Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-21 Thread Nate Duehr
Nate Duehr wrote:
> Don KA9QJG wrote:
>>
>> __,_.
>>
>> Speaking of the Alnico DR-235 ,  I had A Ham Friend  Who was told  by 
>> a Ham Radio Dealer  with   four State stores  the Radio has been 
>> discontinued , They had one left ,  and the Reason was the New Model 
>> would come out made with Lead free Solder

p.s. http://www.alinco.com/Products/DR-235/ would seem to indicate that 
they just rolled the model number from the Mark II to the Mark III.  I 
bet the Mark III is RoHS-compliant, per my last note.

For the other person who mentioned that there's discriminator audio at 
the DB-9 on the back, they're correct as long as the optional packet TNC 
inside the rig isn't installed.

For a rig without the TNC or with the cable from the DB-9 hooked back up 
to where it came from instead of the TNC... the pin-out is this, 
according to the manual:

1. SQC squelch signal output.  Carrier in: closed. Open collector output.
2. Packet reception DATA output (9600 bps) output level 500mVrms/10K ohm
3. Packet transmission DATA input (9600 bps) input level 300mV/600 ohm 
Max input level 600 mV
4. Packet reception DATA output (1200 bps) output level 100mV/600 ohm
5. Ground
6. No connection
7. PTT signal input: Low (GND): TX, Open: RX
8. 5.0 Vdc output: Max current less than 50mA
9. Packet transmission DATA input (1200 bps): input level 100mV/600 ohm

So they're talking about pin 2.  The references to "packet" 
notwithstanding, since these are just the typical audio and logic 
interfaces seen in other rigs -- they're just touting the packet ability 
over and over and over ad-nauseam in the manual...

Nate WY0X


Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-21 Thread Nate Duehr
Don KA9QJG wrote:
> 
> __,_.
> 
> Speaking of the Alnico DR-235 ,  I had A Ham Friend  Who was told  by a 
> Ham Radio Dealer  with   four State stores  the Radio has been 
> discontinued , They had one left ,  and the Reason was the New Model 
> would come out made with Lead free Solder
> 
>  
> 
> I have No idea if this is true or not, but maybe with the Lead Toy 
> problem that  was in the News Who  knows .  

It probably is true, but not because of the lead toys.  There's a 
requirement to sell reduced-lead or lead-free electronics into the 
European Union and other areas of the world, which has been ramping up 
for years now.

Google search for "RoHS".  You'll find lots of hits on the topic.  It 
took effect in July of 2006 in the UK, the EU, and elsewhere, as 
specific country's rules have been rolled out.

Manufacturers have been redesigning various products for a number of 
years now, as the deadlines came due.

Many of the "redesigned" radios that you saw from Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, 
and everyone else at Dayton (Alinco is BEHIND) weren't JUST to have new 
features/functionality for hams.  Most of them carry an RoHS sticker, 
and were redesigned boards and components that don't use lead in the 
soldering process.

No they weren't JUST happy to bring us new products, they weren't going 
to be able to sell ANY products into Europe without RoHS compliance... 
thus the "whirlwind" of redesigned and newly-designed radios at Dayton, 
and the cancellation of some older products forever, like Yaesu dropping 
the FT-847 which actually filled a market niche pretty nicely still, but 
probably couldn't be made RoHS compliant.

You'll start to see "RoHS" stickers on just about every electronic 
device made now, indicating that the product passes the lead-free 
standards being required by many countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive

We'll see if the "tin whisker" problem that many of us are familiar with 
in older GE MASTR II receiver castings -- starts to become wide-spread 
in more typical electronic devices, with the removal of lead from the 
soldering process.  (There's some references to the tin-whisker problem 
and a photo on that Wikipedia entry above.)  Time will tell.

Nate WY0X


RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-20 Thread Don KA9QJG

__,_.
Speaking of the Alnico DR-235 ,  I had A Ham Friend  Who was told  by a Ham
Radio Dealer  with   four State stores  the Radio has been discontinued ,
They had one left ,  and the Reason was the New Model would come out made
with Lead free Solder



I have No idea if this is true or not, but maybe with the Lead Toy problem
that  was in the News Who  knows .



Happy Repeater Building



Don KA9QJG _,___


Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-14 Thread Leon Ingerick
Take a look at this link
   
  http://members.aol.com/w8ak/maxtrac222.htm
   
  I ran into Glenn,  W8AK out at Dayton back in May..  He had a couple of these 
Maxtracs set up as a repeater on 224 mhz and seemed to work real nice..  I have 
not tried the conversion myself but it looks like it would be a nice way to 
link on 222 mhz if someone wanted to give it a try..  
   
  Glenn said he does not have the time to do the conversions and just wanted to 
give it a try and post the results on his website..
   
  Hope this helps and Good Luck with your linking..
   
  Leon-N2HLT
   
  http://www.repeater.net/n2hlt
   
  

James Delancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I have had very good luck with my ADI unit that became a repeater 
transmitter after I got tired of trying to keep the old maggiore stuff 
on the air. I do believe that ADI is out of the US market though

James

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to amplify on Skipp's statement about ADI radios, I have a 220
repeater in Skipp's vault on Mount Vaca, and I was using an ADI 220
radio to monitor it. It was on constantly for about six months; the
display would become unintelligible, and the radio would stop
transmitting. I would do a hard reset, and it would start working
again; but it would lose all its programming. I finally gave up and
purchased a new ALINCO a year ago and have been pleased with the
radio, it just keeps percolating along.

Gregory AC6VJ


 

   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-13 Thread Nate Duehr
Jed Barton wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Any good radios to use for 220 linking?  I know Alinco makes the DR235, but
> the PL decoder sucks on it.

http://www.irlpcables.com/AlincoTS64.html

> Anything from tait or anything else to suggest?
> I need a few of these.

Been meaning to order a pair of the Tait 220 mobiles from a local dealer 
and see how they do in the ham band, but it's way down the priority and 
money lists... for me anyway.

I'll be lucky if I get around to it before next year, really.

Nate WY0X


RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-12 Thread Don KA9QJG
 Jed , I picked up a Midland 13-508 Old Xtal 220 Mobile, also Made is a
Cobra 200 and Clegg Models all the Same, Not sure who made for who,   I
think they were the First radios around  yrs back when  people started
putting Repeaters together , The Xmit Board and Rec Board can be easily
separated , I think they would make a Nice link Radio .



But Eric"s  info with the Hamtronics would be more up to Date , or the Best
thing to do is Just E-Mail Scott Zimmerman - Kevin Custer who run this
Wonderful site and have them professional build You one.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/custombuilt/index.html





Happy Repeater Building



Don KA9QJG










RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-12 Thread Jed Barton
any ideas for ready made options?
 
Thanks,
Jed

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios



Jed,

I'm using some synthesized Hamtronics TX and RX modules in a 220 repeater,
and they seem to be holding up well. If properly encased and shielded,
those modules should perform well in link service. your ready-made options
are few...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

Hey guys,
Any good radios to use for 220 linking? I know Alinco makes the DR235, but
the PL decoder sucks on it.
Anything from tait or anything else to suggest?
I need a few of these.

Thanks,
Jed



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jed,

I'm using some synthesized Hamtronics TX and RX modules in a 220 repeater,
and they seem to be holding up well.  If properly encased and shielded,
those modules should perform well in link service.  your ready-made options
are few...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:06 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

Hey guys,
Any good radios to use for 220 linking? I know Alinco makes the DR235, but
the PL decoder sucks on it.
Anything from tait or anything else to suggest?
I need a few of these.

Thanks,
Jed




[Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-12 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,
Any good radios to use for 220 linking?  I know Alinco makes the DR235, but
the PL decoder sucks on it.
Anything from tait or anything else to suggest?
I need a few of these.

Thanks,
Jed