[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain Specs

2007-02-21 Thread N8BQN

 rick martin wrote:
 dBi  Ringo Ranger and the use of dBi I like it to a
subterranean isotropic radiator.
 I think a Heathkit cantenna radiates better.

Let us not be too caustic, folks:
I had occasion to slap one up for a 'quicky' packet station -- tuned
with a tape-measure, ty-wrapped to a pipe, and raggidy coax (with two
couplings), and decent weather  .. in theory, the worst of EVERYTHING
wrong.

Turned out to be a monster performer.  Still is -- 18 years later  -- go
figgure.  g









Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Time Out Award

2007-02-19 Thread N8BQN

 Jim B. wrote:
 Look for 'Purple Xtal'...

Another vote for PC ~   have actually seen a nice one: wall-plaque
thingy, adorned with a VERY old and large xtal unit  -- maybe 1.5 square 
3/4 thick?  (No, not a heater)
Any current holder was held responsible for 'catching' the next recipient
-- think 'hot potato'  ;-)

/.






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ok, here's a weird one....

2007-02-15 Thread N8BQN

Umm.. what he said.  With another twist or two...
Heretofore, it's been assumed the culprit to be main channel RF, because
they're hearing main-channel audio...

You'll want to consider what *other* things may be going on ~~
* STL (studio-transmitter-link) channels ~ typically in the 950 range, but
not always
* RPU/IFB channels ~ which generally aren't wide-band, and have been known
to run continuously.


Laryn Lohman wrote:

  I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but yes, this sounds like a classic
  case of Intermood.

 I don't think it is classic intermod.  Think about it.  The deviation
 of the broadcast station is 75 kc.
 snip.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Effects of doubling RF output ...

2007-02-05 Thread N8BQN

 Tony L. wrote:
  1) Will the hundreds we pay to upgrade actually translate into
significantly increased range?

As others have said -- not significant.
But there'll always be someone who'll want to argue the point   here
ya go:

Envision pouring a cup of water on a table top -- it makes a puddle of X
radius (range) and (PI * R^2) area.
Pouring on a second cup will double the area (at the same depth) .. but
the radius increases by only 1/3 at best.

Doubling the radius (range) requires LOTS more water.  Let the naysayer
figure out how much.  g

/.






Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

2007-01-30 Thread N8BQN

Wonder if they'll be amending this to reclassify tow-trucks as
'emergency' .. or the highway dept ..  or ...

Time for a photo of the legislator pulling away from the drive-thru with
a fresh coffee in-hand...

Ken Arck wrote:
but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to
mobilize Oregon hams(coming to a State near you?)
  { +  (3) This section does not apply to:
  (a) A person operating an ambulance or emergency vehicle; or
  (b) A person summoning medical or other emergency help if no other
person in the vehicle is capable of summoning help.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT ...

2007-01-30 Thread N8BQN

There was a joke about the Italian cab-driver who'd brag about waving at the
girls out both windows -- at the same time ...
Ummm..  nevermind. g

Tho there might be some correlation to what lawmakers are using for brains.

 Jim B. wrote:
 It ticks me off when I see these people that insist on talking with their
hands, holding the phone in one hand and waving the other around while
driving,   snip



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread N8BQN

Somehow I recollect that describing the 'extremely healty' Clarkston
machine (near Detroit) ~ 3 TX yagis  a single RX stik atop...

 Roger White wrote:
 This idea was in a ham magazine years ago, to solve a similar problem.
It was on a very large tower, with a large face. This particular
application used three sets of phased beams (two at each leg, fired
tangentially to the tower).


Re: [Repeater-Builder] What Can Go Wrong With A Bird 43?

2006-12-31 Thread N8BQN

Unlikely as noted, but I *have* had a meter movement fail ~
and found a repair facility outside Detroit  http://www.rammeter.com/

I recall they were durn reasonable $$ -- but it's been an eon or two.

Sent in JUST the meter movement ~ not the whole Bird.


And .. on the topic of videos -- supposedly the 'rest of the story' you won't
see on CBS:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplicated Link URLs

2006-12-24 Thread N8BQN

You want bernaise sauce with that ?

 Eric Lemmon wrote:
 www.bcarn.net/6m-project-duplexer.htm
 (I hope this works, and I don't wind up with egg on my face!)



Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-06 Thread N8BQN

OK .. how many of you were immediately thinking of the barrel of tools up the
tower story?
(raises hand)  g


Nate Duehr wrote:
Clip the pulley to something sturdy up-top, and have your buddy who
thought he was getting out of doing the hard part down at the truck --
pull the heavy stuff up to you via same rope now fed back down to him
through said pulley.  snip




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site

2006-05-25 Thread N8BQN

No more .. too many [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi-rise obstacles  ;-)
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 Bob M. wrote:
 I thought Florida was so flat, you didn't need anything higher than 30
ft?!?!?!








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a GE Key

2006-05-18 Thread N8BQN





Ummm.. IIRC, isn't "DI" a Desk-mate (shorty) cabinet ??
Should take a BF10
/.

"Steve Bosshard (NU5D)" wrote:
If the station is in a stand up cabinet with hinges on the door,
On 5/17/06, tgundo2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
... his base station is a GE master seris model DI76EAU66A.













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a GE Key

2006-05-18 Thread N8BQN





Bingo .. same key as the M-II mobile; stubby little sucker ~
only 3 'nubs'.
given some patience, you can pop that lock with a paperclip  medium
flatblade.
Well .. a lot of patience.. ;-)

TGundo 2003 wrote:
The cabinet in question is only about 3 ft tall.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it

2006-04-03 Thread N8BQN

 hq54 wrote:
 Nope, in 100 years it will be 2007, so it will be 2/3/4 07.

 ???  Umm..Did we already miss something ??

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Info wanted on Mitrek VHF rptr.

2006-03-25 Thread N8BQN

From his description, I'd almost expect to find WHAC engraved on the case ..
LOL!!

trying AGT canada in Google got 629,000 hits...  ummm ~ no thanks.
Sounds like a challenge !
Good Luck.


Eric Lemmon wrote:
I looked up the your model number in my cross-reference manual, without finding
a listing.  Perhaps one of the list's Mitrek specialists can provide some
insight into this unusual radio...?


 On the ID plate:   Prim. Pwr. 12v   Motorola Canada Ltd.
 Doc. No.   109191038X
  MITREK Type JJA   Watt 2-10
 Mod. No.   MX23JJA1106BAZ
 Ser. No.   533PKN1018
 Motorola Inc. Made in USA

 Label on top cover reads:  Mobile Communications and has a AGT logo.
 Probably installed by the service shop.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mystery board...

2006-03-25 Thread N8BQN

The B sez it's lo-band ...
what kind of box did it come from?  (err.. cardboard ?)  ;-)



Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote:

 I have a mystery board for which I can find no reference.  It is aTLB4390B2,
 about 2.5 inches square.
 For the Moto Guru's the 84 number is 84C84  87IKDI  DAB
 Anybody got a clue?





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yahoo Groups Question - OT

2006-03-17 Thread N8BQN

Nothing really 'wrong' ~ It's your G-Mail being helpful...

As I understand it ~ it sees your 'sent' and the 'received' as
duplicates, and saves only one.  Guess which one.



Kevin  Natalia Mitchell wrote:

 Sorry for the bandwidth, but I have a small problem when sending
 messages to the group. It does happen on the other groups I belong
 to.I used to be able to see any message I sent to the group, however
 other the past 6 months when I send a message, I do not get a forward
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 me the message made it to the group.Like this message, I will not see
 that it has been received unless I go into the yahoogroups web-page
 for Repeater Builder. Would anyone have any ideas what may be wrong, I
 have checked my setup for yahoo, and can not see anything to cause
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stuff for sale

2006-03-16 Thread N8BQN

 Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

Gotta wonder about folks who post For Sale: All the cool junk in my
shed.

But..  No name. No call.  No phone.  No location.
mailbox over quota  spam-blocker cranked up full-tilt.

..and then can't fathom why...  oh nevermind.
(:shakes head:)

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 GROUP

2006-03-16 Thread N8BQN

 using the proper 'groupname, write to  groupname-owner@
yahoogroups.com


k0jxi wrote:
Can anyone tell me who the moderator for the MSF5000 group is?
I need to get a hold of him.
Thanks, Dale K0JXI





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod

2006-03-15 Thread N8BQN

Apparently you can nail down which station is the troublemaker...

Thinking about possible unusual suspects ...
IIRC, there's an allocation for BC Remote Pickup in the 450-451 range ..
which wouldn't necessarily be continous..  and if they're using that as a
'talk-back' or cueing channel, it may well sound like the main channel...

Then there's those occasions when a primary STL (studio-transmitter-link)
goes down, and they'll pop the RPU on as a substitute...  not entirely
kosher, but it happens.


 dallasreact112 wrote:
 Every once in a while we get FM broadcast interference on our DCR
442.425  snip





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Beer keg resonators

2006-02-25 Thread N8BQN

?? Tune-up procedure:  Pump  drain until ...buurrrp.
G


 skipp025 wrote:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] You Must .. be kidding

2006-02-18 Thread N8BQN





Kevin ~ You moved to Peru ?? LOL>

X-Originating-IP: 201.230.206.171
inetnum: 201.230.192/20
owner: PE-TDP-GRS
ownerid: PE-PETD2-LACNIC
responsible: Telefonica del Peru

kuggie wrote:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power - CP

2006-02-11 Thread N8BQN

Wow~   solid, broadband, heated...  the stuff dreams are made of g
Yeah, I'm jealous.  ~/ N8BQN /~


 Mike Morris wrote:
 In this particular case the antenna was .. rebuilt to 146Mhz by Jampro
as a favor to  'OQK (who is a professional broadcast engineer).

serious snipage





 
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2006-02-09 Thread N8BQN
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mountain Lion time!

2006-01-29 Thread N8BQN

Other way 'round ...  the young eating their parents.
Take *THAT*, Judge Green... ! 

SBC scarfed up ATT, including the name, logo, and ticker
symbol.
T shareholders got 0.855 in SBC, rebranded back to T
That's wny you're confused.


 Mark A. Holman wrote:
 Wasnt SBC bought out by AT T ?? for a lions share?? --
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!

2006-01-27 Thread N8BQN

S'Okay - we can take the slams ..
What the IL guys DON'T have to contend with is the LINE-A baloney that's
dished out to us .. Nothing EVER fits, on ANY band, in ANY service...

Would you like some cheeze  crackers with that whine .. ?? g

~ RSG / N8BQN ~
40mi E of Line-A

(Note: all the re- re- re- was deleted:  nope nobody objects)


Jeff DePolo wrote:

 In other words, they think they have the right to force THEIR bandplan on
 all of the adjacent coordinators??!??!

The coordinator in MI shouldn't object to a  coordination from an
 adjacent council just because their bandplans aren't identical.
  For better or worse,  there isn't a universal bandplan that satisfies the

  entire amateur community nation-wide.
 





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] NEED HELP FINDING MOTOROLA PARTS

2006-01-23 Thread N8BQN

... and if he'd mention the model specifics,  just *might* get a
whole radio!!  g

Bob M. wrote:
...They came from wideband tube receivers that are probably sitting
at the bottom of landfills and oceans by now.
You might find one in an old VHF or UHF trunk-mount mobile radio
sitting in someone's basement if you're lucky.

 --- us_communications1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I NEED HELP FINDING A MOTOROLA PART NUMBER TU-540W, WHICH IS AN
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Shipping an antenna - roofrack

2006-01-17 Thread N8BQN

Perhaps ^under^ the veh -- a few bungies to the bumpers -- ??  g
BTDT: (had a bunch of ground-clearance to work with.)


 Bob M. wrote:
 No roof rack on a rental sedan from an airport.
 No roof rack on my car or truck, besides it would interfere with
the roof-mounted dual-band antennas - can't have that.






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator heater

2006-01-14 Thread N8BQN

Assuming you've tried your friendly auto-supply ...
How about a call right to the Mfgr (or nearby service rep) for suggestions
-- it's not like you're reinventing the .. repeater
(Any I've used came pre-installed -- 'electrified' drain-plug )
  ;-)



Chuck Kelsey wrote:
My question is -- does anyone know of a small engine block heater out
there?





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator heater

2006-01-14 Thread N8BQN

Perzactly ... I'm reasoning along the lines of heated oil-drain plug.
Shouldn't be too obscure in the auto realm...

Also assuming your BS *has* a lower drain, -and-  the thread isn't some
oddball, -and- whatever you find isn't so long that it pokes the innards, -and-
...  heh-heh
You've met my old pal Murphy ??

Good Luck.  / ~RSG~


Chuck Kelsey wrote:
Keep in mind, I said 5KW.  I realize that the bigger gensets have built in
heaters. Do they make an automobile block heater that doesn't connect to the
cooling system? My engine is air-cooled. It's only a 9 hp Briggs  Stratton.






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Static Cling (was - polyphaser)

2006-01-01 Thread N8BQN

Umm... connection ??
The 'theory' may be as a 'conductor' to ground .. but I can't imagine
dragging it on concrete would really qualify.  Maybe on dirt, or crossing
a RR track...
..at least for purposes of the original discussion.

Hey, ya drag your feet on the carpet .. aren't you thus 'connected' ??
Shockingly, no.  g

~/ N8BQN /~


 Laryn Lohman wrote:
 Why would it build up a charge?  If the strap is conductive as it
should be, it would be a connection to ground.  No?
 Laryn K8TVZ

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread N8BQN
I've posted this a few times...

**IF**  loss on the incoming signal(s) isn't an issue ...
1/2-wave (or multiple thereof) jumpers, daisy-chained
between Ts.

[rx.ant-coax] -- [T-(rx)] -jumper- [T-(rx)] -jumper- [last
rx]

Our RXs did not exhibit problematic interactions -- used
RG58  PL259s.

Our common antenna:  1/2-w dipole:
( 2ea  x 6  x #18 solid - soldered to a SO239 chassis
connector)

Seems to play nicely.  YMMV.
 ~/ N8BQN /~


 Vincent Caruso wrote:
 That sounds like an interesting solution, I would be
interested in learning more about it.

 Ralph Hogan wrote:
 Along these lines, someone on the list mentioned using
coax multi-dropped
 (coax tee) off to each receiver for a voter application.
Can't find the
 original posting. I was curious about the lengths required
between the
 antenna and then to each radio?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Topo plotting software for free (ie- RMD)

2005-11-18 Thread N8BQN

Time for the semi-annual plug ??  (heh-heh)

Radio_Mobile_Deluxe @ yahoogroups
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Radio_Mobile_Deluxe/ 

Suggestion:  join, lurk  read-read-read the list archives.


+ + + + + +
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