Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
On 2/27/2010 7:54 PM, Fuggitaboutit wrote: Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . What would you pay for it? Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
Problem is, they wouldn't sell that well. Most hams don't have interest in it. There are pockets of activity in the metro areas, but in most parts of the country, 900 is empty. Heck, 6-meter ham mobiles have been around for years, yet 6 FM activity is pretty dismal. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio On 2/27/2010 7:54 PM, Fuggitaboutit wrote: Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . What would you pay for it? Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
That's the reason I asked. There's a major manufacturer making a pretty decent 1.2 GHz radio (Icom ID-1) that costs $1000, and it's obviously also (besides doing FM) a D-STAR rig, and that distinction is making it sell to those with $1000 to burn on a digital mode... but a 900 MHz FM Analog with no hook feature to pull people in, I think would sell dismally, and therefore would have to cost at least that much... Nate WY0X On 3/1/2010 3:53 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Problem is, they wouldn't sell that well. Most hams don't have interest in it. There are pockets of activity in the metro areas, but in most parts of the country, 900 is empty. Heck, 6-meter ham mobiles have been around for years, yet 6 FM activity is pretty dismal. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com mailto:nate%40natetech.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio On 2/27/2010 7:54 PM, Fuggitaboutit wrote: Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . What would you pay for it? Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Nate Duehr wrote: That's the reason I asked. There's a major manufacturer making a pretty decent 1.2 GHz radio (Icom ID-1) that costs $1000, and it's obviously also (besides doing FM) a D-STAR rig, and that distinction is making it sell to those with $1000 to burn on a digital mode... but a 900 MHz FM Analog with no hook feature to pull people in, I think would sell dismally, and therefore would have to cost at least that much... Come up with an idea and sell it to the fine gentleman from Starkville, MS. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and you would never be able to buy an amateur rig with the performance of a Spectra! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net wrote: Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com mikewm9v%40hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
True, but where is the hack for the front panel programmable Spectra? It's nice to not be limited to preprogrammed channels. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and you would never be able to buy an amateur rig with the performance of a Spectra! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net mailto:jmac...@usa.net wrote: Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com mailto:mikewm9v%40hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org http://www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
I used to be like that, but now that I've gone commercial, I don't find that's an issue. I would rather have the improved performance. Plus, you can program in simplex channels, etc. If you can fill up 128 memory channels on 900 MHz in your area, that's great. Around here, we have 4 repeaters with 2 more proposed and only one other machine in the state. I could see that travelling a lot would be a reason to have front panel programmable radios, but I don't travel much out of state. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:13 AM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: True, but where is the hack for the front panel programmable Spectra? It's nice to not be limited to preprogrammed channels. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and you would never be able to buy an amateur rig with the performance of a Spectra! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.netjmackey%40usa.net mailto:jmac...@usa.net jmackey%40usa.net wrote: Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com mikewm9v%40hotmail.com mailto:mikewm9v%40hotmail.com mikewm9v%2540hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org http://www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 02:34:00 -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
I rum spectras on V/U/900 and love em. I just bought one for P25. As for programming, once you get a codeplug set for your area and the areas you travel to it is easy to use. The zone features are nice. 1 or 2 zones per area and off you go. I also run a regular dual band ham radio for the odd stuff but I seldom use them as the performance of the spectras far out does the ham stuff. As for programming you could keep a rib and cable connevted to the radio and a serial plug somewhere easy to get to for reprogramming. I am migrating to the MCS 2000 series lately because our area is rebanding 800 and I have to change that radio and I like them all to match, but I like the spectras better. Talk about clear audio! Just my thoughts. For what it's worth YMMV. Rob Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: James Adkins [mailto:adkins.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:21 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio I used to be like that, but now that I've gone commercial, I don't find that's an issue. I would rather have the improved performance. Plus, you can program in simplex channels, etc. If you can fill up 128 memory channels on 900 MHz in your area, that's great. Around here, we have 4 repeaters with 2 more proposed and only one other machine in the state. I could see that travelling a lot would be a reason to have front panel programmable radios, but I don't travel much out of state. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:13 AM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: True, but where is the hack for the front panel programmable Spectra? It's nice to not be limited to preprogrammed channels. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and you would never be able to buy an amateur rig with the performance of a Spectra! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.netjmackey%40usa.net mailto:jmac...@usa.net jmackey%40usa.net wrote: Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com mikewm9v%40hotmail.com mailto:mikewm9v%40hotmail.com mikewm9v%2540hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org http://www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 02:34:00 -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING www.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. . NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
Not necessarily true, John. There are pockets of HIGH activity on 900 MHz - especially on the coasts, where PAVE PAWS has forced the reduction or elimination of 70cm repeaters. Unfortunately, I'm not on either coast (I'm in the Chicago area) so your observation is accurate -- for me anyway. :-( Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikewm9v SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
What really needs to happen is for someone to design a transistor or FET RF power doubler for all those 450 Mhz radios that will be coming or now surplus on the commercial market. Then amateur 900 MHz would boom. Don't ask me to do it, I don't have any time. WA9ZZU --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Mark n9...@ameritech.net wrote: From: Mark n9...@ameritech.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 12:47 PM Not necessarily true, John. There are pockets of HIGH activity on 900 MHz - especially on the coasts, where PAVE PAWS has forced the reduction or elimination of 70cm repeaters. Unfortunately, I'm not on either coast (I'm in the Chicago area) so your observation is accurate -- for me anyway. :-( Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikewm9v SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
http://www.gemoto.com/900/coverage_NEAR900.htm This is a map of eastern Mass. 900 is very active especially with the linked repeaters. Bill KB1MGH From: Mark n9...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 12:47:33 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio Not necessarily true, John. There are pockets of HIGH activity on 900 MHz - especially on the coasts, where PAVE PAWS has forced the reduction or elimination of 70cm repeaters. Unfortunately, I'm not on either coast (I'm in the Chicago area) so your observation is accurate -- for me anyway. :-( Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikewm9v SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them. Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, allan crites wrote: What really needs to happen is for someone to design a transistor or FET RF power doubler for all those 450 Mhz radios that will be coming or now surplus on the commercial market. Then amateur 900 MHz would boom. Don't ask me to do it, I don't have any time. WA9ZZU The problem isn't the radio, the problem is the ham. If it wasn't made for the amateur band and doesn't have buttons to push, most hams won't use it. When you start saying things about programming software and channelized and no repeaters in the area, well... the average ham just decides to find something else to play with. Hams don't work on radios any more. They buy them new and push buttons. If it doesn't have push buttons and can't be programmed using a user-friendly interface, most aren't interested -- even if it is the cheapest band to get into because the radio and antenna are surplus! Yaesu, ICOM, and Kenwood don't make rigs on that band, so they aren't interested. Whaddaya mean ya gotta modify the radio? I don't know about this modifying a commercial a radio business. I ain't never hear'd of a ham radio by Motorola. The doubler idea is nice, except that the vast majority of the radios that are already at 900MHz use 2.5KHz deviation, not 5.0KHz deviation (or 10KHz, which would be the result of doubling a 5KHz radio). -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
I have no doubt you are correct, but I'll still say that 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong (compared to other V/U bands). -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:47:51 AM PST From: Mark n9...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio Not necessarily true, John. There are pockets of HIGH activity on 900 MHz - especially on the coasts, where PAVE PAWS has forced the reduction or elimination of 70cm repeaters. Unfortunately, I'm not on either coast (I'm in the Chicago area) so your observation is accurate -- for me anyway. :-( Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikewm9v SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them.
[Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
Ya, I bought the cable from ebay and I had an old laptop. I've walked past this stuff for years at hamfests and heard the horror stories. Motorola did everything they could to make this radio proprietary ..like everything else. I even replaced the display caps and some on the audio. blah blah blah The radio still has the programming from the dump truck it was in. I had even considered building something like a development board for the code plug just so I could get into the proms.The processor has mem in it too . Don't expect the USB programming cable to work by itself . You need the rib box too. tx and rx ok ther has to be a better way like make a new front panel for it . Now I'm looking at a newer mobile hoping I can get into that and change the splits , tone etc. Someone here had a Kenwood 800 meg but the tx and the front end would need rework too . Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . Motorola is splitting up and moving out to silicon valley. They are vacating all their facilities in Schaumburg and Illinois.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them .
