Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: DDRR Antenna on a tower

2010-06-12 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, skipp025 wrote:
 Keep in mind the DDRR Antenna is a reduced size vertical polarized 
 antenna and the Squalo  Ho-Loop are normally considered full or 
 standard size loop type antennas that are horizontally polarized.

 DDRR Antenna mounted on a tower?  Only if there were no other 
 decent options.Maybe, but I've never run into that situation. 

That would definately earn you the hammie award, which is a downward 
look from the commercial guys.

Also, DDRRs are notoriously touchy about the local environment and 
tuning. Expect a 500KHz wide 2:1 and if anything changes within a 
wavelength or less of the antenna, it's tuning will change.

In short, it's an antenna best used as a mobile, where you're likely to 
be able to keep it in tune.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-12 Thread Jeff DePolo

OK, you're looking for something in the middle then.

For parallel protectors,  LEA CFS or SP series, or Transtector Apex II, may
be more in the price range you're looking for (under $1000).  Since I don't
use protectors of that kind regularly, I don't have any other
recommendations other than to stick with repetuable manufacturers and read
the data sheets.  The cheaper ones will probably be MOV-only.  Others may
use a combination of MOV's, SAD's, and/or gas discharge tubes.  There are
pros and cons to each...

I don't know of any series protectors that fall into the price range of what
I would think you're looking for.  

Someone else (Eric?) mentioned Square D.  The only Square D ones I've used
are the ones that are built into the panel (Surgelogic or something like
that?), not the add-on ones.  We had to replace one in a 3-phase 480/277
panel not too long ago, that's the only reason I'm familiar with them (they
have an audible alarm that goes off when the arrestor detects a fault, a
nice feature).

--- Jeff WN3A


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:51 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary
 
   
 
 OK, I'm familiar with those single-point grounding panel 
 protection devices.
 
 How about a service panel protector for home use?
 
 And a service panel protector for a small (200A) 3-phase panel?
 
 I ask, rather than simply Google for it, because Google could 
 come up with 
 some units that are not good.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV



[Repeater-Builder] Re: DDRR Antenna on a tower

2010-06-12 Thread skipp025

Re: DDRR Antenna on a tower 

  Keep in mind the DDRR Antenna is a reduced size 
  vertical polarized antenna and the Squalo  Ho-Loop 
  are normally considered full or standard size loop 
  type antennas that are horizontally polarized. 
 
  DDRR Antenna mounted on a tower?  Only if there were no 
  other decent options. Maybe, but I've never run into 
  that situation. 

 Kris Kirby k...@... wrote: 
 That would definately earn you the hammie award, which is 
 a downward look from the commercial guys.

Don't want the commercial radio guys looking down at me any 
more than they already do... 

 Also, DDRRs are notoriously touchy about the local environment 
 and tuning. Expect a 500KHz wide 2:1 and if anything changes 
 within a wavelength or less of the antenna, it's tuning will 
 change.

Possibly why they are normally supplied with a radome. 

 In short, it's an antenna best used as a mobile, where 
 you're likely to be able to keep it in tune.

Hasn't been a problem so far, but I could be the exception 
to the rule book. I'll Keep the Kreco and Sinclair LB Antennas 
in place on the tower. 

thanks, 
s. 




[Repeater-Builder] 144.730 ICOM or 14.837 Mastr II, MVP or Exec RX crystal

2010-06-12 Thread terry_wx3m
On a long shot, before I order ONE crystal, does anyone by any chance have 
either a GE Mastr II Icom for 144.730 RX or crystal on 14.837 for Mastr II,  
Exec, or MVP ??

Terry

wx3m.te...@gmail.com