[Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS in USA
His license covers his family and allows them to operate GMRS equipment. The repeater can be used by other GMRS Licensees if the repeater owner chooses to allow them. Sec. 95.33 Cooperative use of radio stations in the GMRS. (a) Licensees (a licensee is the entity to which the license is issued) of radio stations in the GMRS may share the use of their stations with other entities eligible in the GMRS, subject to the following conditions and limitations. (1) The station to be shared must be individually owned by the licensee, jointly owned by the participants and the licensee, leased individually by the licensee, or leased jointly by the participants and the licensee. (2) The licensee must maintain access to and control over all stations authorized under its license. (3) A station may be shared only: (i) Without charge; (ii) On a non-profit basis, with contributions to capital and operating expenses including the cost of mobile stations and paging receivers prorated equitably among all participants; or (iii) On a reciprocal basis, i.e., use of one licensee's stations for the use of another licensee's stations without charge for either capital or operating expenses. (4) All sharing arrangements must be conducted in accordance with a written agreement to be kept as part of the station records. (b) [Reserved] Head over to the GMRS forum at Popular wireless (link below), there are many good knowledgable GMRS licensees over there who can answer all your questions. http://www.popularwireless.com./cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi DougD Cumberland GMRS Repeater Group www.cgrg.webhop.net --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Johnny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joe, > The Lakes Area GMRS Repeater Group has a lot of good GMRS information on > their website. Go to: http://eebie38.tripod.com/gmrs/ > Hope this helps. > Johnny > > Joe wrote: > > > I have a spare UHF repeater and duplexer for the project and he has a 65 > > foot tower on the property, so putting a repeater on the air would not be > > difficult. His wife could then use an HT around the house to keep in > > contact with him. > > > > I guess my confusion is that the license requirements state that it is for > > family, but the repeater would be for many other people. What are the > > legalities? > > > > Joe > > > > At 05:26 PM 11/28/2005 +, you wrote: > > > >>Hi Joe > >> > >>I have 4 GMRS repeaters set up in my area. If all he wants to do is > >>to talk over his 50 acres, wouldn't a base with a decently high > >>antenna and quality hand held suit the need? Course a repeater > >>would be nice for them for trips to town or whatever if he has the > >>space for equipment and a place for a decent antenna site...assuming > >>the town isn't 100 miles away. > >> > >>Biggest thing is for them go get licensed and then see about what > >>type of system would work best. > >> > >>just my .02 > >>Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892 > >> > >> > >>--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting. I have a friend who was just asking me about a GMRS > >> > >>repeater for he and his wife. He has aprox. 50 acres of woods that > >>he likes to walk around in and is in his 70's. His wife is > >>concerned about him needing to contact her, so I got them a pair of > >>Midland GMRS radios. They don't quite do the job because of a > >>little terrain blockage due to a hill. I was thinking of > >>recrystalling a Repco repeater that I have and set up a GMRS > >>repeater, but don't know the details about how feasible this would > >>be. Any suggestions from the group? > >> > >>>Joe > >>> > >>> "Doug D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>>John, > >>>> > >>>>GMRS License (new) $80 for 5 years. License available for > >>>>individuals (does cover just about entire family though) only. > >> > >>No > >> > >>>>Groups or Businesses. Here is a description from the FCC GMRS > >>>>webpage. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS in USA
John, GMRS License (new) $80 for 5 years. License available for individuals (does cover just about entire family though) only. No Groups or Businesses. Here is a description from the FCC GMRS webpage. "The General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) is a land-mobile radio service available for short-distance two-way communications to facilitate the activities of an adult individual and his or her immediate family members, including a spouse, children, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, and in-laws (47 CFR 95.179). Normally, as a GMRS system licensee, you and your family members would communicate among yourselves over the general area of your residence or during recreational group outings, such as camping or hiking. The FCC grants five-year renewable licenses for GMRS Systems. The individual licensee is responsible for the proper operations of the licensed GMRS system at all times." More info can be found at the FCC's GMRS page below. http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/personal/generalmobile/ DougD Cumberland GMRS Repeater Group www.cgrg.webhop.net --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What does it take to get a GMRS license in the US now? > > I did GMRS stuff in the mid 1980s, but have no idea what the current > requirements are today. I have a Explorer post asking me to help. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: Decibel Products DB408B
Looking for a used Decibel Products DB408-B 450-470mhz Antenna in good condition. Within driving distance of NJ preferred. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, DougD KC2KGY WPSI726 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted
>and appears to be a pack rat... keeping older manuals and printouts... That is why I said write it in stone, there will be a time sooner rather than later when all data prior to 1981 will be gone forever. Fortunately, I was able to find someone in the FCC that had the info which happens to be 22 years old. DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted
Russ, The webpage is live now. It is a view of page 302 of the "Radio Equiment List" From 1983. www.digio1.com/cgrg/micor.html Doug --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Doug, > Do you have the names and contact info? > I myself have 3 Micors with the same TX number it would be great to use > them. Or I was going to sell them and up grade to some thing I could use. > Kathy, AB2LF, WPYM-499 has a new Kenwood Systems 50 watt GMRS repeater that > talks (ARcom controller) and every thing for down in Vineland NJ I would > love to replace some of mine with a few of those. But I just installed the > TKR-850 ver. two's. I want to move more north into Reading PA. But if I can > use what I have. That would be real nice. > Very best of 73, > Russ, > Ham, W3CH. > GMRS, WPYK-254. > > - Original Message - > From: "Doug D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:44 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted > > > > > > > > Sorry, forgot to include the link. > > The link to the webpage the information will be on is: > > www.digo1.com/cgrg/micor.html > > Check later tonight or tomorrow morning. > > DougD > > WPSI726 > > KC2KGY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted
Sorry, forgot to include the link. The link to the webpage the information will be on is: www.digo1.com/cgrg/micor.html Check later tonight or tomorrow morning. DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted
Lets put another one to rest. WRITE IT IN STONE! the Micor, at least those with the Transmitter FCC Identifier of CC4224C are Part 95 type accepted. This is the transmitter on my Micor Community Repeater. Here is my journey to this data. I had sent a letter to the FCC Field office back in Dec. requesting to know if the Micor Community Repeater I have on the air was certificated for use in the GMRS as it states to do in the GMRS rules. I also checked with big M and they no longer maintain or offer data on non current radios. I waited a few months for word from the FCC and after I didn't receive a reply, I contacted R.H. to see if he could help. He did some hunting came up empty and he then referred me to someone and so on and finally I ended up with an EE who assisted me. Well as most of us know the older equipment prior to late 1981 are not contained in the OET database. The FCC does not maintain publicly available records of any equipment before this point so if it doesn't have the current style ID (Grantee Code/Product code) you will be hard pressed to find the authorization data. The EE had a copy of the "FCC Radio Equipment List" dated January 1, 1983, this is where the proof is. On page 302 in black and white the transmitter CC4224C is authorized for rules part 21, 90 & 95. If any one has one of these lists keep it! I will scan the info later tonight and post it on my website. There are other Motorola transmitters listed on that page that are Part 95 also that people might be interested in. DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off topic part 95 DCS on GMRS
I concur with Joe on this that it is legal and was once outlined in the rules before they drastically simplified/reduced (actually leaving out important sections like the one below) the rules. From the Part 95 rules 1996 rev. 95.75 Basic Information (n) Emission designator. In the GMRS, emission F3E will be considered to include use of a selective calling tone, or a tone or digitally operated squelch (a tone code used to address a particular station) in conjunction with voice communications; DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe Montierth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Barry Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks to Russ, I contacted the FCC WTB regarding > > the usage of DCS/DPL or anything other than > > common tone names like PL from the Motorola trade > > mark and was confirmed that anything other than > > PL was not authorized under part 95.181 sub > > section "G & H". > > > > In my local area I've had a gmrs repeater up for > > some "10" years with little to no co-channel > > problems on the same PL, as of late some > > dick-head decided to turn up my PL on his > > repeater and has ignored several request to turn > > it off. The same individual in Oakland, CA also > > has DPL turned on to his users, gee guess whois > > going to get a call from the WTB:) An Official > > complaint has been filed, I want to see big bucks > > come out of this violators pocket. > > > > I highly recommend to everyone on this list > > server if your running DCS/DPL on your gmrs > > repeater you think twice as many of us old guys > > are going to get you busted with big fines:) > > > > > > > > REgards, Barry > > > > The people you talked to at WTB are full of crap, and > you can tell them I said so. DPL has been used for > years as a "sub-audible" selective squelch system on > GMRS, and is authorized under 95.631 (a). DPL is F1D > emission. > > § 95.631 Emission types. > (a) A GMRS transmitter must transmit > only emission types A1D, F1D, > G1D, H1D, J1D, R1D, A3E, F3E, G3E, > H3E, J3E or R3E. A non-voice emission > is limited to selective calling or toneoperated > squelch tones to establish or > continue voice communications. See > § 95.181 (g) and (h). > > > Joe > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! > http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II mobile conversion question
Johnny, I am aware about FCC ID search for type acceptance, However Russ said he had a list thats what I asked for. Russ, I just noticed this list you have is 600 pages, Hopefully its in a format such as pdf file copy as it is 600 pages Thanks, DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Johnny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no "list". You have to do a search on each model radio to see > find out which services it is type accepted for. > Johnny > > > Doug D. wrote: > > > > Russ, > > > > It would be a great help to licensed GMRS users if you could post > > that list somewhere such as here or Popular Communications GMRS > > Forum. This is a hot topic over there too. Or could you email me a > > copy of the list? > > > > DougD > > WPSI726 > > KC2KGY > > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I mite be wrong. Where did you look it up at? I have the list from > > > > the FCC I > > > >>just got it about 3 months back and there are no GE's on it (GMRS > > > > Part 95) > > > >>It is about 600 pages long and no GE. > >>73 Russ, > >>Ham, W3CH. > >>GMRS, WPYK-254. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II mobile conversion question
Russ, It would be a great help to licensed GMRS users if you could post that list somewhere such as here or Popular Communications GMRS Forum. This is a hot topic over there too. Or could you email me a copy of the list? DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mite be wrong. Where did you look it up at? I have the list from the FCC I > just got it about 3 months back and there are no GE's on it (GMRS Part 95) > It is about 600 pages long and no GE. > 73 Russ, > Ham, W3CH. > GMRS, WPYK-254. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
Thanks guys! Great, Glassboro is just up the road from here. DougD KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They also do have the DB-224e in stock I bought one from them last week. I > got the price from Dean in the Glassboro NJ office. > We installed it this morning and it is working very well on our 147.315 > repeater in Chester PA. It is nice that some one still stocks good antennas > in the Ham bands and at a fair price. They also have flat rate shipping so > they keep the truck shipping down as well. > 73 Russ, W3CH > > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam C. Feuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > I believe the office I spoke to was Glassboro (or something like that) in > > New Jersey. They also made mention of another office somewhere in > Georgia. > > > > Adam N2ACF > > - Original Message - > > From: "Doug D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:14 AM > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > What state and city are they located in? > > > > > > thanks, > > > dougd > > > KC2KGY > > > WPSI726 > > > > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Adam C. Feuer" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 > > > and was very > > > > happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have > > > what you > > > > need. > > > > > > > > Adam N2ACF > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 > > > > > Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "wn1b8" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM > > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? > > > Any > > > > > > chance they have a web site? > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Madison, WN1B/8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Glad I could be of help Ralph, > > > > > > > Please let us know how you make out. > > > > > > > I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a > > > replacement in > > > > > > stock and > > > > > > > got it to me earlier in the week the same day. > > > > > > > Very best of 73, > > > > > > > Russ, W3CH > > > > > > > Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, > > > > > > > W3PS/RPT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > From: "Ralph Mowery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. > > > > > > > > > They have them in sto
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
What state and city are they located in? thanks, dougd KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Adam C. Feuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 and was very > happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have what you > need. > > Adam N2ACF > - Original Message - > From: "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 > > Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as well. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "wn1b8" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any > > > chance they have a web site? > > > > > > Scott Madison, WN1B/8 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Glad I could be of help Ralph, > > > > Please let us know how you make out. > > > > I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in > > > stock and > > > > got it to me earlier in the week the same day. > > > > Very best of 73, > > > > Russ, W3CH > > > > Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, > > > > W3PS/RPT. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Ralph Mowery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. > > > > > > They have them in stock in > > > > > > the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. > > > > > > Good luck and 73, > > > > > > Russ, W3CH > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > From: "Ralph Mowery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM > > > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen this discussed before but looked in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > past messages and could not find it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 > > > > > > bay > > > > > > > dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 > > > > > > range > > > > > > > for a ham repeater ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Russ. That is the name I was looking for but > > > > > just could not remember it or find it in the past > > > > > messages. > > > > > > > > > > 73 de KU4PT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > > > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
