |
>\...:...
> \  /| |
>  Center T / | |
>  /  | |
> /   --'
>   Begin Loop
> I have homebrew filter with six 10cm diam. cavities, and six commercial 
> bandpasses, of which I use six as band rejects.
> I might want to try using a Johanson trimmer in the loop to try and create a 
> bpbr cavity. Have not experimented with that yet.
> 
> In pictures I see twoo br or bpbr cavities and one bp cavitie, of which the 
> last (bp) is couples to the br with longer cable.
> Looks like 1/2 wave, can this be correct?
> 
> Edwin
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coupling cavities, cable length, and notch/bandpass configuration

2010-05-16 Thread spradio2000
Hi Kris,

Sorry, I use 3/4 wave cables, not all cut to perfection.
I measured lengths for the t-connection exactly.
Fro the center of the T to thye beginning of the loop 3/4 wave, or should it 
have been from center T to center T.
   
   |  |
  ..   .---.
  |'   |
  ''---.---'
 \ |   |
  \|   |
   \...:...
\  /| |
 Center T / | |
 /  | |
/   --'
  Begin Loop
I have homebrew filter with six 10cm diam. cavities, and six commercial 
bandpasses, of which I use six as band rejects.
I might want to try using a Johanson trimmer in the loop to try and create a 
bpbr cavity. Have not experimented with that yet.

In pictures I see twoo br or bpbr cavities and one bp cavitie, of which the 
last (bp) is couples to the br with longer cable.
Looks like 1/2 wave, can this be correct?

Edwin