[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain Specs
rick martin wrote: dBi Ringo Ranger and the use of dBi I like it to a subterranean isotropic radiator. I think a Heathkit cantenna radiates better. Let us not be too caustic, folks: I had occasion to slap one up for a 'quicky' packet station -- tuned with a tape-measure, ty-wrapped to a pipe, and raggidy coax (with two couplings), and decent weather .. in theory, the worst of EVERYTHING wrong. Turned out to be a monster performer. Still is -- 18 years later -- go figgure. g
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Time Out Award
Jim B. wrote: Look for 'Purple Xtal'... Another vote for PC ~ have actually seen a nice one: wall-plaque thingy, adorned with a VERY old and large xtal unit -- maybe 1.5 square 3/4 thick? (No, not a heater) Any current holder was held responsible for 'catching' the next recipient -- think 'hot potato' ;-) /.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ok, here's a weird one....
Umm.. what he said. With another twist or two... Heretofore, it's been assumed the culprit to be main channel RF, because they're hearing main-channel audio... You'll want to consider what *other* things may be going on ~~ * STL (studio-transmitter-link) channels ~ typically in the 950 range, but not always * RPU/IFB channels ~ which generally aren't wide-band, and have been known to run continuously. Laryn Lohman wrote: I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but yes, this sounds like a classic case of Intermood. I don't think it is classic intermod. Think about it. The deviation of the broadcast station is 75 kc. snip.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Effects of doubling RF output ...
Tony L. wrote: 1) Will the hundreds we pay to upgrade actually translate into significantly increased range? As others have said -- not significant. But there'll always be someone who'll want to argue the point here ya go: Envision pouring a cup of water on a table top -- it makes a puddle of X radius (range) and (PI * R^2) area. Pouring on a second cup will double the area (at the same depth) .. but the radius increases by only 1/3 at best. Doubling the radius (range) requires LOTS more water. Let the naysayer figure out how much. g /.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...
Wonder if they'll be amending this to reclassify tow-trucks as 'emergency' .. or the highway dept .. or ... Time for a photo of the legislator pulling away from the drive-thru with a fresh coffee in-hand... Ken Arck wrote: but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to mobilize Oregon hams(coming to a State near you?) { + (3) This section does not apply to: (a) A person operating an ambulance or emergency vehicle; or (b) A person summoning medical or other emergency help if no other person in the vehicle is capable of summoning help.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT ...
There was a joke about the Italian cab-driver who'd brag about waving at the girls out both windows -- at the same time ... Ummm.. nevermind. g Tho there might be some correlation to what lawmakers are using for brains. Jim B. wrote: It ticks me off when I see these people that insist on talking with their hands, holding the phone in one hand and waving the other around while driving, snip
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower
Somehow I recollect that describing the 'extremely healty' Clarkston machine (near Detroit) ~ 3 TX yagis a single RX stik atop... Roger White wrote: This idea was in a ham magazine years ago, to solve a similar problem. It was on a very large tower, with a large face. This particular application used three sets of phased beams (two at each leg, fired tangentially to the tower).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] What Can Go Wrong With A Bird 43?
Unlikely as noted, but I *have* had a meter movement fail ~ and found a repair facility outside Detroit http://www.rammeter.com/ I recall they were durn reasonable $$ -- but it's been an eon or two. Sent in JUST the meter movement ~ not the whole Bird. And .. on the topic of videos -- supposedly the 'rest of the story' you won't see on CBS: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplicated Link URLs
You want bernaise sauce with that ? Eric Lemmon wrote: www.bcarn.net/6m-project-duplexer.htm (I hope this works, and I don't wind up with egg on my face!)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions
OK .. how many of you were immediately thinking of the barrel of tools up the tower story? (raises hand) g Nate Duehr wrote: Clip the pulley to something sturdy up-top, and have your buddy who thought he was getting out of doing the hard part down at the truck -- pull the heavy stuff up to you via same rope now fed back down to him through said pulley. snip
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site
No more .. too many [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi-rise obstacles ;-) /. Bob M. wrote: I thought Florida was so flat, you didn't need anything higher than 30 ft?!?!?! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a GE Key
Ummm.. IIRC, isn't "DI" a Desk-mate (shorty) cabinet ?? Should take a BF10 /. "Steve Bosshard (NU5D)" wrote: If the station is in a stand up cabinet with hinges on the door, On 5/17/06, tgundo2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... his base station is a GE master seris model DI76EAU66A. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a GE Key
Bingo .. same key as the M-II mobile; stubby little sucker ~ only 3 'nubs'. given some patience, you can pop that lock with a paperclip medium flatblade. Well .. a lot of patience.. ;-) TGundo 2003 wrote: The cabinet in question is only about 3 ft tall. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ummm.. IIRC, isn't "DI" a Desk-mate (shorty) cabinet ?? Should take a BF10 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Don't miss it
hq54 wrote: Nope, in 100 years it will be 2007, so it will be 2/3/4 07. ??? Umm..Did we already miss something ?? ;-Q Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Info wanted on Mitrek VHF rptr.
From his description, I'd almost expect to find WHAC engraved on the case .. LOL!! trying AGT canada in Google got 629,000 hits... ummm ~ no thanks. Sounds like a challenge ! Good Luck. Eric Lemmon wrote: I looked up the your model number in my cross-reference manual, without finding a listing. Perhaps one of the list's Mitrek specialists can provide some insight into this unusual radio...? On the ID plate: Prim. Pwr. 12v Motorola Canada Ltd. Doc. No. 109191038X MITREK Type JJA Watt 2-10 Mod. No. MX23JJA1106BAZ Ser. No. 533PKN1018 Motorola Inc. Made in USA Label on top cover reads: Mobile Communications and has a AGT logo. Probably installed by the service shop. Doug N3DAB Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] mystery board...
The B sez it's lo-band ... what kind of box did it come from? (err.. cardboard ?) ;-) Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote: I have a mystery board for which I can find no reference. It is aTLB4390B2, about 2.5 inches square. For the Moto Guru's the 84 number is 84C84 87IKDI DAB Anybody got a clue? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yahoo Groups Question - OT
Nothing really 'wrong' ~ It's your G-Mail being helpful... As I understand it ~ it sees your 'sent' and the 'received' as duplicates, and saves only one. Guess which one. Kevin Natalia Mitchell wrote: Sorry for the bandwidth, but I have a small problem when sending messages to the group. It does happen on the other groups I belong to.I used to be able to see any message I sent to the group, however other the past 6 months when I send a message, I do not get a forward message from the server. It was nice to see it come back, as it told me the message made it to the group.Like this message, I will not see that it has been received unless I go into the yahoogroups web-page for Repeater Builder. Would anyone have any ideas what may be wrong, I have checked my setup for yahoo, and can not see anything to cause this problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stuff for sale
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Gotta wonder about folks who post For Sale: All the cool junk in my shed. But.. No name. No call. No phone. No location. mailbox over quota spam-blocker cranked up full-tilt. ..and then can't fathom why... oh nevermind. (:shakes head:) /. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 GROUP
using the proper 'groupname, write to groupname-owner@ yahoogroups.com k0jxi wrote: Can anyone tell me who the moderator for the MSF5000 group is? I need to get a hold of him. Thanks, Dale K0JXI Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod
Apparently you can nail down which station is the troublemaker... Thinking about possible unusual suspects ... IIRC, there's an allocation for BC Remote Pickup in the 450-451 range .. which wouldn't necessarily be continous.. and if they're using that as a 'talk-back' or cueing channel, it may well sound like the main channel... Then there's those occasions when a primary STL (studio-transmitter-link) goes down, and they'll pop the RPU on as a substitute... not entirely kosher, but it happens. dallasreact112 wrote: Every once in a while we get FM broadcast interference on our DCR 442.425 snip Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Beer keg resonators
?? Tune-up procedure: Pump drain until ...buurrrp. G skipp025 wrote: I've collected many of the articles. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] You Must .. be kidding
Kevin ~ You moved to Peru ?? LOL> X-Originating-IP: 201.230.206.171 inetnum: 201.230.192/20 owner: PE-TDP-GRS ownerid: PE-PETD2-LACNIC responsible: Telefonica del Peru kuggie wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. Name: 392315089702606E-02.uu 392315089702606E-02.uu Type: Compressed Data (application/x-compress) Encoding: base64 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power - CP
Wow~ solid, broadband, heated... the stuff dreams are made of g Yeah, I'm jealous. ~/ N8BQN /~ Mike Morris wrote: In this particular case the antenna was .. rebuilt to 146Mhz by Jampro as a favor to 'OQK (who is a professional broadcast engineer). serious snipage Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Changing your subscription mode:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mountain Lion time!
Other way 'round ... the young eating their parents. Take *THAT*, Judge Green... ! SBC scarfed up ATT, including the name, logo, and ticker symbol. T shareholders got 0.855 in SBC, rebranded back to T That's wny you're confused. Mark A. Holman wrote: Wasnt SBC bought out by AT T ?? for a lions share?? -- mark h. :-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Woohoo! The rocks are IN!
S'Okay - we can take the slams .. What the IL guys DON'T have to contend with is the LINE-A baloney that's dished out to us .. Nothing EVER fits, on ANY band, in ANY service... Would you like some cheeze crackers with that whine .. ?? g ~ RSG / N8BQN ~ 40mi E of Line-A (Note: all the re- re- re- was deleted: nope nobody objects) Jeff DePolo wrote: In other words, they think they have the right to force THEIR bandplan on all of the adjacent coordinators??!??! The coordinator in MI shouldn't object to a coordination from an adjacent council just because their bandplans aren't identical. For better or worse, there isn't a universal bandplan that satisfies the entire amateur community nation-wide. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] NEED HELP FINDING MOTOROLA PARTS
... and if he'd mention the model specifics, just *might* get a whole radio!! g Bob M. wrote: ...They came from wideband tube receivers that are probably sitting at the bottom of landfills and oceans by now. You might find one in an old VHF or UHF trunk-mount mobile radio sitting in someone's basement if you're lucky. --- us_communications1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I NEED HELP FINDING A MOTOROLA PART NUMBER TU-540W, WHICH IS AN IF FILTER FOR RECEIVER. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Shipping an antenna - roofrack
Perhaps ^under^ the veh -- a few bungies to the bumpers -- ?? g BTDT: (had a bunch of ground-clearance to work with.) Bob M. wrote: No roof rack on a rental sedan from an airport. No roof rack on my car or truck, besides it would interfere with the roof-mounted dual-band antennas - can't have that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator heater
Assuming you've tried your friendly auto-supply ... How about a call right to the Mfgr (or nearby service rep) for suggestions -- it's not like you're reinventing the .. repeater (Any I've used came pre-installed -- 'electrified' drain-plug ) ;-) Chuck Kelsey wrote: My question is -- does anyone know of a small engine block heater out there? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator heater
Perzactly ... I'm reasoning along the lines of heated oil-drain plug. Shouldn't be too obscure in the auto realm... Also assuming your BS *has* a lower drain, -and- the thread isn't some oddball, -and- whatever you find isn't so long that it pokes the innards, -and- ... heh-heh You've met my old pal Murphy ?? Good Luck. / ~RSG~ Chuck Kelsey wrote: Keep in mind, I said 5KW. I realize that the bigger gensets have built in heaters. Do they make an automobile block heater that doesn't connect to the cooling system? My engine is air-cooled. It's only a 9 hp Briggs Stratton. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Static Cling (was - polyphaser)
Umm... connection ?? The 'theory' may be as a 'conductor' to ground .. but I can't imagine dragging it on concrete would really qualify. Maybe on dirt, or crossing a RR track... ..at least for purposes of the original discussion. Hey, ya drag your feet on the carpet .. aren't you thus 'connected' ?? Shockingly, no. g ~/ N8BQN /~ Laryn Lohman wrote: Why would it build up a charge? If the strap is conductive as it should be, it would be a connection to ground. No? Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a bit of good at all. In fact, in some conditions, the strap will build up static charge. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???
I've posted this a few times... **IF** loss on the incoming signal(s) isn't an issue ... 1/2-wave (or multiple thereof) jumpers, daisy-chained between Ts. [rx.ant-coax] -- [T-(rx)] -jumper- [T-(rx)] -jumper- [last rx] Our RXs did not exhibit problematic interactions -- used RG58 PL259s. Our common antenna: 1/2-w dipole: ( 2ea x 6 x #18 solid - soldered to a SO239 chassis connector) Seems to play nicely. YMMV. ~/ N8BQN /~ Vincent Caruso wrote: That sounds like an interesting solution, I would be interested in learning more about it. Ralph Hogan wrote: Along these lines, someone on the list mentioned using coax multi-dropped (coax tee) off to each receiver for a voter application. Can't find the original posting. I was curious about the lengths required between the antenna and then to each radio? Ralph W4XE Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Topo plotting software for free (ie- RMD)
Time for the semi-annual plug ?? (heh-heh) Radio_Mobile_Deluxe @ yahoogroups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Radio_Mobile_Deluxe/ Suggestion: join, lurk read-read-read the list archives. + + + + + + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html; Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/